HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-20-87 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
OCTOBER 20, 1987
Acting Mayor Rose Armstrong called the City Council meeting to order
at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. Present: Armstrong,
Johnson, Graves, Moe, City Engineer Bohrer and City Administrator
Overby. Absent: Christ
1. Agenda
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to approve the October 20, 1987 City Council agenda
as presented. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Minutes: October 6, 1987
M/S/P Johnson/Moe - to approve the October 6, 1987 City Council
minutes as amended. (See page 6, 6. Valley Branch Watershed District
Pumping Project; Page 8, Section 32 & 33) (Motion carried 4-0).
3. Claims
City Administrator Overby asked for approval of 201 Program expenses
for $12,200+ accrued interest to Ed Gorman and approval of $7,300+
accrued interest to Mike Severin which have to be paid by October
26th.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to approve the October 20th, 1987 City Council
claims #89354 thru #89408 as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
4. Landfill Update
A. Legal and Engineering Needs for Landfill EIS
Todd Williams reported that the County has issued a draft EAW scoping
document. The Committee will discuss this draft and submit their
comments to the County by October 28th.
A REAPP (Recycle and Preserve Parks) financial summary of finances was
turned into the City Council. Copying, City engineering or City
attorney expenses were not included.
Todd Williams explained that Leslie Davis of Earth Protectors, Inc.
has supplied the committee with many articles about characteristics of
incinerator ash, tests that have been done, and articles on
landfilling practices in other areas of the country and recycling.
The committee definitely feels they are getting their monies worth.
Each councilmember had been contacted individually by Todd Williams
and Dan Novak regarding hiring Chuck Dayton to do an investigation of
the Gevenants, federal and state monies that were ased fur the Palk
and an accounting of what other legal options are available to fight
the landfill. Todd added that the Committee was disappointed that
City Attorney Knaak did not have his input on the information gathered
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so far, as he had promised to have it in on Friday so they would have
time to look at it. Also, the City Attorney was asked to respond to
Chuck Dayton's comments at the Special Meeting. These comments were
not in Knaak's letter that was handed out. Todd thought the whole idea
was to find out what Chuck Dayton would offer and at what cost versus
what City Attorney Knaak could offer. Todd asked the City Council to
approve the expenditure of $1000 to hire Chuck Dayton to do the work
on the covenants, state and federal monies and the legal options
available. If it came to the point when Attorney Dayton needed a
couple of $100, the committee would fund it out of their meager
treasury.
Councilwoman Armstrong was in favor of hiring Chuck Dayton who is
eminently qualified, but would like to see the City Council spend up
to $900 and the Citizen committee spend $100. Her reasoning for REAPP
paying some of this was it showed that there was some citizen input
into this money.
Wyn John, President of the Tri-Lakes Association, supported the
efforts to fight the landfill in the Regional Park. As far as
finances, he has not been able to get an official quorum together to
obtain a proper decision on the amount to be allocated, but this will
be decided at the next meeting (in two weeks).
Councilman Graves felt the City should proceed with some sort of legal
assessment of what our options are. Graves would be in favor of the
City spending up to $1000 for this. He did encourage them to request,
as a result of this analysis, that they clearly define what the legal
options are, when they should be exercised, what they would assess as
the probability of success in pursuing this and their best estimation
of what the legal expenses incurred would be to pursue each option.
In regard to the conflict of interest that Attorney Dayton has with
the City in that he is representing the Sunfish Lake residents in
litigation against the City, Councilman Johnson asked for an amendment
to the motion that a satisfactory release must be obtained both by the
City and the Sunfish Lake residents.
Councilman Graves asked for City Attorney Knaak to check into the
legalities of the City giving money to REAPP for hiring Attorney
Dayton to work for them. City Administrator Overby commented that it
should be construed that the City is hiring Mr. Dayton and he report
to the City Council. Graves added that he did not want it to be
presumed that because he is supporting the allocation of $1000 that he
would "carte blanche" support the expenditures of $100,000-$200,000.
These questions will be looked at as they come up .
Todd Williams stated that Fritz had agreed at their meeting last week
that it was important for the City to retain an engineering firm to
monitor the EIS and Todd was disappointed there was nothing in his
letter suggesting an engineering firm.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to approve spending up to $1000 to hire attorney
Charles Dayton to do a preliminary assessment of the legal issues and
strategy alternatives for the City in regard to Site G and the EIS
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with REAPP covering expenses incurred over the approved $1000; and
with regard to the conflict of interest between the Sunfish Lake
residents and the City being resolved. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. City Staff Comments on Draft Scoping EAW
The City received one copy of the draft "Site G Washington County
Landfill Siting EAW" on October 7th. The City Staff requested 7 more
copies of the draft EAW for the City Council, City Attorney and City
Engineer. These copies were provided by Washington County on October
14th. Due to the late date of receipt of the EAW copies, the City
Administrator handed out informal comments made by himself and the
City Engineer on the Draft Scoping. A comment letter written by City
Attorney Knaak was also handed out The Staff suggested that
Councilmembers briefly skim through their copies to gain some
familiarity with the content. Comments on the Draft Scoping EAW will
be provided to councilmembers once it is typed.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to authorize the City staff to formally comment
on the draft Site G Landfill Siting EAW in a letter to Washington
County. (Motion carried 4-0).
