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AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
JULY 1, 1986
Meeting Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: June 3, 1986
3. Claims
4. Public Inquiries
5. Requests for Variance from Development Moratorium
A. Cindy Stover - Edina Realty
B. David Zimmerhakl
C. Raymond Mester
D. Brookman Second Addition (Bank Project)
6. Public Hearing : Shoreland Permit and Variances
Maurice McCollar, 8034 Hill Trail North
V. Shoreland Permit: Jeff Nelson, 8012 Hill Trail N.
8. Shoreland Permit: Thomas Mechelke, Lot 1 Block 4
Foxfire Estates
9. Public Hearing : Proposed Amendments to Charitable
Gambling Ordinance
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10. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
A. Water Safety on Lake Elmo
11. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Derrick Land Company:
Results of Percolation Tests
B. Sunfish Lake Pumping
C. Water Problems on Lake Jane, Legion Pond
D. Petition for Street Vacation: Unpaved,
westerly 200 feet of Jane Road North
E. City Well Maintenance Situation
12. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Fire Department CIP and 1963 Scout
B. Maintenance Personnel Evaluation &
Salary Increase
C. City Assessor Contract
D. Joint City Council -Planning Commission
Meeting
13. Adjourn
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JULY 1, 1986
Mayor Morgan called the City Council meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
in the City Council chambers. Present: Armstrong, Dunn, Mazzara,
Christ, City Administrator Overby, City Engineer Bohrer and City
Attorney Knaak,
1. Agenda
Add: 12E. City Office Building, 12F. Reid Park, 12G. Composting
Contract
M/S/P Armstrong/Dunn
City Council meeting
- to approve
as
the agenda for
the July 1, 1986
amended.
(Motion carried
5-0).
2. Minutes: June 3, 1986
M/S/P Armstrong/Christ - to approve the June 3, 1986 City Council
minutes as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
Minutes: June 10, 1986
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to approve the June 10, 1986 Special
Meeting minutes as presented. (Motion carried 4-0-1<Morgan>).
3. Claims
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to approve the July 1, 1986 claims #87426
thru #87524 as presented. (Motion carried 5-0).
4. Public Inquiries
Planning Commission member Dan Novak stated that the Planning
Commission is at a point in reviewing the Comprehensive Plan
regarding commercial acreage, which includes the I-94 Overlay
District. Some of the Planning Commission members would like to
see this district reviewed and have decided to refer it to the
City Council for some direction. They feel there is ten.times more
commercial potential than what the Comp Plan states and with the
I-94 Overlay it would be 14 times greater. City Attorney Knaak
stated that even though the I-94 Corridor Overlay District has not
been published, the City Council is bound by it. Councilman
Mazzara questioned why we paid Rob Chelseth to set this up last
year if we are going to change it. Also, why is the Planning
Commission doing more than what they are required to do with the
updating of the Comp Plan, as they might not meet the deadline of
October 2, 1986. The consensus of the Council was to have them
look at the I-94 Overlay District, but not to take too much time
doing so.
John Madole, Solid Waste Management Consultant, is working for
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Maroney's and Eisinger Sanitation. They are applying for a grant
from the Metropolitan Council to examine the economics of
recycling and composting financing alternatives. They are looking
for City endorsement of their proposal to use when they approach
the Metropolitan Council for a grant. The Council requested
information from the County, so this will be scheduled for the
July 15, 1986 City Council agenda.
Ken Mahle, Woodbury Councilman, introduced himself and offered his
time for any discussion the City Council would be interested in
regarding items of mutual concern to Lake Elmo and Woodbury.
5. Requests for Variance from Development Moratorium
A. Cindy Stover - Edina Realty
At the last City Council meeting, this request for a variance from
the Development Moratorium Ordinance was forwarded to the City
Attorney for his consideration and review. City Attorney Knaak
handed out his recommendation in a memo dated July 1, 1986 to the
City Administrator. The applicant was not in attendance.
