HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-02-82 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982
Mayor Eder called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.
Councillors present: Fraser, Mottaz, Morgan and Novak. Also,
Administrator Whittaker.
1. AGENDA:
Additions - 10. Engineer's Update on Landfill Siting; 12. Mottaz -
Council Report; 13.F. Sale of old table in Fire Hall; 13.G. Lease
of old City Office building; 13.H. Business Communication Seminar.
M/S/P Morgan/Novak to accept the agenda, as amended.
2. MINUTES - FEBRUARY 16, 1982:
Correction of correction in February 16, minutes -
° Item 4. No Council action was neeeasary taken.
M/S/P Morgan/Mottaz to approve the minutes of February 16, as
amended.
3. CLAIMS:
M/S/P Morgan/Novak to approve Claims 82237 thru 82283.
4. LICENSES:
M/S/P Morgan/Novak to approve a license for two outdoor Coin
operated machines at Kunz oil, Roy Menne, 11985 Stillwater Blvd.
5. FIRE CHIEF KUETTNER:
A. Radio Room Block;;Woik-
Kuettner requested Council authorization to expend $570 for block -
work to construct a radio room in the Fire Department. David
Bjurnstrom, a local contractor, bid the job. This will be a
sound proof room located next to the mens bathroom (old kitchen)
The firemen will put in the acoustical ceiling, door and a bay
window. $2100 is budgeted for this project.
--Novak — recommended that the Building Inspector look at the
proposal to see if additional work can be incorporated with the
project.
--Eder - relocation or improvement of the bathroom facilities
might be considered at this time. Look at the floor area in the
mens facility.
M/S/P Morgan/Mottaz to authorize the requested radio room work
including $570 for blockwork, conditioned upon inspection by the
Building Inspector and that additional minor improvements to the
area be incorporated with the project, per the Building Inspectors
recommendation. *See Mottaz recommendation under Item 12.
B. Fire Department 25th Anniversary -
Chief Buettner outlined tenative ideas the department had for
acknowledging the department's 25th Anniversary.
1. May 23, 1982 is the anniversary date. The department would
like to hold an open house on Saturday May 22. Retired
members would be invited to jointhe'department `and -the"Council
in a commerative celebration in the evening.
2. The department would like to have 1 or 2 Council members
work with them on organizing the event.
Mayor Eder appointed Jess Mottaz and Jean Novak to work with the,
Fire Department on planning the anniversary celebration. A progress
report will be ready by the April 6 Council meeting.
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6. CANDIDATES FOR PLANNING AND PARK COMMISSION VACANCIES:
A. Planning Commission Alternate -
The Council reviewed the application of William Peterson, 2778 Legion.
Mr. Peterson confirmed his desire to serve on the Planning Com-
mission and answered questions of the Council about his interest
in the City and how he felt he could serve the City by actively
participating on the Planning Commission. Mr. Peterson has been
a resident of Lake Elmo for four years; and was the only
applicant for the Planning Commission position.
M/S/P Morgan/Fraser to appoint William Peterson as lst Alternate
to the Planning Commission to serve until a vacancy occurs or until
December 31, 1984, whichever comes first.
B. Park Commission - Vacancy and Alternates -
Three residents applied for -the Par'�C 'Commission positions,
Charles Clausen, 63 Cimarron, Nancy Hansen, 8024 Hill Tr, and
Arlyn Christ, 8928 36th St. N. Mr. Clausen was the only applicant
available for interview at this meeting. Mrs. Hansen and Mr:: Christ
will be available on March 16. Mr. Christ would like to be
considered for the alternate position only.
The Council reviewed Mr. Clausen's application and directed
questions to his position on vandalism, past experience involving
parks and his interest in preserving open space and natural
resources. Mr. Clausen has been a resident of Lake Elmo for 3 1/2 yr.
In fairness to the other two applicants,the Council decided to
delay making any appointments.
M/S/P Mottaz/Novak to table any decision on Park Commission
appointments until all the applicants are interviewed.
7. PUBLIC INQUIRIES:
None
8. CUP - CIMARRON GOLF COURSE:
The Council reviewed Cimarron's response, as outlined in the
Administrator's memo of February 24, 1982.
--Mottaz - asked Mike Ahrens about the response,the Council requested,
from their insurance company on add.ttional coverage that could
be passed on through the green fees.
--Ahrens - after talking to their insurance agent, they determined
it would be more financially feasible for Cimarron to share the
deductable amount of the homeowners costs on a 50/50 basis.
