HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-07-79 CCMCITY OF LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AUGUST 7, 1979
Councillor Pott convened the meeting at 6:32 p.m. with the following Councillors
answering the roll: Johnson, Morgan and Mottaz. Mayor Armstrong arrived at
6:35 p.m. Also in attendance Administrator.Whittaker and Engineer Bohrer (7:00).
AGENDA: Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, that the Agenda be -approved
with the following corrections: Delete Mayers appraisal and
Kaiser hearing; and add license for JAYCEES for Huff and Puff
Days, the Firemen for Street dance, and Mitchel Heating;_,and_
discussion on Double-feeing for permits; change in hearing
requirements for Flood Plain Management and Shoreland Management
permits when another government body has already held hearings
on the project; and discussion on Planning Commission concerns
about hearings held by the City Council. Motion carried 5-0.
MINUTES: Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, that the Council approve the
minutes of July 17 meeting deleting the reference to Resolution 79-34-
Motion carried 5-0
Armstrong moved, seconded by Johnson, to amend the minutes of the
June 19, 1979 City Council meeting to reflect that '4 a person in
the audience" made the remark that Brookman Addition may be the
cause of the water problem, in Lake Elmo Hardwood Lumber's parking
lot. Motion carried 5-0.
CLAIMS: Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, that Claims ##79460 to 79516 be
approved, excepting ##79484; and adding #19506, a refund to Howard
Springborn for a $224-55 overpayment of park donation for Green
Acres. ##79516, then becomes the final payroll check. Motion
carried 5-0.
CONSENT RESOLUTION: Resolution 79-36 - Armstrong moved, seconded by Pott, the
Council adopt RESOLUTION 79-36, a Resolution adopting consensus
motions made by the City Council August 1, 1979, at a 'Workshop
Session. (Copy attached to and hereby made a part of these minutes.)
Motion carried 5-0.
WALTER PECHAN: Variance to Sell 6 Acre Parcel off Keats and Future 46th Street.
Mr. Pechan appeared before the Council in March of 1979. At that
time the Council denied his variance request; but, said that if
Keats Avenue were brought up to rural standards and a maintenance
agreement were entered into with the City it would be reconsidered.
Mr Pechan has agreed to these conditions. Mr. Pechan is proposing
to dedicate 50 feet for the extension of Keats Avenue. The proposed
extended alignment is off -set by approximately 17 feet from the
existing Keats Avenue. The Council questioned the necessity of
up -grading the present driveway to the present standards of Keats
Avenue. Mottaz felt this may set a policy precedent by not requiring
the up -grading. He also questioned how many like situations are in
the City. This is a separately taxed, land -locked, 6 Acre parcel.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, to instruct the Engineer to
look at and set the standards for the driveway; and, have the City
Attorney draft an agreement for road maintenance, dedication and
emergency vehicle access to the property. Request tabled until the
next meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
PUBLIC INQUIRIES: None
CONTINUATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HEARING -
Arlo Levi - representing the 3M Company - Mr. Levi wanted to
reaffirm 3M's position on Carlton Park. 3M has expended millions
of dollars on preliminary planning anEIS Study and land acquistion.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HEARING CONTINUED: 3M
They also spent 22 years going through procedures with the City.
They did not request rezoning of the property; but, the last
Comprehensive Plan was changed to provide for the 3M facility.
Their present plan is adequate until 1985; and , they want the
City to recognize Carlton Park in the present Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Levi asked for an explaination for the change in the plan.
Mayor Armstrongread the letter from �M dated December, 1977; and,
said based on is letter, the City did not feel 3M was going to
actively pursue the development at this site. Mayor Armstrong
stated that, when 3M comes in with a plan for development, the
City will review it. Councilman Mottaz stated 3M did not show
good faith. 3M dropped the ball when they indicated they were
going to leave the state. The City believed this. Now 3M is coming
back back and saying Lake Elmo is not going to operate in good
faith and is suggesting to join others and sue Lake Elmo. Mr. Levi
stated 3M did not say they were going to move out of the state.
Mayor Armstrong stated 3M should come back in with plans when they
are ready to develop the property.
Mr. Hutchinson — Read statement giving the bac4round of the property.
