HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-17-79 CCMCITY OF LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES, JULY 17, 1979
Mayor Armstrong convened the meeting at 5:17 P.M.
Councilors in attendance: Mottaz, Morgan, Pott, Johnson (9:00). Also in attendance
Administrator Whittaker and Engineer Bohrer.
AGENDA: Armstrong moved, Mottaz seconded -to approve the agenda as amended.
Agenda changes - delete Mottaz - Appeal moratorium, and add cor-
respondence. Motion carried 3-0,
MINUTES: Mottaz moved, Armstrong seconded to approve the minutes of July 3, 1979,
as written. Motion carried 3-0-
ART SCRAEPFER, JR. - COUNTY COMMCSSIONER: Mottaz expressed his thoughts and
concerns about the Regional Park Plan, Be reitterated his feelings
about the intensity of the design next to the residential area. None
of Lake Elmo®s suggestions have been Included in. -the plan, Lake Elmo
desires to know the status of the road through. the park. The City
desires to meet further with the County and feels the best way to
be heard is through their commissioner.
'The Nelson property at the north end of the park was discussed. The
City has not approached the Nelson'€: about eliminating their driveway
for the Eagle Point Fork Improvement at the County has indicated this
property will be included in the park and condemnation proceedings have
been started. Mr. Schaeffer indicated this is his impression also.
The Nelsons have stated that they have not been contacted by the County
and have requested the City tell them what the status of their property
is.
The City feels the communication gap between it and the County is
due to a lack of response to Lake Elmo concerns. Mr. Schaeffer in-
dicated Brauer and Associates is running the County Planning Department
and feels they are not looking for additional residential input concerning
the Park plan. As yet, no action has been taken by the County Board,
The Council reviewed for Mr, Schaeffer all the negative areas, eg, SW
boat launch, overnight camping, excessive horse trails plus Lake Elmo°s
desire to oul-d-sao 15th Street. We do not desire a throughfare in
,the park. 'The Council desires the access to -the County Park not to
be confused with the one to the City Park, Access to the County Park
off Minnehaha is most desirable.
The Plan should anticipate high water on Eagle Point naturally, and
the City feels it is an absolute necessity they be able to use Eagle
Point for storage. Mr.. Schaeffer stated he was in favor of this.
Road Mans by the County - this matter will be taken up in the fall
after the Comprehensive Plan and. the Zoning Ordinance are completed.
The City desires the alignment of County 13 be pin -pointed and the
obtaining of right-of-way be discussed.
Emergency" Medical Services - the City feels the County should take
oaxe of,this and adjust the mil rate accordingly.
CountyBuildingDepartment - it has been suggested the County Building
Department will be disbanded. This department has acted as a back-up
for Lake Elmo, and, the City would find it a considerable inconvenience
if it were disbanded. They also feel it would pose a hardship on sur-
rounding townships who also use the County Building Department.
Morgan moved, Armstrong seconded to have -the County Commissioner appear
before the Council `the second meeting of every other month. Motion
carried 4-0.
DON METTSIKOMER - CIVIL DEFENSE PROGRAM: Mayor Armstrong stated he feels more
emphasis should be placed on Civil 'Defense. The City received complaints
during recent storms that residents of Cimarron have no storm shelter
available.
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CIVIL DEFENSE CONTINUED: Mr. Mehsikomer was asked if he would accept this
responsibility, and look into the CityPs Civil Defense needs, He
agreed to review it and see what is necessary •to qualify. This
position would be handled on a, volunteer basis with personal expenses
to be reimbursed by the City. Mr. Mehsikomer will report back to the
Council with. his findings and decision.
EARL GOERSS — LAKE ELMO OIL* Mr. Goerss .reviewed his feelings on the energy
problems and gas shortage. He requested the City Council and the
Community to acknowledge the problems and do their part to conserve
energy.
Lake Elmo Oil is going back to their regular. schedule. They will not
be open evenings or Sunday. Gas will be limited to a maximum of $10.00.
The Governors minimum allotments will also be enforced. The Council
questioned if there would be any advantage to having a 11000 gallon
bulk tank in West Sunfish Park, to service City vehicles. Mr. Goerss
sested the City carefully determine the amount of diesel fuel it uses
for the grader, mower' etc, before making this decision,
Morgan moved, Mottaz seconded,. the City request the State consider
exempting the gallonage of fuel it needs to pump water on Lake Jane
from Lake Elmo Oils allotment. Motion carried 4-0.