--Fraser - finds Cimarron's response, as outlined in the memo,
completely unacceptable. Two issues - noise - memo indicates
Cimarron is going to inquire about improving - this is taking
too long to do too little. Other issue - insurance,- responsibility
indicated in Cimarron's letter is completely unacceptable - would
p.reter,)to change concept to the wording that came from the City
Attorney's office„(per Fraser's request), that being,that Cimarron
shall be responsible for any damage to persons, passing vehicles
or adjacent buildings as a result of activities on the golf course.
This is the wording that should be in the CUP,
--Mottaz - agrees with Fraser - not satisified with what Cimarron
is committing (in their .letterl PCA standards is not the question -
not the loudness of the noise, but the nuisance £actor of the noise.
Nuisance factor is not established by State or Federal standards -
nuisance factor is something determined by the local unit of government.
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8. CIMARRON CUP - CONTINUED:
--Mottaz - Would like.to see figures on increased liability costs,
--Ahrens - Cimarron would not like to communicate in writing
to the City the plan the Council Aas proposed for sound and
the level, of responsibility. If this is what the City wants
written in the Permit, in order to grant it, this is what they
will live with. Cimarron''s position is that they cannot say
that they are liable - insurance company says they are not -
however, they have said they can do this sort of thing if it is
requested as a condition of the Permit.
--Fraser - could you not come back to the Administrator with the
steps taken on the muffler question.
--Ahrens - Cimarron would like to be allowed to have a piece of
equipment out on the grass area prior to the time indicated in
the Ordinance (7 - 7:30 a.m.), with muffling.
--Mottaz - you are telling us to write up what we are demanding
and then you are going to have to do something to live with it.
--Ahrens - have met with the Council -both sides¢ -stated and under-
stood. This is a permit they would like granted. If you feel
that there are conditions to it - specifically noise and insurance this is what they will abide by.
In response to Mottaz's question on providing insurance figures -
Does not believe Cimarron would have insurance coverage for the
plan, as suggested here, they would not use insurance coverage -
would self insure..
MIS Fraser/Mottaz that the Conditional Use Permit for. Cimarron
Golf. Course be drafted with the following conditions:
1. Cimarron be responsible for any -damage to passing persons,
vehicles or adjacent buildings as a result of activities
on the golf course.
2. No mowing will be done within 1000 ft of residences before
7 a.m. on weekdays and 8 a.m, on Saturday and Sunday.
Discussion:
--Fraser. - not tied into 1000 ft. - just wants something specific
for discussion.
--Novak - disagrees Cimarron should take total responsibity. Golfers
have to take some responsibility.
--Mottaz - difficult to police golfers who do damage. Only way
homeowner can be protected is if the golfer pays a certain amount
towards his liability each time he _golfs.
Resident Comments:
Don Moe - Agrees with Fraser and Mottaz on liability. Concerned
on the noise nuisance factor. People work and do not want to be
awakened at 5 a.m. in the morning. Cimarron is proposing to
continue as they have in the past - mow when they want to. Would
like to see the Ordinance requirement adhered to.
--Tom Guindon - has researched the insurance question. Surveyed
the majority of golf courses in the Metropolitan area on how they
handle this question. Three major courses indicated that their
insurance picked up the cost. By Cimarron requesting the City to
give them a letter stating they have to pay 1/2 the homeowners
deductible, thb(aVomeowners will have to turn in a claim each time
there is damage, thereby, riskinq cancellation because of too many
claims. Cimarron is coming out ahead by this action vs the
homeowner who will face problems with their insurer. Opposes this
idea.
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9. MSA CONTINUED:
--Bohrer-in response to Mr. Slawsons question on future assessments
for improvements to 45th, Julep and 47th Streets,- in order to
assess the residents on Keats the City would have to show benefit.
Keats would not be considered a benefitted area for this project,
as that area was not considered a benefitted area for the Keats project.
M/S/P Mottaz/Morgan to adopt the assessment -policy outlined in
the City Engineer's memo of February 25 to assess the ineligible
costs for the Keats Avenue project, only, to all parcels which abut
the improvement on a per driveway charge, based on present zoning.
Parcels with more than one driveway charge to have the option of
deferred payment with interest added.
M/S/ Morgan/Mottaz ordering MSA Project 1, the improvement of
Keats Avenue, only, and instructing the City Engineer to make every
effort to minimize the cost and impact on the residents along Keats
Avenue, and take every consideration to save trees and other natural
amenities.
