HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-06-87 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JANUARY 6, 1987
Acting Mayor Christ called the City Council meeting to order at
7:00 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Christ,
Armstrong, Graves, Moe, City Engineer Bohrer, City Attorney Knaak
and City Administrator Overby.
Acting Mayor Christ acknowledged and welcome Jason Och and Roger
Williams from Boy Scout Troop No. 162 in order to observe the City
Council meeting to fulfill requirements for their Merit badge.
City Administrator Overby administered the Oath of Office to the
newly elected officials Mayor Arlyn Christ and City Council
members Charles Graves and Donald Moe. Congratulations and a
round of applause was extended to the new Mayor and Council
members.
1. Agenda
Add: 7C. Traffic Issues, 7D. Resolution Approval, 7E. Parks
Commission Report.
Councilman Moe asked City Attorney Knaak if the Mayor can make
motions and second them. Moe had looked up in the League of
Minnesota Cities, legislative powers presiding at Council meetings
which stated that "in addition they can temporarily step down from
the Chair as the position of presiding officer to engage in debate
and to make and second motions". City Attorney Knaak replied as
he interprets the State Statutes the Mayor is a presiding officer
and can and does make and second motions.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve the Agenda for the January 6,
1987 City Council Nln s as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
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2. Minutes: December 16, 1986
M/S/P Armstrong/Moe - to approve the December 16, 1986 City
Council minutes as amended and to include the approval of
Resolutions 86-49 thru 86-55. (Motion carried. 1-0-3<Abstain:
Christ, Graves, Moe>).
3. Claims
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to approve the January 6, 1986 Claims
#88199 thru #88282 as presented. (Motion carried 4-0).
All claims were in -the budget. (Amended 1-20-87)
4. Public Inquiries
i Roger Beaubien, property owner on Sunfish Lake, voiced his concern
on the number of people using the lake with motorized vehicles and
the environmental impact on the lake. He asked how the City is
enforcing "No Motorized Vehicles" regulation. Another concern was
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the amount of litter left on the lake and around the shoreline and
( asked if the City could provide some receptacles for the trash.
City Administrator Overby stated that motorized vehicles are not
allowed in any of the City Parks, and he would call it to the
attention of the Deputies to monitor this area more closely.
There is one trash barrel on the west side of Sunfish Lake which
is always full, but the maintenance crew could add one or two
trash barrels. Overby added that, technically, there is no
established public access from the City Park land to Sunfish Lake.
Another concern raised was the traffic problem and if anything
could be done with the State Transportation Dept. or could "No
Parking Signs" be posted in that area. Mayor Christ checked with
the Deputy Sheriff, and he reported that the vehicles are not
illegally parked along Sunfish. City Administrator Overby talked
to the Oakdale Mn/DOT office and they and the Deputy Sheriff
looked at the area. It would be logical to park along the
northside of the highway adjacent to the lake, but it was felt
that wouldobstructthe view for drivers coming around the curve.
This is why they posted "no parking" on the north side of TH5.
They considered putting "no parking" on both sides but thought
this would drive the cars onto Stillwater Lane and side streets
which could aggravate the problem.
Pat Riley, 10550 Stillwater Boulevard, stated that he has found
the trespass law to be urrfore-cab32 at this point because the
County Sheriff's Dept. has elected not to enforce it because of
the number of people. They have passed it on to the DNR to make a
determination about the 75 foot road right-of-way. Whether there
is access to the lake by the public because of the high water has
to be determined. (Amended 1-20-87 uninforecable)
Mrs. Thomas Hilpisch, 10732 Stillwater Boulevard, would be in
favor of installing a sign on her property directing the people to
the proper -access to the lake. City Administrator Overby answered
this could.be done, but it would still fall back to an enforcement
question when people find they have to walk upwards to a mile to
get to the fishing area from the parking lot.
Chavez
Joe ChevLz stated that they are cutting down the flooded trees and
using this wood for fires.
