HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-21-80 CCMLAKE ELIMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBP,i?. 21, 1980
Mayor Armstrong called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m.
Councillors in attendance: Novak, Pott, Morgan, Mottaz (5:15)
AGENDA.: ADDITIONS — Metropolitan Open Space Plan
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to approve the agenda as amended..
Motion carried ).�-0. Mottaz absent.
MINUTES: Correction - October 7, 1980 — Page 6, Odin Olson — the garage will be
2 ft. higher than the maximum 14 ft. to .....Motion corrected to read...
the garage to be 2 ft, higher than the maximum 14 ft..#.#.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to approve the minutes of October 7,
1980, as amended. Motion carried 4-0.
CLAIMS: Additions — George Seigfried, Park Shelter — $$129$80.80. (10% of the
unpaid balance will be held for clean—up); and Christ Lutheran Church,
Saurkraut Dinner for the Council — $$33.75
Pott moved, seconded by Armstrong, to approve Claims 80714 thru 80751,
including the two additions. Motion carried 11 0.
Administrator Whittaker will check the assessments for Irvin Court,
Beutel Pond, and Legion Pond for the next meeting,
BUILDING INSPECTOR'S REPORT:
.A. City Office Roof — Bids on the office roof will be ready October. 28.
The roof cannot be insulated because the roof supports will not bear the
load. The entire roof will have to be done, temporary tarring cannot be
done, The Council has scheduled a special meeting on October 28, to consider
the bids, (Note date change later in meeting.)
B, Park Shelter — Thkee minor items need to be completed: the heating
system, privacy shield for the menb restroom and clean—up.
NOVEMBXR 4, 1980 COUNCIL MEETING: Armstrong moved, seconded by Novak, to change
the November 4, 1980, meeting to Wednesday, November 5, 1980 at 6:30'P.m.
Motion carried 4-1. Pott opposed. He prefers a 7:30 meeting time.
The meeting was changed because of the election.
ADMINISTRATOR IS R11PORT:
A. Bids -Y Civil Defense Sirens — The City received one bid for MgWO,
for the Cimarron siren. The Administrator recommended rejecting the bid
and rebidding for Cimarron and Tri—Lakes on October 31. He does not feel.
the City should accept a bid that is more than 50% over the estimated
cost.
The Council discussed siren size and what was included in the original
estimate; Pott recommended the siren bid be a smaller horsepower unit.
The Council agreed., if this were possible.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to reject all bids and rebid the
Civil Defense sirens for Cimarron and the Tri—Lakes. Motion carried 5-0.
B. Status Civil Defense —
1. Cimarron Meeting — The Administrator reported that the meeting
went well with Cimarron; but, only about 20 residents attended.
2. Civil Defense Director — Mayor Armstrong reviewed the Council's con—
versation with Reneta Paulson, the new Civil Defense Director. The
Council `agreed to pay expenses and mileage; but, indicated this is
a volunteer /paxt—time job with no reimbursement other than expenses,
The Council agreed that some short mileage trips be borne by the Director.
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Civil Defense Director Cont'd — The Administrator will meet with Mrs,
Paulson and outline the parameters of the job.
'The Council recommended that the Director attend the Damage Assessment
Conference.
C. Auditors Contract — The Administrator recommended the Council retain
the firm o£ DeLaHunt, Veto. After reviewing the Administrator's memo
L dated September 28, 1980, evaluating all the auditing firms and discussing
the bids, the Council decided to award the contract to the low bidder,
Armstrong move, seconded by Pott, to award. the Auditors Contract to
the low bidder, Moen & Penttila, Ltd, at $5,700. Motion carried 5-0,
The Council requested that ;:this ,years audit report be presented in a more
simplified form,
PARK COMMISSION. Tom Monette reported on how the money from Jaycee's Buff: and
Puff Days is allocated. $1,000 has been expended in Tablyn Park on picnic
tables and grills. This off —sets the 819000 City expenditure for play
equipment at Lake Elmo school. These amounts cancel out each other in the
1980 Budget.
A. Park Plans
1,1, Tablyn. Park — Leo Gehloff present the Master Plan for Tablyn Park.
This plan was accepted in June of 1978. Development of the park is
< following the projected schedule, Walking trails in the park are being bid
now; and will be completed this year.
Mottaz moved, seconded by Morgan, to accept the Master Plan for Tablyn
Park, Motion carried 5-0.
2. DeMontreville Park — Jim Yarusso presented the Master Plan, completed
in 1979. Iie outlined the proposed uses in the two park sections. The
main park is designated to retain its natural characteristics. Walking
trails will constitute the primary development. The small 6 acre park
will provide more active park use, The Council discussed the limited
parking area for the 24 acre park. This area can be expanded should
the need arise.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, to accept the Master Plan for DeMontreville
Park, with the recommendation that the Park Commission study future expansion
of the parking area. Motion carried 5-0.
3. Lions Park — Sue Dunn presented the Master Plan. She reviewed the
work that has been completed, the park shelter, ball diamond, fencing,
etc. Resurfacing of the tennis courts will be bid in the spring. ..
Pott asked if the Commission would be receptive to trading a portion
of the park land, in back of the park shelter, to Lake Elmo hardwood
in exchange for a second City well site. The Commission would like
to avoid giving up any park property, if possible.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Pott, to accept the Master Plan for Lions Park.
r Motion carried 5-0. The Park Commission will be consulted about netotiations
\_ between the City and Mr. Rogers.
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PARI{ COMMISSION: J�. Sunfish Park — Ed Nielsen present the Master Plan for
Sunfish Park. Be reported that the Commission intends to keep this park
primarily in a natural state with walking trails, ski trails, and
l picnic areas. They do not intend to expand the parking area.
The Council asked the status of the agreement between the Commission
and Valley Branch Project 1005 relating to pumping across the ski
-trails in the spring. The Commission ,passed a motion stating no
pumping should be done between November 15 and March 1,5. This, and
possible bridge trailq will be discussed with the Watershed.
The Council discussed the offer from Everett Beaubien to purchase
additional lakeshore around Sunfish Lake. This offer will be discussed
at the November meeting.
Mottaz moved, seconded by Pott, to accept the Master Plan for Sunfish. Park.
Motion carried 5-0.
5. Reid Park — A concept plan has been discussed; but, no Master.
Plan has been developed. The Council and the Park Commission agreed
to delete the pool concept and the golf course from the 20 year plan.
.The Commission will continue to work on developing a Master. Plan.
B. 5—Year and 20—Year Capital Plan — Councilman Morgan gave a, brief
Synopsis of future park use projections. He stated the Commission does not
intend to acquire additional park land; and, that current park development
has been designed and constructed for low maintenance at the lowest possible
cost. Money is available in the Park Reserve to cover all -the items listed
in the 5—Year Plan. The 20—Year Plan contains suggestions -that could be
needed or considered within 20 ,years.
