HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-01-87 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 1, 1987
Mayor Arlyn Christ called the City Council meeting to order at 7:00
p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Christ, Armstrong,
Johnson (arrived 7:30 p.m.), Moe, Graves, City Engineer Bohrer, City
Attorney Knaak and City Administrator Overby (arrived 9:00 p.m.).
1. Agenda
Add: 7C. School Warning Beacon, 9. EXECUTIVE SESSION
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve the agenda for the September 1,
1987 City Council meeting as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Minutes: August 18, 1987
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve the August 18, 1987 City Council
minutes as amended. (see page 4, 6B. Packard Park change year 1986 to
1976). (Motion carried 3-0-1<Abstain: Graves>).
3. Claims
Councilwoman Armstrong commented on Claims #89198-89200 (201
Condemnation Commissioners) that it was a goodly amount of money
($11,000+) paid to the commissioners for spending 9 hours of work.
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to approve the September 1, 1987 Claims
#89178 thru #89234 as presented. (Motion carried 4-0).
4. Landfill Committee Update
Dan Novak reported that the 8' x 16' sign that they intend to erect at
the park entrance is almost complete. He asked if the City would
consider waiving the sign and building permit that is required and
grant the four variances (setback from park, height, size, lot
setback) to avoid a public hearing because they would like to install
it before Labor Day. The two properties they are considering for the
sign is the Lyons -Hammes property or the Ron Smith property.
Councilwoman Armstrong suggested putting up for now with a smaller
temporary sign and then have a public hearing scheduled for the larger
sign.
On Thursday, September 10th there will be an informational meeting in
the Council Chambers and the Advisory Committee extended a special
invitation to the City Council to attend.
The meeting with Attorney Chuck Dayton will be changed from September
p.FR.
in the Gity G-A-unp--il
chambers.
Novak asked the City Council to extend their budget limit from $1500
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to $2000. A Fund Raising Committee has been set up and expected to
generate $1000 to $2000 in their account. The Committee would like to
reserve these financial assets for big expenses such as the
hydrogeoloigst and the attorney.
The City Council responded that they have been impressed with the
amount of work the volunteers have put in, but Councilman Graves would
like to see a plan submitted by the Committee to include what expenses
the Committee does foresee. The Council will look at the receipts on
a case -by -case basis rather than giving them a blank check for $500.
They encouraged the committee to pursue donations from the public.
Leslie Davis, Earth Protector Inc., is managing a story with the
Minneapolis Star and Tribune newspaper.
The County has issued the Committee a two -week pass to the park to
solicit signatures for their petition.
5. Public Inquiries
There were no public inquiries.
6. PLANNING, LAND USE & ZONING
A. PUBLIC HEARING: Robert & Mary Ellen Hosch
1. Request for Rezoning from Rural Residential to
Agricultural District
2. Request for Partial Vacation of 10th St. Lane
Large Lot Subdivision --Robert & Mary Ellen Hosch
Mayor Arlyn Christ opened up the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. in the
City Council chambers.
Robert Hosch has a purchase agreement to purchase 58.1 acres of
undeveloped land from the Dayton Hudson Company. The land is located
on the north side of loth Street, approximately 1/4 mile west of the
intersection of loth Street with County Road 19B. The property
surrounds Goose Lake on three sides; the southern side of Goose Lake
would still have public access via the road right-of-way on loth
Street (CR70).
Mr. Hosch has requested that the city vacate the portion of loth
Street Lane which is located entirely on this property. If granted,
the City should require that a cul-de-sac turnaround be provided at
the north end of the remaining segment of 10th Street Lane. This
cul-de-sac can be located entirely on the Hosch property, or an
agreement would have to be reached with the property owner on the west
side of road to obtain a road easement. The location of the
cul-de-sac will have to be specified on the Certificate of Survey.
Betty Herbert, represeting Dayton Hudson, passed out a copy of the
survey of the entire property.
The City staff became aware that Washington County has not turned back
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this road to the City. The County public works staff will attempt to
get County Board action on Tuesday 9-1-87 to approve the road
turnback. Betty Herbert reported that she was told by Sally Evert that
Washington County had approved giving 10th Street Lane back to the
City.
Herbert explained that Dayton Hudson would want any action that was
taken tonight not to take effect until the Hosch's are in title.
Dayton Hudson was not interested in the subdivision or rezoning, but
Robert Hosch was and they had not closed on the transaction.
