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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-01-84 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES MAY 1, 1984 The meeting was called to order.by Mayor Eder at 7:05 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Present: Dunn, Fraser, Mazzara. (Morgan out of town on business). Also present was City Engineer Bohrer and City Administrator K1ae.rs. 1. Agenda: M/S/P Fraser/Mazzara - To approve the agenda as amended. Add 6A -- Resolution for Mike Pott. (Motion carried 4-0) 2. Minutes: M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - To approve the minutes of the 4-17-84 City Council meeting as presented. (Motion carried 4-0) 3. Claims M/S/P Mazzara/Dunn - To approve claims 84807 thru 811744. (Motion carried 4-0) It. Public Inquiries: There were no public inquiries at this meeting. 5. Engineer's Report: A. Shoreland Permit and lot size variance for Timothy Mandel at Lot 1, Block 2, Eden Park 1st Addition on Lisbon Avenue near Downs Lake. Pursuant to a brief discussion regarding Engineer's concerns regarding the septic system, and pursuant to a favorable recommendation for approval of this application by the DNR and City Staff, the .following action was taken. M/S/P Fraser/Dunn - To approve the shoreland permit and lot size variance for Timothy Mandel at Lot 1, Block 2, Eden Park lst Addition provided that the applicant conform to the septic system recommendation from the City Engineer in his 4-26-84 report. (Motion carried 4-0) B. Shoreland Permit and lot size variance for Riverwood Humes at Lot 2, Oace Acres 4th Addition off of Hidden Bay Trail on Olson Lake. Pursuant- briefdiscussion regarding the Engin.eer's concerns ,oc�ardi.bptib system, and pursuant, to a favorable er i,.en, rn�tttioff frdrri t;he DNR and City Staff, the following action was M/S/P FraserMazzara - To approve the shoreland Permit and lot size variance for Riverwood Homes at Lot 2, Oace Acres 4th Addition, contingent upon the applicant meeting the septic system recommendation from the City Engineer in his 4-26-84 report, including his recommendation that the minimum bottom of trench elevation of 934 be staked in the field by an engineer or surveryor„ (Motion carried 4-0) LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES 5--1.-84 PAGE 2 C. Review of appraisals for right--of-way required for the 19811 MSA Project plus .request to offer said amount to property owners. The City Engineer began this discussion on the MSA Project by t( distributing sections of the appraisals submitted by Winnfield, Inc.., regarding the Myrtle Eder, John and Janet Berschens, and Gerhard and Linda Schmidt property. The Engineer also put up the maps of the MSA Project and right-of-way on the wall. Eder, expressed concern that the highest and best use of the land was not considered when the appraisals were developed. Eder, felt that cluster development of seven units per forty acres could bring a much higher appraisal of the ].and than considering one unit per ten acres residential development. Eder felt that it was possible that the assumption by the appraiser was not appropriate. The Engineer reviewed the residential development criteria that is permitted in residential zones as outlined in the rural residential zone in the City Code. Eder indicated that without noting if the appraisals considered cluster developments, that the values for the right-of-way could be substantially different. The Engineer noted that the VBWD reviews the MSA improvements as required by law. The City, like any other developer, must abide by the 1% run off rule. Dunn indicated that if the appraisals were increased because of potential development, then accordingly, the taxes on the land may also increase. r \ M/S/P Fraser/Mazzara - To refer the.appraisals back to Winnfield Inc., in order for them to consider residential cluster development in arriving at appraised prices; or for Winnfsield, Inc., to give further explanations to the City Council. as to haw the existing appraisals were determined. (Motion carried 3-0-1 <Eder>) Eder mentioned that a special meeting may be needed for the project to con Inue on its sch.>duled time frame. After a brief discussion, it was determined that a special meeting would not be needed as deferring app z:isal.e, until Ma,Y 15th Would not delay the project. A copy of any in; cmat.ion recelvcJ r�eg&Pdi.ng these appraisals will be sent to the Cit- Council as soon as possible. 