HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-18-80 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1980
Mayor Armstrong called the meeting to order at 5 p.m.
Councillors in attendance: Morgan, Novak, Mottaz and Pott (5:35)
AGENDA: Additions - Satellite bids and Surface Water Storaae - Regional
Park.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Novak, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried 4-0.
MINUTES: October 29, 1980 - Novak moved, seconded by Morgan to approve the
minutes of October 29, 1980. Motion carried 4-0.
November 5, 1980 - Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, to approve the
minutes of November 5, 1980, as amended. Amendment - Vote on
Certification of Elected Officials - 4-0-1. Mora_an abstained.
Motion carried 4-0.
COLLYARD LAWSUIT: The Council reviewed a letter from Mr. Clinton Mc.Lagan
Attorney for Dan Collyard. The Council instructed the Administrator
to send a reply to Mr. McLagan stating the City Council did not request
Mr. Collyard attend the November. 5, 1.980, City Council meeting; but
that he (Mr. Collyard) requested a response from the Council. The
Council is bound to hear all inquiries from the public.
CLAIMS: Mottaz moved, seconded by Morgan, to authorize the Administrator
to hire any necessary temporary empi0yees to finish the remaining
work on the Sunfish I:ake Pumping Project. Motion carried 4-0.
The Administrator reported that Bob Wier was asked to.take a medical
leave of absence. He recommended hiring a temporary emplovee over
the winter, when, needed, or until Mr. Wier returns. The Council
agreed and requested the Administrator keep the Council informed
about Mr. Wier.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to approve Claims 80842 thru 80877.
Motion carried 5-0.
SPECIAL MEETING: Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to set November 24,.
1980, as a Special City Council meeting and meet jointly with the
Planning Commission. Motion carried 5,�,0.
PARK ISSUES: 1. Shelter Hours - Morgan will ,have the Park Commission
recommendation on 5fielter-Rours ready by Thursday.
2. Shelter Worker - The Administrator recommended advertising for a
Park Shelter Attendant. Morgan agreed and will discuss this suggestion
with the Park Commission.
3. shelter Mats - The Building Inspector reported the price of
rubber skating mats is prohibitive. He recommended using roofing felt.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan, to authorize $25 for roofing ;Felt
for use as- `_skating mats. Motion, carried 5-0.
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PARK ISSUES: 4. Park\Batellites - The Administrator presented the quotes
received for sa£eXEes in Sunfish Park.
Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, to accept the quote of Salenite
Industries to provide two satellites at $65 per month, plus an initial
$25 service charge. The satellites will be placed in Sunfish Park
after the first 4" snowfall and removed March 15 or at the end of
the ski season, whichever comes first.
5. Goals and Policies - Morgan suggested that the Park Commission
recommend goats and -policies for Council review. The Council agreed.
These will be discussed at the November Special Council meeting.
The Council discussed acquisition of additional property around Sunfish
Lake, offered by Mr. Beaubien. The Council would like to get the
Watershed involved in acquiring this property, since it is used as
a storage area by Valley Branch. Morgan suggested using Lawcon money
to purchase the property. The Administrator will contact Mr. Beaubien
and convey the City's interest in the parcel.
6. Hockey Boards - Novak suggested the City consider acquiring hockey
boards for_Laons Park. Morgan will submit .this suggestion to the
Park Commission.
The Administrator will make arrangements for a joint Planning/Park
Commission meeting.
ARTsSCHAEFER - COUNTY COMMISSIONER: The Council expresses their concerns
on Youth Service Bureaus and their funding. Schaefdr;agreed that
the County should fund the entire program. He suggested.that the -.City
write the County Board stating their concerns and recommendations.
The Council, again, stated its opposition to the proposed north
entrance to the Regional Park and requested Mr. Schfer continue to
keep the County Board aware of the City's position.
Police and Fire Protection in the Park - Police and fire calls to the
Regional Park are increasing. The Council feels the County should
help pay for these additional fire runs and the police calls.
Morgan proposed the County assign a deputy to the Regional Park, as
these additional calls are taking protection time away from the
regular patrol of the City.
Schaefer suggested the City prepare a policy agreement with the
County for fire and police services,,-possibly.on a'per-call basis.
Boat Launch - The Council.reitterated its position for a carry-over
boat launch and its desire for a pedestrain entrance from the Old
Village.
Pott moved, seconded by Morgan, to instruct the Administrator to
write Washington County requesting their continued support of the
the City's position on the previously discussed park issues,
including Fire and Police protection. Motion carried 5-0.
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ART SCHAEFER: The Council discussed finding a Lake Elmo representative
to replace Maynard Eder on the Watershed Board. Recommendations will
be discussed at the December 2 Council meeting.
