HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-07-86 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JANUARY 7, 1986
Mayor Morgan called the City Council meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
in the City Council Chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn, Mazzara
(departed 8:30 p.m.), Christ, City Administrator Overby, City
Engineer Bohrer and City Attorney Knaak.
1. Agenda
Delete 8C. Cable Commission Final Report Modification, Add 6D.
Shafer Contracting Fill Permit, 8G. Office Space Project, 8H.
Snowmobile Problem, 81. Resolution for Bill Lundquist.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to approve the agenda for the January 7, 1986
City Council Meeting as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
2. Minutes - December 3, 1985
M/S/P Armstrong/Mazzara - to approve the December 3, 1985 City
Council Minutes as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
3. Claims
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to approve the December 17, 1985 claims
86791 thru 86845 as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Mazzara/Armstrong - to approve the January 7, 1986 claims
86846 thru 86914 as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
4. Public Inquiries
Public Inquiries were opened up by Mayor Morgan at 7:15 p.m.
Dean. Johnston, 8200 Hill Trail, wishes to withdraw for
consideration his variance request for parking.
M/S/P Morgan/Mazzara - to accept the withdrawal of the variance
request for parking from Dean Johnston at 8200 Hill Trail.
(Motion carried 5-0).
5. ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
A. Election of Acting Mayor
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to appoint Council member Arlyn Christ as
Acting Mayor during the absence of Mayor Morgan. (Motion carried
5-0).
Mazzara - In the past they have selected the two senior members.
Is there any special reason why they did not follow this.
Dunn - I feel that an Acting Mayor is needed when the Mayor is
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absent or moves out and would like to see a strong individual in
this position. I believe Council member Christ has displayed this
over the past year.
B. Appointment of Official Depositories
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to appoint the State Bank of Lake Elmo,
Washington Federal, Oak Park Heights, American National of St.
Paul, Offerman and Company, Inc., and Juran & Moody Company, Inc.
as the City of Lake Elmo's official depositories. (Motion carried
4-0-1<Abstain: Mazzara>).
C. Designation of Legal Newspaper
There have not been any problems with the Washington County Review
being our legal newspaper and the staff recommends designation of
the Washington County Review as our legal newspaper in 1986.
Armstrong - There should be an occasional article sent to the St.
Croix Valley Press. Instead of Washington County Review, it is
now the Oakdale -Lake Elmo Review.
M/S/P Armstrong/Christ - to designate the Washington County Review
as the Lake Elmo official newspaper.
D. Appointment, of City Consultants
M/S/P Armstrong/Mazzara - to appoint Larry Bohrer of TKDA as Lake
Elmo's City Engineer. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to appoint Rob Chelseth as Lake Elmo's City
Planner. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Christ/Dunn - to appoint Fritz Knaak as Lake Elmo's City
Attorney. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to appoint Gregory J. Tavernier as Lake Elmo's
City Prosecutor. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Appointment of the Council as Personnel, Budget, and
Capital Improvement Committee.
Dunn - Regarding the Building Committee, what if the Council as a
whole would meet on a Saturday or short term notice meeting?
Overby - How many Council members constitute a quorum for a
meeting. Overby's understanding is that if more than two council
members attend, then a notice is required.
M/S/P Armstrong/Morgan - to appoint the entire City Council to
serve as a committee for budget, capital improvement and personnel
matters. (Motion carried 5-0).
F.- Appointment of City Representatives to Community
Education Advisory Boards
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No volunteers have applied for either position. It was
recommended to table action on this item until after the vacancies
have been advertised in the City Newsletter and applications have
been received.
G. Appointments to City Commissions
City Attorney Knaak referred to the language in the Code "Members
shall be appointed by the City Council for three year terms so
that only one-third of the appointments will expire on December
31st of each year. No member may serve more than two consecutive
three year terms unless the average years of service for all
Commission members is less than four years. A member who has
served two terms may be reappointed by the City Council after a
one year absence". Knaak stated that this is discretionary. Once
the condition has been met and the average age is under four
years, it is possible for somebody to be reappointed.
Mazzara - The intent of the code is to keep a turnover in both
commissions. Also the intent was not to eliminate in this sense
three people, but to keep continuity on the Planning Commission.
Already in the last two years, they have added four new members.
Armstrong stated that the key word is that the reappointments were
at the discretion of the City Council and it would be appropriate
for the Council to look at the new applications for the Planning
Commission.