5. PLANNING, LAND USE AND ZONING
A. Garage Relocation: Request to Allow an Accessory
Structure to be Placed Closer to a Public Street
than the House; Paul Weber, 9179 Jamaca
Paul Weber wishes to move a 16' x 22' stucco garage onto his R-1 zoned
lot at 9179 Jamaca Court. A copy of written approval by adjacent
property owners and pictures of the garage and of the site were
available.
The Planning Commission reviewed this request on 9-28-87 and
recommended "to the City Council to allow a garage to be moved to the
Paul Weber property at 9179 Jamaca Court, based on the received
findings of the structure being compatible wth the stucco house and
with the neighborhood and meets the code by having only 1 out building
on the lot".
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to adopt Resolution 87-52 to allow Paul Weber to
relocate a 16' x 22' stucco garage to a location at 9179 Jamaca Court
with the understanding that the garage is closer to the street than
the house. (Motion carried 4-0).
B. Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Elimination of the
Industrial Park Zoning District
This proposal has been under discussion by the Planning Commission
since the 1986 Comprehensive plan was adopted by the City Council in
November of 1986. The reason for the zoning amendment is that the
1986 Comprehensive Plan only provides for existing
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operation. The businesses that are of an industrial nature now would
be rezoned to the General Business zoning district with the
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understanding that they would become non -conforming uses in the GB
zone and could not be expanded in size or scope. There was no
intention to put any existing business out of business. The plan makes
no provision for new industrial future land uses or support for such
rezoning. Lake Elmo Hardwood Lumber and Lake Elmo Feed Mill were
mailed copies of the meeting agenda and City Council information
sheet.
This ordinance amendment as drafted was recommended by the Planning
Commission for City Council approval after a public hearing was held
October 13, 1987. There was no one present to speak for or against
the proposed amendment.
Thomas Barrett, 3300 Piper, Jaffrey Tower in Minneapolis, representing
Joe Rogers, explained that passage of this amendment would mean he
could not expand or make additions to his business or if it was
destroyed in a fire he could not reconstruct it. All of these
limitations would affect his ability to sell his business. He would
not have full value of his business that he has built-up because
finding a buyer yesterday was higher than it is toda subject to
passing of this ordinance. (easier amended 11-3-87y}
Councilman Graves was generally in favor of this amendment with the
-exception--of the limitations it does put on the two existing
businesses. Therefore, he would not be in favor of this ordinance as
it exists because it states these business cannot expand or do
anything further which includes rebuilding it after it burns down, the
value of this business is severely restricted. He would be in favor of
returning this ordinance to the Planning Commission and get the legal
input from Attorney Knaak so it would not restrict those two existing
businesses.
Planning Commission Chairman Steve DeLapp commented that it was not
his interpretation of the Planning Commission to put anyone out of
business, but if the company burned down it should be able to rebuild.
The Planning Commission wanted to have all the existing industrial
uses in the City to be able to be maintained without any intent to
shut them down, but the intent was to eliminate this category for
further developemnt.
Councilwoman Armstrong thought we should check into how much land
these two businesses occupy and how much expansion can be done because
it is next to a residential area.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to ask the City Staff to contact City Attorney
Knaak and explain the City Council's objective (to have the ability of
the business to continue to exist and operate in a manner that they
would have previous to the deletion of the Industrial Zoning) and for
him to make the appropriate change in the General Business ordinance
to reflect this objective of these two specific businesses are allowed
uses under the provisions of the pre-existing limited Industrial
Zoning and report back at the next meeting. (Motion carried 4-0).
C. Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Additions, Deletions
and Changes to the General Business Zoning Distict.
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The proposed ordinance changes originated in part from the discussion
on elimination of the Industrial Park Zoning District, and also in
part from the ordinance amendment request to allow a retail bakery or
catering business in a GB zone. The Planning Commission was not
excluding car washes becauae they didn't like them, but because of the
water disposal techniques.
The Planning Commission prepared its own draft ordinance amendment and
discussed it in a public hearing on October 13, 1987. Nobody was
present to speak for or against the proposed ordinance amendment.
The City Council reviewed the Planning Commission draft dated October
13, 1987. The following changes were made:
(1) The following service/office uses: Amend:
(r) Bakeries with production of bakery goods limited to
retail sales.
(2) The following retail uses: Add:
(b) The retail sale and leasing of automobiles and
automobile accessories
(c) The retail sale of marine craft and accesssories.
(f) The retail sale of misce �'V� �> such as
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the following: Add: Nu a.' a :n supplies
(g) Automobile repair and se
(3) the following repair/servicE
(g) Landscaping services
(h) Food Catering services
(5) Uses Permitted by Conditions Add:
(c) Bed and Breakfast facilities - 15 beds maximum
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to table for City Council approval until after
the Planning Commission's review of the General Business draft on
October 26, 1987. (Motion carried 4-0).
