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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
MARCH 24, 1986
Mayor Morgan called the City Council meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
in the City Council chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn, Christ,
City Administrator Overby, City Engineer Bohrer, and City Attorney
Knaak. Absent: Mazzara
1. Agenda
Add: 7E. Beeman House Report, 7F. Dog Ordinance
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to approve the agenda for the March 24,
1986 City Council meeting as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Minutes: March 4, 1986
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn - to approve the March 4, 1986 City Council
minutes as presented. (Motion carried 4-0).
3. Claims
Councilman Dunn questionned under TKDA-General Contracting whether
Schafer Contracting Fill Permit No. 2 was a pass thru expense.
Councilwoman Armstrong felt that the Sec. 32 & 33 expenses of
$2,283.46 should be paid out of the sewer fund.
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn - to approve the March 24, 1986 Claims #87142
thru #87207 as presented excluding #87148. (Motion carried 4-0).
4. Public Inquiries
Mary Leslie, 11546 20th Street, stated she is frustrated that the
drainage system is takin such a long time getting started and
could the DNR beef assisTance. The letter brought up her concerns
on the elevation of Long Lake, the water storage sites and the
unnecessary pipe requested in the 509 Plan. She further stated
that she is opposed to the 509 Plan because there are unnecessary
things in the plan. She does not want the taxpayers to pay 4
million dollars for a drainage plan that might not work. She
pointed out that there is not an outlet to the St. Croix and the
VBWD plan as it exists today is to drain into the St. Croix. She
also has concerns about the purity of the water that flows through
Lake Elmo and into Horseshoe Lake.
5. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. Public Hearing : Variances related to a simple lot
subdivision and preliminary plat, Ken Sovereign,
4415 Olson Lake Trail N.
Ken Sovereign, the applicant, has requested that the City Council
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table the public hearing until the April 15, 1986 meeting so he
can be present at that time. City Administrator pointed out that
the Council could not take action on this application after the
development moratorium takes effect on April 2, 1986 --unless the
Council would decide to make an exception to the interim
ordinance. Bruce Folz indicated that Ken Sovereign had suggested
delaying this request because he will be out-of-town.
M/S/P Morgan/Christ - to table the application from Ken Sovereign,
4415 Olson Lake Trail N., for a simple lot subdivision and
preliminary plat until after the six month moratorium. (Motion
carried 4-0).
B. Final Plat Approval: Lake Elmo Heights
The preliminary plat for Lake Elmo Heights has been reviewed and
approved by the City Council. On March 10, 1986 the Planning
Commission recommended approval of the Final Plat contingent upon
the drainage question being resolved as part of the developer's
agreement.
M/S/P Christ/Dunn - to adopt Resolution 86-22 for approval of a
Final, plat for Lake Elmo Heights, Phase I; contingent upon
the drainage questions being resolved as part of the developer's
agreement with the City, and payment of parks donation fees of
$250 per lot, and meeting the minimum building elevations set
forth in the VBWD permit. (Motion carried 4-0).
C. Adoption of Interim Ordinance for a Moratorium
on Development
At the March 4, 1986 meeting, the City Council directed the staff
to prepare a draft of the interim ordinance for adoption. City
Attorney Knaak handed out copies of the ordinance to the City
Council.
Larry Berg, 1100 International Center, representing Erickson's
Diversified Corporation and Carl Dale, Planner for the I-94
Investment Company explained that they have creative ideas for a
rural service area and would like to continue with this
development but cannot because of the moratorium. They requested
if "preliminary" could be excluded out of the moratorium
ordinance. The Council denied this request, but stated the Council
would be open to further discussion of their plans.
Mayor Morgan felt that six months was not a long time to wait and
Councilman Dunn expressed concern if this project is rejected down
the road.
M/S/P Morgan/Armstrong - to adopt Ordinance 07976 amending
Section 301 of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code, relating to zoning
and regulating, for an interim period of six months from the date
of publication, the approval of land subdivision, plats and
planned unit development. (Motion carried 4-0).
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D. Public Hearing : Variance related to a simple lot
subdivision -Matt Northrup, 3200 Lake Elmo Avenue.
Mayor Morgan opened up the public hearing at 8:04 p.m. in the City
Council chambers.
Mrs. Constance K. Smith proposed to subdivide her 5.9 acre parcel
at 3200 Lake Elmo Avenue into two lots. Since the property was
previously platted as Lake Elmo Park, it can be divided by a
Simple Lot Subdivision. The property also abuts Lake Elmo, which
means shoreland regulations apply. Two variances will be
necessary - variance for lot size of 1.12 acres where 1.5 acres is
required, and the lot width of 55 feet where 150 feet is required.
Also, the City Code requires that a hardship on the land must be
demonstrated in granting variances.