Discussion:
--Eder -a dilemma with engineering standards; but the cost of graveling
the road with Class 5 gravel is $5,000 more than the entire cost being
assessed, not including grading or oiling. Key to development pres-
sure lies with the property owners deciding to keep the land ag
rather than the paving of the road. Speed is a concern - enforcement
will have to be initiated once the limit is set - this should help.
--Novak - did not find the project feasible at $1,000,$2,000 or $3,000
assessment per driveway or lot - $783 per lot is a burden, but feels
this lesser amount avoids the selling of land to pay the cost of
improvement. Speed is a problem whether the road is paved or unpaved.
City will have to have the deputy patrol or monitor this area very
closely. The one step at a time approach will help to avoid this
becoming a big open tunnel way - still will not be the easiest way
to get to Hwy 36.
--Council discussed load limits with the audience.
--Eder - favors the project - declared his father owns property that
abuts this road - he has no interest in land along Keats.
Motion carried 5-0.
10. STREET LIGHT STANDARDS:
The Council reviewed the revised Street Light Policy, as recommended
by the Planning Commission. The policy provides a standard for
the fixtures and the installation of street lights, as prepared by
the City Engineer. The policy leaves the requirement for street
lights up to the discretion of the City Engineer..
The Council decided to delete #3 - reference to population density.
M/S/P Morgan/Eder to adopt the revised Street Light Policy, deleting
reference to population density, per the recommendation of the Planning
Commission.
10A. LANDFILL SITING PROCESS:
Engineer Bohrer updated the Council on the landfill siting process,
as it affects the City.
CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982
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9. MSA PROJECT - CONTINUED;
--Steve Raleigh - have you ever considered a compromise between
kbeping the road on the section line and moving it to the present
location - the present location being 15' off of center between
Crocker's and Raleigh's -
--Bohrer - less than 15' about 5-6' Engineer and Mr. Raleigh
reviewed the map..
--Eleanor Raleigh - how much money will be paid to the people
on the west side of the road and how much will it cost to fill
in the 30' drop on the Raleigh property.
--Eder - explained that if it goes to the north it is the slopes
and the problem that the road is flat - not many feet - but takes
much more dirt.
--Fraser - would like to pursue the ,b-uaiding up 'and, restoring
possibility-.
--Bohrer - possibility fo�`both Raleigh and Crocker. In Raleigh
case to flatten it out and make more useable would take out more
trees. Made it as ;,narrow as possible to avoid this.
--Mottaz - should consider the cost of transplanting ornamental
trees. Try and work something out with the Crockers. Understands
they would gain more by having the fill and redepositing their
top soil then they would by moving the line. Still would be some
slope if the line were moved.
--Bohrer - concurred - in front of the deepest ravine in front
of the Raleigh property the present in place road is just 5' off.
The most that would be gained would be 5'-there still has to be
a slope. Could make a new garden spot on the Crocker property, -
before making a commitment would have to look at it again.
--Mottaz - should go as far as possible with economic restraints
to minimize the impact on these individual cases. Would like
to see some plan worked out.
--Bohrer - excess material will be available - if a property owner
could use this and it could be deposited reasonably - it is
available. Regarding the trees mentioned - planting of trees would
be eligible for State Aid reimbursement. However the City does not
have any more money so any planting done under the program would
just go back into the non -funded costs and reflect back in the
assessments. Have suggested that the City get into some type
of a seedling program where trees could be made available at a
minimal cost.
--Steve Raleigh — understands that th.e.difference between leaving
the road where it is and putting the road on the section line is
5'. (Bohrer - in this particular area in front of Raleigh's',& Crockers)
Disputes the costs of acquiring this property.
--Bohrer - shifting the 5' will not eliminate the need to get
easments from Mrs. Raleigh.
--Raleigh - point is aimed at saving a large oak tree that is in
the 5' temporary easement area and will be covered by the 2 to 1
slope. Asking that the easement could be somehow shifted in order
to save this tree.
--Mottaz - this could be a consideration along with the Crocker
garden. Larry Bohrrer will look at this.
--Whittaker - explained City policy concerning deferred assessments,
which provides for assessments to be deferred on all but the
driveway currently being used. The entire assessment could be
paid now or defer payment until the property was subdivided.
It would be at the option of the Council that an interest clause
would be added to the deferred payment.
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9. MSA PROJECT - CONTINUED:
--Herb Crocker
Keats Avenue - Commented on the need and cost per vehicle
use on the road. Traffic count indicates 200 cars per day, or
73,000 cars per year - with the $304,000 construction cost this
would mean each car is paying the equivalent of 20fi toll per car
per trip. On a gravel road this amount would be 1.3@, including
maintenance costs. This project is an extravagance we cannot
afford. Agrees with Mr. Slawson that this is the kind of thing
we should not be talking about. Is going to lose his garden, and
there is little area elsewhere on the property to relocate it.
