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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
FEBRUARY 18, 1986
Mayor Morgan called the City Council meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
in the City Council Chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn, Mazzara,
Christ, City Administrator Overby, City Engineer Bohrer, and City
Attorney Knaak.
1. Agenda
Delete 10A. Bids received for dump truck, underbody plow, sander
and reversible snow plow. Add 11A. Respect for Lake Elmo
Citizen's Privacy.
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to approve the agenda for the February 18,
1986 City Council meeting as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
2. Minutes: February 4, 1986
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to approve the February 4, 1986 City
Council Minutes as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
3. Claims
Dunn questionned Claim #87042 - Eckberg „ Lammers, Briggs - legal
letter to auditor as to why we didn't use our legal firm. As to
Claim #87062 Minn. Good Roads and #87071 AWWA, Dunn would like the
City Administrator toscrutinize these memberships and see what
each membership is worth.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to approve the February 18,1986 Claims 87032
thru 87088 as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
4. Public Inquiries
There were no public inquiries.
5. Opening Ceremony for Regional Park - Gary Horning
The opening ceremony is scheduled for June 21, 1986. The opening
social hour will be at 9:00 a.m. and the festivities will start at
10:00 a.m. There will be a fishing contest for the kids, a
marathon for bike riders, and horseback riders. Mayor Morgan was
asked to be a guest speaker and the City was asked if they would
like to share in any of the expenses (they estimate about $1,000
in expenses). They estimate about 500-1,000 people at the opening
ceremony. The swimming facility will be available and some of the
picnic grounds, camping area and the group shelter will be open.
There will not be a charge for the opening day, but there will be
a $2 daily charge or, a $10 seasonal charge for a 21 month sticker.
6. Parks Commission Vacancy
A. Candidate Interview and Appointment
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Scotty Lyall was not available for an interview for the Parks
Commission. His application and Gloria Knoblauch's application
will be kept on file.
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to appoint Robert Haacke as 2nd Alternate
on the Parks Commission. (Motion carried 5-0).
7. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. Zoning District Amendment - A.M. and Paul Palzer
This rezoning was tabled from the 2-4-86 meeting to allow for
further consideration.
Additional information regarding clustering 6 lots, each 1 1/2
acres, along Keats Avenue was brought in by the Palzer's. Because
of this new information, it was suggested that the Planning
Commission take a look at the application.
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to remand the Palzer rezoning request to
the Planning Commission based on the additional information
acquired. (Motion carried 4-1<Mazzara-felt there was enough
information to make a decision>).
B. County Solid Waste Master Plan -
Landfill Site in Lake Elmo
Mayor Morgan stated that there is already one landfill failure in
our City that is contaminating private wells and that has not been
corrected. Many citizens were forced to leave their homes to make
room for the Regional Park with the understanding that the land
would be forever in park land. The proposed landfill site is
dangerously close to Eagle Point Lake which, with the modified 509
Plan drains into areas not only in Lake Elmo, but communities
downstream. Mayor Morgan feels that there is no such thing as a
"safe" landfill, which unfortunately is only discovered after the
hazard has been created. It also was suggested that when the
County does an Environmental Impact Statement the City should get
a copy and be informed.
Councilman Dunn will voice these City's strong objections against
the proposed landfill site at the meeting on Wednesday, February
19th.
M/S/P Punn/Mazzara - to dref.t.a resolution condemning the proposed
landfill site in the Regional Park based on the objections stated.
(Motion carried 5-0).
8. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Oakdale Comprehensive Plan Amendments
City Engineer Bohrer reported that the City has been provided with
a copy of Oakdale's proposed comprehensive plan amendment. The
purpose of the Oakdale amendment is to update their Comprehensive
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Plan to the year 2000. In that regard they want the Metropolitan
Urban Service Area (MUSA) line to be extended east to include the
entire City. Oakdale's present MUSA line excludes Sewer Service
Districts 18, 19 and 12A. Districts 18 and 19 cannot be served
without constructing a new metropolitan interceptor sewer through
Woodbury and the central portions of Lake Elmo. The extension of
this interceptor sewer may force premature development in the
central portion of Lake Elmo along its route.