Matt Northrup explained that these are the last lots on Lake Elmo
that can be subdivided and no other lots on this lake could come
as near to meeting the code as they are proposing. Kromschroder
was given a variance for less than an acre and they are on the
flood plain. Northrup quoted out of the code that a literal
interpretation of the provisions of the ordinance would deprive
the applicant from rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in
the same district. He pointed out that to the west all the lots
are between 45 to 65 feet in width. The hardship is that we have
a pie shaped lot and are taking a pie shaped piece off of it.
City Enginner Bohrer clarified that Kromschroder's parcel was
platted in 1978 and the lot size is two acres of which one acre is
above the normal ordinary high water mark. The only variance they
received was a setback variance of 65 feet where 75 feet is
required for the alternate drainfield site.
Councilman Dunn brought up that
lot frontage can be met by just
also said if you have less than
prove a hardship.
both the lot size and shoreland
simply changing the lot lines. He
the required lot size you have to
Northrup stated that the city code requirement for shoreland lot
frontage is a lot width of 150 feet at the widest part of the
property and it does not say on the lake. We did meet that
requirement when we had proposed 1.5 acres, but the Planning
Commission requested cleaner lot lines. He further stated that
Molly Comeau from the DNR had no major concerns over the proposed
subdivision, since there is adequate area to meet the structure
and septic system setbacks.
Richard Miller, neighbor to the westside - I understand and am in
agreement with the Northrup proposal because it does keep the
proportions with the rest of the big house and it would be nice to
keep the option open of another lot and lake frontage.
Peter Banister, 3150 Lake Elmo Avenue - I feel to divide the land
any other way would spoil this parcel of land. The Council should
go out to the property and look at the layout of the land.
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Hugh Madson, 11060 32nd St. - I am in favor of this subdivision
and if you look at the original plan you will see that it was
already laid out for Lot 3 and Lot 4.
Councilwoman Armstrong asked if they split this parcel into three
parcels, could two lots have frontage to the lake and the third
have an easement to the lake. Mayor Morgan explained to the
Northrups that we want to help you put three lots on this parcel
without breaking the City ordinances and we have to have a reason
to give you a variance. He suggested they divide the lot
differently, put three houses on it, make a common access to the
lake and keep all the lake frontage in the mother's name.
City Attorney Knaak advised that when you have a lot greater than
minimum required by the City code and seek to divide that, the
shape that results cannot be used as an argumant for a hardship it
is considered a self-created hardship. He recommends staying
within the acreage of the code. This application can be acted upon
but the moratorium will go into effect upon publication of the
ordinance.
Councilman Dunn suggests that this entire subdivision be submitted
at once to see what can be done with lot lines in conjunction with
other lot lines to make it easier to deal with variances.
Mayor Morgan asked the Northrups to consider moving the lot line
back and get an easement from Mrs. Constance Smith for the two
lots, if another lot is going to be built in there, and make this
a common access lot for both of those lots. This plan would be
closer to our City Codes and the DNR requirements.
Mayor Morgan closed the public hearing at 9:03 p.m.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to table the simple lot subdivision request by
Northrup/Smith until the next City Council meeting in order to
give the applicants time to discuss their plans. (Motion carried
4-0).
E. Public Hearing : Variance request by James Brockman
to allow temporary storage of commercially licensed
trailers in an RR district.
Mayor Morgan opened up the public hearing at 9:08 p.m. in the City
Council chambers.
James Brockman, Brockman Trucking Inc., has requested a variance
to allow storage of a maximum of 50 empty semi -trailers on the
Brockman property. It is claimed there will be no everyday
traffic, as trucks will come and go once or twice a week. They
will upgrade with a little gravel. The requested variance is
proposed to be temporary until land can be purchased for a
permanent site. The hardship being the six month development
moratorium.
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Bob Dreher expressed no problems with this temporary variance as
long as it lasts from six months to up to a year and limits it to
50 trailers. He did have concern regarding the wetness of the
land and how much improvement Brockman would have to do to the
land.
Mayor Morgan closed the public hearing at 9:18 p.m.
M/S/P Morgan/Christ - to approve a special use permit requested by
James Brockman to allow storage for a maximum of 50 empty
semi -trailers on the Brockman Property, for a period of six months
with a minimum environmental change be afflicted to the land.
(Motion carried 4-0).
6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. City Office Building Project
TKDA Architect Bill Armstrong presented a city office concept plan
which included the site and floor plan and exterior building
elevations. The proposed City hall consists of 3,230 sq.ft.
The concept plan met with City Council approval. Councilman Christ
will join the Building Committee to work out the details. Steve
Delapp, architect and Lake Elmo resident, expressed his interest
to volunteer his expertise.
City Administrator Overby handed out financing options to be
considered by the City Council.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to approve the conceptual plan presented by
TKDA Architect Bill Armstrong and recommend that the Building
Committee proceed with working out the details. (Motion carried
4-0).
B. Comprehensive Sewer Plan - Consider resolution for
plan approval.