The following are applications that have been received for the
Planning Commission: Ron Reuther, 8391 59th St. No.; Marjorie
Williams, 3025 Lake Elmo Avenue N.; and Steve Raleigh, 5055 Keats
Avenue No.
City Administrator Overby stated that David Lang has resigned from
the Planning Commission because of inability to attend the
meetings, so this creates another Planning Commission vacancy.
Mazzara - I think we are making a serious mistake if we eliminate
these three people especially if they wish to stay on. Four new
people are enough on the Planning Commission.
Armstrong - There are people that have been on the Planning
Commission long enough to add meaning to what Rob Chelseth is
talking about. Now we are going to update the Comprehensive Plan
and this would be a good time to get new people in as long as we
are starting over and let them see how it all comes about.
Mazzara - It is unfortuante in a city this size that things have
to be politically motivated because you don't like or want
somebody to be put on the Commission. You have people that have
worked hard and want to continue their terms and have tried to be
unbiased and look out for the best interests of Lake Elmo. Then
the City Council comes down to being political and this is a
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shame.
Morgan - The code was discussed thoroughly and it was decided to
keep the code in place. When the code was first suggested, I
voted against it many years ago. Maybe at a later meeting this
code should be discussed and changed.
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn - to send thank you letters to �he Planning
Commission members that have served and whose terms are up and
appoint the three new applicants, Williams, Reuther and Raleigh.
(Motion carried 4-1<Mazzara>).
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to move Al Martens and Ann Bucheck from 1st
and 2nd Alternate to full members. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to move Ron Reuther to a full voting Planning
Commission member position. (Motion carried 4-1<Mazzara>). See Page
11 for amendment of 1-21-86,
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to send thank you letters to Jim Yarusso
and Nancy Hansen of the Park Commission. (Motion carried
4-1<Mazzara>).
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to reappoint Merle Olson, Ed Stevens and
David. VanLandschoot who have completed their first term on the
Parks Commission. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to draft a letter"to those who have
absentism in excess of 30 percent per year with the possibility
that they could be removed from the Commissions. (Motion carried
5-0).
6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Long Term Drinking Water Supply Plan
City Engineer Bohrer requested a copy of the "Long Term Drinking
Water Supply Plan" from Mary Luth, Community Services Director.
This document was prepared by Washington and Ramsey Counties as
required by MPCA. Basically, it summarizes the same information
found in 1984 Advisory Committee Report.
One new piece of information was the implementation schedule.
Bohrer found it disturbing that once the MPCA and MDH positions
are eastablished and assesed, it could still take another 12-14
months to have a functioning water system. He does agree that 7
months is a reasonable time for Steps 4, 5 and 6 for design and
construction. It does not seem reasonable that it should take 7
months for the City and Counties to reach a decision on which
systems to choose. According to the schedule put forth in this
report, affected Lake Elmo residents will not have a water system
until 1987 at the earliest.
Morgan - I think 7 months is entirely too long to decide what an
adequate system is. It has been discussed for almost two years.
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In summary, Bohrer stated that both counties in separate
resolutions had one time endorsed the Lake Elmo water supply, but
then they went on to propose an inadequate system. What he
considered an adequate system would cost about $200,000 more than
what they estimated. The Counties began to relook at the Oakdale
option in hopes of saving some money. The present Oakdale system
that serves Zycad Development is deadended and Oakdale cannot
supply both Zycad and Lake Elmo unless the Oakdale system is
looped with the present water main that they have done on
Stillwater Blvd. and Ideal. That loop will cost about $200,000.
So now Oakdale and Lake Elmo systems may be equal again. Bohrer
feels it iS time for the County to start talking to Lake Elmo.
City Administrator Overby and with the help of City Attorney Knaak
will write a letter to the County Commissioners expressing the
City's disappointment with the schedule delay.
City Engineer Bohrer suggested to be put on the Washington County
Board Agenda for their Tuesday, January 14th, meeting.
B. Review comments on Revised 509 Plan
The information that was given on the Revised 509 Plan does not
appear to be relevant any longer. After talking to the Watershed
Engineer, Bohrer understands that the Metro Council and the PCA
are objecting to the proposed 509 Plan because the routing of
Sunfish Lake water into Lake Elmo will cause degrading of the
water quality in Lake Elmo. The Metropolitan Council funds were
going to pay for a significant portion of the water control
structklVe on Eagle Point Lake. The reason they were going to do
that is because keeping phosphorus laden water out of Lake Elmo
has long term benefit for water quality. They feel it would be
inconsistent to fund a water quality control project on Eagle
Point but let uncontrolled, as far as water quality goes, water
from Sunfish Lake into Lake Elmo.