City Administrator Overby will work with the City Attorney and the
Deputy Sheriff to determine if they should reroute the parking and
try to come up with a solution.
5. ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
A. Appointment to Fill City Council Vacancy
The election of Arlyn Christ as Mayor creates one vacancy on the
City Council. The City Council had to decide who should be
appointed to fill this City Council position for the remainder of
the 4-year term (expires 12-31-88).
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City Administrator Overby had presented excerpts from Minnesota
Statutes which described the appointment process. The City
Council votes on the selection of a nominee. In case of a tie
vote among the City Councillors, "the Mayor shall make the
appointment". City Attorney Fritz Knaak advised that Mayor Christ
may vote with the three City Councillors, and then act as Mayor to
break a tie vote if necessary.
The following people were interviewed for the position: Richard
E. Johnson, 8896 Lake Jane Trail; Fred Nazarian, 5450 Highlands
Trail N.; Barbara Haacke, 9280 55th St. N.; and Howard Michels,
8740 Stillwater Boulevard.
Councilman Graves felt that looking at the record within the
community, Howard Michels had demonstrated a committment to the
City by serving on the Planning Commission for eight years and as
Chairman for a couple of those years. He has the breadth of
knowledge of the issues confronting the City and had participated
in the 1979 Comprehensive Plan. His length of service and the
recent period in which he served speaks very well for him.
Councilman Moe added that Howard Michels is dedicated, fair,
honest and not one sided. He also felt that Fred Nazarian and
Barb Haacke looked at both sides of the issues. Moe noted that
Mr. Johnson had done a lot of travelling which has taken him out
of the action for some time.
Mayor Christ supported Richard Johnson because he has been active
in the community before any of the rest of the people there were
in the community. Christ felt that community involvement is
certainly meritorius, but you can stand up for the rights and
abilities in your community without being on the Planning
Commission, which is not the criteria here. Mr. Johnson was
extremely active on the Lake Jane Water problem, and he stood
behind the people on 36th and 37th Street when the Lake Jane
Landfill was found to be polluted. Johnson is genuinely concerned
about the environment and the future of the City of Lake Elmo. He
is a Tri-•Lakes resident and we need representation from that area
of the community. He is dedicated,, hard working, independent,
didn't support any candidate in the last, election and has the time
to devote to the job.
Councilman Graves felt there would be three out of the five
councilmembers from the Tri-Lakes area. Fred and Barb would be
from different portions of that area. On the other hand, Howard
Michels is from South of Hwy 5, close to Tablyn Park. He owns 40+
acres and has the perspective for problems of people with some
acreage and would give a better representation of the community.
Councilwoman Armstrong felt that Richard Johnson shared the same
philosophical ideas as her, and she could probably work the best
with him. She felt that Johnson was effective in opposing the
Lake Jane Landfill before other people even realized the potential
problems of a landfill. He is a Chemical Engineer, lives near the
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Lake Jane Landfill area and would be an asset to the community to
help fight this new landfill that is already determined as the
final site.
M/S/F Moe/Graves - to appoint Howard Michels to fill the City
Council vacancy. (Motion failed 2-2<Armstrong, Christ>).
M/S/F Armstrong/Christ -• to appoint Richard Johnson to fill the
City Council vacancy. (Motion failed 2-2<Graves, Moe>).
M/S/F Moe/Graves - to appoint Fred Nazarian to fill the City
Council vacancy. (Motion failed 2-2<Armstrong, Christ>).
M/S/F Graves/Moe - to appoint Barb Haacke to fill the City Council
vacancy. (Motion failed 2-2<Armstrong, Christ>).
Mayor Christ appointed Richard E. Johnson as the new City Council
member because he felt that Richard Johnson would be a tremendous
asset to the community by filling out the City Council vacancy.
City Administrator Overby administrated the oath of office to
Richard E. Johnson as the new City Council member and offered his
congratulations.