It is the City Attorney's opinion that the language of the
moratorium ordinance does require that any such request be
forwarded to the Planning Commission for its consideration with
respect to the provisions of the comprehensive plan. The
moratorium ordinance reads that such action is not discretinary if
the applicants wish to pursue the variance request. If' this is
the case in this matter, Knaak recommends that the Council forward
the matter to the Planning Commission for its review with the
understanding that the variance determination itself will be made
by the City at a future date.
The City Council took no action on the variance request.
B. David Zimmerhakl
At the last City Council meeting this variance request was
forwarded to the City Attorney for his consideration and review.
The applicant, was not at the meeting.
Mr. Zimmerhakl has explained at the last Council meeting that his
hardship is the issue of financing the parcel. City Attorney
Knaak referred to the provision of Section 301.060C1b. which
provides "economic considerations alone shall not constitute a
hardship". If the applicant wishes to pursue the matter, the
Council must forward the proposal to the Planning Commission.
The City Council took no action on the variance request.
C. Raymond Mester
This variance request was forwarded to the City Attorney for his
consideration and review. This request does require a variance
from the moratorium ordinance in order to permit any preliminary
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approval. Mr. Mester has shown no indication that a hardship
exists that would justify a variance in this matter and the
applicant was not in attendance at this meeting. -
The ordinance does require the Council to forward the matter to
the Planning Commission for its review, prior to any formal
determination by the City Council of the merits of Mr. Mester's
application. The City Attorney recommends that the matter be
forwarded, but that Mr. Mester would have to establish a
sufficient hardship to authorize the Council to grant a variance
in this case.
The City Council took no action on the variance request.
D. Brookman Second Addition (Bank Project)
It was determined that no variance to the development moratorium
was needed because Preliminary Plat approval was given for the
entire Brookman Addition in 1978. This approval authorizes Calvin
Brookman, on behalf of the State Bank of Lake Elmo to proceed with
Final Platting of two lots in the Brookman 2nd Addition.
6. Public Hearing : Shoreland Permit and Variances
Maurice McCollar, 8034 Hill Trail North
Mayor Morgan opened up the public hearing in the City COuncil
chambers at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. McCollar proposes to build an attached garage onto the
existing house at 8034 Hill Trail North.
F-I-N➢IWGS--OF--FAG-:
1. T-hat--the-McCollar-prepe-n-ty--eon-si-&t-s--ef-twe--con-Iguous-
pareeq-s-.
T-he--ne-rthe-rl-y-pance-l-(House Na. -8-G34)-cen-si-s-t-s o- 0 2 acres
a-nd the-southeraly--par-ael-FHouse No-8G42) --eon-sis-t-s- of--&.4-6
acres. -The- Iambi-ned totear area i-s- 0.58 -a-ores .
2. That- sinew all -of the-eontIgueus land is-eon-eide-red-one-paree--
ih the--Code-,-t-he--p-roper-ty in- question- cGn-tain-s-twa p-rineipal
s-tru-e t-ure s .
3. Thatthe-gauge-i-s-proposed to-be--located--81-feet--f-rom-the
N-9HW-where 3Q0-f-eetis-requ3ned--although- the -garage is to•
be- l�ca-ted--beh-inn the-hous-e- as viewed -f-rom-the-lake.
4. That--the-site- p1-an-shows---the g-a-ragewill--be 9-5-feet from the
-s-tre,et- anly---30feet is re-quired.
5. T-hat- the -site plan -states that -the-propoeed-additt�ons-
•will-be--about 23--f-eet -a-bove- the -lake- which ex-eeed-s- the -
minimum building-elevat-ion,
6. Thatordinarl-3y -the septi-c--sys-tem --is not- evaluated-for-
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES JULY 1, 1986 PAGE 4
a-ga-r-age-S- hut 4n the-sase--of—very- small --lots-, a --garage
and 4xiv---way-may--ocs py -land--which--might be -used- for
a:n- al-tern-ate--drai-p-field- site. —McCo- lar---s-tated -that-the-
sanitary -septa s3-stem-was-brought -up- to-Lake-E-lmo--
standards -gin -1,9 7 6 -er 1-9-T7 .