This request is mw& because the monthly allotment of Lake Elmo Oil
includes the amount used by the City. This am&mt'should be over and
above the amount Lake Elmo Oil receives.
DINNER. — BEN' S ELMO INN
OLD BUSINESS: A. Leonard Hanson - Rezoning and SUP for Open Sales Lot; and.
Adyer. tisin Sin
The Council reviewed the request and location of the parcel. Engineer
Bohrer has no concerns if'the'two>ponding areas remain unfilled and
stay as ponding areas. This arvsXalls into the General Rural Use
Zone on the new Comprehensitec'Kan. Morgan stated he is opposed to
the idea of spot rezoning'"' Oi€e-this parcel is rezoned to GB it is
not restricted to the proposed use. The business proposed. by Mr.
Hanson, horse trailer sales; does, appear to be compatible to the desired
Ag use. This use would be permitted in the GRU in the n-ew plan.
Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded to'approve the request of Mr® Lsonard
Hanson if he will agree to -the new Comprehensive Plan zoning and that
he will sign an agreement providing..:that he will accept whatever zoning
is put on the property under the new Comp Plan that will permit the
sale of horse trailers or that use. ,Motion carried 4--0.'
The City Attorney will:.draft such an agreement. It will also include
the sign be restricted to 4' x 81 and be non —flashing illuminated.
B. Don Durand SUP, Paved Access and Turn —around on Lake Elmo
Mayor Armstrong reviewed the PZC recommendations and minutes of -the
last Council meeting. Also reviewed was the non —conforming use section
of the Zoning Code, Larry Bousque, County Engineer, viewed this site
and saw no problem; but said a driveway permit is required.. The DNR
indicated no permit is necessary. Mr. Durand asked if this area is
indicated as a business on the new Comprehensive Plan Map. If not,
he would like it so des%;gnated. Mottaz indicated he has reoeived'many
calls and has reached dies following conclusions: 1) it is an expansion
of a non —conforming use. gbis ramp was not used to launch large boats
before now. By putting in the blacktop driveway it becomes wide open
public access and makes it a more commercial business. 2.) the City
Council has an obligation to protect -the residential neighborhood.
In this situation he feels the grandfather clause does not apply. The
City Council requested the adjacent property owner to stop launching
boats in the past.
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Donald, Durand Continued — Any affirmative action would be inconsistent
with Council feeling about a launch from the Regional Park and their
desire for no launch conveyed to -the County Commissioner this evening.
Mottaz moved, that the permit be denied; and, the owner be instructed
to put a chain across the ramp; that only boats owned by Pierre's Pier
are to be use; and that no public access be allowed. No second, motion
dies.
Mr. Durand stated he launches only fishing boats and non —motorized boats
now. He has a sign stating no ski boats allowed. Pott indicated that
discussion about boat sizes is not pertinent, that -the question is the
paved ramp. He feels the driveway at Pierre's Pier is not a, big
problem compared to the access on the adjacent property. Since the
County Engineer stated the driveway poses no problems this should be
a consideration. Morgan stated he has seen the site. Parking is
adequate and tis is an existing business. Mottaz feels by granting the
SUP the City is rezoning the area commercial. Armstrong suggested
limiting the horsepower of launched boats to 10 HP.
Audience comments included the City is being discriminatory by limiting
launched boats to 10 IiP while larger boats are owned by lakeshore
residents. Some felt this should remain just a rental area, and are
opposed to -the additional traffic on the lake. Dale Furstenburg,
Sheriff's Deputy, stated that there is no notice0l.e increase in
traffic in this area; also the launch area permits ears to stop
before entering Lake Elmo Avenue, thus avoiding accidents. Pott
suggested limiting the number of boats launched.
Armstrong moved, Morgan seconded, the City Council authorize a SUP
to Donald. Durand for the paved driveway and turn around with the fol,
lowing conditions:
1. He obtain the necessary County permits.
2. That he permit no more tha 11 boats to be launched
at any one time; and that said boats should be either
non —motorized or are boat operated by people who intend
to fish. (This speoifioall excluded those launching boats with
the intention to water ski.)
3. That he not exceed the legal nonconforming use of the
property.