6. Cl.ty Council 1, �rt9 A. Commenc .tion for Mike Pott Du + �'i @i} ;1 <? ref eni life saving efforts of volunteer fire uc fl} .�du }r««Pxil c 116 P8f-t, and Washington County Deputy, Dennis F1 elpif18 t yd Youiiien in an overturned boat on Lake 1n mld- ri WAV df t9 a f'orml commendation from the t wo, RITL M/S/P Dunn/Fraser _ To adopt, Resolution 84--314 commending Mike Pott for his assistance in''the life saving efforts in rescuing two men on Lake DeMontreville on .Saturday, April 14th. (Motion carried 4-0) LAKM LLIVl0 GITY WUNW.i, M1NU`.i'E6 5" I -dif 7. City Administrator's Report: PAGE 3 A. Application for Park Commission by Rosemary Armstrong for first alternate position. After a brief discussion by the City Council, the following action was taken. M/S/P Dunn/Fraser - To appoint Rosemary Armstrong to the first alternate position on the Parks Commission. (Motion carried 4-0) B. Quotations for backstop in DeMontrevi.11e Park (holdover from 1983 Parks CIP) Klaers updated the Council on recent Parks Commission actions regarding a backstop in DeMontreville Park. After a brief discussion, the following motion was adopted. M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - To accept the low bid of Midwest Fence in the amount of $1,,090 for the materials and installation of a backstop in ➢eMontreville Park. (Motion caried 4-0) C. Planning Commission Updates and Recommendations Klaers gave a brief review and update on recent Planning Commission discussions regarding lot sizes. Fraser indicated that in the future, the Business Association should be invited to participate in discussions which relate to business concerns. Eder indicated that often, the lot sizes required for business' are determined by the use of the business. Dunn indicated that he felt the drainfield requirement is the most important, issue determining lot sizes. Eder. and Fraser both expressed pleasure with the extensive process and review given this topic by the Planning Commission. M/S/P Fraser/Dunn - To acknowledge the Planning Commission's recommendation to retain the 1-1/2 acre lot; size requirements in business and residential zones; and to acknowledge the Planning Commission's endorsement of the 60% rule and average lot size policy, whereby the variances should be kept to an absolute minimum. (Motion carried 4-0) E. Washington County Commissioner, A.B. Schaefer, Jr., to discuss the Waste -to -Energy proposal; the landfill situation; plus other relevant Take Elmo issues. There was a general discussion on the Waste -To -Energy plant that is proposed to be .located in Section 32 of Lake Elmo. Schaefer indicated this his been a very long drawn -out and slow process, and he has urged the b6a4rd to proceed with the purchase of :Land in the event that this , �ni ir1 t : r rti 6h schedule The environmental review process has omp...„'ishi s plant in Section :32, but Schaefer Indicated tk ���{�Wllii ,tY RPPOAP9 to be dragging their feet on this issue as it is an election year.. Schaefer further indicated that, 3M has a committment to purchase the steam from this proposed plant, and 3M's plans for moving to Texs has no effect on this project. LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES 5-1--811 PAGE 11 Bob Dreher, a property owner in Section 32 was present to discuss future residential development in the area and the timing of the Waste--To-Energy plant being in operation after the project proceeds. The discussion centered on private versus public efforts to find alternatives to landfills and it was not established that a private company could do a better ,Job in running a waste--to-energy plant than a public agency. Consensus of the Council was that the County Board should make some type of a presentation in the very near future to the property owners in Section 32 in an effort to keep the citizens updated on the progress of the Waste -to -Energy project. Mike Mazzara will work with Commissioner Schaefer in organizing this presentation. M/S/P Fraser/Mazzara •- To adopt resolution 84-35 requesting the Waste--to-Energy Board make a presentation to the property owners in Section 32 in an effort to update the citizens on the progress of the Waste -to -Energy plant as the original timeframe has been delayed numerous times. (Motion carried 4-0) The contaminated landfill. situation (south of Lake Jane and east of Jamaca) was briefly discussed. A committee to determine alternativv water supply solutions will begin meeting on May 14th, 1984. Committee members will