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LA°{ ELMO CITYY COUNCIL MINUTES
NOVEMBER 17, 1987
Mayor Christ called the City Council meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. in
the City Council chambers. Present: Christ, Johnson, Armstrong,
Graves, Moe (arrived 7:40 p.m.) City Engineer Bohrer, City Attorney
Knaak and City Administrator Overby.
1. Agenda
Add: 8C. Advertisement for City Administrator, 8D. City Christmas
Party, 8E. Second City Council meeting in December, 8F. Section 32-33.
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to approve the November 17, 1987 City Council
meeting as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Minutes: November 3, 1987
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to approve the November 3, 1987 City Council
meeting minutes as amended. (See Page 3: Public Inquiries, Page 6: C.
Request for Shoreland Permit). (Motion carried 4-0).
3. Claims
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to approve the November 17, 1987 Claims
#89466 thru #89527 as presented. (Motion carried 4-0).
4. Landfill Update
Todd Williams reported that REAPP is embarking on a telephone campaign
which is a follow-up on the flyer they have distributed.
Todd also reported that no word has been received from Attorney
Dayton. City Administrator Overby explained that in his
correspondence to Mr. Dayton a timeline was not set for his legal
analysis and report to the City Council.
City Administrator Overby asked Todd to report on the 11-17-87 County
Board Meeting where Todd spoke to the Board and showed them they had
over 2300 signatures from Washington County. REAPP has requested that
the County allocate 5 percent of the EIS funds to REAPP and the Lake
Elmo City Council so that an independent consultant can be hired to do
an objective review of the EIS information. The County Board will act
on this request at its meeting on 11-24-87. The County Board will
hold a workshop on the draft EAW on 12-1-87 and decide on 12-15-87
whether to accept the draft EAW and authorize the public hearing
notice in the EQB Monitor.
Todd and Dan have meet with the Valley Branch Watershed District which
has directed their engineer Nels Nelson to present written comments to
the County.
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5. PLANNING, LAND USE AND ZONING
A. PUBLIC HEARING: Request for Variance to R1 sideyard setback
requirement. Applicant: Robert Tompkins,
3291 Lampert Ave. N.
Mayor Christ opened up the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. in the City
Council chambers.
Mr. Robert Tompkins would like to build an addition onto the south
side of his garage at 3291 Lampert Avenue North. The footings hau
been installed prior to Mr. Tompkin's realizing that a permit was
necessary. Mr. Tompkins is requesting a variance allowing the
addition to be within 1.88 feet of the side property line where a
10-foot sideyard setback is required. The applicant submitted a
survey of the property to show the setbacks.
A letter was submitted by Leonard and Sharon Johnson, neighbors on the
southside, stating that the use and enjoyment of their property would
not be affected by the garage expansion. Therefore, they would offer
this letter to support the variance request.
Mr. Tompkins' friend and contractor, Tim Reed, stated they cannot
expand the garage to the rear (east) because of the new septic system.
The only way he can go is south. There is access on the south side
for pumping the system. They will also be keeping the garage the way
it is with no overhang.
Mayor Christ closed the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
The City Council could not determine if there was a hardship because
of the alleged existence of a previously existing carport that was in
approximately the same location as the proposed garage addition. The
question raised was the concern of the distance from the sidewall of
the existing garage to the newly surveyed property line.
City Administrator Overby pointed out that Mr. Tompkin's action to
remove an existing carport -style roof overhang and an existing ab,halt
parking area eliminated a non -conforming situation. Also, if the
garage wall is 10 feet or farther from the sideyard property line,
then the current situation would conform to City ordinances. The
requested variance would change a conforming situation to a
non -conforming situation.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to instruct the staff to determine the distance
from the property line to the previously existing blacktop, to the
previously existing carport and to the existing garage as it exists
today. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. Continuation of request for variance to lot size, lot width,
and setback from Normal High Water Mark:
Applicant.q- Joseph and Donna Hinrichs, 8126 Hill Trail N.
This request was discussed in a public hearing on 11-2-87. The City
Council tabled action until this meeting so that city staff could
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review late -submitted soil test information on the proposed septic
drainfield site and so that "findings of fact" could be prepared for
the variance request.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to remove request for variances from Joseph and
Donna Hinrichs off the table. (Motion carried 5-0).