City Engineer Bohrer reported that the 11 acre parcel is consistent
with the code, being a 3:1 ratio where the code is a maximum 4:1
ratio. Bohrer reviewed the proposed subdivision which meets the
dimension and frontages of our code and does not require any
variances. It would be appropriate to vacate a portion of loth Street
Lane now that it is the City's to vacate. The City would require a
certificate of survey revised to show half of the street right-of-way
on the cul-de-sac which would be 700 feet from the County Road.
Mayor Christ closed the public hearing at 7:43 p.m.
Councilman Graves commented that he would have a problem closing off
approx. 150 yards of public access to Goose Lake that is bounded by
loth Street. It was suggested to contact the DNR and also ask them if
they stock the lake with bass.
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to adopt Resolution 87-45 granting a large lot
subdivision to Robert and Mary Ellen Hosch for the 58.1 parcel of land
described in Exhibit A into two parcels: one containing 46.9 acres and
the other containing 11.2 acres; and contingent upon the applicants
successfully closing on the purchase of this property; and contingent
upon applicant providing a survey describing each of these two
parcels. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to adopt Resolution 87-49 granting a vacation
of that portion of 10th Street Lane that lies within the 58.1 parcel
of land described in Exhibit A, contingent upon written approval from
Washington County that it will turn back 10th Street Lane (County Road
30) to the City of Lake Elmo; and contingent upon applicant providing
a road easement for a cul-de-sac at the North end of 10th Street Lane
as recommended by the Lake Elmo City Engineer; and contingent upon the
applicant successfully closing on the purchase of this property.
(Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to adopt Ordinance 8005 amending Section
301.070 of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code rezoning the 46.9 acre parcel
of land that was subdivided in Resolution 87-45 from Rural Residential
to Agricultural; contingent upon the applicants successfully closing
on the purchase of this property. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. PUBLIC HEARING: David & Nancy Keane
Request for Variance to Setback from Normal Ordinary
High Water Mark on Lake Jane; Shoreland Permit to
Allow Filling Within Floodplain.
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Mayor Arlyn Christ opened up the public hearing at 8:08 p.m. in the
City Council chambers.
The applicant wishes to place fill under and around the existing
house, in order to raise the house 5 feet above the 100 year flood
elevation on Lake Jane. The house is located on the NE side of Lake
Jane.
Two variances are needed, in order to approve the Shoreland Permit for
the proposed project.
1. Variance to allow a 50 foot structure setback from
the NOHW mark, where 100 feet is required.
The site plan shows a 50' setback between the 922.0 NOHW elevation and
the house. The distance between the corner of the garage and the
922.0 elevation is approximately 25 feet.
2. Variance to allow placement of fill within the flood plain.
The applicant wants to place fill on the lot all the way to the 922.0
elevation, with tapering or sloping to that point. The 1979 Flood
Insurance Rate Map shows that the Keane property is located within
Zone B, between the 100 year flood boundary (with 925 elevation) and
the 500 year flood boundary. These flood district boundaries and
elevations will have changed, with the new NOHW of 924.0 on Lake Jane
and 100 year flood elevation of 922.0.
It was reported in an addendum that the DNR has not finished its
review of this application, but has indicated that it probably will
not approve the amount of fill that the applicants wish to put on
their property. The DNR was still waiting for comments from the VBWD,
Soil and Water Conservation, City of Lake Elmo and the "Fisheries"
Department of the DNR. The agencies have thirty -days to comment on
this application and these comments are due about September 20.
Mollie Comeau of the DNR felt that what the Keanes were proposing was
essentially filling in the lake bed and creating a peninsula. The DNR
feels there were alternatives to what the Keanes are proposing which
would not require as much fill, and it will address these issues when
all comments are in (VBWD, City of Lake Elmo, Soil & Water
Conservation).
City Engineer Bohrer explained that three permits were necessary:
VBWD, DNR (to work in beds of protected waters) and a shoreland
permit. Bohrer asked if some fill could be put on Lot 10 for looks.
He also suggested a silt fence be used because of the turbidity of the
fine soils.
A letter was received from Mr. & Mrs. Carl Paul, adjacent property
owners, stating they would give full approval to whatever the Keanes
need and want to do in order for the Council to approve their request.
Mayor Christ closed the public hearing at 8:18 p.m.
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Mayor Christ stated he would give his approval for the shoreland
permit and fill request because the application would not be more
non -conforming, but contingent on the DNR's approval.
Councilman Graves would be in favor of approving the shoreland permit
and fill request; contingent on DNR approval in order to speed up the
process.