The Board of Managers is looking at the southern route that was
considered in 1976. That is coming out of Lake Olson which
presently now flows into Deer Pond and diverted. south into Crombie
Pond, through the Shafer Pit, southerly just west of Kenrdige
Additions under Highway 5, under the railroad trussel and Beutel
Pond, with a larger outlet out of Beutel Pond through the Tablyn
Park channel into Eagle Point Lake and bypassing Lake Jane, City
Park Pond and Sunfish Lake. The Managers hope to obtain EPA Clean
Water Funds in form of a grant. The grant deadline is January 16,
1986 for the application.
Bohrer would like the City to have some type of preliminary plan
either to the office or to him by next week so that at the next
Council meeting they could discuss this.
Jim Weyer - At their Thursday nights meeting Valley Branch stated
that this will not delay the project. The cost would be increased
about $500,000, but they are looking for $200,000 in grants. The
rationale for doing this is that the Metro Council and PCA will
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not approve a plan unless it considers the water quality of Lake
Elmo.
A question was raised from the audience as to why does the water
that is coming out of Sunfish Park which is running over the
ground smell like sewage. Mayor Morgan suggested, this be brought
to the attention of the Valley Branch to see if their technical
advisors can give us an explanation for this.
City Administrator Overby stated that in December we did not have
the second Council meeting and the Council came to a decision
through a telephone poll to continue the VBWD pumping through the
winter and thought this should be reaffirmed by a form of a
motion.
Morgan - In early December Valley Branch wanted to shut the pump
off. There was a power failure in mid -December and they tried to
drain the pipes and found out it was extremely difficult to find
the low areas because of the heavy snow to drain the pipes rapidly
enough. When the power came back on theyeoncluded that it was
more dangerous to try todrain the pipes '.-inadequately than to just
let it run. He has found through his own personal experience with
Sunfish Park,it causes more damage to turn the pump on once you
have it off than to leave it run because slush dams build up.
Based on this, he was in favor of leaving the pump run.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to allow VBWD to continue pumping at Lake
Jane until they can no longer feasibility pump as was indicated by
a telephone poll of the Council on 12-13-85. (Motion carried
5-0).
C. Cottage Grove Ravine Watershed Plan
Tom Armstrong - Lake Elmo's representative on the Cottage Grove
Ravine Watershed Joint Powers Board stated that this organization
has set a deadline for April 1 for each one of the five cities
within the watershed to come up with their plan. At that point we
will assimulate-the plans together and come up with an overall
water management plan for the Cottage Grove Ravine. The only
problem they foresee is that we have 160 acres of Oakdale that
flow into Lake Elmo into approximately 1140 acres and into
Woodbury.
Armstrong has contacted Douglas Thomas, the Washington County
Resource Conservationist, and they have made a proposal as to costs
that will be involved in putting together their portion of the
plan. Armstrong suggested to the Council that under the new law
you can put together a taxing district where you can impose a
separate mill rate and asks that this be done between now and
October for the Cottage Grove Ravine Watershed. Any costs that is
incurred in the CGRWD be taxed back and put on an additional mill
( rate to that part of our City the next time you assess it.
Douglas Thomas, MN Soil and Water Conservation District, explained
the plan content and associged cost for a local watershed plan for
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that portion of Lake Elmo lying within the Cottage Grove Ravine
Watershed Management Organization that was listed in his December
11, 1985 letter to Tom Armstrong. The plan content has three
sections: Inventory of Existing and Future Conditions, Inventory
of the Watershed Hydrologic System and Develop Objectives,
Policies and Management Strategies. The total cost estimate is
$2,175 which comes out to be $2.00 an acre.
City Engineer Bohrer stated that there are a few things that the
City will have to have input on such tasks as the Future Land Use
and the Development staging, Management Strategies and
Implementation Program.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to approve the estimated expenditure of $2,175
and take this cost out of the appropriate fund for the Lake Elmo
portion of the Cottage Grove Ravine Watershed Plan. (Motion
carried 4-0).
D. Amendment to Shafer Contracting Fill Permit
City Engineer Bohrer stated that this is an amendment to the fill
permit that was granted to Shafer Contracting for fill on the
DeCoster property in Section 32. Unbeknown to Shafer Contracting
and the City, when MN/DOT constructed 4th Street there was a
culvert installed along the alignment of old Helmo Avenue. This
filling that has been permitted on the DeCoster property will
eliminte the need for that culvert. Shafer Contracting would like
to eliminate this culvert which is owned and under the
jurisdiction of Mn/DOT by constructing a masonry plug on each end
and then fill in the ground. The problem is it involves some
filling on the north side of 4th Street which is in the Helmo
Avenue rigt-of-way.