IJu6 to tne location of the property, its proximity to the airport,
212, and the railroad tracks, and the fact it has been zoned
Industrial for 20 years; Mr. Hutchinson believes that Industrial
Zoning of the property is the only logical zoning. This property
should remain industrially zoned and he should not have to go
through rezoning.
Ward Holiday — Owner of 15 acres on County 15 and 30th Street and
3 —acres on Highway 212. He questioned whether this plan is
looking forward or way -back. He invested in this land because of
its potential for subdivision and development. (Mr,ljoliday
presently has a 22 acre parcel zoned commercial. This may fall into
the GRU area.) Mayor Armstrong said those who oppose a particular
zoning should come to the zoning hearings, later this summer —
Dick Hesse — Requested the Council take a straw ballot of those
ern in the audience who live on 10 acres or more, who are
opposed to the plan, and will be included in the GRU area. The
majority were opposed. He feels 5 to 10 acre lots will not keep
the area rural. He suggested clustered housing on 12 acre lots.
Mayor Armstrong indicated the PZC proposal of 7 homes per 40 acres
provided this. Mr. Hesse feels the present plan does not give
them any options for use of their land. Councilman Mottaz wanted
the record to show there were approximately 12 property owners in
the audience; this does not show the majority of property owners
in the City. Mr. Hesse stated that no one in the room, who owns
property is for the plan. Tom Armstrong said this is not true, as
he owns land.
Vince Douglas — Disagreed with the statement made by Councilman
Mottaz. 7779tated the City has a petition from residents who own
in excess of 3,000 acres in Lake Elmo. He asked if the Council
does not consider this the voice of the people. The business
community also submitted a petition. He feels the Council is
totally disregarding what the people in Lake Elmo are saying. He
suggested the area between 212 and the railroad remain industrial;
the area between 36 and the powerlines be zoned industrial; and
proper consideration for commercial development along Highway U
be given. Mayor Armstrong explained the City has an obligation
to plan for development where the City expects it and can accom—
modate it between now and 1990. Past estimates of population and
development have been wrong. Property in the City is being zoned
to its present use. Whan a different use is desired, the request
will be reviewed by the Council. The City is not going to allow
bad development. Spot zoning is not responsible action. The plan
shows where business and housing will generally go in the next 10
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V�nce,D2uglas continued - years and proposes areas where they
w==-Vvc"go=n the next 10 years.
Bill Boylan - Supports the idea of clustered housing.
Questioned what would happen to the remaining 30 acres
after 10 acres has been clustered. He is concerned the
remaining 30 acres may be abandoned or fall into absentee
ownership. He suggested the 5 acre minimum may be of
some merit here. The land will be in control of the land
owner and he has an option open to him if he chooses to
exercise it.
Martin Cohn - Federal Land Co. - Requested the City include
t eaTi r lanT-in the Comprehensive Plan in the manner proposed
by his plan. The proposal is in conjunction with a letter
sent to the City from their planner. Carl Dale. They ask
the City's consideration for this proposal.
George Kreiger - Still feels the City should sit down
with--resi"-""dents and discuss what the people want. He is
against the 1 per 40 acre zoning.
Maynard Eder - Many of the projections in the previous plan
d3 not happen for good reasons: energy, inflation, etc.
Washington County has had consistant development with very
good planning. Requests the Council look at all the factors.
Sit down with two groups in the City, the large land owners
and residents in the northeast area; and, work out a plan
they all can live with.
Councilman Johnson - questioned if this plan is significantly
a-ifTerent than w at we have worked under in the past. IIe
does not see the changes being discussed.
Ed. Whittman - Does not feel Lake Elmo has to worry about
a 50,000 population. They have all this open land and no
one to propagate it. He feels this plan is creating a
hazard for land owners. How can a land owner dispose of
his property with all these restrictions on it? He feels
much of the property will end up land -locked and road costs
will make sale of the property prohibitive. He suggests
the minimum lot size should be 13 acre and he feels the
minimum restrictions should apply.throughout the City.
Lake Elmo could not be filled up with people in 50 years
These restrictions do not address the needs of older residents
who desire to sell their land.
Mr. Jim Barton - Metropolitan Council - Lake Elmo is not
uniq eueu as many communities are going through the same
planning questions. Planning is -now getting more realistic.