Councilman Johnson wished to indicate to the DNR that he heartily
approved, but had two concerns: quality of fill and the conditions of
the footings on the house. Twin City Testing reported that the
footings were adequate.
Councilwoman Armstrong applauded the Keanes for raising their home,
but suggested holding off until they heard from the DNR.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to grant the request for a variance to the
setback from Normal Ordinary High Water Mark on the Lake and variance
to allow the fact that filling within the Floodplain to David and
Nancy Keane based on this application does not increase the
non -conformity; all contingent on the approval of this variance action
by the DNR. (Motion carried 4-1<Armstrong>)
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to grant a shoreland permit to David and Nancy
Keane for the proposed work; contingent on approval of this action by
the DNR, placement of virgin fill to be verified by the Building
Official and erection of a silt fence. (Motion carried 4-1<Armstrong:
Keanes have a good idea, but felt they should wait for the DNR
comments>).
C. Request for Comprehensive Plan Amendment & Approval
of Mixed -Use PUD Concept Plan -Federal Land Company
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to take off the table the request for
Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Approval of Mixed -Use PUD Concept
Plan by Federal Land Company. (Motion carried 5-0).
Mr. Bartholdi made a presentation on the request for a Comprehensive
Plan Amendment and on the PUD General Concept Plan at the August 4,
1987 City Council meeting. He had no further comments at this
meeting.
Although Phase I of the project was first brought before the Council
in October 1980 while the highway overlay district was in existence,
it was tabled at that time. City Attorney Knaak told the council that
the PUD must now be reviewed under the 1986 revised Comprehensive
Plan. An amendment to the 1986 Comprehensive Plan would be necessary
to grant approval.
Steve DeLapp, Chairman of the Planning Commission, pointed out that it
was stated by Federal Land that 165,000 cars are going past that
intersection in a day. DeLapp called the MN Dept. of Transportation
and found that there were 40,000 cars that go past Intersection 19
which makes a 4-1 difference in volume.
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Mayor Christ spoke in support of the Planning Commission's
recommendation for denial and the city staff's findings of fact and
called the proposal an inappropriate high density use that is not
consistent with our rural character and well beyond the boundaries of
the metro area at this point in time.
Councilwoman Armstrong has read the minutes of the City Council
meetings and the Planning Commission meetings and feels this is
inappropriate for our Comprehensive Plan and for the plans of the
City. Armstrong did not recall any map showing quarter sections that
would be Business along the highway.
Councilman Johnson explained this would be an appropriate development
if indeed the metropolitan sewer were extended to this facility, which
it is not. Even though the proposal included a plan for on -site sewer
treatment, the city could still be held liable if problems surface.
Any necessary remedial measure for such facilities are, as a rule, the
city's responsibility, Johnson quoted from a letter from Barbara
Senness of the Metropolitan Council.
Councilman Graves admitted he had concerns about details of the
project, but felt we were putting the cart before the horse since
Federal Land Company seems willing to work with the City. The Council
should first decide whether to allow PUD in the area and then modify
the project as necessary before proceeding to the next step.
Councilman Moe was in favor of amending the Comprehensive Plan for a
PUD and would be willing to work with Federal Land to come up with
something that is agreeable with the City.
M/S/F Moe/Graves - to approve the request by Federal Land Company for
a Planned Unit Development for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for a
General Concept Plan for a Mixed Use PUD at the NW Corner of Co.
Rd.19B and I-94. (Motion failed 2-3<Armstrong, Johnson, Christ>).
M/S/P Armstrong/Johnson - to adopt Resolution 87-46 for denial of the
amendment to the 1986 Comprehensive Plan to allow a PUD future land
use at the Federal Land Company Site based on the 11 Findings of Fact
prepared by the City Staff which proved the incompatibility of this
proposal with our Comprehensive Plan and based on the recommendation
by the Planning and Zoning Commission. (Motion carried
3-2<Graves,Moe>).
D. Final Plat--Springborn Green Acres 2nd Addition
This request is for Final Plat approval of an 11-lot subdivision
located north of Lake Jane, on a temporary cul-de-sac off of Jamaca
Blvd. N.
The Planning Commission reviewed the Preliminary Plat on 4-27-87 and
,
contingent upon the conditions in the City Engineer's review letter
and to look at an urban street versus a rural street.
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The City Council approved the Preliminary Plat on 6-2-87 "as
presented; subject to the lot lines being moved 50 feet to the north
in order to get one acre for septic system on one lot".