be from Lake Elmo City Council, Lake Elmo citizens, Washington County and Ramsey County staffs. Schaefer indicated that this issue has a much higher priority than the Waste -to -Energy project. Further reports are due from consulting engineer's hired by Washington County (Hitchcock & Assoc) and that report will be forwarded to the City Council when received. Schaefer briefly updated the City Council on planned expenditures in the Regional Park in 1984. The discussion touched on the presentation at the April 17th meeting by Jack Perkovich, Washington County Parks Director on the entrance to the Regional Park from the south. The Council expressed appreciation of the County's consideration of the concerns of Lake Elmo for this entrance. M/S/P Fraser/Mazzara - to adjourn the meeting. Resolution 84-34 Commendation Poi Mike Pott Resolution 84-39, IN4L v6 t® khergy Project Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated. Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting. AGENDA LAKE ELM CITY COUNCIL MAY 1, 1984 7:00 p.m. City Council Meeting Convenes 1. Agenda 2, Minutes; April 17, 1984 3, Claims 7:15 p.m. 4. Public Inquiries 7:20 p.m. 5. Engineer's Report A. Shoreland Permit and lot size variance for Timothy Mandel at Lot 1, Block 2, Eden Park 1st Addition on Lisbon Avenue near Downs Lake B. Shoreland Permit and lot size variance for Riverwood Homes at Lot 2, Oace Acres 4th Addition off of Hidden Bay Trail on Olson Lake. C. Review of appraisals for right-of-way required for the 1984 MSA Project plus request to offer said amount to property owners, D. Other 7:40 p.m. 6. City Council Reports 7. City Administrator's Report A. Application for Park Commission by Rosemary Armstrong for first alternate position B. Quotations for backstop in DeMontreville Park (holdover from 1983 Parks CIP) C. Planning Commission Updates and Recommendations (over) Lake Elmo City Council Agenda 5-1-84 Page 2 8:00 P.M. 8. Washington County Commissioner, A. B. Schaefer, Jr. to discuss the Waste -to -Energy Proposal; the landfill situation; plus other relevant Lake Elmo issues. p► ST. M. ,MI. ST. M. 30* ST. M. y.. St. M. lolk {I. M. THE LOCATION OF THE FOLLOWING 5-1-84 CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS ARE LISTED BELOW: 5A, 5B, 5C, 7B 1 0 1 i i I MOD low J � r V .aM o .a. QD CITY of LAKE ELIMO CLAIMS TO BE APPROVED AT MAY 1, 1984 LAKE ELM COUNCIL MEETING 84807 I.C.B.O. - Bldg. Insp. Application for Certification test 84808 U of M - Fire Dept. - 5 men fire school @ $55.00 each 84809 State Treas.Soc.Sec.Contr.Fd. - April contributions 84810 State Bank of Lake Elmo - April Federal wh. 84811 Commissioner of Revenue - April State wh. 84812 Patrick Klaers - May expense 84813 Lake Elmo Assoc. - May rent 84814 L.M.C.I.T. - May hosp. 84815 Minn. Benefit Assn. 84816 Allied Group Ins. Trust 84817 Laurie Waterman — newspaper 84818 Edith Miller Florist - corsages for appreciation dinner 84819 Mary Meyer - 4/24/84 newsletter 84820 Gerald Dahlberg - animal control officer 84821 James McNamara - April mileage 84822 Valley Branch Watershed - assessment for public rights -of -way 84823 Washington Cty. Treas. - Valley Branch assessments for City property 84824 Washington Cty Surveyor - copies of plats 84825 Northwestern Bell 84826 A T & T 84827 Northern States Power 84828 Rick Keller - Fire Dept. mileage for Rescue Training 84829 U of M - Fire Dept. film rental "Fire Prevention Program" 84830 Givens, Inc. - Fire Dept. lockset 84831 TKDA - General engineering 50.00 275.00 1,793.80 1,647.50 956.00 100.00 1,689.00 1,137.90 52.00 69.69 5.40 40.66 200.00 336.00 179.40 314.10 103.50 6.00 310.28 29.11 1,403.61 29.60 8.00 37.86 469.28 84832 tbru 84844 May llth payroll 6,000.00 17,243.69 M o April 26,1984 TO:: MAYOR FIND COUNCIL MliiEl°Il.EERS IT'Ftif.M: PA'TT.CK 0. KLf-11'RS, CITY ADM:I:N:C;i'1"hiL1"fOR SUBJECT: INFORMATIONAL IONA1.... I°1AT'1?ERI:AL.. FOR MAY 1, 19S4 ME ETINS This May I Council meeting has a vary short agenda. a This tidfi?Fsms to happen every few months because of 'tthe publication and notification requirements on public hearings. As before, the following) meeting, on May 15, already has <:a very .full agenda. Because of the limited number of agenda :items on May 1, 1 have invited Commissioner Schaefer to attend this meeting at. about 8 p.m. to discuss current Lake Elmo issues. Specifically Mr. Schaefer will address thtei! Waste -to -Energy Plant and t:.he:•) landfill situation. Mike Mazz<•ara will also be able to up -data us