C. _1g81 Capjta7..Budet — Many listed items were appropriated in 1980.
Additional playground equipment has been included. Items in Lions Park,
not completed in 19809 will be carried over to 1981.
Armstrong moved., seconded by Mottaz, to approve the 1981 Paxk Budget.
Motion carried 5-0. (A copy of the 1981 Budget attached hereto)
DINNER,.: CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH
ENGINEER a S REPORT:
A. Derrick's Bond and Acceptance — 5th and 6th Addition — The developer
has requested the City accept the street and storm sewer improvements
prior to clean—up and total reduction of the bond, The Engineer reported
some ditching and cleaning out of a pond remain incomplete. Brian Crombie,
Derrick Land, does not think the pond work can be completed until spring.
IIe stated the waterway ditiching is complete. Derrick would like the City
to accept the completed improvements and retain the remaining bond ($5,000)
until the pond work is completed. Engineer Bohrer said th.er was no problem
in accepting the improvements. Administrator Whittaker recommended accepting
-the improvements and retaining the bond.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, -to adopt R-80-591 accepting the
r improvements for DeMontreville Highlands 5th and 6th Addition. Motion
carried 4-0. Mottaz absent. Crombie said he will try to get the pond dredging
completed this fall.
R-80-59
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE STREET AND STORM SEWER
IMPROVEMENTS FOR DEMON'REVILLE HIGHLANDS 5TH ADDIITION
AND DEMONTREVILLE HIGHLANDS 6TH ADDITION AND REDUCING
THE BOND TO $5,000.00 PRIOR TO FINAL CLEANUP.
WHEREAS, the developers of Demontreville Highlands
5th Addition and Demontreville Highlands 6th Addition have
completed the street improvements and storm sewer improvements
required under the Development Agreements between the City and
said developer; and
WHEREAS, said street improvements and storm sewer improve-
ments have been inspected by the City Engineer and said City
Engineer has recommended acceptance of these improvements; and
WHEREAS, the City Engineer has reported to the City
( Council that some ditching and cleanup work of a pond remain
to be completed, but that the developer and the City Engineer
feel this final work cannot be done until the Spring of 1981; and
WHEREAS, the City Engineer has recommended the City retain
a bond of $5,000.00 to assure completion of the ditching and
pond cleanup; and
WHEREAS, Section 401.510 D of the Subdivision Ordinance
provides the subdivider shall warrant the said improvements
for one (1) year after their. acceptance;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of
the City of Lake Elmo as follows:
1. The street improvements and storm sewer improvements
constructed by the developer of the plat of Demontreville
Highlands 5th Addition and Demontreville Highlands 6th Addition
be, and the same hereby are, accepted by the City Council for
maintenance subject to the right of the City to require the
developer to perform any corrective work which may appear to
be necessary to the City for a period of one (1) year following
the adoption of this Resolution.
2. The City acknowledges that some final cleanup work
remains to be done relating to a ditch and a pond and that
this work will be completed as early as possible in the Spring
of 1981. In order to complete this work, the developers bond
shall be reduced to the sum of $5,000.00.
3. The City acknowledges the installation of certain
utility improvements by the developer and various public
utilities in the plat of Demontreville Highlands 5th Addition
and Demontreville Highlands 6th Addition, however, the City
accepts no responsibility whatsoever for maintenance of these
utility improvements.
Adopted this 21st day of October, 1980, by the City Council
of the City of Lake Elmo, Washington County, Minnesota.
Thomas G. Armstrong, Mayor
ATTEST
Laurence Whittaker
City Administrator
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LAIQ LLMO CITY COUNCJIL M KINC, OCTOBER 219 1980
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ENGIN:EER'S REPORT: B. Ilubo.ette- _Culvert: Donald. Hubenette, 8160 Hill Tr.. N.,
contacted the Administrator about spring flooding of his property, caused
% by the culvert between his property and Olson Lake. The culvert freezes,
1 restricts the run—o£.f. and backs the water 'up on Hubenette's property.
The solution would be a culvert that provides access from the top in order
to thaw it out. Estimated cost would be $800 to $10000. This problem
exists for about one week in 'the spring. The culvert is presently under—
water, and once opened the lake is free to flow back onto the property.
Mottaz recommended plugging the culvert and fill the yard and driveway area.
The Engineer felt the culvert should remain open in case the lake recedes,
but agreed with the filling proposal. The Council agreed; and instructed.
the Admin:S.strator to notify Mr, Hubenette of this recommendation.
C. Boutel. Pond — The valve needs to be installed. Engineer Bohrer is
waiting for final approval from the County and verification that all their
downstream improvements are complete. This project should be completed by
November.l.
D. Eagle Point Channel — Harem's Driveway — Engineer Bohrer distributed
the survey that showed where the driveway, culvert, and channel are in
relation -to the City's property and adjacent property. The culvert is on
City property. Ile recommended a complete title search be made.
The City withdrew its offer to Haxdys, on relocating their driveway, on
September 2,5, 1980, after no response was received to the offer.
The Council will reevaluate this after the title opinion is complete and
it is determined how long the driveway has existed. The Council will then
decide on renegotiating the offer or beginning the necessary channel work,
E, Maintenence Building — Legion Pond — The Council ordered the Legion
Pond project, per the submitted petition, on October 7. The petitioners
decided to do the wotk themselves and withdrew their petition October 111.
They will still use the fill from the Naintenance Building site.,
The Council discussed the expenses incurred from the time the petition was
received until the petition was withdrawn and who is responsible for the
exgineering and expenses.
Armstrong moved,seconded by Novak, to allow the petitioners to withdraw
their petition provided that an agreement is reached whereby all the
expenses the City has incurred will be paid by those petitioning. Discussions
the Engineer estimated between $500 and ,$1,000 has been expended, ( The
petition was dated October 3, the project was ordered October 79 and the
request to withdraw was received October 14.) Motion carried 5-0.
The Council further discussed what benefit the petitioners received for this
expenditure, Morgau asked for a breakdown of the costs. The Engineer will
compile the figures. Ile also stated work has begun on the residents
property by a, private contractor, 4.he Building Inspector will continue —
to inspect the sewer systems.
(_ Armstrong moved, seconded by Novak, to rAind the previous motion and con—
sider the petitioners request to withdraw and their liability when exact
costs are available. Motion carried 5--0,
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ENGINEER'S REPORT: Maintenance Building Fill - Bob Mogren, contractor for the
Legion Avenue residents, contacted the .Engineer about using the material
at the landfill. The 11agineer said he should be able to remove almost all
the excess material at no cost to the City.
The Council agreed that removing the fill is of substantial benefit
04900045,000) to the City and that no costs should be assessed against
the three Legion Pond petitioners. The Administrator recommended getting
a price from Mogren to .finish the rough grading and gravel work on the
driveway and in front of the building. The Council discussed location
of the driveway.
