HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-19-88 CCMLAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JANUARY 19, 1988
Mayor Arlyn Christ called the City Council meeting to
p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Christ,
Graves, and City Attorney Knaak. Absent: Armstrong
1. Agenda
order at 7:00
Johnson, Moe,
Add: 10. City of Lake Elmo Expenses, 13. 1988 Planning Commission
Work Plan; Delete: 6. Planning Commission Reappointments, 7. Parks
Commission Reappointmensts
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to approve the January 19, 1988 City Council
meeting agenda as amended. (Motion carried 4-0).
2. Claims
Councilmen Moe and Graves questionned the authorization of claim
#89773 for painting of the mural in the entryway. Finance Director
Marilyn Banister explained that this could be considered part of the
total Building package that was authorized two years ago. The mural
was not approved specifically when the building was initially speced
out. Moe felt the mural was distasteful and felt $500 was too much to
pay.
Finance Director Banister reported that the welder for the Maintenance
Dept. (claims #89720) will be taken out of the 1988 Budget because
they (Maint. Dept.) do not have enough money for payment in the 1987
Budget.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to approve the January 5, 1988 Claim #89720
(Northern Gas Inc.-Maint. Dept. Welder) to be paid out of the 1988
Budget and to approve the January 19, 1988 Claims #89763 thru #89812
as presented with the exception of #89773 Twin Gables Ent. -painting of
mural in entry way. (Motion carried 4-0).
3. Minutes: December 1, 1987
M/S/P Johnson/Graves - to approve the December 1, 1987 City Council
meeting minutes as presented. (Motion carried 3-0-1 <Abstain:
Graves>).
Minutes: January 5, 1988
Councilman Graves asked to insert the discussion between himself and
Building Official McNamara on inserting Appendix E into the Building
Code.
M/S/P Moe/Grave - to approve the January 5, 1988 City Council meeting
minutes as amended. (Motion carried 3-0-1 <Abstain: Christ>).
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4. Site G Landfill
I Todd Williams - E.A.W. Public Scoping Meeting
Dan Novak reported that the Stillwater Council unanimously voted to
pass a resolution to the Washington County Board of Commissioners
opposing the landfill in the park. This brings the total to 7 or 8
resolutions from 30 townships and cities within the County.
One of the RE.A.P.P members, Gary Carlson, has applied for a County
Waste Management Committee position. If he is appointed, this will
give them some influence in the County Waste Management
decision -making process.
In the first meeting of the new year, RE.A.P.P. made some New Year
Resolutions in terms of objectives and priorities. Dan passed out to
the council RE.A.P.P.'s objectives and priorities for 1988. In
summary, aside from the EAW/EIS which is top priority, the #1 priority
will be fundraising. They are also thinking seriously about another
legislative effort this year. This time they will handle it
differently and will be meeting with Gary Laidig and Harriet McPherson
next week or the following week to discuss this.
A petition encouraging the City to use all resources available to
oppose the landfill including spending a percentage of the budget
surplus has been circulating in the City. Just over 37 percent of all
the residences are represented by his petition and will be presented
to the Council at a later date.
The Tri-Lakes Board unanimously passed a comparable resolution
opposing the landfill earlier this month. Copies were given to the
City Council. The Tri-Lakes Association has donated $200 to RE.A.P.P.
for their fight in opposition of the Site G landill.
Funds raised to date as a result of the recent phone campaign are
$2,306. They have a checkbook balance currently of $2,680.
ban informed the Council of the Public Scoping meeting set for Monday,
January 25th at the Washington County Government Center Boardroom.
Dan felt this meeting was extremely critical and felt it was important
that the City, besides REAPP, is represented at this meeting. Dan
suggested that the Council authorize City Engineer Larry Bohrer and
City Attorney Fritz Knaak to be present at the public hearing. He
felt it would be appropriate for the CouncilmembXs to be there and
added that Leslie Davis from Earth Protectors, members of the Sierra
Club and possibly the Audubon Society will be there in opposition of
the Site G landfill. Invitations have been extended to Gary Laidig
and Harriet McPherson.
