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AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
April 1, 1986
7:00 p.m. Meeting Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: March 24, 1986
3. Claims
4. Public Inquiries
7:15 P.M. 5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Acceptance of Brookfield Company land offer.
B. Building Committee Update
7:30 p.m. 6. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. Request or S mple Lot Subdivision and
Shoreland Ordinance Variance - Matt Northrup
and Constance Smith
(Tabled from the Council meeting of 3-24-86).
7:45 p.m. 7. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. County Road 1 BB
1. Request by Washington County for City
Cooperation on Local Assessments.
2. Review of DNR Permit request by
Washington County to allow placement of
fill material in Goose Lake.
B. 201 Program
1. Update on program schedule
2. Review of bids for easement appraisals
C. Lower 33rd Street - Update on the feasibility
of an alternate route at the junction with
Lake Elmo Avenue.
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Update - Manning Avenue Maintenance Agreement
9. Adjourn
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Vice -Mayor Christ called the City Council meeting to order at 7:04
p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn,
Mazzara, City Administrator Overby, City Engineer Bohrer and City
Attorney Knaak. Absent: Morgan
1. Agenda
Add: 8B. Composting Site, 8C. Sanitary Water Supply and 9. City
Attorney's Report.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to approve the agenda for the April 1, 1986
City Council meeting as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Minutes: March 24, 1986
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn - to approve the March 24, 1986 City Council
minutes as amended. (Motion carried 3-0-1<abstain: Mazzara>).
3. Claims
Councilwoman Armstrong suggested refraining from paying #87221
$325.00 Pitney Bowes - copy machine supplies until more
information has been received. City Administrator Overby is
discussing other options with Pitney Bowes. The County has made
available the option of doing purchasing with them and this might
offer a cost savings.
M/S/P Mazzara/Dunn - to approve the April 1, 1986 Claims #87208
thru #87239 as presented, excluding #87221. (Motion carried 4-0).
4. Public Inquiries
There were no public inquiries.
5. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Acceptance of Brookfield Company land offer.
At the March 4, 1986 Council meeting, Kelly Brookman and Don
Raleigh offered to donate a 1.5 acres lot to be used as the new
City Hall site. The two conditions on the quit claim deed were:
(1) that the City must start construction of the new City Hall by
November 1, 1987. (2) the City use this property for a City Hall
for at least fifteen years. A third condition was considered
allowing them architectual review on the proposed City Hall, but
changed their mind to wanting an opportunity to review the concept
plans and offer their comments. Also mentioned was the real
estate taxes which will be payable during the year of 1986 (in the
approximate amount of $1,400.00) would have to be paid by the City
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unless the County will grant an abatement.
Councilman Dunn suggested that the City Attorney review this deed
from a legal standpoint and have the City Administrator find out
what would it take for the County to grant an abatement. Knaak
advised that he had no problem with the deed apart from the
understanding that once the conditions are fulfilled that they
would be willing to issue a warranty deed.
A thank you letter will be written to the Brookfield Company on
behalf of the Mayor and City Council.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to adopt Resolution 86-24 accepting the 1.5
acre donated by the Brookfield Company for constructon of a new
City hall with the three conditions set forth and with a request
for a warranty deed. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. Building Committee Update
The Building Committee met with TKDA Architect Bill Armstrong to
discuss the construction plans. Building plans and specfications
must be completed by an architect licensed by the State of
Minnesota, and these final plans will be ready for the first
council meeting in May with construction starting in May.
Councilman Christ handed out a report outlining the objectives and
goals of the City. This was a guide that identified some of the
critical steps; manpower requirements, materials and supplies that
might be needed, some community resources, a list of several
anticipated problems and possible solutions, and a proposed
budget.
It was pointed out by Christ that the ultimate goal to be
accomplished by the City in undertaking this project will be the
long range cost benefits to the taxpayers by the construction of
an efficient, but modest structure that stays within the budget
already allotted. It would benefit the entire community to rally
behind the continuing efforts to keep city government costs down
while still providing quality community services. Volunteer
efforts can and will instill a pride of accomplishment on the part
of community residents, but most importantly will ensure that
local city government costs are kept to a minimum.
Councilwoman Armstrong stated that she wholeheartedly approves of
this idea of using volunteers to help build a City hall. The City
cannot afford a $300,000 building because we do not want to raise
the mill rate. Ownership is the key word. People who help with
this partly own it and are proud of this City and what we can do.
City Engineer Bohrer reported that there was a walk -over
inspection of the site, and it appeared that the site was narrower
than he thought. Because of this, they oriented the building in
an east -west direction rather than north- south as originally
anticipated. The topographic survey found that the actual
property line is about in the middle of the blacktop access drive
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as opposed to the south edge of the blacktop. Bohrer is trying to
secure the pert tests and soil borings from Dave Loos.