Armstrong moved' seconded by Mottaz, to reaffirm the original site plan
location of the Maintenance Building driveway across from 42nd Street.
Motion carried 5-0.
The Administrator will get a qudse from Mogren to finish the ,grading work
as shown on the plan, This will be ready ,for the Special Meeting October. 28,
MEETING DATE CIIANGE: Armstrong moved' seconded by Mottaz, to change the scheduled
Special Meeting from October 28, at .5:00 p.m. to Wednesday' October 29,
at 5:00 P.M. in order that Councilman Morgan can attend. Motion carried 5-0
Bids on Park Trails, Office Roof, Jamaca Gate, and Finish Grading at the
Landfill will be considered.
15TH STREET VACATION: Mayor Armstrong reopened the public hearing at 8:12 p.m.
There was no one in the audience for the hearing. Mayor Armstrong closed
the hearing at 8:13 p.m.
Armstrong moved' seconded by Mottaz, to adopt R-80-609 vacating 15th Street
as indicated on the map. (Map attached and a part of these minutes.)
Motion carried 5-0,
SUMMARY ACTION ON LEGION POND: The Administrator reviewed the Engineers report
on pumping of the test wells. He reported that the water filled back in,
within minutes of being pumped out, thus indicating it is a groundwater
problem, as the Engineer had previously indicated.
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
B. Firemens Camp Plan - Councilman Pott reported that the proposed plan
met with genera]. agreement of the Firemen. $5,300 was budgeted for the
firemen. It was distributed as follows: Chief - $125 per year; Assistant
Chief - $6100 per year; Ca tains - $675 per year; and Firemen $50 per ,year.
The balance (about $4,000� will be prorated on man -calls, per man. This
was developed by the Firemen. The Chief will present the final plan.
Morgan moved, seconded by Armstrong, to accept the proposed plan and dis-
tribution of the $659300 Firemen's Budget, subject to final presentation
of the plan by the Fire Chief, Motion carried 5-0.
E. Christman Lights - Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to budget
$6200 to cover expenses in putting up and taking down the Christmas
lights; and the City will follow the same procedure used. .last year.
Motion carried 5-0.
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION VACATING A PORTION OF 15TH STREET NORTH.
WHEREAS, the County of Washington has submitted to the
City of Lake Elmo a Petition praying for the vacation of
a portion of a public street in said City legally described
as follows, to -wit:
That part of 15th. Street North, commencing
at the West Quarter Corner of said Section 27;
thence North 89 degrees 11 minutes 48 seconds
East (Bearing based on the Washington County
Coordinate System South Zone) along the East -
West quarter section line of said Section 27
for 1761.70 feet to the point of beginning of
that part of 15th Street North to be vacated,
said point of beginning also being a point in
the center line of 15th Street North; thence
continuing in an easterly direction along the
traveled center line of said 15th Street North
to a point where said traveled center line inter-
sects the North line of said Government Lot 4
and said Vacation there terminating, The north-
erly right-of-way line of said 15th Street North
to be vacated is to terminate at the North line
of Government Lot 4 and the southerly right-of-
way line is to terminate at a point of inter-
section with a line described as follows:
Commencing at the Northeast Corner of said
Government Lot 4, thence South 89 degrees 11
minutes 48 seconds West along the North line
of Government Lot 4 for 788.5 feet; thence South
0 degrees 48 minutes12 seconds East to the
intersection with the Southerly line of said
15th Street North and said line there terminating.
WHEREAS, said Petition came on for hearing before said
City Council at a regular meeting thereof held on Tuesday,
October 21, 1980, pursuant to Notice thereof published and
posted as required by law; and
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WHEREAS, the City Council has reviewed this Petition
with concern for the interest of the public; and
WHEREAS, the street proposed for vacation is no longer,
needed as a public street; moreover, by vacating the same, the
property will be returned to the tax rolls and will enhance the
taxable value of all the lands abutting thereon and affected
thereby; and
WHEREAS, for the foregoing reasons, it appears to be in
the public .interest to vacate the street described above;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the above -described
street be, and the same hereby is, vacated.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Clerk shall prepare
a Notice of Completion of these proceedings which shall
contain the name of the City, and the identification of the
vacation, a statement of the time of completion thereof and
a description of the real estate and land affected thereby.
Such Notice shall be presented to the Washington County Auditor
who shall enter the same in his transfer records and note upon
the instrument over his official signature the words "Entered
in the transfer records". This Notice shall then be filed with
the County Recorder, all as required by Section 368.01, Sub-
division 25 of the Minnesota Statutes.
Adopted by the City Council of the City of Lake Elmo
this 21st day of October, 1980.
ATTEST:
Laurence Whittaker
City,Administrator
Thomas G. Armstrong, Mayor
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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MR17PING, OCTOBER 21, 1980 -6-
ADMCNIST'RATOR'S REPORT- P. Lake Sevols Ponds in Region Park Reserve — The
Administrator reported that the dike in down on Eagle Point,
and the maintenance crew cleaned out the outlet to Lake Elmo and distributed
a copy of the lake levels for Eagle Point and Lake Elmo, He will meet with
the County and discuss ponding between the ]sakes soon,
G. Licenses — Morgan moved, seconded by Armstrong, to approve the following
licenses: Montgomery Ward & Co., 1)00 University, St, Paul — heating; and,
Hinding Co., Inc., 915 W. 7th, St, Paul — heating and air conditioning.
Motion carried 5-0,
COUNCIL REPORTS:
A. Clown—U DaYs — The,Administrator reported Clean —Up Days went as
usual. Neither the hauler nor the paper truck came. Pdtt noted that
these people should be contacted further ahead and the re -cycling aspect
stressed. The Administrator will prepare a cost breakdown of Clean —Up
Days to determine if two days a, year are economically feasible or
necessary.
B. e,n S acme flan. — Administrator Whittaker reviewed his comments on
the Metropolitan Open Space Plan with the Council.
The Council agreed with his comments and recommendations. The Administrator
will write the Met Council and reitterate the City0s concerns about the plan.
I11'ITTLE SUNI'ISII/CIMARRON HEARING- Mayor Armstrong reopened the hearing at 8-30 p.m.
Engineer Bohrer reported that he has continued to study the alternatives
available; and has contacted thr regulatory agencies to begin the nermi+
-process. Ile also reported he had appeared. before ValleyBranch and the
PCA to present the feasibility study. Valley Branch, indicated that Alt.
2 and 3 were unacceptable unless all other alternatives were infeasible.
They feel the flooding should be.solved on —site. The indicated they are
firmly committed to provide an outlet to horseshoe Lake; in conjunction with
I-94 construction, about 198L4. PCA indicated no concern with the dike.