4. That he provide off—street parking for all clients.
5. He sign a Resolution providing for 1-1F above.
This permit will be embodied in a resolution to be drafted by the
City Attorney. Motion carried 4-1. Mottaz voting nay.
TOM RAISIHis Application for Industrial Center in Section 32.
Mr. Weer desires -to construct an Industrial Center on the Robert _
Fraser property in Section 32. The property .is presently zoned SFU.
They are requesting it be rezoned Light Industrial. Also proposed is
the extension of 4th Street. Sewer is not presently extended into
this area. An on —site system will b e used until sewer and water are
extended. Ponding on —site is proposed to hold surface water. This
type of business qualifies for Industrial Revenue Bond financing.
They are asking the City to approve IRA's for -this project. The
projected cost of the project is $2.5 million. Armstrong questioned
the extension of lath Street. MaDot Proposed 4th Street as a frontage
road. He asked'if.they are requesting the City to construct the road.
Ifaiser indicated they will need lath Street completed before the building
is put up. Since 4th Street is proposed as a frontage road the Highway
Department will construct it at no cost to the City. The timeframe is
the question.
Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded, to instruct the Administrator to proceed
with the preliminary steps for securing Industrial Revenue Bonds.
Motion carried 4-0. Armstrong abstained. Pott wants to know what the
limit is on these bonds.
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KAISER CORTINIM: It was suggested the State be contacted and be made aware of
the Cityts interest in this proposal, Mr, Kaiser will have to
appear before the Planning Commission to request the rezoning and
subdivision ofthe land, This type of use is eonsistant with the
propcs ad. Comprehensive Plan,
I:' GINEERtS REPORT; A 'Tall Park Second Addition Improvements
The Engineer feels additional sealcoating needs to be done to bring
the improvement up to specs. Ile is recommending 550 feet of sealcoating
be done to cover roller marks, Bruce Folz stated -this will cost an.
additional $$19500. He feels this not a reasonable burden to place
on, the developer, Bngineer Rohrer stated this should be the respons—
ibility of the balektop contractor as the street was paved when the
weather conditions were not, favorable' 'thus causing a defective job,
Armstrong moved# Mottaz seconded' that the Rigineers report be enforced
to the fullest. Thus the Engineers recommendation of sealcoating be
completed by the developer, Discussion -. Pott suggested the sealcoating
be done in 1980 rather than 1979 in case additional sealcoating needs
to be done. Armstrong and Mottaz agreed to so amend the motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
The Ehgineer questioned the reduced area of the ponding and the steep—
ness of the slope down to the ponding area, The Council had previously
agreed to the ponding change, The &gineer questioned if capacity
of -the pond is as much as originally planned since it is deeper rather
than wider. Ile also questioned the design of the elopes+ indicating
they may be a safety hazard. The developer will stabalize the slope
with some -type of growth,
lhgineer Bohrer requested the Council to notify developers -that ac—
cording to their Development Agreement daily on —site inspection is to
be handled by the developers engineer. Some developers presume the
City .Engineer will handle this, The City Ihgineer will not sign any
certification of work .completed until he receives a certificate from the
developers engineer stating that the plans and specs have been complied
with, Periodic inspections will. be made by the City Engineer to
verify compliance,
B, Maintenance Buildin — Lhgineer Bohrer presented five alternative
designs. Ail of the plans, provide for expansion. Location of the
refuse will have to be verified for methane gas, The &gineer sug�-
eested a joint meeting with those departments that will utilize the
building and the City Council, Bid openings are tentatively scheduled
for the first part of October with work beginning around November 1,
City vehicles may be stored there over the winters but the site will
not be completed until spring, support from the Tri—Lakes area# for
manning this station will be sougb,t, Wes,Hendriksont T10A architect
and planner# will be meeting with the Council on this building. Morgan
stated the decision on earth sheltered vs non —earth sheltered could be
determined by the Building Committee# specifications will demand full
Council attention,
SPECIAL MEETING: August 1# 19799 Wednesday# 8:30 a,m,# has been set for an all
day Council meeting, The Administrator will prepare an agenda,
C, Iiar Drivewa — Fill for the driveway is available on —site. The
concrete foundation will be suitable for the foot bri.dge. It will need
railings and a wooden deck.