The Metropolitan Planning Act requires communities to plan
for only 10 years. The S!+stems Statement identified the
capacity reserved for Lake Elmo; and, planned for the Lake
Elmo sewer availability. The capacity is 6,000 units. The
3M capacity was also allocated and the City should plan
within these capacities. If the City needs additional
capacity, the regional agencies might need as much as six
years lead time.
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Mr. Jim Barton -continued - If such a structure is built
prematurely, it creates a premature demand. If the MUSA
(- line is indicated along the western border of the City
other communities could request.the capacity. This holds
true alao if the line is indicated elsewhere, but not used.
Councilman Pott indicated that the City would have a better
case to retain these units if an area is designated.
Mr. Barton indicated that he does not foresee Woodbury or
Oakdale needing Lake Elmo's capacity.
Councilman Johnson directed to Mr. Levi - In order to
complete the Comprehensive Plan, it would be helpful to
know of 3M's time table and plan for the 10 year planning
period. Mr Levi stated the Maplewood site is adequate to
1985. 3M has not chucked the Carlton Park idea; and they
don't want to repeat the work they have already done.
Johnson questioned whether they could realistically use
plans that are 10 years old. Mr. Levi indicated the PUD
and land usage aspect can be used. Councilman Mottaz noted
3M has never requested a rezoning of this property. 3M
stopped the process just before a rezoning request. Mottaz
does not see how the GRU designation is harmful to 3M.
Mr. Barton indicated that if Carlton Park is not abown on
the Comprehensive Plan the City will have to go through the
process of revising < its plan. Councilman Pott indicated the
the previous Comp Plan was changed to accomodate Carlton
Park:
Mayor Armstrong closed the hearing on the Comprehensive
Plan at 8:35 p.m.
Councilman Pott desires some planning beyond 1990, in the
Comprehensive Plan. The Council will discuss the proposed
plan at the next regular meeting.
BREAK
ENGINEER'S REPORT: A. Flood Damage Quotes - Four local contractors
were contacted to Submit bids to repair a bituminous flume
and roadway ditches in the Lake Jane area. One quote was
'*Correction - received. T. A. Schifisky bid*1$2;275. The Engineer
A. Schiflky bid recommended the City accept this bid. Federal funding has
62,575. 9/4/79 been secured for the project. Armstrong moved, seconded by
Morgan, to accept the bid of T. A. Schifsky for $2,275 for
repair of the flume and resodding of the ditches. Motion
carried 5-0.
B. Schwartz Culvert - The Engineer said the water on
eithT eF de of the culvert is the same, indicating the
culvert is working. He also reviewed the drainage area and
compared it on the USGA map. He could find no natural
drainage area from the north. The culvert problems may
be caused by it being too short, too low, or the fact the
culvert is covered by fill.
C. Curb - 1st Street - The resident at 8015 1st Street
questioned then d tion of the curb in front of his
residence.
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C. Continued - The Engineer indicated amage had been done
y a snow plow or heavy truck; and was not due to defective
workmanship. The maintenance department will be made aware
of the problem and take care of it.
D. Foxfire Storm Sewer - The Engineer reviewed the print
of the overall drainage plan with the Council. There is no
pipe outlet into Lake Jane. Engineer Bohrer reviewed the
ponding areas. The one closest to Jane is dry. The VBWD
review and the drainage report indicate no water will go
into Jane. The engineer did not reevaluate the previous
engineers plan, his remarks are based on the VB review and
the construction plan. The Council is concerned with the
possibility of flooding of pond 19. This is the ponding
area closest to Lake Jane. All the other ponding areas
are ditched to 19. A review of the storm water run-off
report was scheduled for the next meeting. The Council
has also received complaints about the road from Foxfire to
Jane Road N as being a throughofare. The Engineer indicated
this will not be a through street. A gate and sign will
be installed. The Administrator will write the developers
and inform them the City desires the gate be installed as
soon as blacktopping is complete. Also the City would like
to review the gate design and work out access for emergency
vehicles.
Councilman Mottaz questioned if it would be worthwhile
for the Council to review the requirements for blacktop
roads and verify that the work meets the spgcifications
in order to avoid maintenance problems. The engineer
will review this question in setting design standards.