on the Was>t o -•to-Enerely Plant. If any Council member has any issue cue which they would like addressed by Mr. Schaefer, please call me before 't.he^i! Council meeting F.o 't'.hla't:, I can advise Mr. Schaefer about 't_heme! topics. This will be hfelpful. so thlat. Mr. Schaefer can be better prepared to discuss topics of concern with the Council. H I hltlTt9:;:3 8 Attached are the fYll.anutes from the Planning Commission meeting of 4-9-EE4, from the Park Commission meeting of 3-19--84, and from the Council C;:I P committee meeting of 4•• 1 7••iE 4. fl'1"tiEcai IN4 C]F'tl°IA'l"ICON: 1.. Attached for your'. information :is the most recant•. (i,,;M,.y.. Npwr ;L„et;:t,•eE dated 4.-2 4--8 4. This Newsletter highlights articles can the Regional 1"'<•ar4k entrance and a notice about. Clean-up Day on May 5. 2. Attached is an article from the St.. Paaul. Dispatch dated 4 18h•8 4, regarding the 1,_sfkg 9 mea 81cl •gn<a! F'M E.h•_. This article - describes some of the planned activities and construction projects for the next year. 3. 1 have previously indicated to you that the PtElIt 53wee1ri..nt:1 I"l".fliltf;;;tr, would be starting on Monday, April :r:'.;:, 1984. This project did not begin Can that da'f:F.a because of scheduling by the weather. Therefore, the starting date delays caused -r•r�tE-sed for the street sweeping project_ has boon delayed. Maintenance Foreman, Dave Wi5sclorf, will keep us advised as INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL FOR MAY 1 MEETING APRIL 26, 1984 4" Wish to acknowledge that the gjgd t[ggtgE authorized by the ` Council at its 4~17 meeting has been ordered and is due to be received this week" The staff will he checking out the condition of this unit and how easily it is adaptable to out, - other equipment. The City has approximately a 40-day trial period from the vendor for this tractor, 5. Attached for your information is a 4~17-84 St" Paul Pioneer Proem article regarding a EgIggg qMll g[l Lgkp Mika Pott` Lake Elmo volunteer Firefighter, and a Washington County Deputy rescued two men in an over -turned boat on Lake Demontreville and, according to Washington County sources' definitely saved two lives by their quick response,, At the 4`24~84 Annual Meeting of the Fire Department Relief Association/ Mike receive a letter and Certificate of Commendation from Washington County. All of Lake Elmo can be proud of Mike and the efforts of the Volunteer Fire Department. 6' The City is currently working on the Cgjtlp Dgpigg dEgi[lggg 2EQ11M^ According to Larry Bohrer, the utilities have been lornted in the area and the supplies needed to rectify the problem (per Council authorization last fall) have been Ordgood^ The City would like to clear up this problem as / soon as possible especially considering a law suit regarding \ the denial of a Shoreland Permit has been initiated by Cattle Design. , Regarding this law suit, the City is in the process of responding to a second set of questions that have been subMit+ed by the plaintiff. Actually, there is nothing signifisant to report about this law suit at this time. The City iS basically doing routine work (as much as a law suit W he FOuGMe) in providing preliminary background r3j+N6%@9 Q the court. I will keep you abreast of any Jw Zfl:�Lu' cas�e. Z MoNate" Attached for your information 4low report submitted to Washington .� 0 Midc}itimMal comments regarding this project .ny +T.o I/?y^ EvOrything is starting to come together i f cnA bz:dihg tin this projoct, but as this is new n -c4untstions stiAl remain, These a�ut the banding process are @ `wril���of .stec 1�� «��� Mt,. l��o���d with tho� amount n� wor k mwo hu»t�' �s �oi�g f� thRthisy in ���bonding program.the �� ~ INFORMATIONAL MATIcia=il6al.... FOR MAY 1 MEETING NGa F-lP RIL 26,, 1G;B 4 The major question the Council l will l have to address in the future (late 1985 or 1986) wi.l.l be relative to the klmme•HiiitiiilYlen't. formula and time frame a for the assessment program. The City Council addressed d the hand amount needed by Lake Elmo at their 2 7•-84 meeting. At that time the., staff indicated tlhaat we would need appromimataly $200,000 plum the amount nett prepaid by the property t.y owners for their new sewers. After 'futhe9r analysis, the staff now believes that theme figures should not be added together to determine the 'tottal amount needed in the bond. Thim. collection of permit feels or assessments only relates to "how fast" t:.hle? bond is pain track. Therefore;, the cash flaw indicates theat we will need just slightly more than 'Be2(]0„000. The County backs these bonds with its "ful.l faith and credit" and will, therefore, be 't.he responsible agency for i:]r.