HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-05-79 CCMCITY OF LAKE ELMO BOARD OF REVIEW, JUlVE 6, 1979
Council members present: Pott, Johnson (2.30)v Mottaz (3:15), Armstrong, Morgan (14:00)
Assessors: Dave Stephen and Patrick Poshek, Washington County
1. Gerald Wuefing 8196 38th Street Plate 37095-4200
Estimated Value — $&51010
Limited Value — $519310
Questioned if all estimated and limited values are same. Assessor explained how
the figures are arrived at and the process of evaluating.
ACTION: None
2. Robert Peterson 8278 Bidden Bay Ct. N. Plate 37545-2600
Estimated Value — $749380
Stated his market value .rose 8TPWa in one year. Land value is $30,000 and building
is $p144,380. All the homes in pace Acres were revaluated this year. Mr. Peterson
wanted the record to show he paid $21,200 for his land 23 years ago and feels he
is assessed too high compared to his neighbors. Surrounding parcels were reviewed
by the assessor and all were comparible .
ACTION: None
3. Carl Tacke 11306 31st St. N. Plate 371480-2300
Estimated Value — 8479945
Limited Value — $835,735
Questioned the dimensions of his home and. what constituted an open porch. The
assessor explained. house size is determined by exterior dimensions. The open
porch is a cemented area under an overhang. A breakdown of how the home is
assessed was given. Mr. Tacke feelshis market value is unjust since he has no
intention of selling.
ACTION: None
14. A.R, Maistrovich 8880 Jane Road N. Plate 37009-0060
Estimated Value—$667,545 37009-0064
Limited Value 455,390
Mr. Maiatrovich owns 8.149 A. The home is listed on the wrong parcel.. The assessor
noted the error and will put the house on parcel no- 37009-00614. There was no
change in the valuation.
ACTION: None
5. Thomas Boardman
2377 Legion Lane N.
Plate 37180-2150
As of 1/2/78 the value was 'listed as $55,000. Be took over wie. property 1/27/78i
at which time there was $23,000 worth of work completed on the house. Be contracted
the remainder of the 'work and moved in April of 1978. Be feels his assessment as
of 1/2/78 is in error.
The Assessor recommended he make application to the Washington County Board of
Review far a reduction is his assessment for 1978. The County will need proof
of the percentage of completion and a signed affidavit from his contractor.
ACTION: None
6. Don Karnuth 8258 Hidden Bay Tr. N. Plate 375148-2100
Estimated Value — $100,955
Limited Value — $B 699905
Questioned how the estimated figure was arrived at. The new estimated is based
on revaluation. The assessor stated much of the area was under appraised. Mr_.
Karnuth questioned what his next step would be to protest® The assessor said he
can appeal to the County Board of Review and then the State Tax Board.
ACTION: None
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7. James Blackford 10500 250th Street Plate 37010-2120
Estimated Value — $$20,000 Scandia, Mn. 55073
Limited Value — $ 9055
Mr. Blackford owns a 5 A parcel and questioned the estimated value. He feels
$201000 is excessive for an open parcel with no house. This area will be re—
assessed in 1980.
ACTION: Armstrong moved, Pott seconded to reduce the estimated value to $13,500.
Motion carried 5-0.
8. William Woodworth
Estimated Value $$949690
Limited Value $$719910
821F2 Hidden Bay Tr, N.
Plate 37548-2150
Expressed concern on the estimated value. The assessor explained the area had
been revalued this year,
ACTION: None
9. Lyle Slawson 5540 Keats Avenue N. Plate 37003-2050
Estimated Value — $$59775
Limited Value — $59775
Mr. Slawson bought the John Kleis farm and questioned if a mobile home could be
assessed if he is paying -taxes on the original home. IIe lives in the mobile home
and Kl.ei.ses live .in the original home. The assessor explained the mobile home
still would. be taxed.
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ACTION: None
10. Philip Tschumperl.in 9149 Lake Jane Tr. N. Plate 3'701.0-0855
Estimated Value — 868,330
Limited Value — $$759925
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Mr. Tschumperlin had pictures of the pipe that runs along his property and also
of the ,yard area of Dan 011inger. He feels his valuation is excessive and his
property is not worth $75,925 because of pipe and the noise caused by the pumping
of lake Jane. Also he feels the 011inger property is an eyesore and questioned
if he can use the area for. storage. He also questioned if 011inger still had a
mining permit.