B. Election of Acting Mayor
Each year, the City Council must elect a Council member to be the
Acting Mayor when the Mayor is absent from a meeting. In the
past, the most senior Council member has generally been elected to
this position. With the election of Arlyn Christ to be Mayor,
Rosemary Armstrong becomes the senior City Councillor.
Based on last year's selection, Graves found this to be a
generalization rather than something the Council followed
religiously.
M/S/F Moe/Graves - to appoint Councilmember Charles Graves as
Acting Mayor during the absence of Mayor Christ. (Motion failed
2-3<Johnson, Christ, Armstrong>).
Mayor Christ felt the Acting Mayor should have some Council
experience prior to becomming Acting Mayor. Moe responded that
Chuck Graves had served as Chairman of the Planning Commission for
two years and is well qualified to be Acting Mayor.
M/S/P Johnson/Christ - to appoint Council member Rosemary
Armstrong as Acting Mayor during the absence of Mayor Christ.
(Motion carried 4-1<Moe>).
C. Appointment of Official Depositories
The City used six depositories in 1986 for placement of City funds
in a checking account, certificates of deposit for short-term
investments and bonds for long-term investments.
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City Finance Director Marilyn Banister indicates that the current
depositories have provided good service to the City in 1986, and
she recommended continuing with these same six depositories in
1987.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to appoint State Bank of Lake Elmo, Washington
Federal Savings & Loan, Oak Park Heights Savings & Loan, American
National Bank of Saint Paul, Offerman and Company, Inc., and Juran
& Moody Company, Inc. as the City of Lake Elmo's official
depositories for 1987. (Motion carried 5-0).
D. Designation of Legal Newspaper
The City's legal newspaper in 1986 was the Oakdale -Lake Elmo
Review. The City Staff felt that this paper gave them the widest
coverage of any paper in the Lake Elmo area, in part because most
City residents subscribe to it. Another service provided by the
Review at no cost is their printing of the City's newsletter
edition and inserting a copy of the City's biweekly newsletter in
its newspaper mailing.
Councilman Graves felt getting the word out to the community has
been a poorly done job. He suggested the telephone number of the
Lillie Newspaper should be inserted in the Newsletter in order to
obtain a blue newspaper box where the Lake Elmo Newsletter can be
delivered free.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to designate the Oakdale -Lake Elmo Review as
the City's official newspaper for 1987. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Appointment of City Consultants
City Administrator Overby recomended that the City Council
reappoint the following consultants for 1987:
City Engineer - Larry Bohrer, TKDA & Associates
City Planner - Rob Chelseth, Planning & Development Services. Inc.
City Attorney - Frederick W. Knaak, of the law firm of Rauenhorst,
Carlson & Knaak
City Prosecutor - Gregory J. Tavernier, of the law firm of Caswell
& Tavernier
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to appoint Larry Bohrer of TKDA as the
City Engineer for. 1987. (Motion carried 5-0).
City Administrator Overby informed the Council that Rob Chelseth
has requested a rate increase from $35/Hr. (which took effect
2/83) to $45/Hour. Prior to February of 1983, the rate was
$30/Hour. The reason for this request was his planning agency has
other business that takes him out of the state and if he was to
service Lake Elmo it would interrupt his regular clients and he
would need to change his fee. In 1986 we set aside more money
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than what was used, primarily because the City Administrator took
on the job of working on the Comprehensive Plan update.
City Engineer Bohrer explained that service on a
project -to -project basis would be considerd pass-thru costs.
These do not directly affect the City budget if the majority of
the work are projects and not general planning.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to table the appointment of Rob Chelseth as the
City Planner for 1987 for two weeks in order to get a comparison
of what other planners are charging. (Motion carried 5-0).
Fritz Knaak explained that his new rate approved in 1986 by the
Council is $60/Hour with a retaining fee of $500, to include one
City Council meeting a month and he would like to attend one
Planning Commission meeting a month.
M/S/P Armstrong/Johnson - to appoint Frederick W. Knaak as the
City's Attorney for 1987 at $60/Hour with a retaining fee of $500
and to include one City Council meeting per month and one Planning
Commission meeting a month. (Motion carried 5--0).