7. That-pub-lic--Doti-s-e wa-s- du- y -sent--and- ptxbrli-s-he-d .
8. That --there -s--ne--wri-t-t-en e-ansent from th-e--nel-ghbers
rega-Piling-the-a-ttaehe"ara-ge . (Amended 7-15-86 City Council M- eetina)
Dave Schweitz, 8032 Hill Trail N., objects because of the
smallness of the lot, not enough frontage on the public street and
does not want a garage next to his property.
Paul and Nancy Hansen, 8024 Hill Trail N., have a concern on the
small lot size and would like to keep the niceness of the
neighborhood. The house has been for sale all last year and they
understand Mr. McCollar is adding a garage in hopes of being able
to sell it.
Galen Meier owns the property that abutts the McCollar property on
the south side and voiced his objection to construction of a
garage, either separate from or attached to a very old existing,
practically non -livable structure called a house. He would like to
see the local community standards be maintained and enforced.
These objections are stated in a letter he presented to the City.
Mayor Morgan closed the public hearing at 7:55 p.m.
Mr. McCollar stated that in Minnesota a garage with a house is
taken for granted and being without a garage would be a hardship.
M/S/P Morgan/Armstrong - to delay action on a request from Maurice
McCollar for a Shoreland Permit and variance to add a garage to an
existing structure at 8034 Hill Trail N. until the July 15, 1986
C_Lty Council meeting. (Motion carried 5-0).
7. Shoreland Permit: Jeff Nelson, 8012 Hill Trail N.
Mr. Nelson proposes to build an addition onto the lakeside of his
home. This property abuts Lake DeMontreville, therefore,
shoreland regulations apply.
In the City Engineer's report, Bohrer states that it appears from
the site plan that all setbacks can be met, therefore, no
variances should be required. The house is well above the minimum
building elevation and no sewage load is being added. A
discrepancy was found and should be cleared up before the permit
is issued. The site plan shows the addition projection 20 feet
from the existing house leaving a 105 foot setback from the water.
The architectural drawing shows the scaled length of the addition
to be 25 feet plus a 5 foot wide deck leaving a 95 foot setback
where 100 feet is required. Mr. Nelson will get back to the City
office if,,wants to proceed with the variance application and then
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the public hearing will be scheduled by the City staff.
M/S/P Christ/Morgan - to approve a shoreland permit for Jeff
Nelson at 8012 Hill Trail N, for the addition to an existing
structure. (Motion carried 5-0).
8. Shoreland Permit:
Thomas Mechelke, Lot 1 Block 4 Foxfire Estates
Mr. Mechelke proposes to build a new house at 9090 Jane Road
North. Since this property is within 1,000 feet of the north
shore of Lake Jane, shoreland regulations apply.
FINDINGS OF FACT:
1. That Lot 1, Block 4 is 1.14 acres in size where 1.5 acres is
required. When Foxfire Estates was platted, the lot area
requirement was 1.0 acres.
2. That percolation tests and soil borings were conducted which
show that there are no limitations on the soils.
3. That the site plan supplied with the soils report shows that
all setbacks can be met.
4. That the hardship is that the area is completely subdivided
and there is no additional land available to increase the
lot size.
5. That the application meets all of the Shoreland Regulations
except for lot size and City Engineer Bohrer recommends a
variance should be granted for lot size.
City Administrator Overby will work on matching the Shoreland
Permit Ordinance to the City Zoning Ordinance.
M/S/P Morgan/Dunn - to approve a Shoreland Permit for Thomas
Mechelke for Lot 1, Block 4, Foxfire Estates and schedule a public
hearing for August 5, 1986 for a lot size variance in the
Shoreland District. (Motion carried 5-0).