Joseph and Donna Hinrichs proposed to purchase the property at 812E
Hill Trail North from Steven Grabski and construct a home thereon.
The site plan, as proposed, would require at least three variances.
This matter was continued from the last meeting so that the City
Attorney could prepare findings of fact on the matter. The City
Attorney distributed his findings of fact dated November 17, 1987.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to deny the shoreland permit and variance
requests by Joseph and Donna Hinrichs for 8126 Hill Trail N. based on
the City Attorney's findings of fact dated November 17, 1987. (Md(ion
carried 5-0).
In a related matter, the Building Inspector was instructed to inspect
the abandoned cabin on the property and determine if the house should
be condemned and demolished. If there is an abandoned well, it will
have to be closed in an acceptable manner.
C. Large Lot Subdivision, Douglas DeCoster
Mr. DeCoster wishes to subdivide 40 acres of Rural Residential zoned
property into two 10 acre lots and one 20-acre parcel. The property
is located one-half mile west of the intersection of loth Street and
Inwood Avenue.
The two lots and the one parcel all meet the zoning ordinance
requirements for lot area, width and depth. The generalized soil
survey map indicates that the soils on the two 10-acre lots are
suitable for septic systems. A 50 foot minimum structure setback from
the right-of-way property line is required by City Code. Washington
County will be upgrading CO. Road 70 in 1990 and the minimum setback
from the new road will then be 125 feet from the road centerline after
the County purchases the right of way. The applicant and/or potential
purchasers should be aware of this.
The Planning Commission reviewed this request on 11-9-87 and
recommended that the City Council approve the application by Douglas
DeCoster to subdivide a 40 acre parcel with the provision that land
purchasers be informed of the County road project and the need for a
125 foot setback.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to adopt Resolution 87-54 approving the large lot
subdivision request by Douglas DeCoster to split an existing 40 acre
parcel located in the SW corner of Section 28 into two 10-acre lots
and one 20-acre parcel provided that land purchasers be informed of
the scheduled upyradiny of CC). Rd. 70 (t0th Street) arid tile s
need for a 125 foot setback and contingent on the applicant providing
the City with a Certificate of survey and park dedication fee for the
newly created lots. (Motion carried 4-0-1<Abstain: Armstrong>).
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D. Rezoning from Rural Residential (RR) to Agricultural (A)
Douglas DeCoster/Thomas Armstrong.
The request for rezoning is application by Mr. DeCoster. The property
concerned involves a 20 acre parcel of RR zoned land abutting 10th
Street on the South and abutting Mr. Tom Armstrong's property on }he
east and the south.
The City Code requires (Section 301.090B Contiguous Parcels) that the
20 acre parcel "be combined with adjacent lots or parcels under the
same ownership so that the combination of lots or parcels will equal
one or more parcels of land each meeting the full lot width and area
requirement of this Ordinance."
Mr. Armstrong explained he intends to combine the 20 acre parcel with
his adjacent property, so that it can meet the 40 acre lot size
minimum needed for Agricultural zoning. The combination of parcels
will be done before the publication of the ordinance amendment
allowing the rezoning from RR to Agricultural.
The Planning Commission reviewed this request on 11-9-87 and
recommended that the City Council approve the request.
Concilman Graves asked City Attorney Knaak if there was any problem
where part of the 114.6 acres are Ag and the other portion of land is
Ag Preserve. Knaak res(onded that there was no problem.
Rose Armstrong asked City Attorney Knaak if he felt she had a conflict
of interest in downzoning from RR to Ag and no economic gain. Knaak
responded that it was a conflict of interest, but it was a judgement
for her to make.
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to adopt Ordinance 8009 for rezoning 20 a --es
of land located on 10th Street in Section 28 from Rural Residential to
the Agricultural zoning district (legally described as the Southeast
1/2 of the Southwest 1/4 of the Southwest 1/4 of Section 28, Lake
Elmo) as being consistent with the 1986 Lake Elmo Comprehensive Plan,
subject only to the requirement that the 10 acre parcel be combined
with adjacent parcels prior to the effective date of the rezoning.
(Motion carried 4-0-1>Abstain: Armstroriq>).
E. Zoning Ordinance Amendment: Parks Corn ;.;; on f4eet_i nc -
The Pa" Jil-lar Illeeting from the first
Monday to the third Monday of the month. The ordinance needs to be
amended to allow this meeting change. The City staff felt that the
meeting requirements could be deleted from the Code and put in the
City's Policy Book. This change would allow future meeting schedule
changes without having to amend the ordinance again.