Mr. Schaefer asked the Council to install a street light in Tablyn Park
2nd Addition. The City is currently completing this project.
DINNER BREAK - TARTAN PARK
EISLIE HEARING - LOT 4, BLOCK 1, RUTH`S FIRST ADDITION:
The Eislie's are requesting a variance from the Shoreland Ordinance
set -back to add a den to their home. The addition will not interfere
with their drainfield; no addional water will be added to the drainfield;
and the addition will b,e no closer to the water than the present
structure. The City Attorney and Building Inspector recommended
approval, stating the addition will not cause additional problems on
this lot.
Pott moved, seconded by Morgan, to approve ,.&. Shoreland Variance for
John Eislie to add den within 100ft of the shoreline. Motion carried
4-0-1. Novak abstained. Novak questions the hardship for this
variance. She would also like the Administrator to verify the conditions
of the development agreement relating to the use of Lot 5 or 6 as
additional drainfield area.
LICENSES: Morgan moved, seconded by Mottaz, to approve the following
licenses: Bruhn Excavating, Sewer Installer, 169 Belvidere, St Paul;
Minnesota Tritec, Inc., Heating Installer, Rt. 3. Box 524, Delano, Mn
and Joseph Chuis, 15975 Putman Blvd. Afton, Mn. Motion carried 5-0.
SNOWPLOWING BIDS: The Council reviewed the bids.
Morgan moved, seconded by Armstrong, to accept the low bid, for snow
plowing from Bernard Meyer, at a rate of $35 per hour, provided this
hourly rate is comparable with surrounding communities. Motion
carried 5-0. The Administrator will determine if this bid is
acceptable or if it should be rebid.
JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION: The Council agreed to hold a
Special City Council meeting, November 24, 1980, at 7:30 p.m. in
conjunction with the Planning Commission meeting.
Open House Dedications The Administrator asked the Council if they
were interested in a dedication ceremony for; the Park Shelter and/or
the Maintenance Building. The Council directed the Administrator to
set a date for Council consideration. The Administrator will also
determine the date of the City Christmas Party.
PUBLIC INQUIRY: Robert Jungmann - 5460 Highlands Trail - In staking the
walkway to DeMontreville Park and based on the present survey lines,
it was determined that Mr. Jungmann's driveway is on City right-of-way.
The Council feels this matter should be resolved between Mr. Jungmann
and Derrick Land, the adjacent property owner.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, to delay further work on the walking
trail into Demontreville Park until it is reconsidered by the City
Council, no later than July 15, 1981. Discussion:
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JUNGMANN: Pott suggested looking for an alternate site for the access
point. Morgan said this was the only easement offered by Derrick,
that was acceptable. Morgan said the Park Commission feels an access
should be available from the development for resident use; but, are
flexible on the location. Armstrong indicated this is a legal
problem between Derrick Land and Mr. Jungmann{ and, the City is not
and should not be involved. The City has two warranty deeds for the
walkway parcel. The Administrator will write Jungmann and Derrick
and request they resolve this problem. Brian Crombie, representing
Derrick Land, feels this is a City problem since the Jungmann house
was built too close to the property line. The responsibility of
surveying the lot is up to the property owner, not Derrick Land,
and this discrepancy should have been noted at the time of the footing
inspection. Mr. John Gertin, attorney for Jungmanns', stated that, if
the trail is completed,as proposed, it minimizes resolving the problem,
therefore, they are in favor of the decision to wait until July, so a
solution can be worked out between Jungmann and Derrick. The Council
discussed other locations for the walkway.
Motion carried 5-0.
Morgan will advise the Park Commission of the alternate walkway
suggestions and give their recommendation to the Administrator.
HARDY'S DRIVEWAY: Mottaz moved, seconded by Morga, to abandon the project
to clear the channel through Hardy's driveway as it has been determined
that the driveway is not the major cause of flooding either up stream
or downstream. Motion carried 5-0.
STEPHEN TAYLOR - CIMARRON/SUNFISH PUMPING: Mr. Taylor requested that the
Council consider continuing the Little Sunfish Pumping Project. He
feels additional pumping may be necessary in the future. Since all
the equipment is in place and storage is available- and the largest
portion of the cost is fixed or paid for, it would be of benefit to
pump an additional three to four days and possibly eliminate the need
to pump next year
Armstrong explained that politically and legally this proposal is
not feasible. The Engineer reported the pumping is nearly complete,
with Little Sunfish being 2 1/2 feet lower. The Council's position
is that enough additional storage and ponding areas can be developed
before the 1982 run-off that no additional pumping will be necessary.
Therefore, they oppose continued pumping.