The Planning Commission voted on 8-24-87 to recommend that the City
Council approve the Final Plat, subject to including the road easement
for the temporary cul-de-sac.
City Engineer Bohrer's final plat review, dated August 24, 1987 to the
Planning Commission stated that the final plat has been reviewed for
conformance to the approved preliminary plat and the City Code. Lot
1, Block 1 was increased in size so that it meets the code requirement
for drainfield area. The developer proposed to furnish the city with
permanent road easements sufficient for the temporary cul-de-sac at
the south end of Isle Avenue. This method adequately protects the
city's interest in the cul-de-sac.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to adopt Resolution 87-47 approving the Final Plat
for Springborn's Green Acres 2nd Addition, subject to inclusion of the
easement for the temporary cul-de-sac on the plat map; contingent upon
the applicant conforming to the recommendations of the City Engineer,
which may include, but not be limited to applicant entering into a
developers agreement with the City, park dedication fee in the amount
of $250 per lot. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Final Plat --Lake Jane Highlands
This request is for Final Plat approval of an 8-lot subdivision
located NE of Lake Jane, on a cul-de-sac off Lake Jane Court.
The Planning Commission reviewed the Preliminary Plat on 1-26-87 and
again on 2-9-87. Approval by the City Council was recommended,
"contingent upon the correction of the safety problems that exist upon
the hill on Jane Court North by whatever means the City Council feels
necessary with a recommendation to extend Lake Jane Court to 45th or
47th Street and contingent on the approval of the drainage
requirements by the VBWD".
The Planning Commission voted on 8-24-87 to recommend that the City
Council not approve Lake Jane Highlands at this time due to the safety
problem which exists has not been properly addressed and that street
sanding alone was not sufficient.
City Engineer Bohrer reported in his Final Plat Review that Lake Jane
Highlands is in conformance with the City's platting requirements in a
letter dated August 24, 1987 to the Planning Commission. He added the
following request should be added to conform to the City Platting
requirements.
1. All lot corners shall be placed and shall be shown
on the final plat. The submitted plat only shows
the block corners.
2. Lot sizes, to the hundredth of an acre, shall be
shown on the final plat.
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M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adopt Resolution 87-48 granting final plat
approval to Lake Jane Highlands; contingent upon the applicant
conforming to the recommendations of the City Engineer, which may
include, but not be limited to applicant entering into a developer's
agreement with the City, park dedication fee in the amount of $250 per
lot. (Motion carried 4-1<Johnson: has a problem with the street
situation and is open for suggestions as to what can be done>).
The City Administrator and City Attorney will proceed with changes of
the ordinance for word change from "approved" to "reviewed" for Final
Plats by the Planning Commission.
F. Preliminary Plat --Packard Park 2nd Addition
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to take off the table the Preliminary Plat --Packard
Park 2nd Addition. (Motion carried 5-0).
This Preliminary Plat was discussed at the August 8, 1987 City Council
meeting. The City staff advised the City Council that the proposed
subdivision meets all City code requirements.
Residents from the Eden Park/Legion Avenue neighborhood were present
to comment on their existing high water problem with the pond behind
the homes on Legion Avenue.
The City Engineer was directed to "make an assessment" of the water
problem on Legion Avenue /Eden Park Pond and report back to the City
Council.
On September 1, 1987 City Engineer Bohrer made a field inspection to
determine the elevations of the lowest structures along the west sde
of Eden Park Pond. In his report dated September 1, 1987 to the City
Council Bohrer has attached a table which shows the results of the
investigation. Bohrer believed the biggest threat to Eden Park
homeowners will not be from Packard Park run-off, but rather from
nearby Downs Lake. That lake has a 100 year flood level of 894 which
was calculated by the VBWD.
Ann Bucheck, 2301 Legion Avenue N., spoke for the adjoining landowners
who believe the preliminary plat for Packard Park should be denied.
See Appendix A.
Linda Voge, 2257 Legion Avenue, pointed out that she was told by the
VBWD that she was prohibited from going on the 509 Plan.
The City Engineer will look into VBWD including Downs Lake in their
509 Plan.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to approve the preliminary plat for Packard Park
2nd addition, subject to the City Engineer's conditions as listed in
his letter of 8-7-87. (Motion carried 4-1<Armstrong: the cul-de-sac
is not the proper length, the entire property has not been rezoned as
yet, and the ponding should be on the proposal before them>).