They expressed concern about water quality after the flooding. (Since the
last meeting, Cimarron has begun plans to implement Alternate 1, the flood
protection dike.) Engineer Bohrer stated that the dike will give reasonable
assurance that the treatment plat will not be endangered; but did make
them aware that the first effluent pond (lagoon) would, overflown into Little
Sunfish if the water level around the pond was not reduced., along with the
possibility of the treatment plant flooding. If the plant flooded, the
PCA and the Health Department have the authority to close the park, if t1W
determine a health hazard exists. DNR has been contacted. They indicate
agreement with Valley Branch on transfering water downstream. The flood
protection, dike does not require a permit from PAC or DNR. Valley Branch
may require one,
COMMENTS-
Councilman Mottaz asked if the dike were constructed, would this assure that
the park would not be cl.os.ed next spring?
}engineer Bohrer indicated a 75% assurance. Unforseen conditions could
cause flood waters to top the dike and there are constructural limitations
on its height.
Mayor Armstrongs.aid a solution. must be found that assures the park will
not be closed.
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LITTLE SUNFISH HEARING:
Engineer Bohrer estimates 125 acre feet need to be removed or stored,
Jess Mottaz asked if ground water or run-off is responsible for flooding,
Engineer Bohrer replied both affect the lake; but, he does not know which is the
predominant factor. Records from Valley Branch, piezometer readings by
Cimarron and TKDA all locate the ground water table within 1-2 feet of
each others reading. This indicates that 6 feet or so can be removed from
Little Sunfish before getting into the ground water table. If six feet
are removed, the Engineer said the plant would be almost 100•1 safe.
Steven Taylor, Cimarron, asked if there was an over -flow would 6 .feet still have
to be removed from Little Sunfish to get the same results?
Dagineer Bohrer said no,
Steven Taylor asked how much would have to be removed with, over --flow?
Ehgineer Bohrer said an over -flow would have to be installed a few feet lower
than the present water surface of 879. If this type of over -flow is allowed,
it would have to be a valved type similar to Beutel Pond, that could
be opened and closed as necessary,
Councilman Morgan noted that somewhere between 0 and 125 ft, would help.
Engineer Bohrer said you would get some help by diking, somemore by transferring
into other potholes. is estimate of 125 acre feet includes water that
is in Little Sunfish and some estimate of bank storage that will, seep out
as the water is being removed, but no recycling of any ground water.
Councilman Mottaz asked .for a clarification of the Board of Managers decision
that, even though we are'faced'with a good possibility (90&/) of having to
close Cimarron Park, they would not give the City a permit to pump out
125-acre feet into an area that is not flowing out. It will not ad.d
to the elevation of Horseshoe Lake nor the rate the water is flowing out.
Would you (VBW.D) rather the City take the risk of losing sewer for 25%
of the pipulation of Lake IRmo next spring than to authorize the City
or give up permission to pump out 125 acre feet?
George Hedges - Larry Bohrer said we have flooding problems downstream already
and, VBWD would like to see everything else possible done before we start
passing off water.
Engineer Bohrer went on to say that the general lay of Cimarron's property is
not conducive to pending. There are no natural depressions. In his
opinion, one would have to make a depression by making a :dike or ex-
cavating. Another possibility is to split Little Sunfish Lake in half
at County Road. 70 by blocking the connecting culvert, which is submerged.
He had approached the County with the possibility of plugging this large
culvert, installing a small culvert at a higher elevation to protect their
roadbed (they would not allow anything that would. saturate their subgrade)
and then pump some of the water from the south side to the north side.
This would increase the level of the north side about four feet. The
water would encroach onto some property that it is not encroaching on
now: Tartan Meadows Subdivision. And, it would, jeopardize the gravel
driveway to the farmsted at Tartan Park. The gravel driveway would have
to be relocated - probably across Paul Emerson's property, if he would
agree. The County would not give the Ilhgineer a firm answer. They recom-
mended sumitting a permit application for consideration.
Administrator Whittaker asked the cost of this vs pumping.
Bohrer does not have an accurate cost analysis; but estimated pumping 125 acre
feet would be $109800 and pumping half the amount could be about half
the cost regardless of where it is pumped. Additional costs would be in
installing the culvert across County 70. This cost could be about $1,000
if the County allows the City to open -cut the County road. Generally,
however, they require augering underneath the road. This operation
would be at least as expensive as Alternate 2 ($109800),
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LITTLE SUNFISH: Administrator Whittaker noted, besides the culvert, we would
have to replace the driveway and would probably have easement costs.
Engineer Bohrer noted this would not endanger any residents:or buildings,
but it would take more property.
Al Lehman, 3M , still has problem with some of the L'hgineer's numbers. Ile
feels the problem is primarily due to the surface run—off, not the ground
water. From 'their .records surface water had the most extreme change in the
five ,years that they have kept records. For instance, in five days in late
August, we had a, five inch rain., Little Sunfish rose 4.1 ft., Lake limo
rose less 'than a foot, Horseshoe rose 1 ft. Then, after a period of
time of little rainfall, Sunfish receded to a point that is just
a little above Horseshoe Lake (a foot or so above). In the five years
of records Little Sunfish has never been lower than Horseshoe Lake.
Lhgineer Bohrer said that theiopographic map the City has the water elevation on
Little Sunfish Lake was 864.5. Now, it is about 15 .ft. above that. He
said this must be due to the water table as well as surface water.
Horseshoe has been down in that period to time, also. The water table
in the entire area is up.
Mayor Armstrong asked if Sunfish and Horseshoe rise and fall together?
Mr. Lehman replied no, Sunfish is alway a little higher than Horseshoe. Little
Sunfish is more affected by a heavy rainfall than Horseshoe or Lake Elmo.
Armstrong asked if Horseshoe would rise if Sunfish was 6 feet higher than Horseshoe?
Mr. Lehman said yes, I think it would, over a period of several months. Sunfish
does recede to an elevation somewhat above horseshoe„ so it -gets into the
ground water area. that goes directly to Horseshoe. The reverse is a,1so
truo. If you pump Sunfish down, it will rise to the level of Horseshoe
Lake. Even if there is some sealing of -the lake and, although there may
by a seal., due to the compaction of County Road 70, water may pass from
the south side to the north side if the culvert is plugged and ,you pump
from the south side to the north side of Sunfish Lake itself, we
don't know that pumping from one side of the road to the other is going to
to prevent it from coming back.
Engineer Bohrer said the roadbed itself would act like a dike. It is quite wide; but,
some seepage may occur, as with any dike. It is not something that would
solve the -total problem. We would have to incorporate more of these alternates
to gain a higher level of confidence.
Mr. Lehman said the basic problem is from storm water, getting a fair amount of
rainand having it rise. If you pump out Sunfish, it is going to rise
back up to a level that won't handle the storm. Horseshoe is just 2 feet
higher in elevation than Sunfish. If you pump it down, it is going to
come back up to about the same elevation. -
Larry Bohrer replied, that is assuming that the ground water table is the same elevation
as the surface on Horseshoe Lake.