Forcing development in an agriculture area. Trying to keep green
acres.
--Ed Stevens. - everyone assumes no matter what the location of the
road it has to be straight. Over the years have determined it is
better to put curves in highway, developments have curved roads.
Engineer's drawing for ah..alternative alignment of 45th Street
had a substantial curve. If the road has to be built - agrees
there is no need to upgrade Keats -, why not do at the minimum
cost level and put a few gentle bends in it. The road could
then slightly avoid the areas where there is a steep drop thdt
requires alot of fill and avoid areas with high rises that require
extensive excavation. Costs could be reduced and objections might
be reduced. Times have changed and should considers" doing things
with "the minimum amount of expenditure and minimum amount of
expenditure of energy.
--Bohrer - this design is based on minimum cost. No problem putting
curves in as long as it is done properly and based on sound
engineering principles. To avoid one area have to gradually
move the road over and this may encroach on another area that
presently the road is not meandered upon. Brought up interesting
point that gasoline and fuel is often an overlooked cost in
construction. This road has excess excavation on it - there will
be a surplus of material when completed. This can either be disposed
of on site and thereby reduce the costs or can be completely hauled
off the site, this is considerably larger expense. All these
factors were taken into account - firmly believe this design, with
the guidelines we must work under, is the most cost effective design.
In this case,the general statement is not made that a straight road
is cheaper than a curved road. In this case, a straight road is
the most cost effective.
--Ed Stevens - Personally-doubts.this fact.
--Mrs. Crocker - concerned about their garden. Assuming the road
goes through, how far will it come into the garden and at what degree.
--Bohrer - the stakes that were placed were based upon the road
following the section line. This is the worst case and approximate
limit of the slope.
--Mrs. Crocker - if the road is built here, it will be at such an
angle that only a very small area of the garden can be used. This
will deprive them of a garden they have had for many years. There
is no other place in the.yard to put the garden. Compensation
would not cover the loss.'-
--Eder - suggested using surplus material to raise the garden and
/ change the slope,
--Bohrer - this could be done. Would be very happy to have someone
take additional fill. This design was based, per Council instruction,
on keeping the road as narrow as possible. Would be agreeable to
do something in an individual case.
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9. MSA PROJECT - CONTINUED:
--Bohrer - would be more costly because it would necessary to
purchase 30 ft. on the west side vs filling 15 ft on the east.
He explained all the property owners were offered the same rate
of compensation. The compensation for the land has not been
the determining factor whether to agree to an easement.
--Eleanor Raleigh - asked what will happen to the Maple trees that
are within the staked area.
--Bohrer - stakes indicate the limit of the easement to be purchased.
If right on the line, chance they could be saved.
--Eleanor Raleigh - upset about the destruction of the wooded area.
Going to have a freeway, speeds up to 55 mph, traffic will increase
because all the people from Lake Jane will use this road. Thinks
this road is being built for the people in that direction.
--Bohrer - have never heard from anyone, one way or the other,
other than the residents who live on the road.
--Lyle Slawson
5550 Keats Avenue - times different now - Federal Government is
busted, State of Minnesota is busted and we're taking and using
an MSA funding to put a burden on a select few people for a high-
way. Seems when you make a highway, and benefit the township
that the costs should be spread over the entire City. Oppose6
the road - destroying the rural atmosphere. Sees no benefit to
the residents who are living on this road - except for a select
few people. Farmers are not getting any benefit. Farmers are
the ones who have saved this land and kept it the way it is now,
not the people who moved out and bought 5 acres 2-3 years ago.
Destroying the farm area a little at a:.tme. Does not feel it
is right to put a burden on a select few people. Presently five
small farms on this road today and have kept it farm land. If
a developer got it it would be 'all houses, if a big farmer got
it, everything would have been cleared off and plowed every bit
of ground and loaded it with pesticides. Once you drive the
small farmers out there isn't another small farmer who will come
in, could not afford it - will be a land company or a large farmer.
Neither one is interested in that land. Land is the most important
thing we have right now. Cannot match it with a dollar sign.
Wasn't it the intent of the Comp Plan to preserve the small farmer?
Destroying it in a little area because we have this funding. If
did not have the funding Keats Avenue would not be mentioned.