ENGINEERS REPORT: A. Hubenette's Culvert - The Engineer met with Mr.
Hubenette and reviewed the problem, '' e Engineer reported that the
culvert is not adjacent to the Hubenette property, but causes flooding
to their property during the spring run-off when the culvert is frozen.
The :estimated cost for a culvert that could be thawed out is $750 to
$1,000.
This situation was caused when Hill Trail N. was rebuilt and raised
in 1965, creating a type of dam. The culvert was not raised with the
/ road. Mr. Hubenette is requesting relief by installation of a new
culvert at a higher elevation so that the culvert can be kept open
when flooding occurs.,. Estimates to fill his yard were $5,000.
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HUBENETTE CULVERT: Morgan suggested altering the present culvert to
provide access from the top and install a pipe for thawing. Mottaz
feels the City is responsible for this situation; and recommended the
Engineer pursue Morgan's suggestion. The Engineer will see if the
Maintenance Foreman can devise this type of pipe. He will also see
if the culvert needs cleaning out. The Engineer will keep Mr. Hubenette
informed on the culvert. Pott recommended pumping be considered as
a solution next spring.
B. 39th St. N. & County 13 - Water Problems - The City Office received
a question aT�out a drainage pro�leiiI H area. The Engineer looked
at it and determined it was a localized problem. He gave the property
owners several recommendations to protect themselves from damage.
The water flows from the west side of County 13., This has been a
waterway since before the home was built. He informed the property
owner this is not a City caused problem but would contact the County
about the flooding.
C. Regional Park Water Storage Site - The Engineer met with the County
and reported teat they wi116 considsr permitting a dam to store additional
water on Eagle Point Lake provided the storage area is lowered every
other year to permit wild life vegetation growth. The City is looking for
permanent storage sites; whereas, the County is considering more
temporary sites. The Council agreed every effort should be made to
encourage Valley Branch involvement in acquiring and developing
storage sites.
OLD BUSINESS: A. Ag Preserves - Mottaz moved, seconded by Pott, to certify
all qualifying properties. Motion carried 5-0.
The Administrator will send a notice to all residents who qualify for
Ag Preserve designation.
B. Agreements with Mahtomedi and Bruce Rosenau - Code Enforcement Officer
Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, to approve the new contract
between Lake Elmo and Mahtomedi for the Code Enforcement Officer.
Motion carried 5-0. Armstrong moved, seconded by Mottaz, to approve
the contract between Bruce Rosenau and the City of Lake Elmo. Motion
carried 5-0.
C. Administrator's Contract - The Administrator will draft a contract
for Councilconsidartiaon t the December 2, 1980, meeting.
D. Lake Access Surface Water Use - The Administrator asked the Council
if they had any other comments on the outcome of the public meeting
on Surface Water Use. The Surface Water Use Ordinance changes will
include: hours for water skiing; definition of "No Wake" areas, with
posting of these areas, posting areas of public access, posting No
Parking and No Public Access" areas, definition of "channel", posting
signs stating "No littering in or on the lake or the lakeshore", and
a provision prohibiting any act that is injurious to the public health,
safety or welfare. The Administrator will check with DNR to see if
the City can restrict the access hours. He will also list the services
the DNR should provide along with their public access, such as sate]Aites
in the summer, garbage collection, patrol of the accesses, posting of
safe/clear zones for skiing and/or boating, and year -around maintenance
of the access. The Administrator will research working that will
prohibit placing buoys below the water surface.
The Administrator will redraft this Ordinance and included these changes
for Council review.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1980
SURFACE WATER USE: The Administrator will draft a "No Parking Ordinance"
listing all "No Parking" areas in the City.
l COUNCIL REPORTS: A. Energy Program - The Building Inspector outlined
in t the City's energy needs e Ca' iptital Improvement recommendations
for City Buildings.
Armstrong moved, seconded by Morgan,
the Fire Hall. Motion carried 5-0.
Morgan reported he is still pursuing
at the landfill.
to get new quotes for insulating
the use of methane gas as a fuel
B. Office Remodeling - Mottaz reported that it is almost a certainty
that fZRe Elmo -'will its Revenue Sharing, and recommended the
Council proceed with remodeling plans for the City Office.
Mottaz moved, seconded by Armstrong, to continue work on developing
plans to nemodel the City Office, pursue;thecinbrthl,en:trAncerjidea,;and
authorize the Building Inspector to get.on opinion I on. -resolving the
roof drainage problem. Cost of such opinion not to exceed $100.
Discussion:
The Council discussed the north entrance, storage space in the Office
Building, and vehicle storage in the building. The City Council will
review the final draft. Motion carried 5-0. The plan should be
ready for Council review by December 16, 1980.