Bohrer has looked at the situation and the filling occurs entirely
on the Helmo Avenue right-of-way and the drainage that collects in
this corner of the intersection can be routed into another
existing culvert to the north. He sees no impact on Lake Elmo or
Elmo Avenue.
M/S/P Christ/Armstrong - to approve an amendment to an existing
fill permit for an estimated 1,300 cu.yds. to fill the necessary
culvert elimination. (Motion carried 4-0).
7. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. 1986 Conditional Use Permits
There are fourteen Conditional Use Permits that are up for
renewal. Building Offical Jim McNamara stated that to his
knowledge there hs not been any complaints or problems with these
CUP Is.
1. Rockin L trailer Sales, 10824 Hudson Blvd.
2. Oakdale Gun Club
3. Breheim Kennls, 8415 38th St. No.
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4. Lauseng Stone, Inc., 9591 60th St. N.
5. goods, Inc. 11490 Wudson Blvd.
6. Oakwood Animal Hospital, 8611 34th St. N.
7. Green Acres Rec., 8989 55th St. N.
8. Country Sun Farm, 11211 60th St. N.
9. Cimarron Golf Course
10. Animal Inn, 8633 34th St. N.
11. Helen Miller Fisher, 8139 38th St. N.
12. Shafer Contracting Co.
13. Vali Hi Drive
14. Hammes Mining (no application received)
There was discussion on Green Acres Rec. Conditional Use Permit
which states that the time of the last session had to end at 10:00
p.m. Because of insurance problems, they have to run their
sessions for two hours instead of 2 1/2 hours. Accidents were
happening in the last 15 minutes of the session so the insurance
company requested they cut back their sessions one-half hour. On
Friday and Saturday the sessions run from 8:30 to 10:30 p.m. and
during the week they are opened from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. In their
permit it also states that there should be no more than 12 parties
or events after these closing hours in any one year. This is what
they will use to finish off the winter schedule because they
probably only have 6 weeks left. They will roll back the time
sessions one-half hour for next year which will comply to the
required time stated on the CUP.
City Attorney Knaak stated that the City Code states that a
Conditional use Permit for mining purposes requires an annual
permit. There has been no application for renewal so as of this
time the Hammes Mining has no CUP for mining in the City of Lake
Elmo.
Dunn - I suggest a Registered letter be sent.to Hammes Mining
notifying them that they have no mining permit for continued
operation until the Hammes Mining Conditional Use Permit
application is received.
M/S/P Morgan/Armstrong - to approve the following Conditional Use
Permits with the exception of Hammes Mining because no application
or payment has yet been received. (Motion carried 4-0).
Resolution 86-2 Rocking L Trailer Sales
86-3 Oakdale Gun Club
86-4 Breheim Kennels
86-5 Lauseng Stone, Inc.
86-6 Goods, Inc.
86-7 Oakwood Animal Hospital
86-8 Green Acres Rec.
86-9 Country Sun Farm
86-10 Cimarron Golf Course
86-11 Animal Inn
86-12 Helen Miller Fisher, (Fisher Kennel)
86-13 Shafer Contracting Co.
86-14 Vali Hi Drive In (This permit will be approved
contingent upon proper paper work being completed.)
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B. JOINT COUNCIL - Planning Commission Meeting
There will be a joint meeting between the City Council and the
Planning Commission on Monday, January 13th at 7:30 p.m.). The
City Council will look over the attached summary of the
Comprehensive Plan and prepare a list of questions for this joint
meeting.
8. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Personnel - Job Evaluation and Salary Increase
City Administrator Overby stated that Administrative Secretary
Sharon Lumby has successfully completed her six month probationary
period effective 11-21-85 and received a 5 percent salary
increase. At the special assessment meeting of 9-10-85, 1986
salary levels for staff were approved at a 4.0 percent increase
over the 1985 pay rate except for the Administrative Secretary.
In order for her to get a 4 percent increase in 1986, I recommend
that her salary should be changed to $7.43/hour effective 1-1-86.