In the nine years hatre been out here - have not seen one car
stuck on Keats Avenue except in the winter time - has to be a
good road. Just because we have this money why do we have to use
it on this one mile - isn't there a better way for this money to
be used? Not against MSA funding; but the State is busted. State
announced they are cutting back on highway construction because
they are broke. Here taking this money and putting a burden on
a handfull of people. How much are you paying for trees?
--Bohrer - each tree will be appraised on its'own worth.
--Slawson - if the road is built - should set up a different
type of funding over and above the MSA funding. Should be done
for all the gravel roads in the township.
--Fraser City could not begin to consider paving - cost prohibitive.
Slawson - all of the people should share the cost.
--Mottaz - this is the easiest way on the homeowners to fund a road.
Many farm communities have blacktop roads, property owners were
not forced to sell, did not change the rural atmosphere. Several
points that cannot agree with.
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9. MSA PROJECT - CONTINUED:
--Fraser - reviewed the Council's direction to the Engineer to
look at the whole roadway and determine how the least property
could be taken and reasonable divide the area where property
acquisition would be necessary. Believes the present alignment
is as fair an alignment as possible from the point of view of
using property. Previously it was heavily shifted property
from the east. Now more equitable.
-S. Raleigh -what is the proposed speed limit.
--Bohrer design speed is 40 mph. Should be posted for this.
-S. Raleigh -do State Aid Standards provide for limiting Keats to
40 mph, or do you have to start at 55 mph and petition down to 40.
--Bohrer - no. The 4esign speed is set on the amount of traffic.
Can select the design speed between 40 and 55 mph, Have selected
40.
-S. Raleigh -questioning the intention not to put a culvert on the
north side of the Payne driveway. Great deal of washing in this
area - mistake not to include a culvert in E/W direction under
Keats, north of Paynes driveway. Not one there now.
--Bohrer - presently an existing culvert 200 ft. north of Paynes
driveway: crossing in E/W direction. Proposed to replace this
culvert with a larger one (18"). Fkesent cross culverts will be
properly sized and replaced.
--Bob Ziertman
10193 60th St. can,properties have as many entries as the owner
is required to pay per lot.
Bohrer - no reason why not. Planned to replace present entrances.
If additional entrances would be requested the Council could ask
this be provided. Would have a minimal effect on the cost of the
project. Ziertman's presently have two entrances. Bohrer's
only concern would have to look at the one closest to Hwy 36.
There may be some regulations on the location of this one,
--Dorothy Ziertman - entrance near 36 used for more than a field
entrance. Questioned liability and right-of-way of slow moving
vehicles.if hit by another vehicle.
--Bohrer - if the vehicle is marked "slow moving vehicle" presumes
liability would lie with the other vehicle. Legal question - does
not know. Sight distance will be improved.
--Ziertman - not clear exactly where the roadway is in relation to
his property. Would like another meeting with the Engineer to
clearly define the roadway.
=-Dorothy Ziertman - how did you arrive at the cost per lot.
--Bohrer - detailed estimates have been prepared, based on other
bids for similar work - these figures are estimates, but are close
to what the final costs and assessments will be.
--Eleanor Raleigh -
5193 Keats - Larry Bohrer gave Mrs. Raleigh a breakdown of the
road costs and the amount MSA funding will cover. He explained
that a "lot" constitutes 1 driveway per 40 acre parcel in Ag, with
figures based on present zoning. He explained that Ag Preserve
status is not available yet,. Ag Preserve, though, will not exempt
property from road or drainage assessments. Mrs, Raleigh stated
she would like to see the entire project abandoned and leave the
® road as it is, a country road.
--Steve Raleigh - how many lots will his mother be assessed for.
--Bohrer - three lots.
--Eleanor Raleigh - questioned the expense of filling in on her
side of the road vs ditching and excavating down the area on the
west side of the road.
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8Y CIMARRON CUP r CONTINUED;
Mottaz - recommended contacting Ramsey County to find out
how they handled a similar problem on Goodrich Golf Course.
Motion carried 5-0.
9. MSA PROJECT:
A. Assessments -
The Council reviewed the Engineer's memo of February 25, 1982,
"MSA Assessment Alternatives", outlining cost comparisons for
separate projects, combined projects and the effect of Ag
Preserves on the project(s).
--Mottaz - his position - with interest rates what they are,the
City should build what it has money for. If have money in the
MSA fund to do Keats now, then, do Keats, acid wait until the.
necessary funds are built up to do 45th,, Julep and '47th.'
--Morgan - combined project, with interest, is out as is the
combined project without interest, as the City cannot pay for it.
Favors the Engineer's -recommendation to do Keats as a single'project.