The City Council discussed this ordinance amendment at the meeting and
requested a copy of the draft ordinance amendment prior to taking
action.
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M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to table action on the ordinance amendment to
the Parks Commission section on metings until a draft is provided at
the December 1st City Council meeting. (Motion carried 5-0).
6. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
A. 201 Program
(1) Part D - Partial payment #2 to Lake Area Utility
City Engineer Bohrer reported that most systems are in and
functioning. Only Oakland School pump station and four septic tanks on
Legion Avenue remain. Some of the restoration work may have to carry
over to next year because of a shortage of sod. Bohrer recommended
approval of Partial Payment No. 2 to Lake Area Utility Contracting for
work performed in October in the amount of $253,772.42.
M/S/P Graves/Johnson - to approve Partial Payment No. 2 to Lake Area
Utility Contracting on Part D of the 201 Program for $253,772.42 based
on the City Engineer's recommendation. Motion carried 4-0).
Moe was not present to vote)
(2) Part D - Change order on electrical work.
City Engineer Bohrer distributed copies of proposed Change Order Nos.
4 and 5. Change Order No. 4 was for electrical work necessary in
extending the electrical service from the NSP pole on Legion Avenue to
the pump station site. This change order is in the amount of (Add)
$1,500.00 and does appear from discussion with the MPCA to be grant
eligible.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve Change Order No. 4 of Part D for
electric work necessary in extending the electrical service from the
NSP pole on Legion Avenue to the pump station site in the amount of
$1,500.00. (Motion carried 4-0). (Moe was not present to vote).
Change Order No. 5 was for additional electrical work at Oakland Jr.
High School. Four specific work items were listed for a total change
order price of (Add) $1,941.50. Oakland Jr. High pays for all the
work that goes on that site. The conduit was dug up and found to be
severed in one place by Cable TV so there will be some additional
labor and materials necessary to repair this conduit. City
Administrator Overby will contact the school about writing a letter to
Cable TV on cutting this line.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong - to approve Change Order No. 5 of Part D for
additional electrical work at Oakland Jr. High School in the amount of
$1,941.50. (Motion carried 4-0). (roe was not present for vote)
(3) Parts A, B, C - Final acceptance and payment to
Widmer, Inc.
City Engineer Bohrer reported that they were not ready for final
acceptance and payment to Widmer., Inc on Parts —ABC Thp rnrpq of
Engineers and PCA expressed interest in making a site visit before
this was done. Bohrer recommended holding off final payment to
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Widmer, Inc. on Parts A-B-C of the 201 program until 12-1-87. Bohrer
informed the Council that the final contract will be $50,000 under the
original bid.
Todd Williams asked what provisions are being made for annual
inspection and maintenance of the systems installed under the 201
Program. Bohrer responded that this Winter the City Council will be
dealing with the ordinance to change this. The Council had discussed
in the past with the on -site septic systems to set up a reporting card
system. The only maintenance these systems will require is the
removal of the solids from the septic tank every one to two years.
With the reporting card system when any of the license pumpers in the
City pumps the tank, they will fill out the postcard and return it to
the City Hall where they will keep a running total of who has pumped
their system and who has not. If certain people have not pumped, they
will be reminded or notified by the City to do this. If they still do
not do this, the City will do it and charge them back. The City will
have more responsibility on the off -site and collector systems with
the two larger pump stations or some of the sewer maintenance that is
in the street. There will be a type of a sewer bill for this
maintenance and will probably be based upon flow.
B. 1987 Evaluation Report, Lake Jane Landfill
The City Council reviewed the annual evaluation report prepared by
Washington County on the efforts to clean up the Lake Jane Landfill.
The City Council raised several questions regarding which organic
compounds are tested for. How many feet to the Jordan Aquifer? What
can the City do about this potential problem?
Chart 4-1 in the evaluation report, shows that over the past several
years only about 320 pounds of chemicals have been removed by the air
stripping method. This is equivalent to about one barrel of
contaminant.
The Council felt that four years of water stripping was not doing
anything to solve the problem and Coucilman Moe asked the City
Attorney what could be done. The City Attorney will outline for the
City Council what can be done in this matter.