The Council. will instruct the Building Inspector to visit the 011inger property
and report any violations. Tschumperlin°s requested. -hey be notificed of his
findings.
ACTION: Delayed until Building Inspectors Report. Per minutes 6/12_/79 No action
will be taken on the request -to lower assessed valuation.
Thomas Wisdom 2289 Legion Lane N. Plate 37180-2700
Mr. Wisdom questioned the land value going from $195.00 to $$160000. Also he feels
there is a 500 sq, fL-, discrepancy in the house measurement. The assessor stated
the land valuation may have been. based on an agriculture preplatted figure. Value
on platted lots in -that area are comparable. The assessor will go back and remeasure
the home.
ACTION: The Council will react within 20 days if the County finds an error in the
dimensions. House remeasured by County Assessor — square footage corrected, value to
remain the same, per minutes of 6/12/79. No action will be taken by the City.
R. Murray 4465 Jack Pine Tr. N. Plate 37547-2650
Estimated Value — $61,270
Limited Value — $$50,115
Questioned how the limited market value is going to be handled under the new law.
The assessor stated it may take two years for the limited to catch up to the estimated,
after which the limited value may no longer be used.
ACTION: None
BOARD Oli' REPIE6lp DUNE 69 1979
13, D, Friesen 8695 Ironwood Tr, N. Plate 37550-4000
Estimated Value - $658p930
Limited Value - i$42p260
Questioned how the estimated and limited value are formulated. Requested breakdown
of how home is valued,
ACTION: None
114. Tom Strohkirch 8702 Ironwood Tr, N, Plate 37550-3250
Estimated. Value - S549485
Limited Value - $$509105
Questioned the percentage increase in the limited and market value,
ACTION: None
15, James Johnson 8430 DeMontreville Tr. N. Plate 37683-2550
Estimated Value - $$571650
Limited Value - 357p650
Requested breakdown of how he is taxed. The land value has not increased in the
past year the house value increased 10/%. `the valuation+is based on 65% completion.
This is not -the total valuation the additional 35/ will be included upon comppletion
of the house, Mr. Johnson owns 5 acres. Only 2? were recored. The other 2s will
be added to the record. There will be no increase in land value as the value is
correct.
ACTION: None
16. Allan Kunde 4171 Irvin Circle N. Plate 37446-3000
Estimated Value - $$750830
Limited Value - $$67,350
Questioned what % of the value -the limited figure is based on. Requested run-down
of how his house is taxed and estimate of his property tax.
ACTION: None
1.7, Peter Werner 8131 Hidden Day Tr. N. Plate 37549-2950
Estimated Value - $$64075
Limited Value - $$55r075
Questioned the formula determining the estimated value. Hi.s estimated value rose
30% in one year and the 'limited rose 10%. The assessor stated these percentages
were low compared to others in the community,
ACTION: None
18. Dennis Larson 8260 la keJane Tr. N. Plate 37549-2650
Estimated Value - $66p760
Limited Value - 860pO85
Requested run -doom on figures tax is based on. Also requested breakdown on house
assessment,
ACTION: None
19. Raymond Smith 11299 31st Street N. Plate 37580--2550
Questioned amount of increase in market value. Assessor stated the area -was
revalued this year with values being brought up to present market values,,.
ACTION: None
BOARD OI' REVIEW$ JUNEE 60 1979
20. Glen Swanson 214, Kinard Plate 37385-2300
Estimated Value — Jl5,000 St. Paul, X. WIN
Limited Value — $G10000
NO, Swanson owns a 5A parcel in J'esses Hideaway, When he purchsed the property
he questioned the owner, realtor and Cy Schifisky in the Assessors Office about
what the property taxes were, All quoted him about $6200.00. His tax statment
for 1978 was $640.00, The assessor advised him the $200 amount was based on
an agriculture value, After the property was subdivided the value per lot is
increased. The $15000 value is a comparable figure for like property in the
community.