--Novak - Agrees �o� do only what there is money available for.
--Fraser - sees Keats alone as the best choice. Addressed the
question of doing Keats alone vs doing nothing - the question of
need, as raised by residents along Keats. Number of cars low and
expected to remain so for some time. Previous cost figures
raised the question of whether the need matched the dollar ex-
penditures..,with new cost figures for a single project, at a
driveway cost of approximately $783, the need is in better balance
with the dollar need. This weighed against the need for having
,appropriate roads makes sense. Concurs with the other
Councillors position.
--Eder - agrees if going to do anything it should be done on
the individual project basis. Disputes the design standards
and the strict adherence the City must follow in order to get
MSA money.
Audience Comments:
--Steve Raleigh
5055 Keats - does the Council understand where the road will be
placed - do you intend to accept the Engineer's drawings, as
presented, or have him redraw them to place the center of the new
road on the center of the old road.
--Eder- raised a similar question - sufficent research was done
for the Engineer to say,no,that costs would not be less, possibly
greater. Also,several property descptions would allow the City
to place the road on the section line.
-S. Raleigh- questioned these conclusions. Areas west of Keats
in his area, would be impacted far less than the east side of the
road if the road was kept on the center line. Terrain is less steep
on the west side.
--Engineer Bohrer - drew the road in both location, estimated the
amount of earth that would need to be moved and: amount of easements
that would have to be purchased. Cost is directly related to the
amount of excavation that has to be done. City is bound by maximum
slopes, ditch widths and back slopes out of the ditches which would
amount to more excavation, more cost, if the road were placed on
the center line of the existing road. Second factor is impact on
property - approx.imately the same amount of property on each side
of the road has to be obtained in the form of easements or r-o-w
if the road is placed on the section - this is looking at the road
as a whole.
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10.A. LANDFILL SITING CONTINUED:
Bohrer outlined the action that has transpired at Met Council
level, per his memo of March 2, 1982, "Landfill Siting Update",
and recommended that if the City Coucils agrees with the recom-
mendations of the Met Council Staff and Landfill Review Subcommittee
that two resolutions be adopted and forwarded to the _Met Council
in support of the Staff and Review Subcommittee recommendations.
MIS/ Mottaz/Morgan to adopt R-82-10, A resolution requesting
that the Metropolitan Council not approve Washington County's
request for a reduction in the nftmber of mixed municipal solid waste
landfill sites; that the Metropolitan Council require that Washington
County continue its search for candidate solid waste landfill sites
in order to submit a complete inventory to the Council as .required
by the Waste Management Act; that Washington County include agricultural
lands to the search areas which were previously excluded for non-
enviornmental reasons.
Discussion:
--Novak - do not think we should be using good agricultural land
for landfills any more than we should be using parks. Could not
support the resolution if, it implied she favored siting ag land
for landfill purposes.
--Whittaker - land that is best for agriculture is also best for
landfills - there is a underlament of clay that decreases the run-
off into the ground water.
--Bohrer - when you automatically rule out agricultural land you
automatically rule out many sites that would be good for landfills
and not necessarily need alot of engineered safety protective measures.
--Morgan - no land should be put into a landfill.
Motion carried 5-0
M/S/P Mottaz/Morgan to adopt R-82-11,.a Resolution requesting
that the Met Council deem the proposed landfill -site -in the Lake
Elmo Regional Park as inconsistent with Council policies that
protect park and recreational open space areas; that the Metropolitan
Council determine that the site is inconsistent because of a
restrictive covenant in the land acquisition contract between the Met
Council and Washington County; and that other potentially satisfactory
sites appear to exist in Washington County.
11. HAMMES HOUSE MOVING PERMIT:
Bill Hammes updated.the Council on the status of the two homes he
is to be moving off his property.
--Hammes - still checking lots - weather making it difficult
When the load limits go off should be ready to move the two structures.
Has some lots picked out - has to wait until the frost is out of
the ground to perc the lots. Property being considered is out of
Lake Elmo
--Mottaz - satisified with progress - as conditions allow can
request something more definite. Can do perc testing before load
limits are off - can make a determination on a site before the middle
of May. - Mr. Hammes agreed.
--Hammes - requested extension to Uune 1.
--Council agreed to extend the deadline for -William Hammes to May 18.
At that time, Mr. Hammes will report to the Council on his final
plans to move the two houses.
CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982
12. COUNCIL REPORTS:
A. Councillor Mottaz -
1. Conditional Use Permits - requested that a profile of all
CUP's be drafted so that the Council can review their history
and familarize itself with each permit. Also, that a conserted
effort be made to eliminate the use of CUP's as much as possible.