C. Dinner Meeting - Mottaz suggested the 5 p.m. dinner meeting be
changed to 6:30 and dispense with the dinner hour. This will be discussed
with the new Council members.
ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
A. Wood Cutting in City Parks - Morgan suggested putting an item in
the Newsletter stating- there is no wood cutting or removing of wood
from City Parks. The Council agreed.
B. Well Testing - The wells around the landfill are being monitored
for pollution. Morgan has been in contact with the PCA and reported they
c have a good program to monitor ground water.
C. Lake Olson and Demontreville Lowering - Valley Branch has contacted
the DNR request ng permission on to draw down Demontreville and Olson lakes.
by one foot. Nor Shoreland Permit is required. The water will be
pumped to the City park. The Council discussed flooding of the
ski trails in Sunfish Park. Morgan said the Park Commission will
meet; and, then, contact Valley Branch on their recommendation. He
also reported on his conversation with George Hedges about discontinuing
pumping when it interferes with the recreational use of Sunfish Park.
Mottaz suggested the City pursue the bridging of ski trails in Sunfish
Park by Valley Branch. The Council agreed.
Morgan expressed concern about continued use of Sunfish Park as a
storage site by Valley Branchi with no other sites being explored.
Morgan equated the importance Vallev Branch put on th:e:'.City-And.Cimarron
to find alternate storage areas for the Little Sunfish project, but
have not followed this policy themselves concerning Sunfish Lake. The
Council agreed Valley Branch should "practice what they preach" and
make every effort to find available sotrage areas throughout the water-
shed.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, NOVEMBER 18, 1980
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SHADE TREE PROGRAM: Armstrong moved, seconded by Pott, to have no
Shade Tree Program in 1981. Motion carried 5-0.
PLANNER: The Council reviewed the,Plannei"s memo stating he has changed
partnership in his,firm and requests that the Council confirm the
existing contract and continue with the new firm. The only change
is that Eisberg is no longer with the company.
Mottaz moved, seconded by Morgan, to confirm the service agreement with
Rob Chelseth as City Planner. Motion carried 5-0.
COUNTY PARK COMMITTEE: The County and Met Council will meet Thursday,
November 20, 1980, at 7:30 p.m. to discuss the Lake Elmo Regional Park
plan. Mayor Armstrong and Councillor Morgan will attend the meeting.
MEETING EXTENSION: Pott moved, seconded by Novak to extend the meeting
15 minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
SOLID WASTE ABATEMENT: The Administrator explained the Met Council's
Solid Waste Abatement Report. The Council asked the Administrator
to keep them informed of ordinances relating to solid waste -,,disposal
and the requirements.
ADJOURNMENT: Mottaz moved, seconded by Morgan, to adjourn at 11:00 p.m.
Motion carried 5-0.
CLAIMS TO BE APPROVED AT NOVEMBER 18, 1980 COUNCIL MEETING
80842
State Treasurer — Soc.Sec. for October
$ 1,744.74
80843
State Bank of Lake Elmo -- Oct. Fed. wh.
2,040.10
80844
Commissioner of Revenue — Oct. State wh.
908.30
80845
Tien Friedrich — Little Sunfish — Labor
24.80
80846
" It
49.6o
801y"j
Lillie Suburban Newspapers — Legal publications
210.22
80848
Stillwater Book & Stationery — Office Supplies
106.7o
80849
Moelter Construction Co. — Beutel's Pond
47.73
80850
Kern's North Star
147.66
80851
G. A. Meyer — General 44.12
Park 17.42
Fire Dep't 78.77
140.31
80852
Ken Friedrich — Little Sunfish — Labor
17.05
80853
Farm Service Store -- Misc. Parts
10.95
80854
Lawson, Raleigh & Marshall General 284.40
Park 405.00
Little Sunfish688.00
1,377.40
80855
David A. Kirscht & Assoc. — Park Mylars
22.00
80856
Oxygen Service Co., Inc. — Fire Department
76.20
80857
Lake Elmo Oil, Inc. — General 231.22
Fire Dep't 164.14
395.36
80858
The Croixside Press -- Election Ballots
179.20
80859
Walter S. Booth & Son — Election supplies
5.53
80860
Paper Ca_lmenson & Co. — Plow parts & Blades
1,006.71
80861
Kathleen Crombie — Planning Secretary
25.00
80862
Eckberg, Lammers, Briggs & Wolff — Collyard court
175.00
80863
American Water Works Ass'n — Dues
43.00
80864
Viking Steel Products — Culverts; Little Sunfish
599.40
80865
Armco, Inc. — Little Sunfish
648.00
80866 thru 80877 — November 28th payroll 3,900.00
$ 13,9oo.96