City Administrator Overby informed the Council of Greg Tavernier's
request to change his rate from $850 per month to $900 per month
which is a 5.9% increase. This increase is due to the increase in
jury trials (22 in 1985 to 26 in 1986) and the cost of operating
has gone up.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to appoint Gregory J. Tavernier as the City's
Prosecuting Attorney for 1987 at the new rate of $900 per month.
(Motion carried 5-0).
F. Appointment of the Council to act as the Personnel,
Budget, and Capital Improvement Committees
Prior to 1985, three Council members were appointed to the Budget,
Capital Improvement, and Personnel Committees. In 1985, the
Council decided to act as a committee of the whole to discuss
these areas as needed during the year. This procedure was
continued. in 1986. The Staff feels that this arrangement has
worked well and suggests that the Council continue the procedure
for 1987.
M/S/P Moe/Armstrong - to appoint the entire City Council to serve
as a committee of the whole for budget, capital improvement and
personnel matters. (Motion carried 5-0).
G. Appointment of City Representatives to Community Education
Advisory Boards
No appointments were made in 1986, since no volunteers applied for
either position. The City Staff recommended that the Council
table action on this item until after the vacancies have been
advertised in the City Newsletter and applications have been
received.
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Councilwoman Armstrong said she would consider joining the North
Saint Paul, Maplewood, Oakdale School District #622 Area Elected
Officials Group instead of serving on the ISD 622 Community
Education Advisory Board.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to table appointment of City Representatives to
the District 622 and 834 Community Educaton Advisory Boards until
names of candidates have been received for Council consideration
at a later date. (Motion carried 5-0).
H. Appointments to the Planning Commission
With the election of Charles Graves and Donald Moe to the City
Council, there are currently two vacancies on the Planing
Commission. There are no re -appointments at this time.
Lee Gordon Hunt and David Johnson (who were appointed in October
of 1986) should move up to full member status.
Replacements for the two Alternate positions are needed.. The
following individuals were interviewed:
1. Gloria Knoblauch, 9181 31st St. N.
First applied 1-21-86 for Parks and Planning Commission.
Appointed to Parks Commission 7-15-86. Reapplied 12-1-86 for
first choice of Planning Commission.
2. ReAnn Scott, 9260 Jane Court N., Applied 11-3-86, but has
since withdrawn her application.
3. Frederick Nazarian, 5450 Highlands Trail N., Applied 12-10-86
Previously served on the Planning Commission from 8-81 thru
12-21-85.
4. Robert Enes, 5040 Lake Elmo Avenue, Applied 1-5-87.
M/S/P Armstrong/Christ - to make Lee Gordon Hunt, and. David Johnson
full members of the Planning Commission. (Motion carried 5-0).
Councilman Graves made the following motion on the basis of
reading the applications. Their attitudes seem similar based on
their responses. In the past, the general rule has been if there
are no major distinguishing characteristics, then we take the
people in the order they have applied.
M/S/F Graves/Moe - to appoint Gloria Knoblauch as First Alternate
to the Planning Commission. (Motion failed 2-3<Johnson, Christ,
Armstrong>).
M/S/F Graves/Moe - to appoint Fred Nazarian as Second Alternate to
the Planning Commission. (Motion failed 2-3<Johnson, Christ,
Armstrong>).
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Councilman Graves explained the reason he thought Fred Nazarian
would do a good job is the fact that the Plannning Commission's
most senior person has 1 1/2 years experience. One of the biggest
problems the Commission had was the members did not have the
background., experience or the historical perspective to be able to
evaluate the situations that came up. Graves added that it was
imperative that we have a diversity of opinion on the Planning
Commission in order to look at all aspects of a situation.