9. Public Hearing Proposed Amendments to Charitable Gambling
Ordinance
Mayor Morgan opened up the public hearing in the Council chambers
at 8:00 p.m.
The Charitable Gambling Ordinance was adopted by the City Council
at the June 3, 1986 meeting. Part of the approval included asking
the Planning Commission for their recommendations to be discussed
at a public hearing.
John Hughes, Lake Elmo Jaycees, presented a slide program on the
background of the Lake Elmo Jaycees and their contributions to the
community and spoke in support of the Lake Elmo Charitable
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Gambling Ordinance and against all the proposed amendments.
Dan Novak, Planning Commission member, stated that the Lake Elmo
Jaycees have been so successful over the years without the need of
Charitable Gambling. For this same reason, he doesn't understand
the need now for Charitable Gambling other than raffles. It's his
belief that by liberalizing our Charitable Gambling Ordinance we
are compromising our value system for a fast buck and because
everyone else seems to be doing it.
Tim Fitzpatrick, Chairman of the Fall Festival at Guardian Angels
Church, would find the second and third amendments restrictive and
would like more clarification on the fourth amendment. He asked
why do we have to be more legal than the State of Minnesota.
Marge Williams, Planning Commmission Member, spoke in support of
the Charitable Gambling amendments.
Todd Williams voiced a concern that any charitable organization
not based in Lake Elmo could come into the City and run Charitable
Gambling and this should be restricted.
City Attorney Knaak added that Item 4. could be found illegal if
challenged.
Terry Needham, Lake Elmo Jaycees stated that they do not plan on
bringing any gambling devices outside of a building. He added
that they will be paying the Twin Point Tavern a percentage for
using their establishment.
Councilwoman Armstrong felt that charitable gambling organizations
should provide the City of Lake Elmo with a copy of their monthly
report and any other reports to the State Charitable Gambling
Control Board.
Mayor Morgan closed the public hearing at 8:45 p.m.
M/S/P Morgan/Christ - to delay action on the proposed charitable
gambling amendments until the July 15, 1986 City Council meeting.
(Motion carried 5-0).
10. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
A. Water Safety on Lake Elmo
Because of an accident involving a rowboat and motorboat operating
on Lake Elmo on Sunday, June 8, 1986, the Council discussed the
safety of boating on the lake. Since the opening of the Park
Reserve, the traffic on the lake has increased and the Council
would like to propose some restrictions that would possibly help
prevent accidents of this nature in the future. Another concern
was the water patrol of this lake, as it was pointed out that
there is only one full-time water patrol officer for all of the
county lakes, which includes Lake Elmo.
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City Attorney Knaak handed out the authorized state statutes and
regulations on surface water use. He added that the City can
regulate surface water use on Lake Elmo by ordinance with the
approval of the DNR Commissioners.
A suggestion was made to have a public hearing involving Lake Elmo
lake residents to determine the regulations they would like to see
on the lake. City Attorney Knaak will draw up a draft ordinance
to be reviewed by the City Council before a public hearing is
scheduled.
M/S/P Dunn/Armstrong - to have a staff update on water safety on
Lake Elmo and existing local ordinances. (Motion carried 5-0).
11. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Derrick Land Company: Results of Percolation Tests
City Engineer Bohrer reported in his report dated June 26, 1986
written to the Mayor and Council that the monitoring is now
complete and the results are attached to this report. The
critical elevation for these sites based on the approved grading
plan is 974.0. Two consecutive water level readings above 974.0
in any of the observation wells would classify the site as
unacceptable. The results show that all of the lots are
unacceptable to varying degrees.
City Administrator Overby handed out a letter written by Mr. Roger
Derrick's Attorney Christopher J. Diet-zen dated June 27, 1986.