ACTION: None
21. .Loren Johnson 8460 Deer Pond Tr.. Plate 37546-2350
Estimated Value — Q52,930
Limited 'Value — $43,060
Questioned the estimated market value compared to surrounding homes. Requested
breakdown of house assessment. He is presently assessed for a tennis court. He
does not have a tennis court on his property, but his neighbor does. The assessor
will remove the tennis court from 37546-2350 and add it to 37546-2300, Lot 5.
$2,250 of the estimate and a portion of the limited values will thereby be reduced.
ACTION: None
22, Lenny Anderson 559 S. McKnight P1ate37730-2350
$g200000 St. Paul, Mn. 55109
Requested comparison for adjacent properties. :Feels his valuation is too high.
Requested that the structures be assessed as personal property and not real estate
since there was no foundation under them. Questioned why 'he is taxed for 1979
on the structures. The reason being they were on the property as of Jan. 2, 1979,
Mr. Anderson's:ca,so is presently i0tax court. Morgan moved, Pott seconded, the
City Council will agree with whatever. the tax court decision is and apply it to the
1979 assessment. Motion carraed 300.
Mr, Anderson stated that due to snow conditions he had to get an extension from the
court to move the structures. He feels the City should go along with the extension
date and he should not be assessed as of Jan 2. 1979. The January 2 date for
assessing is set by the County and the City cannot change it.
Mr, Anderson also questioned the homestead status. He stated he filed for homestead
but it is not indicated on the tax books. He is protesting the homestead status
and stated he was living in the structures as of 1/2/79 and should be eligible.
Armstrong moved, Mottam seconded to refer this matter to the Board of Review.
The Building Inspector will go and inspect this property and the adjacent property.
NO, Anderson wants a copy of his report and of the minutes to be sent to him. A
copy of both will also be sent to Ray Marshall, Attorney.
ACTION: Refer to County Board of Review and abide by the decision of the Tax Court.
23. James Tobin 4180 Irvin Circle N. 37446-2650
Estimated Value — $719090
! limited Value — IG63-980
Requested what the property taxes will be on a home. Assessor gave an estimate,
ACTION: None
BOARD OF REVTEW, DUNE 69 1979
A1, Oliva Ylonen Lot 12 Oace Acres
Sent letter to Board of Review questioning why the taxes are so high. Wanted to
be noted in the record so she can be reviewed at a later date.
ACTION: None
25. Bill Rowe Oace Acres Plate 37672-2050
Telephoned
question the valuation of lake shore and the calculations of the limited and market
values.
The Oace Acres area was revaluated this year. All lake shore lots are valued the
same $309000. Any error in the limited valuation cannot be changed by the City.
It is a State law and must be corrected by the County.
ACTION: None
26• T. G. Armstrong Plate 37028-2700
37028--2600
Requests the corn crib building be removed from the roster. The building was
razed September, 1978. The assessor deleted the building.
ACTION: None
27. Kenneth L. Sovereign 4415 Olson Lake Tr. Plate 37009-0040
Estimated Value $103,150
Limited Value 899150
Unable to attend Board of Review Hearing. IIe is protesting his assessment for 1979.
Mr. Sovereign is waiving the hearing at the City level,
ACTION: None.
Armstrong moved, Mottaz seconded to close the Board of Review Hearing at 7:35 p.m.
June 12, 1979. Motion carried 4-0. Morgan absent
KENNETH L. SOVEREIGN
ATTORNEY AT LAW
4415 OLSON LAKE TRAIL NORTH
LAKE ELMO, MINNESOTA 55042
PHONE 612-777-1 139
June 1, 1979
Clerk of City
of Lake Elmo
Attention: Clerk
Re: 36-37009-0040
Business requirements prevent me from attending the Hearing
on June 6. Please accept this as notice that I contest assess-
ment for the year 1979 on the above mentioned property and will
waive Hearing at the City level.
Sincerely yours,
Kenneth L. Sover n
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Minutes of the Lake Elmo City Council, June 5, 1979 -. .
Acting Mayor Pott convened the.meeting.at 7:37 p.m. with the following Councillors
answering roll: Johnson, Mottaz, Morgan, Mayor Armstrong (&:45). Building Inspector
Kluegel and Engineer Bohrer were_.also present..