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G. General Business Ordinance Amendment
Ed Gorman, owner of the White Hat restaurant, stated he did not want
to operate the proposed bakery with a conditional use permit because
it would not be possible for him to get a construction loan. He also
maintained that the bakery was not a manufacturing operation, and,
therefore, should be allowed. He said that manufacturing means "to
make by hand" which he does now by making his soup and buns. Gorman
also stated the City did not have control over whether his bakery
goods sold at wholesale. If someone comes in and buys a dozen
sandwiches then turns around and sell them at a higher price, this is
wholesaleing which he has no control over. He intends to use the
bakery goods in the Lake Elmo restaurants as well as his White Hat
restaurant in St. Paul, and then he would sell them, retail at the St.
Paul site.
Mayor Christ and Councilmembers Graves, and Moe agreed with Mr. Gorman
in amending the General Business zoning ordinance rather than issuing
a CUP. Johnson felt a bakery is a retail operation and should be
under General Business. He saw catering as being unobtrusive. The
only problem is when a operation goes beyond retail and affects the
City. Councilwoman Armstrong favored a CUP and asked Mr. Gorman what
he had to fear from using a CUP.
City Attorney Knaak explained his concerns that were stated in his
previous letter are still there, but if this is what the City Council
wants to do, this is way to do it by a General Busining zoning
amendment. Knaak added the wording "and catering incidental to a
restaurant" in the General Business zoning amendment.
Councilmember Johnson wanted to table action because he felt the
council would be acting too hastily and asked to see the ordinance at
the next meeting.
M/S/ Graves/Moe - to amend Section 301.070 D.7 of the Lake Elmo
Municipal Code to include (1)(t.) Restaurants, restaurants with
supporting and incidental retail sales bakery operation, and catering
incidental to a restaurant.
M/S/P Johnson/Armstrong - to table the motion for a General Business
ordinance amendment for further discussion until the next meeting.
(Motion carried 4-1<Moe>).
Mayor Christ explained that he voted in favor of tabling, even though
he supported the amendment, because he sensed that a vote on the
amendment would not have passed.
7. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Permit for Work in Protected Waters
(Eagle Point Lake) --Valley Branch Watershed District
The —wator-shed— isriet wants te-pepaee—a 2-4" eulvert at the —ell
earthern dam on Eagle Point Lake with a 73" concrete pipe arch
culvert. Washington County wants to maintain the trail crossing at
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this location, via the new culvert.
the work.
SEPTEMBER 1, 1987 PAGE 10
The watershed district will do
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to approve the permit application from the
VBWD for work in protected waters of Eagle Point Lake to replace an
existing culvert with a larger culvert. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. 201 Program --Grant Amendment Meeting Update
On August 17, 1987 a meeting was held with MPCA staff to work out the
remaining items necessary to award Part D construction contract and
amend the grant.
Award of Construction Contract for Part D Work
City Engineer Bohrer reported that the city has now received
permission from the MPCA to award the construction contract for Part D
work to the lowest responsive responsible bidder, Lake Area Utility
Contracting, Inc., for $579,027.00.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to adopt Resolution 87-49 awarding the
construction contract for Part D work to the lowest responsive
responsible bidder, Lake Area Utility Contracting, Inc. for
$579,027.00. (Motion carried 5-0).
Approve Amendment No. 3 to Engineering Agreement to Cover Work on
"Emergency Holding Tanks"
Prior to the award of contract for Parts A, B, C and D, four septic
systems became inoperable, requiring the installation of emergency
holding tanks. The engineering work necesssary to bid this work out
separately and inspect the work amounted to $4,211. This work is
grant eligible if included in the engineering agreement by amendment.
The amendment also extends the engineering agreement to agree with the
revised project schedule.
The City Council asked City Engineer Bohrer to update Dennis LaCroix,
Twin Point Tavern of his options under Part D.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve amendment No. 3 to the Engineering
Agreement for engineering work necessary to bid this work out
separately and inspect the work amounted to $4,211. (Motion carried
5-0).
Revised Project Schedule and Budqet Period Extension
City Engineer Bohrer provided a revised project schedule which will be
submitted to the MPCA.
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Nominations for VBWD Board Vacancies
City Administrator Overby will contact Al Dornfeld and Dick Murray to
see if they are interested in the VBWD nomination. The vacancies will
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be published in the Lake Elmo Newsletter for anyone interested to
contact the City office. The top three names will be submitted.
B. Update on the School Beacon
City Administrator Overby reported that he met with School District
834 and the MnDOT staff. The School District would take care of the
bids and the paperwork. The City and the School District will each
pay their 50 percent of the expenses.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 11:21
p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
APPENDIX A
Ann Bucheck, 2301 Legion Avenue North, read the following statement at the
September 1, 1987 City Council meeting.