City Engineer Bohrer stated that it would be very unlikely that
Oakdale would be able to receive approval for revision of the MUSA
line to include Sewer Districts 18 and 19. In the past, the
Metropolitan Council would not allow MUSA line changes if it
requires extension of Metro facilities or if Oakdale still has a
five-year supply of vacant, developable land. In this case, both
criteria would be met and most likely Oakdale would not receive
approval. Realizing this the City of Oakdale has revised its
Comprehensive Plan Amendment to exclude Sewer Districts 18 and 19.
This should remove Lake Elmo's primary objection.
Sewer Districts 12 and 12A have service available today by means
of a sewage lift station on Stillwater Boulevard. This station
pumps to the WONE interceptor. If service becomes available
through central Lake Elmo, Oakdale would like to eliminate this
lift station.
Oakdale would also like to route Sewer District 13 through new
pipes to be constructed by Lake Elmo through Section 32. In this
way they could also eliminate two lift stations in this District.
This item is discussed, in more detail in Lake Elmo's Comprehensive
Sewer Plan.
The consensus of the Council was to defer their comments until
after the Improvement Hearing for Section 32-33 on February 25,
1986.
B. Section 32-33• Service Feasibility Study and
Comprehensive Sanitary Sewer Plan
A draft copy of the proposed Lake Elmo Comprehensive Sewer Plan
was included in the Council packets. City Engineer Bohrer stated
that the purpose of the Comprehensive Sewer Plan is to satisfy the
Metropolitan Agencies' requiremets to povide estimates of
anticipated sewage flows. In this way, the Metropolitan Agencies
can plan for any needed metropolitan sewers or sewage treatment.
In this case, the expansion of sanitray sewers into Lake Elmo will
have no affect on metropolitan facilities. A reserved capacity of
458,000 gallons/day has been set aside by the MWCC for Lake Elmo's
use. The Comprehensive Sewer Plan shows that this quantity will
not be exceeded.
Bohrer brought special attention to the Table of Projected Flow on
page 4 of the Plan. He assumed straight-line growth, beginning in
the year 1987, through the year 2000. At the year 2000 it is
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anticipated that Section 32 will reach its capacity sewage flow.
Bohrer also pointed out that this is equivalent- to a yearly
development of 27 acres.
City Engineer Bohrer stated that if Lake Elmo predicted that it
would not use all of its sewer allocation by the year 2000, the
Metropolitan Agencies may consider giving some of the sewer
allocation to another City which has already requested additional
capacity. On the other hand, if Lake Elmo showed that it would
need more capacity before the year 2000, it is unlikely this would
be approved.
After some discussion regarding the timing of the projected flows,
and the discussion on the pipe sizing tables in the back of the
report, the City Council approved the Comprehensive Sewer Plan
with the following change: "in the seventh sentence on page 2,
under the title "Background" the words 'year 2000 "and beyond"
should be added.
City Engineer Bohrer distributed the feasibility reports prepared
for the installation of sanitary sewers, water system and storm
drainage system for Section 32 and the South 1/2 of the Southwest
1/4 of Section 33. This review is in preparation for the public
hearing scheduled for February 25, 1986. The City Engineer
reviewed in detail the proposed improvements, the estimated cost,
and the recommended method of financing the project. He stated
that because of the extensive nature of the proposed improvements
and the complexity of the financing plan, he could have several
copies of the feasibility report made available for area
residents.
C. 1985 Municipal State Aid Project Update
The 1985 MSA Project list included the upgrading of Lower 33rd
Street from Klondike Avenue to Lake Elmo Avenue. As the road is
bounded on its north side by the C&NW railroad tracks and private
right-of-way on the south side, there is not sufficient land along
the corridor to obtain the amount of right-of-way required by
State standards. To obtain the additional right-of-way, it would
be necessary to acquire the Joshua Taylor commercial building and
one house. It would also make another house severely
non -conforming for the front yard setback.
The City requested a variance from the road right-of-way
requirement. In a letter from Transportation Commissioner Braun,
it was stated that the variance request was denied because of the
restricted sight distance at the intersection of Lower 33rd Street
and Lake Elmo Avenue caused by the location of the Taylor
Building.
City Engineer Bohrer stated three options in his letter to the
City Council dated February 13, 1986.
1. Discontinue consideration of improving Lower 33rd Street
with State aid funds. Consider improving Laverne Avenue from
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Upper 33rd Street to TH5, which is the next priority in
the 10-year plan.
2. Have the Taylor Building appraised and try to negotiate a
lower price with Mr. Hagstrom. State aid funds can be used
for the land and building purchase.
