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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
OCTOBER 1, 1985
Mayor Morgan called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the City
Council chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn, Mazzara, Christ,
Acting Administrator Banister, City Administrator Overby, City
Engineer Bohrer and City Attorney Knaak.
1. Agenda
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzarra - to approve the agenda for the October 1, 1985
City Council Meeting as amended. 6A. Legion Pond, 7D.
Maintenance Employee. (Motion carried 5-0).
2. Minutes: September 10, 1985 Assessment Hearing
September 17, 1985 City Council Meeting
September 24, 1985 Budget Meeting
M/S/P Christ//Mazzara - to approve the September 10, 1985
Assessment Hearing minutes as presented. (Motion carried
4-0-1<abstain: Morgan>).
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to approve the September 17, 1985 City
Council minutes as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Armstrong/Morgan - to approve the September 24, 1985 Budget
Meeting minutes as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
3. Claims
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to approve claims 86521 thru 86565 as
presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
4. Public Inquiries
5. City Engineer's Report
A. Public Hearing for Tom Sweno for partial drainage
easement vacation between lots 480 thru 482 and lots
655 thru 657 Lanes DeMontreville Country Club Addition.
Mayor Morgan opened up the public hearing at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. Sweno is requesting to vacate a portion of the drainage
easement between lots 480 thru 482 and lots 655 thru 657 Lanes
DeMontreville Country Club Addition. This request is being made
to solve an error made by Lake Elmo Land Surveyors, Inc. when they
surveyed and corner staked for house construction at 8076 Hill
Trail North.
Mr. Sweno is proposing to construct a retaining wall to keep this
encroachment at a minimum which would be 3 1/2 feet from the right
property line. See Page 5 for amendment.
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Carl Abrahamson, 8061 Hill Trail, presented his concern of the
water runoff from his property through the culvert and keeping it
open without any fill added to it because it is a drainage
easement.
City Engineer Bohrer explained that a legal descripton of that
portion of the garage that encroaches is needed to draw up the
vacation.
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to adopt Resoluion 85-37 to grant vacation
of that part of the drainage easement upon which the garage is
occupied for Tom Sweno at 8076 Hill Trail North . (Motion carried
5-0).
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to grant a variance for a retaining wall to a
maximum encroachment of 3 1/2-4 feet from the edge of the building
in the drainage easment or what is acceptable to the engineer and
if this variance creates a public drainage problem that the City
has a right to come in and correct it at Mr. Sweno's expense or
have Mr. Sweno correct it at his expense. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. Review of garage to be moved onto the property at
4452 Lake Elmo Avenue.
Applicants: Neil and Debbie Krueger
Mr. and Mrs. Neil Kruger would like to move a 18' x 36' garage
onto their property at 4452 Lake Elmo Avenue North. Due to the
zoning two accessory structures are allowed and no variances are
required.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to grant a request to move a 18' x 36' garage
onto the property :at 4452 Lake ELmo Avenue North for Mr. & Mrs.
Neil Krueger. (Motion carried 5-0).
C. Public Hearing for variance for the number of
accessory structures in the Rl zone, and Shoreland
Permit for Geraldine Hayes at 10917 32nd St. N.
Pursuant to published notice the public hearing was opened at 8:28
p.m.
Mrs. Hayes is proposing to construct a 22' x 24' garage and would
like to keep the existing accessory structure which is 12' x 181.
This accessory structure is 16 feet from 32nd Street and is in
line with most of the garage and/or accessory structures on 32nd
St. This property is in the 201 septic system improvement
program and none of these improvments will affect this. The
hardship is that the existing structure is too small for a normal
garage and does not meet the requirements for improvement to a
two -car garage. None of the existing garages along 32nd St. meet
the setback from the road or the side yard setback.
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M/S/P Morgan/Armstrong - to grant a variance for Geraldine Hayes
at 10917 32nd St. N. for construciton of a new 22' x 24' garage
and to keep the existing 12' x 18' accessory structure. (Motion
carried 5-0).
D. Rezoning from RR to R1 approximately 18 acres of
land legally described as part of Government Lot 2
in Section 10. Applicant: Raymond Mester
Mr. Mester proposes to rezone 18 acres of land located north of
Dawcin Acres and east of Teal Pass Estates. The land is currently
zoned RR and it is requested to be rezoned R-1. The proposed
rezoning to R-1 would be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan
which lists this area as "Residential" on the Future Land Use
Management Plan. According to the Washington County Soil Survey,
all of the soils should be suitable for septic systems except the
very west edge, which is an eroded, steep slope.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to recommend tabling this rezoning application
for two weeks to allow a longer time for consideration. (Motion
carried 5-0).
E. Continuation of request for.rezoning from RR to R1
approximately 21.5 acres of land legally described
as part of Government Lot 3, Section 24.
Applicant: Gene Peltier
Mr. Peltier proposes to rezone approximately 21.5 acres of land
located west of Eden Park Addition. The proposed rezoning to R-1
would be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
M/S/P Morgan/Mazzara - to adopt Ordinance 07974 rezoning from RR
to R-1 for approximately 21.5 acres of land legally described as
part of Government Lot 3, Section 24. (Notion carried 5-0).
6. City Council Reports
A. Legion Pond
Councilman Mazzara reported that he met with Valley Branch
Watershed District at its September 13th meeting with the
Council's request to consider an engineering study consisting of a
test pumping experiment. This -experiment would pump approximately
40 to 60 acre feet of water from Legion Pond into Lake Elmo.