The building committee felt that we should move ahead with final
plans and specifications, so they asked TKDA to prepare an
authorization for the design services, plans and specifications.
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to adopt Resolution 86-31 authorizing the
Mayor and City Council to enter into an agreement with TKDA for
architectual and engineering services for the City Hall and
Council Chambers. (Motion carried 4-0).
6. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A.- Request for Simple Lot Subdivision and Shoreland
Ordinance Variance - Matt Northrup and
Constance Smith.
(Tabled from the Council meeting of 3-24-86).
M/S/P Christ/Dunn - to remove from the table the request for a
Simple Lot Subdivision from Matt Northrup and Constance Smith.
(Motion carried 4-0).
The applicants have changed the lot size back to the original 1.52
acre lot size as shown on the certificate of survey. They also
showed a concept plan for a third lot to be subdivided in the
future. With the application as now presented, only the variance
to Shoreland Regulations for lot width is necessary.
Matt Northrup explained that these are the last lots on Lake Elmo
that can be subdivided and no other lots on this lake could come
as near to meeting the code as they are proposing. He also
pointed out that to the west all the lots are between 45 to 65
feet in width. The harship they believe is that they have a pie
shaped lot and are taking a pie shaped piece off of it. Also,
Northrup stated that Molly Comeau from the DNR had stated that she
had no major concerns over the proposed subdivision, since there
is adequate area to meet the structure and septic system setbacks.
Councilwoman Armstrong explained that the map you are coming in
with in front of the Council is an entirely different situation.
Before you were asking us to divide from one piece of land to make
two pieces of property and asking us for a hardship on this very
small piece of land when you have so much land left over. We
could not grant a hardship to someone who has all this excess land
for shoreland frontage and acreage on two pieces. However, when
you come to us asking to divide into three pieces that makes all
the difference. Mr. Northrup answered that this is what we were
trying to do at the last Council meeting, but it was their
failure.
City Engineer Bohrer explained that the problem is the ordinance
does not spell out where the 150 feet of lot width is to be
measured so it is somewhat up to interpretation. The intent of
the original state shoreland management act is to regulate the
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intensity of development on the shoreline.
City Attorney Knaak explained that the applicants are not bound by
their proposal in the future and what you should be focusing on is
what was heard at the last City Council meeting.
Councilman Dunn stated that on a "pie shaped" lot it is difficult
to get the 150 feet of shoreland and with the problem of how this
ordinance could be interpretated, this could be a valid hardship.
Councilman Christ felt that the hardship is the irregular shape of
the parcel.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to adopt Resolution 86-25 to grant a simple
lot subdivision in accordance with the certificate of survey dated
October 10, 1985 and a shoreland variance to Constance Smith at
3200 Lake ELmo Avenue. (Motion carried 3-1<Armstrong>)
7. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. County Road 19B
Request by Washington County for City Cooperation
on Local Assessments
Washington County Engineer, Dick Herold appeared before the
council to again request that the City participate with the County
in assessing the property owners a portion of the construction
costs relating to the County Road 19B improvements. The City was
given the option of joining with the County on a joint project in
making these assessments, or pass a resolution allowing the County
to assess these costs.
Mr. Herold suggested establishing an assessment rate that would be
equivalent to a standard City street. Federal Land Development
Company, Durow, Colon, Hammes, and Dayton Development Company abut
the project. Iie further stated that the County is proposing to
assess only Federal Land Development Company, Colon and Durow;
Dayton does not benefit and Hammes is exempt due to prior
right-of-way acquisition agreements.
Councilman Dunn responded that he felt the road is going in
primarily for the regional park. While there may be benefits down
the road for the adjacent property owners, it is nothing more than
a return on the taxes these property owners have paid over the
years. He did not see where the property owners are going to get
anything out of this over and above what they are entitled to. He
felt that when you make assessments like this, you are forcing
premature development which is not the intent of the present City
Council.
Herold responded that the road will benefit the regional park, but
the potential park traffic will be a very minor part of the
traffic pattern that he feels will be seen in this area.
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Councilmember Mazzara stated that regardless of
encourage development or assessments encourage
putting in the road does encourage development,
assessed.
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whether roads
development, if
it should be
Councilmember Christ stated that to categorically say yes or no at
this time would be impossible, but if the assessment could be kept
reasonable and if it could be proven that there is an improvement
in value to the property owners, a reasonable proposal would be
acceptable.