--Fraser - requested that the original permit or the new
proposed permit be copied to the Council when the CUP's are
reviewed.
2. Energy Recovery
Referred the Council to the copy of an article that appeared
in the St. Croix Valley Press on Energy Recovery Planning. The
area of the project noted in the paperf would encompass a large
portion of Section 32 in Lake Elmo. Because of the potential
impact on Lake Elmo, Councillor Mottaz requested the Council
to instruct the Mayor to send a letter to the people who a�e
involved in the planning of this project and request that
a representative of Lake Elmo be involved in the planning of
trash inceneration for steam recovery. The Council agreed.
3. Community�.Room in Old Council Chambers -
Mottaz proposed creatingg an exit at the northwest corner of
the meeting room and constructing a wall that would allow
passage from the room to the wash room area. This would
restrict access to the rest of the fire hall. He recommended
this be considered with the radio room project. The Council
agreed this idea should be presented to the fire.department
for consideration.
13. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
A. Vacation March 19, and March 22-,26. The Council agreed to the
Administrator's vacation time
B. Chemlawn - Lions Park
The Council discussed the City's policy to provide one
application for weed control in Lions Park.each year.
M/S Novak/Morgan to authorize $260 for weed control in Lions
Park, Motion carried 4-1. Fraser opposed. This amount is
budgeted for 1982.
C. Recognition of Retiring Park & Planning Commission Members -
Whittaker recommended the Council adopt a resolutionITt�anking
retiring members and take the Park Commission members out to
dinner at the annual joint meeting in April, inviting the
retiring members as special guests.
On the instruction of the Council, the Administrator will
schedule a joint meeting with the Park Commission. The meeting
to be held -at Tartan P'ark'b-aginnin'g at 5 p.m. on either April
6 or April 20.
D. State Planning Conference -
None of t e Planning Commission members will be able to attend,
E. Board of Review YH_effo�uncil cill hold -.the Board of Review either May 25, Tuesday
or May 26, Wednesday. The Administrator will verify these dates
with the County.
F. Sale of Library Table -
Several Councillors opposed the sale of the table,
--Fraser - a formal appraisal is not necessary determine its
approximate value and what use it can be put to before making
a decision.
The Administrator will get an estimated value.
CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARCH 2, 1982
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G: Lease of Old City Office Building -
The City received three proposals.
Peaslee Company - offering less rent for a five year lease
( and wants outside storage
DeNardo Statutory - restores religious articles - proposed three yr.
lease & outside storage
Vidovic Pizza Shop - agreed to all the conditions of the lease
--Fraser - questioned the expense in meeting the State
health standards for a food service
--Mrs. Vidovic - have checked with the State - flooring and
walls would have to be brought up to standard. Not required
to provide handicap bathroom facilities, --based on State of
Minnesota standard for a 600 sq. ft. area - limited seating area -
Carry out is the biggest portion of their business. Hours
for most of the year proposed to be 4 p.m. to 12 p.m. Summer
hours may be longer. No plan to request a beer license,
The Council agreed the Vidovic proposal was the most desireable.
--Novak - questioned septic needs
--Mrs. Vidovic - proposing to put in just pizza and sandwiches -
primarily take-out orders - would not have a dishwasher -
required to have a three compartment sink,- low water usage.
M/S/P Mottaz/Morgan to enter into a lease agreement with-
Luka Vidovic for rental of the old City Office Building as
a pizza parlor.
H. Communication Seminar -
The Council agreed the Administrator should attend the
Communication Seminar,at.City expense.
ADJOURNMENT: M/S/P Mottaz/Morgan to adjourn at 10:40 p.m.
RESOLUTIONS: R-82-10 Opposition to County Request to Met Council on
Number of Landfill Sites
R-82-11 Opposition to Met Council on Regional Park being
Used as Landfill Site
R-82-10
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WASIINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE METROPOLITAN
COUNCIL TO REQUIRE WASHINGTON COUNTY TO
SUBMIT A COMPLETE INVENTORY OF CANDIDATE
LANDFILL SITES.
WHEREAS, Washington County has submitted just two
of the required four candidate sites for solid waste land-
fill; and,
WHEREAS, all. sites potentially eligible and suitable
in Washington County were not evaluated or submitted; arid,
WHEREAS, the Metropolitan Council must approve
Washington County's request to submit fewer than 4 sites;
and,
WHEREAS, the City of Lake Elmo is confident that
there are four suitable candidate sites for a solid waste
landfill in Washington County if all eligible sites are
considered;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELMO:
1. That the Metropolitan Council not approve
Washington County's request for a reduction in
the number of mixed municipal solid waste land-
fill sites.