Todd Williams explained that this meeting is to get input as to issues
to be covered uder the Environmental Impact Statement. The Council
felt that City Engineer Bohrer was well -qualified to speak on
technical issues and should present this data on behalf of the City.
Mayor Christ suggested Attorney Dayton attend this meeting. Novak
felt it would be very appropriate for City Attorney Knaak or Attorney
Chuck Dayton to speak on the legal issues that should be resolved
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before we invest a half a million dollars in this study. Knaak
responded that he would be happy to do it, but Chuck Dayton has done
some preliminary legal work and felt it would make sense to have him
present this. Knaak felt this was an important part in the process
and technical issues could be raised. Knaak was willing to approach
Attorney Dayton and would be perfectly willing to let this be Dayton's
show.
Mayor Christ felt we had better take all the expertise we can get and
that he was prepared to do whatever we have to do to stop this thing.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to direct City Attorney Knaak to interact with
Attorney Chuck Dayton to attend the Public Scoping Meeting set for
January 25th at a fee of up to $600. (Motion carried 4-0).
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to direct City Engineer Bohrer to review the EAW in
detail and prepare his comments accordingly. (Motion carried 4-0).
The Council authorized Todd Williams and Dan Novak to interact with
the City Engineer and City Attorney for issue coordination in order to
avoid redundancy.
5. Selection Process for New City Administrator
The City Office has received 73 applications for the City
Administrator position. Mayor Christ has suggested that each
councilmember select five applications that they feel would qualify
for the position. The Council should then be able to reach a
consensus as to which candidates should be interviewed.
Councilman Moe stated that he has yet to figure out why we even need a
City Administrator and asked if it was written in stone that we have
to have one. Moe felt that every time we don't have one, everything
still moves. He asked what major things is a City Administrator going
to do in a city of 6,000. Moe suggested that they might look at
another clerk typist to help with the workload.
Graves felt that someone was needed who would have the responsibility
to act in this function of an office manager and referred to the
correspondence that Bob Overby had prepared directed towards other
agencies and responsibilities.
Mayor Christ stated that what Lake Elmo needed is a unified
administrative front instead of several employees working without much
coordinating. Strong issues like the Site G landfill need a strong
city administrator to handle them. Christ added that maybe 5 or 6
years ago a strong administrator could have nipped it in the bud
before it got to the point of the county approving it.
Councilman Johnson agreed with Moe, but felt with a strong
administrator or good manager some of the rougher spots the city
experienced in the last year may have been avoided if he was on top of
things. Johnson added "If a city manager can keep us out of one
lawsuit, it might pay his salary for several years." Moe responded
that he didn't buy his particular argument. He doesn't see any city
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administrator keeping them out of a lawsuit --they are the only ones
that can do that.
Moe again stressed that the office staff is short of help. He doesn't
see a city administrator being the type of help that is needed. Mayor
Christ agreed that maybe the Council should authorize some needed part
time clerical help.
City Attorney Knaak thought it would be helpful if he looked into the
state statutes and legal ramifications of not having a city
administrator which the Council agreed to. The Council decided to
continue reviewing the applications and continue discussion on what
the Council wants in a City Administrator as far as duties and
responsibilities.
6. Planning Commission Appointments
There is one vacancy on the Planning Commission for the Second
Alternate position. Joseph Kieffer had withdrawn his application.
Two applications have been received:
Linda Stone Applied 11-9-87
2390 Legion Lane N.
Dean Johnston Applied 1-13-88
8200 Hill Trail
Councilman Graves felt that both applicants were qualified candidates.
Graves favored the appointment of Dean Johnston based on the fact that
he served previously on the Planning Commission and had contributed
greatly to the Planning Commission and took his position responsible.
Mayor Christ agreed with Dean's statements in his application about
preserving the fine quality of life in Lake Elmo and work towards
that.