D. Final Plat Approval: Tartan Meadows 3rd Addition
City Engineer Bohrer had reviewed the final plat of Tartan Meadows 3rd
Addition and had compared it to the approved peliminary plat and
applicable City Code. The final plat does conform to the approved
preliminary plat and City Code. Bohrer recommended the following
changes in his letter dated October 9, 1987.
(1) lot size shall be shown on the plat for each lot in hundredths of
an acre and;
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(2) the drainage and utility easement in Lots 2, 3, 4 and 5 of Block
Two, which abut the EXCEPTION should be 10 feet in width, rather than
5 feet as shown. It is doubtful that the EXCEPTION will ever be
platted and a companion 5 foot wide easement dedicated on its lot
lines.
These changes have been completed, therefore Bohrer recommended that
the final plat be approved.
Developer Willard Morton handed out a copy of the covenants tht exist
on Tartan Meadows (first, second and third addition).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adopt Resolution 87-53 granting final plat
approval to Tartan Meadows 3rd Addition, contingent upon applicant
conforming to the recommendations of the City Engineer, which may
include but not be limited to applicant entering into a developers
agreement with the City and a park dedication fee in the amount of
$250.00 per lot. (Motion carried 4-0).
6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. 201 Project - Partial Payment No. 1, Lake Area Utility
City Engineer Bohrer recommended approval of Partial Payment Estimate
No. 1 to Lake Area Utility Contracting for work performed in September
in the amount of $155,348.82.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to approve Partial Payment No. 1 to Lake Area
Utility Contracting in the amount of $155,348.82 for Part D 201 work
performed in September, 1987.
7. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
The City Attorney was not present and did not provide a written
report.
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
The recent resignation of Ron Reuther creates a vacancy for Second
Alternate on the Planning Commission.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to approve moving Ed Stevens from First
Alternate to regular member status and moving Rob Enes from Second to
First Alternate. (Motion carried 4-0).
A. Planning Commission Vacancy - Interview Applicants
Two people have applied: Bruce Beutel, 3590 Laverne Avenue N, and Alan
Kunde, 4171 Irvin Circle North.
Alan Kunde has lived in Lake Elmo for 8 years and likes Lake Elmo as a
rural eafmmunity witii the- ability to La- I LEM a tdintly tri a rural
atmosphere, not as a crowded suburban atmosphere which he left in St.
Paul. Lake Elmo is close to the Twin Cities and major transportation
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arteries and a very friendly rural area. He could live with the
Comprehensive Plan that doesn't have sewer and does not want to live
with a high industrial site.
Bruce Beutel has lived in Lake Elmo for 55 years and finds Lake Elmo
is an excellent place to live. He felt the City has a unique chance
of having good residential areas not high density, but it also has
areas for commercial. He felt that the area on I-94 has good business
potential and the existing business there now does not impact the
people living in Lake Elmo. Beutel felt the Erickson proposal was
self-contained, the septic system would be adequate, excellent site
for traffic from Chicago and he didn't see any problems. In time,
changes may be needed in the Comprehensive Plan.
Councilman Graves felt both applicants were well -qualified and
concerned about the community. Based on the application submittal
date and the longer experience with the community, Graves made the
following motion.
M/S/F Graves/Moe - to appoint Bruce Beutel as the Second Alternate on
the Lake Elmo Planning Commission. (Motion failed 2-2<Armstrong:
Kunde could give a fair interpretation of what came before the City,
Mr. Beutel has taken a definite stand on how he would like to see the
City grow and she does not agree with it, Johnson: Has much respect
for Bruce Beutel, but had concerns on Beutel's view of proposals that
came before the City on I-94 being very high density and a potential
problem for the City without municipal sewer and not appropriate for
areas outside of Section 32-33.>).
There was discussion to table this until the next City Council
meeting.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to appoint Alan Kunde, 4171 Irvin Circle North,
as the Second Alternate to the Lake Elmo Planning Commission. (Motion
carried 3-1<Moe>).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 9:45 in the
City Council chambers. (Motion carried 4-0).
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may seem
that decisions are preconceived. However, background information is
provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from City
Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also have
been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL
OCTOBER 20, 1987
7:00 p.m. MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Approval of Minutes: October 6, 1987
3. Claims
4. Landfill Update
7:05 p.m. A. Legal and Engineering Needs for Landfill EIS
7:30 p.m. B. City Staff Comments on Draft Scoping EAW
5. PLANNING, LAND USE AND ZONING
8:00 P.M. A. Garage Relocation: Request to Allow an Accessory
Structure to be Placed Closer to a Public Street
than the House; Paul Weber, 9179 Jamaca
8:15 p.m. B. Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Elimination of the
Industrial Park Zoning District
8:30 p.m. C. Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Additions, Deletions
and Changes to the General Business Zoning
District
8:55 p.m. D. Final Plat Approval: Tartan Meadows 3rd Addition
9:00 p.m .------------------------B R E A K ---------------------------
9:05 P.M. 6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. 201 Project - Partial Payment No. 1,
Lake Area Utility
9:10 P.M. 7. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
9:15 p.m. 8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Planning Commission Vacancy - Interview
Applicants
9. Other Business
10. Adjourn