2. That the Metropolitan Council require that
Washington County continue its search for
candidate solid waste landfill sites in order
to submit a complete inventory to the Council
as required by the Waste Management Act.
3. That Washington County include agricultural lands
to the. search areas which were previously excluded
for non -environmental reasons.
ADOPTED, this the 2nd. day of March, 1982, by the City
Council of the City of Lake Elmo,
Signed:
Mayna L. er, Mayor
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Laurence E. Whittaker
City Administrator
R-82-11
RESOLUTION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
WAS'HINGTON COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE METROPOLITAN
COUNCIL TO FIND THE LAKE ELMO REGIONAL
PARK RESERVE AN INCONSISTENT SITE FOR A
SOLID WASTE LANDFILL.
WHEREAS, Washington County has submitted part of
the Lake Elmo Regional Park Reserve to the Metropolitan
Council as a candidate site for a solid waste landfill;
and,
WHEREAS, a solid waste landfill is not a park and
open space use and is therefore inconsistent with Metro-
politan Council policy; and,
WIiEREAS, placing a solid waste landfill in the
Regional Park Reserve would violate the restrictive cov-
enants on the use of the property; and,
WHEREAS, there are other potentially suitable sites
in Washington County;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
0'F THE CITY OF LAKE ELMO:
The City of Lake Elmo requests:
1. That the Metropolitan Council determine that
the candidate solid waste landfill site in the
Lake Elmo Regional Park Reserve is inconsistent
with Council policies that protect park and
recreational open space areas.
2. That the Metropolitan Council determine that said
site is inconsistent because of a restrictive
covenant in the land acquisition contract between
the Council and Washington County.
ADOPED, this the 2nd. day of March, 1982, by the City Council,
City of Lake Elmo.
Signed:
Mayna� L. E er, Mayor ^�
EST: !
Laurence E. Whittaker
City Administrator
CLAIMS TO BE APPROVED AT MARCH 2, 1982 LAKE ELMO COUNCIL MEETING
82237
State Treas. - Soc.Sec. Contr.Fund - Feb. Wh.
$ 1,450.76
82238
State Bank of Lake Elmo - Feb. Fed. Wh.
1,731.20
82239
Commissioner of Revenue - Feb. State Wh,
617.00
82240
Laurence Whittaker - March Expense
50.00
82241
Kathleen Crombie - 2/8 & 2/22 P.Z.C.
50.00
82242
James McNamara - Bldg. Insp. Mileage - Feb. $ 157.75
Hosp.Reimb. 100.00
257.75
82243
Gerald Dahlberg - Feb. Animal control
298.00
82244
Washington Nat'l Ins. Co. - Hospitalization
651.87
82245
Allied Group Ins. Trust
88.14
82246
Minn. Benefit Ass'n
26.40
82247
Mary Meyer - 2/23/82 newsletter
175.00
82248
Dave Wisdorf - Interview Mileage
100.40
82249
League of Minn. Cities Ins. Trust
70.00
82250
International Harvester - Truck Parts
43.33
82251
Stillwater Book & Stationery
61.48
82252
St. Paul Book & Stationery
13.15
82253
Fred's Tire Co. - Maint. Truck
6.00
82254
TSB Computer Service - Water Dep't Utility Billing
87.50
82255
No. St. Paul Welding - Water Dep't - Freeze Ups
350.00
82256
Austin Keller Const. Co. - Water Dep't - Main Break
970.00
82257
Treasurer - MCFOA - 1982 Dues
15.00
82258
Steve Pott - Plow Skating Rink
104.00
82259
G.A.Meyer Mercantile
80.50
82260
Buettner Welding - Oxygen-Maint. Dep't
34.54
82261
Four Seasons
12.45
82262
Northern States Power
1,594.50
82263
Northwestern Bell - New Phone installation
1,373.60
82264
Northern States Power - Slag for month of Jan.
11.25
82265
Special Intermediate School Dist. 916 - Fire Dep't
70.00
82266
Stillwater Ambulance Ser. - Fire Dept injury
146.00
82267
T. K. D. A. - General $ 1,092.60
201 Sewer 6,322.83
M.S.A. 3,708.06
Pass Thru 273.91
Water Dep't 450.63
11,848.03
82268
thru 82283 March 5, 1982 payroll
5,000.00
$ 27,387.85