3. Do nothing. However, the City is allowed to accumulate only
2 years of State Aid allotments before its needs are reduced
by the amount of unused funds. The City's fund will exceed
this two-year allotment amount in 1987 and will begin to be
reduced unless it has a project in the works for 1987.
Hugh Madson recommended looking at acquiring property and
rerouting the easterly portion of Lower 33rd Street south of the
Joshua Taylor building and vacating the unused portion of Lower
33rd Street.
City Engineer Bohrer will look into this suggestion and will
report back at a later meeting.
D. Bellaire Sanitation - Request for variance from spring
road weight restrictions.
This request came before the City Council at its last Council
meeting, and it was tabled until more information could be
obtained
City Engineer Bohrer contacted the County and found out they do
not give out any exemptions on county roads. In the past the City
has exempted septic haulers so Bellaire has never had a reason to
come in and request a variance. City Administrator Overby pointed
out that if you give an exemption to a certain tonnage level, it
doesn't apply just.to Bellaire, but would apply to other haulers
on those particular roads.
City Engineer Bohrer asked if the City has the authority to exempt
certain vehicles because they do have the authority to post and
restd_ct the roads. Then, the only statutory exemption is given to
school buses which is 7 tons per axle. Traditional restrictions
are on from March 21 through May 15, 1986.
M/S/F Armstrong/Dunn - to deny a variance request from Bellaire
Sanitation from spring road weight restrictions. (Motion failed
2-3<Morgan, Mazzara, Christ>).
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to table this request until the next City
Council meeting or until additional information on how it was
handled in the past 9.s considered. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Office Space Project - Update
On February 13, 1986, City Administrator Overby, City Engineer
Bohrer and an architect from TKDA met to discuss the proposed
office project and tour the Lake Elmo State Bank facility which
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may become available to the City Council. Bohrer's observations
are stated in his letter dated February 18, 1986.
The bank must decide by October 31, 1986 whether to use the
State's allocation of bonding authority to the Washington County
Housing and Redevelopment Authority which was reserved for it.
They have estimated a minimum of 18 to 24 months from now to
vacate the present building. Therefore, the building may be
available by February, 1988. The building appears to be well
suited for City Hall use, wth some remodeling.
The City presently leases 2,380 sq.ft. for City offices. A new
building must have at least 3,100 sq.ft. to equal what the City
now leases. An estimate for such a facility is $255,000.
City Engineer Bohrer understands that the City has approximately
$139,000 invested reserves which could be used for this project.
Since the money available is less than the money required, a bond
referendum will be needed. A bond referendum will have an impact
on the project schedule. Requirements for a referendum will be
looked into by the City Attorney.
The following actions were asked to be considered by the City
Engineer.
1. Negotiate a one-year extension of the present lease now
for the period February 1, 1987 to February 1, 1988.
2. Ask the Bank to have a building appraisal done so that
the City can evaluate the "buy and remodel" alternative.
3. A new building should be planned to met the City's need
for 15-20 years and a building budget of $300,000 may
be more realistic.
City Attorney Knaak indicated that it was acceptable to trade park
land for farm land owned by Mr. Friedrich.
Councilmen Christ and Dunn brought up questions as to whether the
sewer system is adequate at the bank and would the total cost of
purchasing the bank building be too high.
Mayor Morgan suggested the City Council review the office space
recommendations and the City Engineer's recommendation.
F. Proposed Metro Waste Control Commission Rate Changes
The MWCC has proposed changes in the Rate Schedule for Sewage
Treatment Users and the Sewer Availability Charge (SAC) for
potential users and sewer service. These proposed MWCC rate
changes are commented on in City Engineer's Bohrer letter dated
February 11, 1986 to City Administrator Overby.
The consensus of the City Council was that the increase in the
rates were too high and City Administrator Overby will check into
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this further.
G. School Crossing Update
At the January 21, 1986 City Council meeting the Council approved
spending up to $2,000 in City funds in participation with the
school district to install a flashing light at the school crossing
and to negotiate the electricity costs for operation of the light
with the school district.
City Administrator Overby advised the Council that the District
834 School Board approved the request from the City for $2,000 to
help offset the local costs for this flashing signal light on
Highway 5 near the elementary school.
9. FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
A. 1985 Annual Report
Fire Chief Fran Pott presented the 1985 Lake Elmo Fire Department
Annual Report. Chief Pott indicated that the department is an
enthusiastic, well trained and a properly equipped department that
is ready and qualified to deal with the emergency fire and rescue
calls in the City. During 1985, the 18-member Department has had
excellent support from the City and the community for its official
and social functions and are committed to doing their part to
maintain that environment in 1986.
In 1985 the Fire Department responded to 108 rescue calls and 63
fire calls with a fire loss of $65,890. Of these losses, $36,610
were from 12 cars that were valued at $350 to $9,850, a
garage-$14,940, a restaurant-$9,225, a lawn tractor-$3,000 and
miscellaneous losses at $2,115.
Mayor Morgan and the Council commended Chief Pott and the
department for a job well done.
10. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Bids received on dump truck, underbody plow, sander,
and reversible snow plow.
Review of bids was tabled until the March 4th City Council
meeting.
B. Maintenance Department Equipment Needs - Dan Olinger
Maintenance Foreman Dan Olinger had discussed a need for having an
air compressor unit and air hammer. The City Council suggested
tabling this issue until more detailed cost comparisons could be
provided.
C. Insurance Coverage
The City Council reviewed the quotes on the renewal of insurance
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coverage that the City has with the League of Minnesota Cities
Insurance Trust.
The General Liability coverage (on City land, building, equipment,
etc.) increased 240% from last year's premium of $9,423 to this
years premium of $22,650. The "Umbrella" coverage which provides
$1,000,000 in excess liability coverage increased 800 percent from
$1,550 last year to $12,414 this year.
City Administrator Overby had talked to the League of Cities staff
about the situation and their response was "you can either pay the
premiums for the available coverage or risk not having insurance
for some areas of City operations."
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn - to accept the quote for the General
Liability insurance. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to accept the quote for the "Umbrella"
coverage. (Motion carried 3-2<Dunn, Morgany) .
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to extend the City Council meeting until 11:00
p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
D. Governor's Budget Cuts - Reduction in Local Government
Aids and Homestead Credits
This was an informational item for the City Council.
10. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Respect for Lake Elmo Citizen's Privacy
Mayor Morgan proposed a resolution reprimanding Councilman Mazzara
for the way he brought up the alleged code violations on the Tom
Armstrong property, but no action was taken on this resolution.
Mayor Morgan stated that the most blatant abuse of an elected
official's power is to invade the privacy of an individual
citizen. We have had many situations in the City and have handled
them administratively. Regardless of how you feel on an issue, it
is improper to call a reporter and to read an indictment against a
citizen without following the administrative and legal procedures.
Councilman Mazzara believes that this was a proper way of bringing
up a concern on a code violation for discussion purposes. It was
not handled administratively. I tried to address the issue and
unfortunately had no response from any of the City Councilmembers.
I still feel this concern has to be addressed instead of changing
the code. This may also be the first time that a resolution has
been put together to publicly reprimand any City Councilmember for
doing his job.
Fred Nazarian brought up the Leroy Rossow situation which was
brought before the Council in exactly the same way: he built a
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commercial business in his Rl zoning and was forced to tear down
his building. Mayor Morgan stated that the Rossow situation was
handled administratively and. legally.
John Schiltz asked why he pays commercial taxes to run a
commercial busiess and other people can pay Ag Preserve taxes to
run their business. Councilwoman Armstrong stated that the people
that put together the Ag Preserve Act had other uses in mind that
people could do on their farms while they were maintaining their
land.
Councilman Christ stated that on more than one occasion the City
Attorney had said that it is not a code violation.
City Attorney Knaak advised that there is no code violation. In
this instance I was asked to do an analysis and opinion with the
facts I had on hand with those presumptions, if in effect. The
code states that if there is a previous existing use (which I saw
no evidence to indicate that there was not), then that is an
allowed use and it is grandfathered in. If it is a common
practice for other people to use farm buildings for similar
purposes and it was argued that it was, and I saw evidence to
suggest that it was, and again the presumptions are in effect,
then I have to say that it is an allowed use.
City Attorney Knaak advised the Council that he has discussed this
with City Administrator Overby and has since worked out some
language which would require an annual review for these kind of
uses. As the code is currently worded, this is an allowed use
with the facts that we got,. If you don't like it, change the
code.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ -• to adjourn the City Council meeting at 11:05
p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).