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to approve a 4 percent salary increase
($7.43/hour) for Administrative Secretary Sharon Lumby effective
January 1, 1986. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. Employee Right To Know Act
The Employee Right to Know Act was passed by the Minnesota
Legislature in 1983. It is intended to ensure that employees are
aware of the dangers associated with hazardous substances, harmful
physical agents or infectious agents that they may be exposed to
in their workplaces.
The program offered by the Poison Control Center at St. Paul
Ramsey Medical Center appears to be the most cost effective. It
includes both a training session for all employees and written
information on hazardous materials which can be updated annually
as part of the service fee. The total package cost is $478.75
(including the Fire Department).
City Attorney Knaak advised the Council that as a practical matter
there is no question for the Fire Department to be included. When
this bill was discussed arguements were made to include the Office
Staff. If there was an accident or fire and someone was unaware
of possible caustic fumes, the City could have because of the
existence of this statute a greater liability. If an employee
refuses to attend, a signed statement should be required.
M/S/P Christ/Dunn - to approve to accept the program offered by
the Poison Control Center at St. Paul Ramsey Medical Center at a
total cost of $478.75. (Motion carried 4-0).
C. Cable Commission Final Report
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This Report will be presented at the City Council meeting on
January 21, 1986.
D. Office Equipment Needs
Information was distributed by the City Administrator regarding
various copiers with respect to cost, features and sorters.
Administrator Overby will look into a copier with only the
features that are necessary and most cost effective.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to authorize spending $8,000 for the most cost
effective copier system and to consider leasing versus buying.
(Motion carried 4-0).
E. Request for Bids on New Dump Truck
The 5 Year Capital Improvement Program for Maintenance Department
Equipment indicates that replacement of the 1979 dump truck is
scheduled for 1986.
Dunn - I would like to advertise for bids to get some idea of the
cost of these vehicles. At this point we have some basis to
determine the value of old versus new. I suggest that we either
use the truck or get rid of it.
The specifications would be for the truck, hydraulic mechanism and
dump box. The plow, underbody and sander would be acquired
separately, be dealing directly with the manufacturers. There is
$29,800 in reserve funds budgeted for this.
M/S/P Morgan/Christ - to advertise for bids on a new dump truck
per specifications. (Motion carried 4-0).
F. Newsletter Item
Bruce Dunn suggested that this information relative to household
hazardous waste could be inserted into the City Newsletter and
Shoppers Review.
Rose Armstrong and Bob Overby will look into the most effective
way.
G. Office Space Project
Mayor Morgan had talked to Mr. Friedrich, and he was willing to
trade land around the access to the park. The land by the church
is not available because he has sold it. City Engineer Bohrer
will look into the amount of land needed for a building, parking
and a drainfield. Councilmember Armstrong questioned if this
entry on an angle would create a traffic hazard and felt Mn/Dot
and Engineer Bohrer could look at the site.
H. Snowmobile problem
There are problems with snowmobiles being driven on people's
property in front of the White Hat and onto Lake Elmo Oil. An
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article should be written regarding obeying our snowmobile
ordinance and a map of trails could be indicated.
I. Resolution for Bill Lundquist
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to approve Resolution 86-1 offering
appreciation and thanks to William Lundquist for his contribution
to the City of Lake Elmo from 1970 through 1985. (Motion carried
4-0).
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 10:10
p.m. (Motion carried 4-0).
Amended 1-21-86 Page 4
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to move Ron Reuther and Marjorie Williams
to a full voting member and move Steve Raleigh as 1st Alternate
on the Planning Commission, (Motion carried 4-1<Mazzara>).
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may
seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information
is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from
City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also
have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear. Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 7, 1986
7:00 p.m. Meetings Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: December 3, 1985
3. Claims
7:15 4. Public Inquiries
5. ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
A.
Election of
Acting Mayor
B.
Appointment
of Official Depositories
C.
Designation
of Legal Newspaper
D.
Appointment
of City Consultants
E.
Appointment
of the Council as Personnel,
Budget, and
Capital Improvement Committee
F.
Appointment
of City Representatives to
Community Education
Advisory Boards
G.
Appointments
to City Commissions
6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Long Term Drinking Water Supply Plan
B. Review comments on Revised 509 Plan
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C. Cottage Grove Ravine Watershed Plan
7. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. 1986 Conditional Use Permits
B. JOINT COUNCIL - Planning Commission Meeting
(7:30 p.m. January 13th).
8. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Personnel - Job Evaluations and
Salary Increases
B. Employee Right to Know Act
C. Cable Commission Final Report
D. Office Equipment Needs
E, i Request for Bids on New Dump Truck
F; Newsletter Item
9. Adjournment