E. Pepin - Cancelled
F. Hardy _ Driveway- At the last meeting the engineer
zndi� cated it was available on the Hardy property for
the driveway construction. The Hardy's do not desire
the City to use the fill that is there. Engineer Bohrer
indicated the cost to furnish material only would be $1400.
Councilman Morgan stated that if the City must furnish the
fill, etc. the project will be too big for the guard to
handle. The engineer also questioned the bridge being on
property owned by someone other than the City. The
engineer will check the bridge location and the City's
need for its lot.
Mrs. Hardy has indicated she will build the bridge if the
City will donate the property the bridge will be on. The
Administrator will determine acquistion of the parcel by the
City. If the City purchased the property they can deed it
directly to the Hardy's; if they obtained it tax forfeit
it can be returned to the County and they (Hardy's) can
deal with them. The City prefers this solution. The
Hardy's would assume total responsibility for the project.
OLD BUSINESS: A. Sovereign Petition - refer to the letter from the
Valley Branch Watershed dated July 23, 1979. Valley
Branch will not undertake the project.
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A. Continued - The Administrator will ask for an estimate
of tfie P- re3iminary Fund, so that the petitioners can be
advised of the cost.
- B. Meyer Appraisal - Will be on the August 21 Agenda
C. Code of Ethics - Pott moved, seconded by Armstrong, to
adopt Ordinance 7807, Code of Ethics. Motion carried 4-0
Johnson abstained.
D. Resolution of Subdivision Park Fee Alternative; Durand
CUTD •. Tian man RTTP -
seconded by Armstrong, to adopt Resolution 79-38
A Resolution Relating to the Granting of a Special Use Permit
to Donald Durand for the Operation of a Boat Launch and
Turn -around in the City of Lake Elmo. Motion carried 4-1.
Mottaz opposed.
The subdivision park fee will be charged on parcels in
minor subdivisions recorded after 1968 where no park
donation has been made. Pott was in favor of iniating
the fee as of 1979, rather than 1968. Armstrong moved,
seconded by Morgan to adopt Resolution 79-37. A Resolution
Relating to Payment of the Fee Under the Subdivision
Ordinance in Lieu of Park Donation. Motion carried 4-1.
Pott opposed.
Hansen SUP Resolution was not ready.
E. Bingo Ordinance - Pott moved, seconded by Morgan to
in luc de B� inga -fcensing ordinance in the Codification,
when it is adopted. The annual permit fee will be set by
resolution. Motion carried 5-0.
F. Park Parcels - The Council reviewed maps of City owned
property and the county's proposed park acquisition. The
Administrator contacted the County about the Nelson property.
it was determined they do not hold the fee title to the
property nor is the Contract for Deed registered with the
County. This property is included in the Regional Park
acquisition.
G. Other - None
NEW BUSINESS: A. Set Revenue Shari__= ng Hearin - Johnson moved,
seconded by Pott to see-F the prziposed-use hearing.,,,for
Federal Revenue Sharing for August 21, 1979 at 8:15 p.m.
Motion carried 5-0.
B. Bergmann Flood Assessment - The Bergmann lots had.been
comb`— ined`-,were recorded with the County. Due to
the error they overpaid the 1976 assessment by $104. 00
Pott moved, seconded by Mottaz to waive their assessment
for the 1978 pumping. Motion carried 5-0.
C. VBWD Action on City permits for 1005 -
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan to set Monday, August 13,
at 9 p.m. for a Special Meeting to react to the permit ap-
plication. The PZC will hold the hearing and make their
recommendation at 8:30 that night. Motion carried 5-0.
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D. Kaiser Hearing - Cancelled
E. License - Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, to approve
the licenses for Dependable Heating and Air Conditioning,
2615 Coon Rapids Boulevard, Coon Rapids 55433 and William
Peterson, Mitchell Heating, 1229 Payne Avenue, St. Paul 55101
Motion carried 5-0.
Pott moved, seconded by Morgan to approve the license for
Highlight Homes, Inc., Richard Iiughes, 7510 Concord Blvd. E.