AGENDA: Additions: Bob Peterson, Water Surface Use Committee - Speed limits and
hours for lake within Lake Elmo. E. General — Engineers Report —
Hardy's driveway. Morgan requested fines i em be Springborn's Green Acres
and Jane Road N. gate.
SURFACE WATER USE: Bob Peterson requested the City Council adopt an ordinance
limiting boat speed on all Lake Elmo lakes prior to 10 a.m. and after
7 P.M. Speed will be determined by no 'wake' or a 5 mph limit. The
Council agreed with establishing such an ordinance. Morgan suggested
extending the evening hour to 8 p.m.
Morgan moved, Armstrong seconded to have the City Attorney draft an
enforcement ordinance limiting speed on all lakes in Lake Elmo between
the hours of 8 p.m. and 10 a.m.; also the definition of 'wake' is to
be written into the ordinance. Motion carried 5-0-
MINUTES: Motion by Armstrong, Seconded by Johnson to approve the minutes of May
14 and May 15, 1979, as written. Motion carried 5-0.
Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded to approve the minutes of May 23, 1979,
as corrected. Corrections: Richard Connors — All reference to 924
should be changed to 928, the City's high flood elevation. All reference
to 1700.cu. yds. of fill should be 170 cu. yds. Page 3 — Sign Posts.....
buy 50 sign post out of the Operating Budget. Spare Hydrant — page 3....
out of the Water Enterprise Revenue .Fund. Motion carried 5-0.
CLAIMS: Moulton Irrigation, $2,250.00 was added to the claims list changing the
total to $23,383.68.
Morgan moved, Armstrong seconded to approve claims 79298 thru 79234•
Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC INQUIRIES: A. James Kaufhold — Variance from 10 £t. set —back to 5k ft.
Mr. Kaufhold applied for a permit to co ruct a b xx 361storage
building. Mr. Kaufhold was erronously told he was within the limit with
his 52 ft. set -back. After review with the City Attorney it was determined
the set —back should be 10 ft. Mr. Kaufhold has secured all the neces—
sary signatures of his neighbors stating no opposition to this variance.
Armstrong moved, Pott seconded to approve the variance for a 52 ft. set—
back for James Kaufhold. The $30.00 filing fee will be waived due to
the misinterpretation by the Building Inspector. Also no PZC recom—
mendation will be sought as all other ordinances are met and the
circumstances demanded immediate action. Motion carried 5-0.
B. Tom Kaiser — Canceled
C. Irvin Court Drainage A
The engineer has determined an 1811 culvert, crossing Hedges property is
adequate. Estimated cost for staking and construction will be $5,400
plus the $2,000 easement cost. Mr. Mogren has agreed to do the con—
struction work and assume the $5,400 cost, but will not pay the $2,000
easement fee. He feels benefiting property owners should share this
cost. Armstrong is opposed to an assessment hearing or paying the
easement amount out of General Revenue. The Administrator was requested
to try and renegotiate the easement amount.
Minutes of the Lake Elmo City Council, June 5, 1979 -2-
's Green Acres - Bond Release -
Armstrong moved, Pott seconded to release the Development Bond for
Springborn's Green Acres, in the amount of $19,134-40. Motion carried
5-0.
Marilyn Banister will write a letter to Washington Federal stating
the City agrees to the release.
E. General - Engineers Report
Beutal Pond - The DER permit will be in the Administrators office this
week for signature.
Hard
Driveway - the preliminary lime for the driveway has been set and
al ernatives suggested. There is a natural drainage depression which
will require fill. Also consideration is to be given the request for
a foot bridge to be constructed over the fork.
James Kaufhold questioned the City's decision regarding the Hardy drive-
way. He feels this will create more traffic flow into the Tablyn area
and the residents should be made aware of this action. In this instance
the City does not have to contact residents.
The Engineer will compile an estimate of materials for the next meeting,
after which scheduling can be done with the National Guard.
MnDot - The engineer presented a MnDot program for correcting regulatory
signs on City Streets. A copy of the report will be sent to the
Maintenance Committee for review.
Park She Bid 0 enin Schedule - Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded to
set the Park Shelter Bi Opening for June 21, 1979, at 3:30 p.m.