Councilman Moe also voiced, his concern about the inexperience of
the Planning Commission members. Moe felt Fred. Nazarian is
dedicated and has worked and passed ordinances. Moe added, we
would be doing this community a disservice to let our feelings get
in the way of an experienced person. Mayor Christ had attended
the last Planning Commission meeting and in his opinion the
"inexperienced" Planning Commission handled a development
situation in a very professional and thorough manner. Christ felt
it was not the amount of experience you had, but it was the
dedication of looking into the issue and recognizing what the
people in the community want. We would be doing a disservice to
the community if we didn't support the wishes of the community to
maintain the rural character.
Mayor Christ felt he could not support Fred Nazarian candidacy
because of an incident which occurred at a Planning Commission
meeting in September of 1985. Mr. Nazarian, nor Councilmembers
Graves and Moe, who were in attendance at this meeting, could
recall the incident.
(Amended 1-20-87 See Page 12 for Insertions)
Councilman Johnson was impressed with Rob Enes' knowledge of
building and zoning requirements. Enes is a relatively new Lake
Elmo resident, but we need to get new people involved.
Councilwom&n Armstrong has talked to Rob Enes and likes the kinds
of things he would like to see in the future for Lake Elmo.
M/S/P Johnson/Armstrong - to table the appointments for further
consideration until the next Planning Commission meeting. (Motion
carried 3-2<Moe, Graves>).
6. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. 1987 Conditional Use Permits
The following Conditional Use Permits are due for renewal for
calendar year 1987:
1. Rockin'L Trailer Sales, 10824 Hudson Blvd.
2. Oakdale Gun Club, 10386 10th St. N.
3. Breheim Kennels, 8415 38th St. N.
4. Lauseng Stone, Inc., 9591 60th St. N.
5. Goods Inc., 11490 Hudson Blvd. (no application received).
6. Oakwood Animal Hospital., 8611 34th St. N.
V. Green Acres Recreation, 8989 55th St. N.
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%8' Country Sun Farm, 11211 60th St. N.
9. Cimarron Golf Course
10. Animal Inn, 8633 34th St. N.
11. Helen Miller Fisher (Fisher Kennel) 8139 39th St. N.
12. Shafer Contracting Company
13. Vali-Hi Drive In (no application received).
14. Hammes Mining, 10105 10th St. N.
The following Conditional Use Permit was approved by the City
Council on 12-16-86, but has not been formally executed at the
administrative level.
1A. Low Cost Storage, Thomas G. Armstrong, 8291 15th St.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to adopt Resolutions 87-4 through 87-15
granting the following Conditional Use Permits for 1987. (Motion
carried 5-0).
R-87-4 - granting a Conditional Use Permit• to Charles Anderson for
Animal Inn Training School in the Agricultural Zoning District
R-87-5 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Donald Tauer for
Animal Inn, a Public Dog Kennel in the Agricultural Zoning
District
R-87-6 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Ray Swanson, Oakwood
Animal Hospital for Veterinary Clinic, Animal Hospital, Crematory
annd Dog Pound in the Agricultural Zoning District.
R-87-7 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Geraldine
Breheim-Breheim Kennels for a Dog Kennel in the R-1 Zoning
District.
R-87-8 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Richard and Eileen
Bergmann, Country Sun Farm for Greenhouse and Sales Lot.
R-87-9 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Oakdale Gun Club for.
Outdoor Target Range in the Agricultural Zoning District.
R-87-10 - granting a Conditional. Use Permit to Helen Miller Fisher
for a Private Dog Kennel in the R-1 Zoning District to include no
open burning allowed on this property per State Statute.
R-87-11 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Ruben
Lauseng-Lauseng Stone, for Open Sales Lot in the Agricultural
Zoning District.
R-87-12 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Shafer Contracting
Co., Inc., Box A. Shafer, Minnesota to Engage in Mining
Operations.
R-87-13 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Leonard Hanson -
Rockin L Sales -• for Open Sales Lot in the Agricultural Zoning
District.
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R-87-14 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to R. J. O'Neil for
Vali-Hi Drive Inn Theatre in the General Business Zoning District.
R-87-15 - granting a Conditional Use Permit to Howard Springborn
and Gaylen Springborn - Green Acres, Inc. for Commercial
Recreation of a Rural Nature in the Ag Zoning District.