Mr, and Mrs. Nelson questioned how the City would handle the drainage
Problem through their property if the County does not take their
Property, If this becomes the case the City lhgineer will go out and
determine what work will need to be done, The Administrator will con—
tact the County and find out what the status of the Nelson property is
and contact the Nelsonts,
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D Other — Fire Station Addition — After excavating for the new ad—
dition it was determined that fill had been put where the .floor slab
will go. The estimated cost to remove the top soil and add granular
material will be $6800. The contract did not provide for this.
Armstrong moved, Johnson seeonded9 to authorize the additional expense
to remove -the top soil and put in additional granular material. The
.Administrator is to negotiate a change order. Motion carried 3-2,
Morgan and Pott voting nay. The top soil is to be placed around the
tennis courts at Pebble Paris... Pott feels the $800 should come out
of the Engineers Bond.
IRVIN COURT: .The adminis•trator sent letters to affected property owners requesting
4ey accept the financial responsibility ;for this project. The replies
indicated this is not desirable.
Armstrong moved9 Mottaz seconded, to adopt: Resolution 79-33 accepting
the Engineers report and calling a Feasibility Hearing. Motion carried
4-1. Johnson voting nay. A survey is needed to verify those people
contributing water.
ORDINANCE 7805 — PARK DONATIONS -RBS 3U%4 ff-4gW34: Delete -- approved 8/7/79
Johnson moved9 Morgan seconded to adopt; Ordinance 7805 an ordinaries
amending Chapter 401 of the 1978 Municipal Code of Lake Elmo9 relating
'to subdivision of land. Motion carried 5-0. The resolution will be
held until the next meeting.
201 ENGINEER: `.cabled until August 19 1979
COUNCIL REPORTS: A or
1. Goal and Budget session — already set for August 1, 1979
2. Code of Ethics — tabled until next meeting.
3. Seeler 'Land Sale — Mr. Seeler is offering to sell the City
some property near Sunfish Lake. Morgan stated he will call
Mr. Seeler and make an appointment to look at the property. It
was suggested this parcel should be offered to the Watershed.
B. Other. — PZC Alternate Appointment — The Council would. like to
see the applications
The Administrator will get information from other communities about
firemen compensation —reimbursement for attending fires.
ADMT.NISTRATORIS REPORT: A. AMM Levy LiMit Program July A 1979. 1-5 p.m.
The Administrator will try to attend. No one else is interested in
attending.
BENS Memo — Tabled until next meeting. This is to be considered in
the budget; also the Administrator will cheek on what the County is
doing.
C. Lioenses — Thomas W. Dahms9 Dahms Heating, Inc. 1124 17th Avenue N9
South St. Paulo Mn.
Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded, to approve the license for Thomas W.
Dahms. Motion carried 5-0.
D. Tr e removal and Boulevard Maintenance — tabled
B. 0' k. Street Parkin — tabled
F. Jaycee Woment" Softball Tournament —
Mottaz movedo Armstrong seconded to approve the permit for the Jaycee
Women's Softball. Tournament July 21, 19799 with 'the following conditions:
1. a $6200 bond be posted. 2. they hire a policeman to be on duty at
all times. they pay for the clean—up after the game. Motion
oarried 5-0.
G. Paul Ma uson letter — no action
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H. DeMontreville Road Parking — letter from County tabled
Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded, to authorize the Mayor to sign
contracts with Kusoht for DeMontreville Park and Close for Sunfish
Park from the Park Commission for overall park plans. Motion
carried 5-0.
CLAIMS; Morgan moved, Mottaz seconded, to approve Claims 79424 thru 79459
with the exception of 97425 to TKDA lbgineering, Motion carried
5-o.
The feasibility study on the ]Fire Tull Addition estimated the
engineering/architectural work would run about 12% of construction,
Current bill exceed 15016 of construction costs. Armstrong suggested
the amount be split 50/50,as one of the considerations in hiring
T.KDA wasa "not to exceed costs" basis. The Administrator will see
if this amount can be.negotiated with TKDA.
PITBLIC HEARINGS: The PZ,C requested the Administrator to make the Council aware
of citizen in —put at pubic hearings. They feel that if there is
no objections at the public hearing then the Council should take this
into consideration and not allow lengthy discussion at the Council
meetings. They feel this is defeating the purpose of the PEC holding
the hearings.
ADJOURNMENT: Mottaz moved, Morgan seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried,.
5-0. Time — 11:45 p.m.