Mr.. Lehman said their water table tends to slope from west to east so it appears
to in in the neighborhood of 78% of Sunfish Lake. The Watershed's obser—
vation well, across from Cimarron, just west of Sunfish, has an elevation
of 817 for the ground water.
Mayor Armstrong asked is pumping from the south to the north, using County 70
as a dike will solve half the problem?
Engineer Bohrer explained the relative size of Sunfish is 13A on the north and
8 to 8 1/2 acres on the south. The rise of the land is fairly steep so
you don't gain a great amount of area to raise the level a couple of feet.
Armstrong said this south to north pumping be considered Alternative LF.
Engineer Bohrer said there are a lot of different alternatives, if we are not allowed
r to transfer water to Horseshoe, then the other alternatives not considered
\, either because of high costs or they did not solve the total problem, now
have more importance
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOI3rR 219 1980 ..9_
Mayor Armstrong noted that Alternative 1, construction of a flood protection dike,
.is going to be done by Cimarron.
Steven Taylor confirmed their construction of Alternative 1, then stated, I look
upon -the raise of Sunfish Lake encroaching on our property and. any
damage to our property as our problem. We are not expecting public money
to pay for raising the dike or any damage to our property. It seems
the other side of the coin is that if a public body of water rises
predictably, and becomes at -health hazard, and there is nothing .further we
can do about it, then, this becomes a public problem.
Mayor Armstrong asked how .high the dike will be in alternative 1.
Tom Noyes, Cimarron Ihgineer, stated basically, we are constructing alternative 1
as listed, but slightly lower. The would provide for a lake level increase
of 5 feet with. I foot of free—boexd or less than a 25% chance of flooding
due to snowmelt.
Armstrong said, if we out tho chance of .flooding from 100% to 2594 what do we have
to do to eliminate the 25%. Is it enough to pump 67 1/2 acre feet of
water from one side of the road to the other?
Councilman Mottaz asked about Tom Noyes? statment that the treatment plant could
not stand the pressure if th.e dike is built to the height proposed..
Tom Noyes stated, if we have a lot of pressure greater than 3 ft. differential, we
fear structural damage. We have placed piezometers on both sides of the
treatment tank in order to monitor this. So, if we start to approach
situation, we will have to take some other type of action. But, we see
no other choice for Cimarron but to build the protection dike. This
is 9,13. we can do.
Armstrong asked if the dike is going to be as high as propoed in Alternate 1,
Tom Noyes indicated they have not looked at any elevations. We have basically said
that we are going to build a dike. We haven't drawn up plans as ,yet. It
will probable be the same elevation.
Armstrong said, if we assume that Alternate 1 is accomplished, and we reduce our
chance of a flood —out to 25%; how much pumping do we have to do to reduce
it , as close as possible, to a 0% chance.
Larry Bohrer said, the lake level would have to be reduce two to three feet.
Armstrong asked if pumping from the south to the north could accomplish this. The
Engineer said. yes.
Steven Taylor noted that if ,you effectively make a dike out of County 709 now ,you
do not have a 22A lake in which to receive the run—off; now ,you have an
B acre lake.
Larry Bohrer said that if the run—off accumulates on the north side, we still have -to
provide a culvert about 3 feet below the low point in the .road so that; I
County Road 70 does not wash out. This is not a good alternative. It is
just one of the alternatives. This is not the total answer.
Armstrong read and reviewed Alternative 31 Gravity outlet -to horseshoe Lake, from
the Engineer's Report. Ile asked, if this were put in place with a control
valv4 at that point, would we have 100'/ assurance. This would allow us
to pull the plug with everyones approval. and keep the water level down.
Larry Bohrer said there may still be times when a fast run—off will make the lake
rise.
Tom. Noyes said, we do recognize, however, that the second effluent is almost
1.00'1 certain to be topped, and that will in itself lower the wetter
quality of Sunfish. If we can prevent that; then; any -transfer of water
from Sunfish to Horseshoe would be easier, because the water quality will
not be as degraded.
Armstrong said, with your, dike in place, with Alternate 3 in place and operating
before any snowmelt, that would sufficiently reduce it so that there would.
be no danger of pollution?
Tom Noyes replied, No, it would be past the % .figure of protection, but we still have
the absorption pond that; has nutrients from the treated effluent that has
a, very good possibility of being mixed with Sunfish Lake.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETINC, OCTOBER 219 1980 _10_
Larry Bohrer noted, like a 100/ chance. That concrete pipe cannot be put in that
fast. That is wly 1981 is listed in the report. The only way to get the
water out of Sunfish Lake now is to pump it someplace.
Mary Leslie « Before previous City Council I have stated that it is visably, apparent
l when it rains that the majority of the water comes from Cimarron (that
side of the road). You can see the different levels in Sunfish Lake. You
can see it higher on Cimarron's side and lower on the side by the house,
and see it as it transfers under the driveway to the north side. I would
say that the run—off volume is greater from Cimarron than the rest of the
watershed. It would appear, from the big storms, that there are different
levels in the lake. Also, can the City Council guarantee that the main —
stem plan will be adopted or they have some other plan to relieve the con—
ditions for the people in West Lakeland and those that are concerned with
Tartan Park?
Armstrong said this is iap to the Watershed District. Now, we are trying •to explore
possibilitj!es to solve the problem. Once we solve the problem, we have to
follow that water downstream and see that there is a minimum problem there.
kbone is going to come out 100%, A balancing of the interests is necessary,
If it means 500 homes have to be closed, this is a very big interest that
may outweigh potential flooding of a few ,yards downstream, where those
people will not be forced out of their homes. The effect downstream
will have to be determined.
Mary Leslie asked is the Cimarron plant was a public or private concern. If
private is it to be maintained by the private corporation?
Armstrong replied that we are not dealing with Cimarron so much as we are dealing with
'the lake level. A lake level, the rise of which has to be taken eaxe of,
is not Cimarron's problem alone. The point is not who is going to pay for
this. One, there is a problem. We can go back ten years and say this
should have been done differently. We have to live with what people have
( done in the past. We have to decide what is best for the future and
where we are not. Cranted, maybe 10 ,years ago something could have been
done to solve this. None of us expected the water level to rise; but,
we have to ask what steps can. be taken to solve the problem. If this means
the water has to rise up in Horseshoe for awhile or that more has to go down—
stream, then we have to discuss that with the Watershed and see what can be
done along those lines. If there is another viable alternative which is
going to affect on one downstream, this is the best. Right now this does
not appear feasible. Regardless, whether Cimarron is profit makeing or
not, when it comes to assessing out the cost, the City is going to have to
look at it and decide who bonefitted and who will pay. The time factor
right now is important, too.