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to adopt Resolution R-87-16 granting a
Conditional Use Permit to Thomas G. Armstrong, 8191 15th St., for
Low Cost Storage Business in an Agricultural Zoning as approved by
the City Council on 12-16-86. (Motion carried 4--0-l<Armstrong>).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to table Conditional Use Permit Application
from Goods Inc., for one month or at Council's discretion.
(Motion carried. 5-0).
Mr. Warren Hubberd, Cimarron Park, voiced concerns regarding water
privileges, damage down by golfers, lawn mowing done on off hours
and no parking or restrooms for the handicapped at the Cimarron
Golf Course. Because of these concerns, the following motion was
made.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to table the Cimarron Golf Course
Conditional Use Permit application until the February 3rd City
Council meeting in order to extend an invitation to a Cimarron
official to attend this meeting. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to table action on the Hammes Mining CUP until
the February 3rd City Council meeting in order for the City staff
to make a status report on an inspection of their operation and a
copy of which will be sent to Hammes Mining. (Motion carried.
5-0).
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to extend the City Council meeting until 11:15
p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Conference for Newly Elected Officials
The League of Minnesota Cities has scheduled a conference for
newly elected officials and two pre -conference seminars for newly
elected and veteran officials (Ethics and public leadership;
Enhancing our effectiveness within the City team). The conference
will be held. on Saturday, January 31, 1987 at the Marriott in
Bloomington at a fee of $45 per person. City Administrator Overby
requested the Council's authorization to attend the January 30th
evening pre -conference seminar from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. at a fee of
$20. Overby recommended that all City Council members attend the
conference or workshops of their choice.
M/S/P Christ/Graves •- to authorize the City Administrator
attending the January 30th evening pre -conference seminar in
Bloomington, MN. (Motion carried 5-0).
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B. Priority Setting
Mayor Christ encourages all City Council members to concentrate on
what they think the City Administrator prioritiies should be and
then let Bob know.
C. Traffic Issues
Councilman Graves suggested inserting a statement in the
newsletter stating if any residents should have a concern on
traffic problems in the City, they should bring them up to the
City staff.
D. Resolution Approval
City Administrator Overby requested approval for Resolutions 87-1
through 87-3 offering appreciation and thanks for service to Mayor
David Morgan and Council members .Bruce Dunn and Mike Mazzara.
M/S/P Graves/Christ - to adopt Resolutions 87-1 through 87-3
offering appreciation and thanks to David Morgan, Bruce Dunn, and
Mike Mazzara for service to the City of Lake Elmo. (Motion
carried 5-0).
E. Parks Commission Report
City Administrator Overby reported that the Parks Commission
recommended to change the Sunday skating schedule to allow only
open skating from 12 noon to 9 p.m. This new policy has the
effect of banning use of the rink for hockey during the hours that
the shelter building is open (12 noon to 9 p.m.).
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to accept the Parks Commission
recommendation to change the Sunday skating schedule at Lions Park
to allow only open skating from 12 noon to 9 p.m. (Motion carried
5-0).
The Parks Commission recommended that they look at a Master Park
Plan for West Sunfish. The Council suggested that the park have a
passive type use. Also, City Attorney Knaak felt this should be
subject to a Hold Harmless statement.
The Parks Commission suggested a letter be sent by the City to
voice our displeasure of Gateway Trail being used for motorized
vehicles within the City of Lake Elmo.
M/S/P Christ/Moe - to recommend sending a letter to the DNR which
will put them on notice that we do not want snowmobiles or other
motorized vehicles using the Lake Elmo portion of the Gateway
Trail. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 11:30
p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
Amended 1-20-87 Request for the following insertions. Page 12
H. Appointments to the Planning Commission
Mayor Christ stated that in September 1985, after all the published agenda
items were done, Chairman Fred Nazarian turned to the Recording Secretary and
asked her to turn the tape recorder off so he could privately discuss with
the Planning Connission.an issue about a private resident. .Christ asked
Nazarian what gave him the right to conduct a private meeting with tape
recorders turned off.