Inver Grove Heights 55075. Motion carried 5-0.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: A. Double Feeing - Councillor Pott recommended
th Council adopt an ordinaT� nce providing double feeing for
construction done without the proper permits being secured
first. The Administrator will ask the City Attorney to
draft an ordioaace setting a minimum fee of $50 on fees
or double the permit fee, whichever is more.
B. Huff ,an.. Puff � Liquor License - Armstrong moved, seconded
Fey Pott to ssu�-e a -beer lio sne e_ to the Jaycees for Huff
and Puff Days. The City will waive the clean-up bond and
police requirement. Motion carrie d5-0.
C. Firemen's Street Dance - Armstorng moved, seconded by
Jo nson, t' to issue a beeer license for the Firemen's Street
Dance. The clean-up bond requirement will be waived, there
will be police supervision. Motion carried 5-0.
D. County Planner - The City Council will meet the County
Planner, Bob Lockyear at 5:30 p.m., to discuss the Regional
Park.
E. Deliquent Water Bills - Several residents are over two
quarters delinquent on their City Water Bills. These re-
sidents will be notified by letter and phone before a
hearing is held to determine collection. Armstrong moved,
seconded by Morgan to set a hearing for Octover 2, 1979,
to consider certification of delinquent water bills to
the County for collection with taxes.
F. Administrator - Seminar on Personnel Evaluation
ffo__tf_aTmbv6d , Morgan seconded, to approve tree 20 registration
fee for the Administrator to attend a seminar on performance
evaluation and budgeting. Motion carried 5-0.
G. Tartan Park - The Administrator will write a letter
to Valley Branch requesting their response on Tartan Park
surface water problems; and request response by September 1.
ADJOURNMENT: Pott moved, seconded by Morgan to adjourn at 10:1.3 p.m.
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R-79- 38
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE GRANTING OF A SPECIAL USE
PERMIT TO DONALD DURAND FOR THE OPERATION OF A BOAT
LAUNCH AND TURN -AROUND IN THE CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Lake Elmo has
considered an application submitted by Donald Durand for the
purpose of pavinq* , a boat launch and turn -around on his
property on Lake Elmo Lake; and
WHEREAS, this matter has been considered by the City
Council at numerous meetings and hearings on the matter:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council. of
the City of Lake Elmo as follows:
1. Said Special. Use Permit shall be granted to the
applicant upon the following terms and conditions: a) the
applicant obtains the necessary County permit b) the applicant
allows no more than 11. boats to be launched at any one time
c) all said boats shall be either non -motorized or operated
by persons who intend to fish. This condition is intended to
specifically prohibit launching boats for the purpose of
water-skiing d) the applicant not exceed the legal non -conforming
use of his property d) the applicant provide sufficient off
street parking for all customers e) the applicant agrees to
these conditions.
Adopted by the City Council. of the City of Lake Elmo this
_2_ day of _Atnust , 1979.
Attest:
Laurence E. Whittaker, AdminTsItYator.
I have read the foregoing terms and conditions of the Special Use
Permit granted to me and I hereby agrQ to its t rms.,
�D6nald Durand
R-7 9 --a7
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION RELATING TO PAYMENT OF THE FEE UNDER THE
SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN LIEU OF PARK DONATION
WIiEREAS, the City of Lake Elmo has adopted various sub-
division -ordinances providing for donation of park land or in
the alternative the payment of a fee to the City; and
WHEREAS, since October 3, 1968, the City of Lake Elmo has
by ordinance regulated minor subdivisions which were exempt
from the'park dedication requirement; and
WHEREAS, the City Council has now determined it is in the
best interests of the City to collect a fee in the amount of
$1.75.00 in lieu of park land dedication on all those minor lot
subdivisions occuring since October 3, 1968:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council. of
the City of Lake Elmo:
1. Effective .immediately all minor subdivisions occurring
since October 3, 1.968, shall pay to the City a fee of $175.00per. lot,
in lieu of park donations, at the time a building permit is issued
for that lot.
2. The City Administrator is authorized and directed to
determine what parcels are effected and to collect said fee.
Adopted by the City Council of the City of. Lake Elmo this
p day of �ita.g„G* 1979.
WT�mas G. Armstrong, Mayor 1
Attest:
ACl,iw� � • W LGCt
Laurence E. Whittaker,W Admanl k ator