Mary Leslie said, I am not concerned about the cost of pumping Cimarron into
Horseshoe Lake. I am concerned about putting suspect water into a City
lake. We have to consider all the agencies involved with such action.
Jim Palmquist, 3M attorney, We have a water problem. Two weeks ago you realized
the difficulty of putting this water. into Horseshoe and downstream. Valley
Branch has confirmed the problems of going that route; so the other viable
alternative is 'looking to see if there is someplace on the Cimarron property
to store the water. Larry Boh.ere addressed this on the surface. I think
that before Valley Branch or the City consider any other alternative that
the real look ought to be what has to be constructed and what the cost
would be to put it on Cimarron's property. This is the first thing. Until
that is fully evaluated all the rest sould not be considered. It is only
if it is impossible to pump it and store it on their land that we start :
looking at other alternatives.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCT.'OBER 21, 1980 —11—
Councilman Mottaz said we are losing sight of the foremost issue, 25% of the citizens
of Lake Elmo stand a chance of ' waving to move out of their homes next
spring while we figure out how to handle excess water that does not all come
from Cimarron, And, maybe, should not be all stored at Cimarron, The
only thing we have to address right now is making sure 25°yo of Lake Elmds,
residents are not faced with this problem next spring and possibly
be faced with finding alternate housing. This is what the Council has to
consider,
Jim Palmqui.st stated they are interested in the same thing. There is no question
between people vs land downstream. People are of the utmost importance.
The question is you have to pump it someplace and the first step is to
look to Cimarron property, then downstream if that does not work.
Mottaz replied, that is provided there is enough time before freeze—up.
Jim Palmgiuist — we are not going to know the.viable solution unless we have a report
or a study done.
Councilperson Novak asked for a clarification on pumping and storage on —site.
Larry Bohrer has not estimated what it would cost to build a storage site at
Cimarron. Ile feels a storage site would have to be constructed if stored
on —site, We are up against a time .frame. We have about 30 days left before
it freezes up and pumping cannot be done. You can only transfer so much water
in 30 days. Be has not estimated the cost of all the alternatives. They
have been looked at in a, preliminary way. He still stands behind his
original recommendations and .realizes the problems downstream,
Steven Taylor — If the lake continues to come up and the facility overflows, we
would have raw sewage running into a public lake. Then, we have water that
is much more questionable as tow here you put it if ,you have to pump it.
There has been no mixing of the water from the plant or either of the
absorption ponds, to date.
Al Lehman is still concerned about the protection of the treatment plant. The
one proposal of blicking the culvert and pumping to the north side you
have about 22 acre feet in Sunfish, 8 acre feet on the south side. In
1977, in a heavy rain, the lake rose !p feet. That's 88 acre feet of excess
water, If ,you block the culvert ,you will get most of the water on the south
side. That is a 10 foot rise on the south. You could have a rain. that is
much less than in 1977; and still have problems. The gravity overflow
between the difference on Sunfish now and Horseshoe with the friction loss
in the pipe you are just barely getting flow with the present elevation
of Horseshoe. If a storm comes ,you, still do not have good protection.
The gravity pipe could only drop Sunfish 2 feet from its present elevation.
Mottaz said the basic problem can only be resolved if we can pump some water from
Sunfish to Horseshoe in the time we have. According to out Engineer this
is the only alternative we have for the amount of time available.
Larry Bohrer said water will have to be pumped at one time or another. This is the
the time of the ,year to do this with a winter season to have it seep; than
to try to pump it in the spring with run—off and everything else at maximum
elevation.
Steven Taylor said the longer ,you wait to pump the greater the risk of contamination.
Armstrong asked the Valley Branch Board their reaction, if pumping is the only solution.
Al Dornfield, Valley Branch Manager, said the feeling of the Managers is to retain
as much water as possible. We have a very small flowage leaving Horseshoe
and even that may cause problems like it did last winter when we had ice
build up in the channel which created problems all the way up the line to
the homes in West Lakeland between Horseshoe Lake and County Road 70.
We still do not have the storage capacity downstream. We are very concerned
about downstream.. We have pleanty of water coming down there already,
Armstrong asked Mr, Dornfield if we take it as a given, that unless some water is
removed there is going to be homes without sewage disposal in Cimarron,
and we weigh those factors, do you foresee a great deal of damage or
potential damage downstream if the water wereto be pumped today.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 21.9 1980 _12_
Al Dornfield replied, I guess, you would have to show us that storing water on the
north side of 70 is not practical. I also think ,you hve some storage
on the golf course by plugging some so ..m sewers. The simplist way is
pumping it downstream, no doubt; but I don't think it is the simplist
way for those downstream.
Councilman Morgan replied the Council is well aware of being downstream. Part of the
reason there is a problem is because there is not more storage sites
up —stream. 11hey have a problem up —stream from us but It is not stored.
1200 people live in Cimarron; and, they own their homes. If pumping 60A
-feet would protect those homes, I thing, we ought to look for a place
to put it.
Mr., Taylor responded to the question of storing water on the,golf course. We have
approximately 20A on the golf course. You would have to build a dike 3 ft.
high all around the golf course and fill the entire course with 3 feet of a
water. It is extremely .flat.
George hedges asked about flooding existing bonds at the back of Cimarroris property.
A resident: responded one small ponding area eould not take more than 2 ft. or
the homes would flood.
George hedges said these are the questions asked. Ilow much can be held on —site
before we start .facing the already flooded situation downstream. No
way will it be acceptable to have anyone put out of their homes.
Armstrong noted the other problem is the 30 days, How much, time do we have to study
all this. There is no time to got all feasibility reports.
Mottaz said, exploring on —site and alternate storage should be done; but aver
-the winter and. next spring when the danger is over with. He does
not think, under the present circumstances and given the time frame and
the length of time it takes to do studies, that we should. be developing
ponding areas in Cimarron now. We risk winter freeze—up then no pumping
/ can be done anywhere.
l John Leslie, 3M Club, wanted the record to show — He feels Cimarron has been very
negligent because 10 years ago exactly the same situation was brough to their
attention. It was suggested then they construct a dike and make provision
for just this situation. I think, they have been very negligent in the
last 10 years. This was brought up to them very emphatically in the Darr
Lhgin.eering report, The report said that the dike should be put at an 884
level completely around the sewage plant, in anticipation of such a
runs -off as this.
Armstrong noted this work is being done now. Since that report there have been
many changes,and circumstances the new owners may not have been aware of.
Mary Leslie asked about a storage site on the property west of Cimarron. ['here
is a natural depression there and Valley Branch has sited this as property
that would have to outlet through Sunfish. Does a drain exist there?
Dick Stockstead, property owner to the west — They have agreed to store for two
100 year floods.