We, the adjoining landowners, believe the preliminary plat for Packard
Park 2nd Addition should be denied for a number of reasons.
1. Lake Elmo City Code 401-240 Point 2E states that a preliminary
plat needs to contain the location and size of "culvert" or other
underground facilities within the tract and the distance of
350 feet beyond the tract". The preliminary plat that has been
submitted does not contain a culvert on Legion Avenue that
empties into Voge's property. This culvert brings runoff from
Peltier's down to Legion Pond and is significant to the
development and the impending problems the development could
produce. The plat needs to be properly drawn.
2. Lake Elmo code 401-380B stated taht "cul-de-sacs shall not be
longer than 800 feet" and the one for Packard Park is 900 feet
long. The developer has stated that he will not put the proposed
street through as drawn if the remainder of his land continues to
be zoned RR. We, nor the developer has a crystal ball and it
cannot predict the future of zoning. We must accept the present
zoning and ask for a cul-de-sac of 800 feet to meet Lake Elmo code.
3. Lake Elmo code 401.220 B3 point C states that "provision for
surface water disposal, drainage and flood control within the
boundaries of the proposed property division" should be in the
proposed design feature. Packard Park does not meet this code as
the ponding area is outside of that area which is being developed.
4. It has been stated in the past that the ponding has been placed on
the south side of Mr. Peltier's property and outside his
development because "water runs downhill". We have a geat deal
of fear that this is true and if the ponding is allowed to be
placed in its present location the rainwater seepage, drainfield
water, and runoff will seek the lowest point and add to the
flooding that Durands and Legion Pond have at this time. To
avoid future problems we feel the ponding area needs to be
moved to the north and onto the 2nd addition.
5. Mr. Bohrer feels that a pond needs to be built which will trap
a volumn of additional runoff generated by a 6-inch rainfall. We
do not feel this is sufficient due to the record amount of
rainfall we have had in the last 10 years --including the one the
end of July.
6. We are worried about the safety and welfare of those individuals
who will be moving into Packard Park and those who live on Legion
Avenue. The street, Legion Avenue, does not meet code, was
built in the flood plain and at some point will be under water.
If these residents need a safety vehicle the travel time will
be iIIULedbed and that time could mean the difference between
life and death.
7. If the development is allowed, we ask the city what responsibility
and obligation will the city have for the Durands and those
homeowners in Eden Park whose homes and drainfields could be
flooded. Will the City only allow 1 or 2 homes to be built each
year so that the water on Durands property and Eden Park Pond
can be monitored for contamination coming from Packard Park?
Will the city monitor Eden Park and Durand's pond and if the
water rises and indicating that the water is coming from
Packard Park will they stop all future building? If the city
acts now, it could prevent another Legion Pond!
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may seem
that decisions are preconceived. However, background information is
provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from City
Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also have
been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
SEPTEMBER 1, 1987
7:00 p.m. MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: August 18, 1987
3. Claims
7:05 p.m. 4. Landfill Committee Update
7:15 p.m. 5. Public Inquiries
(If none, then other non -hearing items may be
discussed at this time.)
6. PLANNING, LAND USE & ZONING
7:30 p.m. A. PUBLIC HEARING: Robert & Mary Ellen Hosch
1. Request for Rezoning from Rural Residential
to Agricultural District
2. Request for Partial Vacation of 10th St. Lane
Large Lot Subdivision --Robert & Mary Ellen Hosch
8:00 p.m. B. PUBLIC HEARING: David & Nancy Keane
Request for Variance to Setback from Normal
Ordinanry High Water Mark on Lake Jane;
Shoreland Permit to Allow Filling Within
Floodplain.
8:30 p.m. C. Request for Comprehensive Plan Amendment &
Approval of Mixed -Use PUD Concept Plan -
Federal Land Company
9:00 p.m.- - - - - - - - - - -B R E A K- - - - - - - - - - - -
9:05 p.m. D. Final Plat -- Springborn Green Acres 2nd Addition
E. Final Plat -- Lake Jane Highlands
9:15 p.m. F. Preliminary Plat -- Packard Park 2nd Addition
G. General Business Ordinance Amendment
7. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. Permit for Work in Protected Waters
(Eagle Point Lake) --Valley Branch Watershed
District
B. 201 Program --Grant Amendment Meeting Update
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Nominations for VBWD Board Vacancies
9. Adjourn