Mr. Roger Derrick, who was accompanied by Doreen McClellan,
acknowledged that all four tests failed. He felt they failed
because the grading was not completed and because April was one of
the wettest months on record. His engineers have reviewed the
grading plan and have approved it. He added that it is Derrick's
intentions to complete the grading work before the grading permit
expires this Fall (November 19, 1986). He will add more fill, put
topsoil on and seed it so it looks good and would like this to set
another winter so percolation tests can be taken next Spring. Mr.
Derrick showed the City Council an illustration of how the filled
lots would look. City Engineer Bohrer stated that, from an
engineering standpoint, he could not predict today the results of
the grading plan for next Spring.
M/S/P Christ/Dunn - to table final action on the Derrick Landfill
permit (Lots 1-4, Block 2, DeMontreville Highlands 3rd Addition)
until the July 15,1986 meeting. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. Sunfish Lake Pumping
At the City Council's direction, City Engineer Bohrer has
continued to search for a suitable location to dispose of excess
Sunfish Lake water by pumping and infiltration. There appears to
be a suitable 40 acre parcel in the Washington County Regional
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Park located just south of the C&NW Railroad and west of Kelvin
Avenue. Bohrer indicated he had verbal approval from Park
Director Jack Perkovich. The land is rented to Paul Bischoff and
planted in corn. Mr. Bischoff is also in same Federal Program
that pays $100 per acre, in addition to the profit from the corn
itself. Mr. Bischoff is not opposed to the City using this land
for infiltrating water, as long as he is compensated for his loss.
For the purpose of this estimate, he is assuming that up to 20
acres could be ruined, at a cost of up to $300 per acre.
The pump could be set up on the south side of TH5 and the pipe
laid along the right-of-way. A culvert would have to be bored
under the railroad. The revised project cost is as follows:
Pump, pipe, fuel per VBWD estimate $28,500 to $33,200
Bore culvert under railroad $6,000
Crop damage, 20 acres @$300 $6,000
Total Estimated Project Cost $40,500 to $45,200
Assessing the cost over the 534 parcels that were originally
assessed in the City's Lake Jane pumping projects would give
estimated assessments ranging from $76 to $85 per parcel.
C. Water Problems on Lake Jane, Legion Pond
Jim Weyer mentioned that the 509 Plan might be detained about two
weeks becauuse of a lawsuit filed by the City of Lakeland against
the 509 Plan. He sees April or May as a first date the water would
flow out of Lake Jane from improvements by the watershed project.
The water level of Lake Jane has risen to 926.7 (as of June 25th)
and is continuing to rise about 1 inch per day. The elevation on
the 25th is two -tenths of a foot above the record level of July,
1985. At least 10 homes on Lake Jane are below the current lake
level, according to Jim Weyer.
There was discussion from the Legion Pond residents on whether to
consider the pumping of water from Legion Pond to Lake Elmo and
assessing landowners in the subwatershed (about 80 acres). Don
Clausen proposed to do the pumping himself because he did not want
anyone coming onto his property and taking down his fence like the
last time.
It was pointed out by City Administrator Overby that a City can
apply for up to $15,000 in state funds, which would have to be
matched equally by local funding. The Council felt that this
source of assistance could be beneficial for both Lake Jane and
Legion Pond property owners. The City will apply for a grant
offered by the DNR for flood related projects, if the matching
local funds can be obtained.
M/S/P Mazzara/Morgan - to hold a public improvement hearing on
July 21, 1986 at 7:30 to consider the pumping of water from Legion
Pond to Lake Elmo and assess landowners in the subwatershed
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district. (Motion carried 3-2<Dunn: proving benefit is very
difficult in order to collect on the assessments; Armstrong).
D. Petition for Street Vacation: Unpaved, westerly
200 feet of Jane Road North
Mr. Skalbeck is requesting that the City vacate that portion of
Jane Road North which abuts the William Bloyer property on the
south and the Maistrovich property on the north. Mr. Skalbeck
would not be a direct beneficiary of the street vacaton. However,
Mr. Skalbeck desires to gain control of the road so that he can
pave and otherwise improve the unpaved portion to be vacated. To
do this, Mr. Skalbeck would have to make arrangements with his
neighbors, after the vacation was approved.