Councilman Johnson agreed with the appointments, but warned the
Council against putting a diproportionate number of people from the
northern end of the city of the commission. Graves expanded this to
include other people from the community such as business owners,
farmers, from the Section 32-33 area, and the northeast part of the
community.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to appoint Dean Johnston, 8200 Hill Trail, as
Second Alternate of the Lake Elmo Planning Commission, but at the same
time recognizing the fine credentials and earnest interest on the part
of Linda Stone. DeaRt�, A-1 rep].aoe(AL-^-^KMde as 2nd Alternate (Motion carried 4-0).
Rob Enes will move up to ull voting member replacing Steve Raleigh.
7. Parks Commission Appointments
The City received one application for the open seat on the Parks
Commission:
Gary A. Lee Applied 12-24-87
8251 Deer Pond Ct. N.
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M/S/P Moe/Craves - to appoint Gary A. Lee, 8251 Deer Pond Ct. N., to
i' the'Lake Elmo Parks Commission as Second Alternate. Gary will
rej?lane Sharon Simpson as Second Alternate. (Motion carried 4-0).
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8. Lake Jane Landfill Update - County Staff
Mary Luth and Paul Josephson, Washington County, were present to
answer questions on the 1987 Evaluation Report on the Lake Jane
Landfill.
Mary Luth explained that the counties' short-term goals include the
prevention of further migration of the pollutants and the continued
clean-up and monitoring of residential -area wells. Luth stated that
they have seen significant improvement in this area and the levels of
contaminants are generally down and, in some places, are now
undetectable.
Another short term goal is to restore the landfill area to a community
park facility, Luth said. The Counties also will continue using the
two gradient -control wells aleeady working inside the landfill, and
they may add a third gradient -control well in the future.
Councilman Graves asked about new contaminants showing up in the NW
wells that were not there before. Josephson responded that the two NW
wells have exceeded the criteria before and still do. Graves asked if
new contaminants have been found there. Josephson answered that vinyl
chloride was detected this past summer. The MPCA may have tested for
this, but he would have to check the records.
Long-range goals for the landfill clean-up are continued monitoring,
maintenance and pumping of contaminated wells. Mary Luth reported
that it would take up to 30 years for the project to be shut down, or
"final site disposal" and that the 30-year timeframe is consistent
with other projects around the country. Luth stated that by the year
2018 all residential wells would be clean.
Councilman Graves was surprised at the time span necessary to clean up
the landfill and asked if this was acceptable. Luth responded that 30
years is probably not acceptable to anyone affected by the
contaminated wells, but it's the best the counties can do in terms of
this project.
Councilman Johnson asked how "clean" is clean. Luth responded that in
terms of addressing the long term, they are talking about no levels of
contaminants being found in the year 2018.
BecaUSe of a snowstorm making the roads drift over and causing
hazardous driving, the City Council decided for safety reasons to
adjourn the meeting. The Council asked the county staff to come bank
and finish their presentation at the February 2nd City Council meeting
which they agreed to.
M/S/P Graves/Moe - to adjourn the City Council meeting at 8:40 p.m.
(Motion carried 4-0).
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it may
seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background information
is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in advance from
City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are based on this
information and past experiences. In addition, some items may also
have been discussed at previous Council meetings. If you are aware of
information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to
Appear Before the City Council" slip; or, if you came late, raise your
hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
Items requiring excessive time may be continued to another meeting.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
JANUARY 19, 1988
7:00 p.m. MEETING CONVENES
1. AGENDA
2. CLAIMS
3. MINUTES: DECEMBER 1, 1987
JANUARY 5, 1988
7:10 P.M. 4. SITE G LANDFILL
TODD WILLIAMS - E.A.W. PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING
7:40 P.M. 5. SELECTION PROCESS FOR NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR
6. PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS
7. PARKS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS
8:00 P.M. 8. LAKE JANE LANDFILL UPDATE
COUNTY STAFF
9:00
P.M .
.............. BREAK .......................
9:10
P.M.
9. CITY ENGINEER'S CONTRACT
(CONTINUATION)
10. MAINTENANCE REQUESTS (CONTINUATION)
11. CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROPOSAL (CONTINUATION)
12. CITY HALL POLICY