This item was presented and discussed at the Improvement Hearing
for Sanitary Sewer, Water andStorm Dra-inage Facilities in Section
32-33.
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to adopt Resolution 86-23 approving the
adoption and submission of the Comprehensive Sewer Plan in
Section 32-33 to the Metro Waste Control Commission for their
review and approval. (Motion carried 4-0).
C. Cost Estimate of Oakdale Water for Section 32-33.
City Engineer Bohrer reported that at the time the public hearings
were held on the Section 32 improvements, the City of Oakdale had
not provided us with the information necessary to evaluate
obtaining water from Oakdale. We have now had discussion with
Oakdale's staff and have prepared a supplementary report. This
report should be inserted in your copy of the original feasibility
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report dated February 12, 1986.
This supplementary report shows that although an Oakdale supply is
feasible, it is 25% more costly than a Lake Elmo supply due to
Oakdale's connection charge. It is recommended that the Oakdale
supply no longer be considered unless Oakdale would reduce the
connection charge. These reports will be sent out to the Section
32-33 landowners.
7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Review bids on purchase of new dump truck,
underbody plow, sander, and reversible
snow plow.
The following bids have been accepted: Lakeland Ford dump truck
(with J-Craft Body) $41,204.00, Ruffridge-Johnson (underbody
blade) $2,384.75, Little Falls Machine (reversible plow PR1143
with #21 hitch) $3,895.00 and sander (Falls model 2AS) $1,700.00.
The 1979 Ford truck will be advertised for sale.
M/S/P Morgan/Christ - to accept the above bids for the new dump
truck, underbody plow, sander and reversible snow plow and to sell
the old 1979 Ford truck. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. Review bids on sale of old copier machine.
The City has received on sealed bid for the old Savin 770 copier
machine in the amount of $1181.99 fom Ron Nelson at 4565 Olson Lake
Trail. Mr. Nelson will be given the option to purchase our
remaining stock of paper and chemicals for an additional cost.
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to accept the bid of $481.99 from Ron Nelson
at 4565 Olson Lake Trail for the old Savin 770 copier machine.
(Motion carried 4-0).
C. Review 1986 Police Service Contract
The City has received good service and excellent cooperation from
Gary Swanson and Jim Feur. The total package overall cost
increase amounts to $1,548.93 more in 1986 compared to 1985. This
is a 3.42 percent increase overall.
M/S/P Dunn/Morgan - to approve the 1986 Police Service Contract
with Washington County. (Motion carried 4-0).
D. 1986 Board of Review
The City Council received reports for the 1986 Board of Review
which is scheduled for May 14th, 1986. Mayor Morgan brought up
that Lake ELmo has the lowest mill rate compared to any of the
major cities.
E. Beeman House Report
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Councilwoman Armstrong attended the quarterly meeting of the
Advisory Board of the Beeman House. Helen Raleigh is now the
Program Director and they have twelve residents and none are
chemically or alcohol dependent.
F. Dog Ordinance
Mayor Morgan brought up that our dog catcher does an admirable
job, but there seems to be an awful lot of dogs running around.
It was suggested that an article be put in the Newsletter with the
information that we do have a leash law and people should keep
their dogs leashed or fenced.
M/S/P Dunn/Christ - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 10:20
p.m. (Motion carried 4-0).
Resolution 86-22 - approving Lake Elmo Helights Preliminary Plat
Phase I
Resolution 86-23 - approving the adoption and submission of the
Comprehensive Sewer Plan in Section 32-33 to
to the P4etro Waste Control Commission for
their review and approval
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may
seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information
is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from
City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also
have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
MONDAY, March 24, 1986
7:00 p.m. Meeting Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: March 4, 1986
3. Claims
4. Public Inquiries
5. PLANNING AND LAND USE
7:30 p.m. A. Public Hearing : Variances related to a
simple lot subdivision and preliminary plat,
Ken Sovereign, 4415 Olson Lake Trail N.
NOTE: The applicant has requested that the
hearing be tabled until the 4-15-86 Council
meeting.
7:35 p.m. B. Final Plat Approval: Lake Elmo Heights
C. Adoption of Interim Ordinance for a
Moratorium on Development
8:00 p.m. D. Public Hearing : Variances related to a
simple lot subdivision - Matt Northrup,
3200 Lake Elmo Avenue
8:30 p.m. E. Public Hearing : Variance request by
James Brockman to allow temporary storage
of commercially licensed trailers in an
RR district.
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9:00 p.m. 6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. City Office Building Project
B. Comprehensive Sewer Plan - Consider
resolution for plan approval
C. Cost Estimate of Oakdale Water for
Section 32-33.
7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Review bids on purchase of new dump truck,
underbody plow, sander, and reversible
snow plow.
B. Review bids on sale of old copier machine
C. Review 1986 Police Service Contract
D. 1986 Board of Review
8. Adjourn