City Engineer Bohrer explained that a public hearing is required
to vacate this street. If it is vacated, half goes to the north
and the other half to the south and it would have to be a retained
easement. Bohrer also asked if the City would ever connect Jane
Road with the Hidden Bay area.
The City staff and the interested residents will try to look for
some solution, perhaps on a short term basis.
M/S/P Morgan/Mazzara - to extend the City Council meeting until
11:30 p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. City Well Maintenance Situation
The Old Village well pump and motor have been experiencing
maintenance problems. This was explained in Larry Bohrer's letter
to the Council dated June 25, 1986. The money to purchase a new
motor will be drawn out of the water bond account.
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to authorize the purchase of a new motor
for the City's municipal water system in the amount of $4,780 per
Larry Bohrer's letter dated June 25, 1986. (Motion carried 5-0).
12. CITY ADMIISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Fire Department CIP and 1963 Scout
Fire Chief Fran Pott handed out and explained a draft of the
1986-1990 Capital Improvement Plan for the Fire Department. Pott
noted that there is nothing in the plan for providing service to
Sections 32-33, and no unusual service capability in the Regional
Park. This Fire Department CIP will be looked over and discussed
at a future date.
The 1963 Scout which will be used by the Building Inspector will
be looked into by City Administrator Overby and City Attorney
Knaak. Councillor Christ will assist in resolving how the
Building Inspector will be allowed to use the vehicle.
B. Maintenance Personnel Evaluation & Salary Increase
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES JULY 1, 1986 PAGE 10
Michael Bouthilet has been working in the position of General
Maintenance Worker since November 25, 1985. Based on Mike's
performance and abilities, City Administrator Overby recommends
that he be given a 4% raise to $10.43 per hour retroactive to May
25, 1986.
M/S/P Mazzara/Christ - to approve a 4% raise for Michael Bouthilet
to $10.43 per hour retroactive to May 25, 1986. (Motion carried
5-0).
C. City Assessor Contract
Frank Langer offered to handle the assessment services for Lake
Elmo at a rate of 10% below the County's current rate of $4.40 per
parcel ($3.96). Mr. Langer will start work in mid -July.
M/S/P Dunn/Mazzara - to adopt Resolution 86-40 to approve the
assessment contract between Frank Langer and the City of Lake
Elmo. (Motion carried 5-0).
D. Joint City Council -Planning Commission Meeting
On July 28th, a joint meeting of the Planning Commission and the
City Council will be held. This will provide an opportunity for
the City Council to give input on the Comprehensive Plan to the
Planning Commission members so they know their ideas will be
supported later at the Council review and approval phase. It was
decided that the Erickson representatives should wait with
presenting their concept plan until the City Council can act on it
after the Development Moratorium has ended.
E. City Office Building
Arlyn Christ presented various color schemes for the exterior
surface of the building. The brown roof was chosen by the City
Council for the new City Building. City Administrator Overby will
present the various color schemes to the Brookfield people.
Councilman Christ added that it appears we are under budget on
material costs and everything looks good.
F. Reid Park
Mike Mazzara reported that the backstop is up at Reid Park. He
has talked to Howard Durand of the School District and Mr. Durand
expressed interest in an extra ballfield. They would improve the
field if we let them use it. The Council felt this proposal makes
sense, but had some questions. City Attorney Knaak could write-up
an agreement. City Administrator Overby will ask the Parks
Commission for their recommendation.
G. Composting Contract
City Administrator Overby will look into securing a check for Boy
Scout Troop 162 for work done at the Compost site.
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M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to approve the composting contract with
Washington County. (Motion carried 5-0).
13. Adjourn
M/S/P Christ/Mazzara - to adjourn the City Council meeting at
11:45 p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).