-ay:i.ng off 'theme? brands. This ma•t:.eu^:i.aal hcal.=.c been submitted to the County and the County will determine the total bond amount that is nc:;r+cic:+d for their protection in the Lake Elmo project. B. Wish to acknowledge that the Ejghn Irlr,"e::14:7Cimaare 4,.,.(JYI,C;,4ep,l:;, is proceeding. The Planning Commission held as Pubic:: Hearing can the Large L.ot Subdivision and L_ot:. Frontage Variance an a4.-S3--- 84. The Commission tabled a final decision on this application unt.:i.l. 5.14 and it is anticipated that this will go to the City Counci.:l. on May 1% On May 14 t.he., Planning Commission wi.l.l also hold a Public hl:a<•airng on the ode Amendment requested by Mr. Klohn to allow broodmar•eet farms to operate in the RR and Ag zones with as CUP. The Planning Commission will also be reviewing the Code definition for I::rrcccu:mau^e farms that must, be included. The staff expects the Planning Commission to 'table the fi.naal action can this codes amendment until late May and it is anticipated that this will get. to the G'ounc:i.l in the first p<•art:. of June, Future steps for Mr. Klahn include his applying for t:he:•.c CUP to operate is brC:admear'e:'. farm (if the code r,'.lmt•ndme+nt7 is approved) and •l:•.hen his submitting <a cluster development plat. to I:.her City along with obtaining ail building I:7er.m:i.t: for the construction of the barn„ l: expect t7.hat•. t:.he? City (soune.:::i.l, the Planning Commission and the staff will se!e aia grer.'at deal of Mr„ Klohn this mummer. � � / lNFORMATICNN- MATERIAL FOR MAY 1 MEET[NG APRIL 26, 1984 / 9" I would also like to acknowledge that the Planning 0 Commission will hold a Public Hearing on two other Cgde at its 5�14 meeting" These code amendments relate to: A, an extension of time requirement on Simple Lot Divisions when the conditions pf approval have not heen met; and, 8° prohibiting the placement of the City Code required secood drainfield site between the trenches of the first drainfield" The Council authorized the staff to proceed with these code amendments back in February, 1984. If a recommendation is obtainedf from the Planning Commission after the hearing on May 14, then these items will proceed to the Council on May 15" However� if the Planning Commission tables the final decision on these code amendmentsthen these code amendments will not get to the Council until sometime in June. 10" Last Tuesday, April 24, I attended the Washington County Board meeting, At this meeting, Washington County endorsed ths "role/charge of the L�t k e Jan e L@ndi1l Advisgr-Y itt�cv.,"^ According to Mike Ayers, Ramsey County has appointed two staff members to this committee and Washington Ctounty has likewise appointed two staff members" Mr^ Schaefer was origjnally on this committee but has since been removed frmm the committee in favor of staff persoone]^ w"y°^ °" Councillor Bruce Dunn are the City reprcmentative,m to thita committee. It is anticipated that thicmmmittee will start meeting sometime during the first waek of May. The charge of thim cxjmmitts/e is' `/to be responsible for resewching alte~riattve methods of providing an alternative source of safe drinking water to the residents of Lake Elmn who 1' 141v0 been adversely affected by the groundwater contamimation^, I do not have any preconceived notions regarding -hho outcome of this committee, but I respectfully .Jffsr the following tw,x observations,,. �^ L& 1�";Imo is the onl\/ agency with elected officiaIs on � b i-.oalai i��ee� I b0li0ve thwo concept of th j.s committee A.d avinC.1 elected offiaia1% om Ramsey and ./shil"fan C'3cl1Ji1+ies also involved 'in 1his It was `� �hat ths| elec"ted officialm 1nvol\/ement wowld heln Now w^�t'" �«��Rlt�f� �������rLin � th�� ���mn)jttw*��, it appears that it � � wi11 be »much easier'' for the governing bodies to reject ` ~ comot mittee recommendation^ This may nturn out to be th cas«*, hut it is a nri g that keeps surfacn ig" = � \ INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL FOR MAY 1 MEETING APRIL 26, 1984 / 2, The time frame of the committee is constantly being / delayed. We are starting the committee at a time when recommendations were suppose to be coming from the committee" Now the committee will be meeting for two to three months; then it will take an additional