Councilman Johnson suggested that the City should put pressure on the
PCA to not accept the engineers report from Ramsey and Washington
County.
The Council requested that County Public Health staff attend the
meeting on 12-1-87 to discuss the report and answer questions.
C. Abandoned Wells - Quotes on cost of closure.
City Engineer Bohrer reported that over the years the City has
obtained ownership of substandard properties by tax forfeiture. Four
of these properties have wells that are no longer in use. One well is
located in ane's DeMontreville Country Club Addition and two wells
are located south of 28th Street and Ivy Avenue and one well located
at Triangle Park on 50th Street. According to Minnesota Health
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Department rules, wells that are no longer in use shall be abandoned.
This abandonment consists of removal of the pump and any other
mechanical equipment, and filling the casing with cement grout. The
estimated cost is $500-700 per well.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to authorize the City Engineer to solicit quotes
for cost of closing up abandoned wells on City property. (Motion
carried 5-0).
7. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
City Attorney Knaak suggested deleting this item because he has
offered his monthly written report on attorney activities.
8. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
A. Quotes on cost of water systems pressure gauges/alarms.
Maintenance Foreman Dan Olinger and the City Administrator have talked
with representatives from two companies which can supply and install
the equipment needed to monitor water pressure in the City's water
lines. A quote was received from Water Products Company. One unit
would go in at the City Hall and a second one at Bud Schneider's house
on Lake Elmo Avenue with possibly a third one at the Fire Hall.
There was discussion on how elaborate of a system was needed and at
what cost and at what locations should these alarms be installed. The
Council suggested tabling this for more information and other quotes.
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to table a decision on selecting a quote for
providing a gauge/alarm system for the water system in the Old Village
until the December 1st City Council meeting. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. Wire Feed Welder
Maintenance Foreman Dan Olinger would like to purchase a Millermatic
200 wire feed welder to aid them in the repair and building of their
equipment. They would be able to build our own park gates, picnic
tables or anything else that is needed to be done.
Olinger explained that the difference in a wire feed welder over the
AC -DC welder that we have now is the wire feed is primarily used on
welding steel of aluminum that is 1/4" or thinner. The AC -DC machine
is used for all our heavy duty welding on the backhoe, loader, plows,
truck, etc.
Prices were received from three dealers in the Twin Cities area.
Northern Gases $1475.00
Buettner Welding Supply $1525.00
Oxygen Service $1545.00
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to approve the Maintenance Department request to
purchase a wired feed welder from Northern Gases in the amount of
$1475.00; contingent on money found in the Maintenance Budget.
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(Motion carried 5-0).
C. Advertisement for City Administrator
City Attorney Knaak recommended that the Council prepare a job
description for the City Administrator's position before advertising.
The City Council will discuss the job description at a special meeting
on 12-1-87 from 6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at the City Hall.
M/S/P Armstrong/Graves - to table action on placing an advertisement
in the newspaper for the City Administrator's job. (Motion carried
5-0).
D. Christmas Party
The City Council decided that the annual recognition dinner for staff
and volunteers (Christmas Party) will be held on Friday, 12-4-87 from
5:30 to 7:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. Coffee cups will be
ordered and invitations sent.
M/S/P Graves/Armstrong. - to hold the Christmas Party on Friday,
12-4-87 from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. in the City Council chambers with a
budget set up to $400. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Second Meeting in December
The City Council decided to cancel the December 15, 1987 City Council
meeting unless an emergency arises.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to cancel the December 15th, 1987 City Council
meeting unless an emergency arises. (Motion carried 5-0).
F. Section 32-33
The idea of e ablishing a citizens advisory committee on economic
development N�egUggested and agreed upon by the Council. Since then
only three Lake Elmo residents have volunteered to serve on the
committee and none of the Section 32-33 landowners. at an earlier meeting.
The City Council discussed the status of this committee and decided to
charge the Planning Commission with the task of studying the issue,
look at available facts, costs and benefits and report back with a
recommendation. The people who volunteered to serve on the economic
development committee will be invited to participate in this decision,
along with Section 32-33 landowners and anyone else who resides in
Lake Elmo. The City Staff will prepare a newsletter article.
The City Council expects to have a report from the Planning Commission
within 60 to 90 days from now. They felt this should be enough time
to discuss and analyze the question and then make a recommendation.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 10:15 p.m.
(Motion carried 5-0).