Mary .Leslie said another consideration is Downs Lake which previously flowed through
Tartan Park. Downs is not suppose to flow 'through Tartan Park., It
is suppose to flow east through Lake Elmo; but in 'that outlet there have
been trees planted in the last -two years and a home constructed in close
proximity, which may be endangered if the water flows out that way. The
people on. the pond, in the middle, are already having problems with spring
run—off into the pond, with it backing up onto the drainage easement.
If it comes through Tartan Park what guarantee is there for relief to
Tartan Park. This would take out their entire golf course.
Mottaz said this is not part of this issue.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 21, 1980 -13-
Ed 'Bruno, Tartan Park, Reviewed past comments on Oakdale sending water to Lake Elmo.
Now, Lake Elmo is considering sending water downstream. This sounds
calloused and as though Lake Elmo is not concerned about West Lakeland,
Is Lake Elmo giving thought to the people in West Lakeland? Mr. Bruno
submitted a letter of concern.
Armstrong replied the Council must consider ]3 00 people and their homes. There
is concern about downstream effects. What damage will this 60A feet do?
Steven Taylor said the question goes beyond 1300 people. The water to be pumped is
not polluted now. The risk of pollution a public lake is a public concern,
Should pollution occur, what do ,you do with this water? Cimarron cannot
stop this from happening. Only the public bodies can prevent the pollution
because the lake is rising, not the sewage lagoon.
Councilman Pott noted you are talking about pumping 25 acre .fed if you pump from
south to north across County 70.
Larry Bohrer noted it would be oloser to 50 ft, considering bank sotrage.
Councilman Pott said downstream is the only answer that will have significance in
time, We axe talking about a situation that may occur next spring, The
things mentioned, south to north pumping, on -site storage sites at Cimarron,
storage west of Lake Elmo Avenue etc. all need more answers. If these
possibilities dont1t work out and we have the anticipated problem next
spring, what alternative is there except pumping downstream?
Al Bornfield asked about the type of pump and its capacity.
Engineer. Rohrer explained. He does not know if pumping could keep up with the run-
off in the spring and feels the best solution is to provide the necessary
storage this fall.
Armstrong noted the most agreeable solution would be to pump across County 70.
Engineer Bohror does not think this is a, good solution, The further away the water
is from Cimarron the less chance of recycling or seepage,
r- Maynard Eder, Valley Branch Manager, said the Board briefly discussed the possibility
of pumping the water directly to the storage area south of 10th Street,
The impact of this on West Lakeland is not known, but this is a suggestion.
This would extend the project beyond the limits of Lake Elmo.
George Hedges said the benefit is that before the next run-off you could work on the
seepage capacity of that system. You are using it when on one else needs
it during the winter. The City would need a cooperative agreement with
West Lakeland for, this,
Armstrong noted again the time element must be considered. If this is pumped into
Horseshoe and .flows downstream how may homes could potentially be damaged?
1�hat elevations would cause damage? 60A.feet over 30 days is not a torrent.
Larry Bohrer said in talking about a combination of diking and pumping, you axe
proposing lowering Sunfish Lake 3 ;/2 feet,
George Hedges noted that the suggestion of direct pumping to the West Lakeland storage
site tends to fall on`the shoulders of the Watershed. The 60.A feet of
water vs 120 A feet makes the project more palatable.
Novak asked if the Board of Managers agree that Cimarron's diking action makes the
project easier to sell, Mr. Hodges said ,yes, but noted it would help
to have assurance this is a temporary pumping project and additional
storage sites will be explored. This proposal is a one-time project.
Ile said the City has "led us right up to the door. You do everything you
can do here, the only thing left is to punp it downstream".
MOTION: Armstrong mated, seconded by Pott, to adopt R-80-619 ordering a, pumping
project to remove 60A feet of water from Little Sunfish Lake and pump it
to Horseshoe Lake; and that the proper request for permits be made to
Valley ;Branch., D.NR, and other required acencies; and easements be secured.
'Discussion:'The .Administrator will organize a committee to meet with
West Lakeland and discuss the impact of this action on them and Lake Elmo,
and assure them this is a one year temporary project after which Lake
Elmo will work on a permanent solution.
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R-80-61
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RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASHINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION ORDERING A PUMPING PROJECT TO REDUCE
THE FLOOD WATERS ON SUNFISH LAKE IN SECTION 25 AND
36 IN SAID CITY.
WHEREAS, the City Council on September 16, 1980, ordered
the City Engineer to prepare a Feasibility Report on a possible
pumping project to reduce the flood waters on Sunfish Lake
in said City; and
WHEREAS, said flood waters are presently and continue
to endanger the sewage treatment plant that serves Cimarron,
an area of 1300 homes in said City; and
WHEREAS, said City Engineer has returned said Feasibility
Report which finds that said proposed project is feasible; and
WHEREAS, a public hearing on the feasibility of said
project was held October 7, 1980, and again on October 21, 1980;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council of
the City of Lake Elmo as follows:
1. The City shall, as soon as possible, commence a
pumping project to remove approximately 60 acre feet of water
from Little Sunfish Lake to Horseshoe Lake in said City.
2. The City shall make immediate and timely request for
all necessary permits from the Valley Branch Watershed District,
the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and any other
required permits.
3. The City shall also secure the necessary easements.
4. The City Administrator is directed to organize a
committee to meet with the Town of West Lakeland to discuss the
impact of this action on the residents of West Lakeland and
Lake Elmo and to assure them this project is a one (.1) year
temporary project after which Lake Elmo will work on a permanent
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solution.
5. The City of Lake Elmo also intends to store a
minimum of sixty (60) additional acre feet on Eagle Point
Lake and to secure the necessary permission to do so.
6. The City Engineer is further instructed to determine
any possible damage that may be caused downstream as a result
of this pumping project through the Town of West Lakeland and
in the event said pumping appears to be causing problems, a
special meeting will be called between the City of Lake Elmo,
the Valley Branch Watershed District and the Town of West
Lakeland and concerned residents so that a decision can be
made at that time as to whether the pumping should be continued.
7. The City also intends to continue to explore potential
storage sights in the County Park.
Adopted this 21st day of October., 1980, by the City
Council., City of Lake Elmo, Washington County, Minnesota.
ATTEST:
Laurence Whittaker
City Administrator
Thomas G. Armstrong, Mayor
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LAKE PJ MO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOB- 210 1980
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MOTION: Jim Palmquist, 3M Attorney, officially objects to pumping to Horseshoe
Lake on the basis that Tartan Park may be damaged in some way.
Morgan said pumping should be done at a rate agreeable to Valley Branch,
and explore the possibility of storing an additional 60acre feet to 100acre
feet of water on Eagle Point.
George Hedges recommended the City h'onsider purchasing the type of pipe
that could be incorporated for use in Project 1006.