VBWD responded negatively to this request because they feel that
adding additional water to the system, which would ultimately end
up in West Lakeland. Township would further compound the problems
already existing throughout the watershed district. The City
suggested as a trade off to hold 40 to 60 acre feet of water at
Eagle Point Lake, but VBWD noted last years problems wth Eagle
Point and felt the City could not guarantee that it could hold
back as much water as it would like to. VBWD further suggested
that before a project affecting the residents downstream was
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initiated, hearings should be held to receive input from these
residents.
There were people at this meeting from Legion Pond, and they
expressed that they did not want to send their problem to anyone
down stream, but would like to do the study and see if the water
would come back up again.
Councilman Dunn brought up a district court decision that said it
is unconstitutional to assess contributing properties for these
watershed projects. On that basis he wants to know who is going
to pay for this and where the City would legally stand.
7. City Administrator's Report
A. 1986 Budget Resolution
Since there has been no changes in the Budget that had been
discussed at the Budget Meeting on September 24, 1985, the 1986
Budget was approved.
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to adopt Resolution 85-35 adopting the
Budget- for 1986 and levying taxes for 1986. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. Set wage for Gate Keeper at the Composting Site
Dave Olson on behalf of Boy Scout Troop 162 expressed interest in
assisting the public in the disposal of leaves and grass clippings
at the composting site to be located near the Public Works Garage
off of Jamaca Ave. The site will open on Saturday, October 19 and
run Saturday and Sunday 8:30-4:30 and Wednesday from 12:00-4:30
for five consecutive weekends. The first compost will be ready in
18 months or the Spring of 1987 and will start off being free.
Dave Olson has checked with the Scout office and said they don't
need insurance. Olson will have to get a disclaimer signed by
every scouts parents. A memo of understanding will be written up
by Dave Olson. The scout troop will be paid $575 by Washington
County for their efforts in assisting with this program.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to contract
gatekeeping at the compost site
$575. (Motion carried 5-0).
with the Boy Scout Troop 162 for
for the fall season of 1985 for
C. Correct spelling of "Jamaca" Avenue Street Signs.
Several residents have brought this to our attention that
Jamaca should have been spelled Jamaica, and it appears that this
error was made throughout Washington County. This has been changed
in Cottage Grove, but not throughout Washington County. Nels
Nelson would like it to remain "Jamaca" because that is how it is
spelled on the maps for the Watershed. The street names were a
program of the Metropolitan Council. The consensus of the City
Council was to leave it "Jamaca" until a petition should come in
requesting to change the spelling.
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D. Maintenance Employee
Acting Administrator Banister brought to the attention of the City
Council that the Maintenance Light Equipment Operator has used up
all his eleven sick days and vacation time. Maintenance Foreman
Olinger has reported that this employee has been routinely sick at
the first of the month and this has been going on for the six
years he has been employed.
Councilman Mazzara suggested that a letter be written defining the
problem, explain the City's position and some type of resolution
and the end result if not resolved. City Attorney Knaak confirmed
that it is best if it is documented and not done verbally. City
Administrator Overby will talk to Olinger and monitor this problem
for 30 to 60 days and if it doesn't change this will be brought
back to the City Council's attention.
M/S/P Morgan/Armstrong - to adjourn the City council meeting at
9:03 p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
Resolution 85-35 - adopting the budget for 1986 and levying taxes
for 1986.
Resolution 85-37 - grant vacation of that part of the drainage
easement upon which the garage is occupied for Tom Sweno at 8076
Hill Trail North.
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Amended 10-15-85
City Engineer Bohrer advised that the drainage would not be impeded
for the rest of the neighborhood.
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may
seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information
is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from
City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also
have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
OCTOBER 1, 1985
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REMINDER: JACK HODGSON, PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF THE BEEMAN HOUSE
INVITED THE CITY COUNCIL TO TOUR THE HOME AT 6:30
P.M. PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER 1 COUNCIL MEETING.
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7:00 p.m. Meetings Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: September 10, 1985 Assessment Hearing
September 17, City Council Meeting
September 24, Budget Meeting
3. Claims
4. Public Inquiries
5. City Engineer's Report
7:30 P.M. A. Public Hearing for Tom Sweeno for partial
drainage easement vacation between lots
480 thru 482 and lots 655 thru 657 Lanes
DeMontreville Country Club Addition.
B. Review of garage to be moved onto the
property at 4452 Lake Elmo Avenue.
Applicants: Neil and Debbie Krueger
8:00 p.m. C. Public Hearing for variance for the number
o accessory structures in the Rl:zone, and
Shoreland Permit for Geraldine Hayes at
10917 32nd St. N.
D. Rezoning from RR to Rl approximately 18
acres of land legally described as part
of Government Lot 2 in Section 10.
Applicant: Raymond Mester
(OVER)
E. Continuation of request for rezoning from
RR to R1 approximately 21.5 acres of land
legally described as part of Government
Lot 3, Section 24. Applicant: Gene Peltier
F. Other
6. City Council Reports
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7. City Administrator's Report
A. 1986 Budget Resolution
B. Set wage for Gate Keeper at the
Composting Site.
C. Correct spelling of "Jamaca" Avenue
Street Signs.
D. Other