Councilman Graves stressed the fact that the current Planning'Commission is
lacking experience. There are people on the commission that have no
experience at all dealing. with actual cases of people coming into the
commission and petition fora certain allowance. They have not had the
opportunity to look people square in the eye and tell them they were sorry,
but you cannot have those three variances you requested. Graves added, it
is darn tough to sit there and tell than that and it takes experience to
develop that fortitude.
Councilwoman. Armstrong responded that maybe Graves should not have left
the Planning Commission. Graves answered that he thought he could serve the
community better on the City Council. Armstrong was surprised that Graves
was sensitive to rumors because he was elected as councilman on rumors.
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vacancies. The new applicants were briefly interviewed.
1. Gloria Knoblauch, 9181 31st St. N.
2. Frederick Nazarian, 5450 Highlands Trail North
3. Robert Enes, 5040 Lake Elmo Avenue
4. Tom Simpson, 5270 Jamaca Blvd. N.
5. Bruce W. Beutel, 3590 Laverne Avenue N.(Not in attendance)
6. Bruce Dunn, 11018 Upper 33rd St.
7. Ed Stevens, 10133 47th St. N.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to appoint to the Lake Elmo Planning Commission
Tom Simpson as a Regular Member, Ed Stevens as First Alternate,
and Rob Enes as Second Alternate. (Motion 14-1<Armstrong:she did
not see any reason to pull Tom Simpson off of the Parks Commission
as he has served less than two years. She had the opportunity to
work with him on Kleis Park and had heard nothing but good things
on his work with the commission>).
5. Sunfish Lake Parking Problems
Discussion under the Public Inquiries section of the last council
meeting (1-6-87) covered concerns by Roger Beaubien, Pat Riley and
other residents living along Sunfish Lake who have had problems
with people trespassing across their property in order to gain
access to the lake for ice fishing.
Since the Council meeting, the City Administrator had talked to
Mn/DOT, the Deputy Sheriff, the DNR and local residents. The
following is an update:
1. Mn/DOT was willing to post no -parking signs on the south side
of Highway 5. Mayor Christ and the Administrator agreed that no
parking signs would be a way to prevent accidents with people
having to cross the road going to and from the lake. The no
parking signs were installed Thursday, January 15, 1987.
2. The Mn/DOT survey crew was scheduled to verify whether the
public waters overlaid the highway right-of-way between the road
and the lake. If the water is actually on the right-of-way, then
there is direct public access to Sunfish lake (until the water
level goes down, and private property becomes accessible again).
3. The Enforcement Section of the DNR indicated that fires are
allowed on the ice, but that property owners still have the right
to protect trees that are in the water. Some fishermen have
allegedly broken off branches to use for their fires. The
Sheriff's Office questioned whether the DNR position was accurate.
Deputy Jessie Kurtz attended the meeting to assist with the
discussion.
4. A temporary sign directing people to Sunfish Lake city park
has been ordered and will be installed at the corner of Stillwater
Lane and Highway 5. This sign should encourage users of the lake
to enter from the parking lot at the park.
5. The trash barrel in the park along the lake has been emptied,
and a second barrel has also been installed.
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may
seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information
is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from
City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also
have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 6, 1987
7:00 P.M. MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: December 16, 1986
3. Claims
4. Public Inquiries
5. ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
A. Appointment to Fill City Council Vacancy
B. Election of Acting Mayor
C. Appointment of Official Depositories
D. Designation of Legal Newspaper
E. Appointment of City Consultants
F. Appointment of the Council to act as the
Personnel, Budget, and Capital Improvement
Committees
G. Appointment of City Representatives to
Community Education Advisory Boards
H. Appointments to the Planning Commission
6. PLANNING AND LAND USE
A. 1987 Conditional Use Permits
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7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Conference for Newly Elected Officials
B. Priority Setting
8. Adjourn