M/S/F Dunn/Armstrong - to not concur with Washington County to
assess the County Road 19B improvements to the benefited property
owners. (Motion failed 2-2<Christ, Mazzara>)
2. Review of DNR Permit request by Washington County to
allow placement of fill material in Goose Lake
The City Council reviewed the correspondence of the City Engineer
datW March 19, 1986. Mr. Herold assured the City that the City's
concerns for silt fence along the water's edge to prevent
sediments from entering into the lake and also performance
srandard for turf establishment, have been incorporated into the
County's plans and specifications.
M/S/P Mazzara/Dunn - to direct the City Engineer to respond to the
DNR that the City's concerns have been met. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. 201 Program
1. Update on program schedule
City Engineer Bohrer distributed the project schedule, dated
February 27, 1986. He stated that, due to about 20 individuals
failing to return their access agreements and 6 individuals who
have now asked to be withdrawn from the project, these two actions
have now put back the project schedule betwen two and four weeks.
Bohrer stated that he will seek MPCA approval to advertise for
bids even though 20 agreements are still outstanding.
2. Review of bids for easement appraisals
City Engineer Bohorer stated that proposals were received on March
26, 1986, for the work that needsto be done to acquire seven sites
for joint drainfields and ei3ht utility easements. Three bids
were received within the timeallotted, with Frank Langer
submitting the4bwest bid.
There was some discussion regarding the fact that it was not clear
from Mr. Langer's proposal whether the fee quoted was for all of
the thirteen sites or each of the thirteen sites. The Council had
determined that even if the fee were for thirteen individual
sites, he would still be the low bidder.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to accept the low bid from Frank Langer and
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instruct the City Engineer and City Administrator to work out any
details with Mr. Langer. (Motion carried 4-0).
C. Lower 33rd Street - Update on the feasibility of an
alternate route at the junction with Lake Elmo Avenue
At a previous City Council meeting, the Council instructed City
Engineer Bohrer to evaluate the feasibility of an alternate route
at the junction with Lake Elmo Avenue being located south of the
Joshua Taylor building. Bohrer showed a concept plan that
indicated it was feasible, from a road geometric standpoint, to
pass south of the Joshua Taylor building. He further reported
that he had reviewed the concept with Bob Hagstrom, owner of the
property, and Mr. Hagstrom is evaluating the proposal.
If this is acceptable to Mr. Hagstrom, the design will be reviewed
by MnDOT to make sure that State Aid Standards could be met and
then return to the City Council for authorization to have the
property appraised. Bohrer will report back at a later meeting
when progress is made on the project.
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Update - Manning Avenue Maintnenace Agreement
City Administrator Overby has met with Charlotte Kirby, Baytown
Clerk, to discuss how this dispute might be resolved. Baytown's
position remains basically the same. They feel that Manning
Avenue from 55th Street to TH365 is a "town line road" dividing
the township and the City. Accordingly, theyfeel that a 50-50
cost split is equitable.
The City Administrator will discuss the possibility of trading
services, Lake Elmo would do the grading if Baytown would do the
snowplowing.
B. Composting Site
Rick Grooms has notified the staff that the compost site at 4259
Jamaca Ave. N. will be opened April 19 thru May 18, 1986,
Wednesdays 12:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. and Saturdays and Sunday 9:00
a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Boy Scout Troop Leader, Dave Olson, will be
asked if his troop is interested in working these weekends as they
did last year.
C. County Water Supply
Councilman Christ handed out to the City Council a Residential.
Water Quality Summary. The Council will review this and it will
be discussed at the April 15, 1986 City Council meeting.
9. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
City Attorney passed out a letter from Attorney Richard M. Arney
in which he is proposing a settlement of the dispute of Alford,
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Berube vs. the City of Lake ELmo. Mr. Alford is asking the City
to consider favorably a variance and building permit for a summer
cottage of a smaller size with suitable set back variances and
variances for a self-contained septic system of the pump variety.
City Attorney Knaak recommended that the City Council not accept
this settlement offer under the circumstances because this was
fought on the fact for the purpose of strictly enforcing the code.
The City Council has taken a tough stand and we might be
establishing a precident.
The City Council will leave this as an agenda item for the next
meeting. There is need to get more information from Alford for
the City Engineer's consideration.
M/S/P Armstrong/Mazzara - to adjourn the City Council meeting at
10:15 p.m. (Motion carried 4-0).
Resolution 86-24 - Accept the 1.5 acre donated by the Brookfield Co.
for construction of a new City Hall with the
three conditions set forth and with a request
for a warranty deed.
Resolution 86-25 - granting a simple lot subdivision and a shoreland
variance to Constance Smith at 3200 Lake Elmo Ave.
Resolution 86-31 - authorizing the Mayor and City Council to enter
into an agreement with TKDA for architectual
& engineering services for the City Hall and
Council Chambers