Pumping will be controlled so as to not endanger homes downstream.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Pkt, to amend the motion and add:
Th,e City will store a, minimum of 60 additional acre feet on Eagle Point
Lake and secure the necessary permission to do so; and, the Engineer
is instructed to determine any possible damage that may be caused downstream
as a result of pumping 60 acre feet through West Lakeland; and, in the evert
the pumping appears to be causing problems, a special. meeting will be
called between Lake Elmo, Valley Branch, West Lakeland and. concerned
residents; and, a decision will be made at that time to continue the
project. Storage sites in the County Park will also be explored. Amendment
earrai.ed 5-0. (Storage sites include West Lakeland, loth Street,
Cimarron, on —site, property west of County 1.79 Eagle Point Lake, and
the County PEwk. )
Motion, as amended, carried 5-0.
Pumping will commence as soon as all necessary approvals are received.
Engineer Bobrer outlined the sequence of events;
1. Obtain temporary easement from 3M Club to go across Tartan Park property —
If this cannot be secured, a request to ET. Earthmovers will be made.
2. Obtain permits from Valley Branch Watershed District and DNR.
3. Obtain a larger pump, if needed.
The Magi.neer suggested Cimarron partially block the outlets from their
ponds in the southeast corner, if a, safe level of water can be stored
without damage to homes. Cimarron indicated they would look into this.
The Council will study alternate stibnage sites beginning this winter.
Mayor Armstrong closed the hearing at 10 p.m.
PROJI T 1006 — BOARD OF MANACFRS
Valley Branch has requested a Shoreland. Permit to clean out the outlet
around the pump box on Lake Jane for Project 1005. The DNR has been
notified.
Morgan moved, seconded by Armstrong, to approve the Shoreland Permit
for Valley Branch Watershed District to allow them to clean out the outlet
around the :pump box on Lake Jane (Project 1005) Motion carried 5-0,
The Council had no further comments on the Public Water Map.
project 1006 — The Managers reported their engineer is preparing a map
with the three alternates and one variation, along with the cost estimate.
if the Main Stem Study Committee agrees to one of the alternatives, that
alternative will be the one the Managers will take to hearing. Their
next meeting will be Tuesday October 28, at 7.30 P.m.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OCTOBER 21, 1980 -15-
ANNOUNCENWTS: A County meeting with residents of Big Carnelian will be held
October 27, at 7:30 in Scandia.
October 219 1980, is City Appreciation Day,
November 2L[, 1980, Soo Line Trail Hearing at Lake Elmo Elementary School,
ADJOURNMENT: Mottaz moved, seconded by Armstrong, to adjourn at 10:30 P.M.
Motion carried 5-0.
RESOLUTIONS: 80-59 - Accepting Improvements, DeMontreville Highlands 5th & 6th. Add.
80-60 - 15th Street Vacation
80-61 - Little Sunfish/TIorseshoe Lake Pumping Project
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80757
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80762
80763
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80765
80766
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80771
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8.0._7.73_
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CLAIMS TO BE APPROVED AT NOVEMBER 5th COUNCIL MEETING
Postmaster - postage. meter
Laurence Whittaker - November Expense
George Ringwelski - Park Gate October
Lydia Richert - November garage rent
Northwestern Bell
Northern States Power
Gerald Dahlberg - October animal control
T. A. Schifsky - MC Mix
First National Bank - Park Bond Service Charge
Washington Cty.Tre.as. - 3rd & 4th 'Quarter Police
Junker Sanitation - Fall clean up days (4 dumpsters)
Washington Cty. Treas. - Copies of park plans
Minn. Fire, Inc. - fire department equipment service
Washington National Insurance Co. - Hosp.
Allied Group Insurance Trust
Minn. Benefit Ass°n
General Electric Co. - Radios per bid"fire department
Mollie Hedges - 10/28/80 newsletter
T.K.D.A. General
Legion Pond
Beutel Pond.
Little Sunfish
Park
M.S.A.
Pass Thru
Oakwood Animal Hospital
Bruce Rosenau - October Mileage
Stillwater Bakery - Election bakery
International Harvester Co, - New Fire
thru 80841 November 14th payroll
$ 247.80
491.48
270.41
1,157.20
79.93
153.63
331.72
Truck chasis
80774 thru 80824 Ballot Counters $ 667.20
Election Judges 965.90
80825 Lowell Vanderhoff - Beutel Pond T
80826 Ken Friedrich - lay pipe (2 days)
80827 Scott Sellers - Lay Pipe (2 days)
80828 Labor Relations Seminar
80829 L. Wwhittaker_ - expense for election judge
200.00
50.00
60.00
50.00
85.03
755.92
333.00
34.65
73.13
27,832.00
632.00
8.00
99.70
372.82
105.62
26.40
2,310.00
140.00
2,732.17
232.50
135.75
23.90
27,628.00
3,800.00
1,633.10
3,500.00
49.60
49.60
20.00
9.51
$ 72,982.40
CLAIMS TO BE APPROVED AT OCTOBER 21, 1980 COUNCIL MEETING
80714
I.C..B.O. - Bldg, Inspector's Book
$
5.00
80715
Capitol Electronics, Inc. - Fire Dept -radio repair
50.05
80716
Minn. Fire, Inc. - Fire Dep't - 2 coats
270.45
80717
Lake Elmo Hardwood Lbr. - fire Dept
7.93
80718
Copy Duplicating Products - .Maint. Agreement
260.00
80719
C & H Oil Company - bulk oil
97.20
80720
James Steele Construction - Maint. Bldg, 2nd pmt.
38,329.20
80721
Soil Exploration Co. - Legion Pond Drilling
2,525.70
80722
Isberg, Riesenberg, Chelseth - Planning
510.00
80723
Tomahawk Live Trap Co. - 1 cat & 2 dog
255.02
80724
Mollie Hedges - 10/14/80 newsletter
140.00
80725
Kern's North Star
279.11
80726
Meyer Mercantile - Fire Department 102,08
Gen'l Maint, 41.50
143.58
80727
Bahls Motor & Implement - Maint. Parts
31.48
80728
Walter S. Booth & Sons - election supplies
5.98
80729
Stillwater Book & Stationery - office supplies
67.06
80730
Minn. Toro, Inc. - Mower Blades
50.06
80731
Ben's Elmo Inn. - Council & Park
91.81
80732
Zignego Agency, Inc. - Park Shelter insurance
20.00
80733
Oakwood Animal Hospital - animal control
94.50
80734
Moelter Construction Co. - Gravel
58,48
'10735
David A. Kirscht & .Assoc. - Park Plan Mylars
2.2.00
,0736
T. A. Schifsky & Sons - Gravel 580,30
MC Mix 33«33
613.63
80737
R. H. Stafford, Wash. Cty Treas, - M( S Assessment
459.12
80738
Suburban Superintendents - Water School
5.00
807YI
thru 807P October. 31st payroll
3,800.00
70
48,19`2.336
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