Motion carried 5-0. The bids will be opened in the City Office. The
bids will be considered on June 26, 1979, at 5:00 p.m. at a Special
Council meeting.
Park Shelter Aire-He94- cdd+%� - Engineer Bohrer distributed the bid advertisements
approved 7 3/79 or the ire Eall addition. They will appear in local papers starting
Monday.
VALI-HI DRIVE IN: Dale Fuearstenberg reported that the drive-in will not hire an
authorized deputy, except for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The SUP
stipulates a deputy will be on duty whenever the theatre is operating.
The City Attorney advised the City has the authority to cite the operators
for violations until the requirement is met. Legal action to close the
theatre will begin if the requirement continues to be ignored.
197E FLOOD ASSESSMENT ROSTER: Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded, to approve all
property xo ary to the Tri-Lakes. This will include Foxfire Estates
and Springborn's Green Acres. Motion carried 5-0
PROJECT 1005: In the opinion of Attorney Ray Marshall, Project 1005 will be delayed
a minimum of three weeks before VB will assume the project. This is
providing the managers order the project. The City understood VB would
take over once the project was ordered.
George Hedges stated that before VB can assume the responsibility, their
engineer will have to prepare plans, specs, and bids; prepare a cost es-
timate; get Bond Council; and secure bonding for the $77,000.
Hedges did say the managers could vote monies from their Administrative
Fund to ease the City's financial burden.
No action can be taken until the Managers make a decision.
Minutes of the Lake Elmo City Council, June 5, 1979 —3—
Mr. Everett Beaubiegexpressed his concern about the level on Sun Fish
Lake. He stated that as a result of pumping Lake Jane, Sun Fish Lake is
rising. Mayor Armstrong read Resolution 76-11 in reference to monitor—
ing Sun Fish.
Armstrong stated if those down stream can prove the water level is rising
due to the Lake Jane pumping they should have some compensation for
damages. *that are a proven result of that pumping. *approved 7/3/79
Residents on Sun Fish will be given the same consideration as those on
Lake Jane with the same problem.
Armstrong will contact Kent Lackesmoe, DNR, and determine the official
high water mark for Sun Fish.
PETE nUEGEL—BUILDING INSPECTOR:
A. Hazardous Buildin — I and 28th St.— Armstrong moved, Pott seconded
e a. y Counci request the Fire Depa ment burn the City owned.strue—
at Ivy and 28th St. Motion Carried 5-0.
FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY: Pott wanted the Council aware of the Fire Department Policy
for filling swimming pools. No action was taken on the policy.
B. Licenses and Permit Fees --,Tabled until next meeting.
C. Racquet Ball Court — Cancelled
REGIONAL PARK PLAN: The council agreed the Administators letter of adequately covered
their concerns.
Mottaz is still adamently opposed to much of the proposed use in the park
Morgan will try or organize a meeting between the County and the City
Park Committee before the next meeting.
CODE OF ETHICS: Armstrong will redraft the ordinance for the next meeting.
CENTER LINE FOR HIDDEN BAY TRAIL: Pott will obtain a cost estimate for restriping
and verify what other City streets need to be done.
SEWER LICENSES: Armstrong moved, Pott seconded to approve sewer licenses for,
AAA,Pollution- Dennis Schlomka 1525 S. Sterling St. Paul 55119
79-0012
Moris Carlson— Carlson Trenching 5692 Centerville Rd. White Bear Lk.
79-0013 55110
SPRINGBORN GREEN ACRES: Morgan questioned the status of the road construction betweedl
Jane RoadN. and Springborn's Green Acres. The street from the development
has been graded through. It was the Council's understanding this was not
to be a through street and a gate was to be placed at the intersection.
The Administrator is to notify Green Acres that a gate is to be installed.
$2,000 will be withheld from bond monies if the work is not completed.
(Note: The gate is in Foxfire)
CITY►iFFICE DUMPSTER: It has been noted that the public is dumping in the dumpster
behind the City Office. This is not for public use and the dumpster is
to be locked after office hours.
ADJOURNMENT: Johnson moved, Pott seconded to adjourn at 10:25 p.m.