two to three months for the governing body to act on a committee recommendation and than; if the recommendation is accepted by the governing body, it will take an additional few months to arrange financing, draft plans, develop a construction time frame, etc. It is conceivable that this project would not start construction (if this is the recommendation) until 1986" By this time, if the spray irrigation system has a successful history in »drawing the contaminants back to the landfill site", the wells that were previously determined to be contaminated may be declared useable by the PCA and no project of any type may be needed" I believe we must approach this committee with the "worst case scenario"" We must have the attitude that there is an enormous amount of contaminants in the landfill and that additional wells will be declared unsuable in the future; and that, therefore, an alternate water source is needed" This approach will prepare us for the worst. 11" Attached is the history of Council discussions and correspondence regarding the bikp Rgth along the new County road 19B that will serve as an entrance in to the Regional Park, As you can tell, concerns on this issue started prior to my arrival to the City and most of this issue was handled by former administrator. The history indicate, 1° A presentation by Chuck Swanson to the Council on 6-21- 83" 2" Notification of adjacent property owners about this issue being on the 7'~5~83 Council meeting. 3^ Dorothy Lyons expressing a list of concerns at this 7-5 meeting (but not mentioning the bike path), 4" A letter from the staff to Mr" Swanson regarding concerns discussed by the Council at its 7~5 meeting. 5" A response from Mr" Swanson to these concerns in which Mr" Swanson specifically states that of the 54 miles of bike paths in Washington County there is no fencing provided and the County has not experienced any nuisance complaints" 6. A letter to Mr" Swanson in late July requesting that the that the County reconsider fences in the bike path area. 7" A letter from Federal Land regarding the location of the bike path" S. The City Council response to this letter at its 8~l6-83 meeting, where the Council requested that the bike path be relocated on the east side of 19 or, if remaining on the west side of 19, that the fencing request he eliminated south of the Hammes pit" 9" A letter dated 8~24 to Mr" Swanson indicating the Council action from 8-16~83. INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL FOR MAY 1 MEETING ' APRIL 26, 1984 we are now aware that thebike path is planned for the east side of 19 and that no fence it planned to protect the adjacent property owners" This latest discussion was at the B-16-83 Council meeting and was listed on the agenda. Dprothy Lyons received all the agendas and the minutes last year (as is true this year) and if she had concerns or problems with the bike path, these concerns should have been expressed at that time. This fence issue may very well be a battle that Hammes' should fight directly with the County; but, the City can certainly support the Hammes' request for fencing" T am not sure that the City should take the lead in this issue, but this is the decision of the Council. I think that the County may want to wait and see if problems develop before spending funds on a fence" Something that the Council may want to request is a row of thi similar to screen the Hammes mining pine trees or something . opration from the public" The Hammes property will be "the window'/ to our community and we would like to project as good of an image as possible. With the mining operation on the Hammes property I am not sure that this is the image we would like to project to the public" The staff is still working on enforcing the junk ordinance violations that surfaced last year on the Hammes property, but this is admittedly a mining operation which always will have some equipment and other items lying around that appear to be ~/ junk. This is a fact of life but many of these items that may be considered junk by the public, are actually an important part of the mining operation. ' This item can he added to the agenda if the Council feels so inclined" If the City wants to take the lead in requesting a fence along the bike path I have no objections with this approach. It sometimes seems that no matter what is done or how many times a governing body rescinds to a request, that a project, in the viewpoint of some, is never done completely right. / \