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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 16, 1993
Mayor John called the city council meeting to order at 7:06
p.m. in the city council chambers. PRESENT: Mayor John,
Mottaz, Conlin, Johnston, Johnson, City Engineer Bohrer,
City Attorney Filla and Administrator Kueffner.
1. AGENDA
Add: 5E. Police Contract, 8B. Update on Olson Lake Pond,
8C. 1993 MSA Feasibility Study, 8D Preparation for Storm
Water Utility Information meeting.
M/S/P Johnson/Johnston - to approve the February 16, 1993
City Council agenda as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
2. MINUTES: February 2, 1993
M/S/P Mottaz/Conlin - to approve the February 2, 1993 City
Council minutes as amended. (Motion carried 5-0).
3. CLAIMS (No claims list)
PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL
Valley Branch Watershed District Vacancy
Diane Kruse, Oakdale, has submitted her resignation from the
Valley Branch Watershed District Board of Managers effective
February 19, 1993. A copy of the County's advisory board
application form is available at City Hall and a list of
nominees will be considered prior to March 5, 1993. This
vacancy will be advertised on cable.
Traffic Figures on 10th Street
Steve DeLapp, 8468 Lake Jane Trail, stated that the figures
that Washington County used in a prior meeting were
inflated. He feels that the road, if it were remodeled,
could handle 14,000 vehicles per day when the county used
11,500 in the year 2010. He asked the council to consider
this long term alternative --Fix the roadbed, including
shoulders, and resurface the driving lanes for County 10 to
accommodate a 45 mph two-lane 40 foot wide urban profile
after a 1/4 mile taper from a four lane section between I-
694 and Helmo. Include at state cost, the full amount of
the landscaping allowance. By installing curbs and limiting
speeds to 45, trees and shrubs can be planted to separate
the road from adjacent houses and wetlands and be
aesthetically desirable.
The Council listened, but didn't feel it was the right time
to discuss the issue without the County present. The
Council decided to continue on with the county's plans.
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5. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Gene Peltier: Minor Subdivision with variance,
10376 Hudson Blvd.
Bruce Folz, representing Gene Peltier, explained that Gene
wants to start conveying his property to his children. At
their December 9, 1991 and July 13, 1992 meeting, the
Planning Commission recommended Mr. Peltier rezone the 22
acres to RE and plat the outlot at 2.5 acres and request a
variance from the 250' diameter requirement with the
hardship being it would create an odd shape lot due to the
location of the existing house and would hinder future
platting access and design which is how Mr. Peltier
proceeded.
M/S/P Conlin/Mottaz - to direct the staff to draft an
amended resolution for the March 2nd council meeting
granting a minor subdivision with two variances for lot
configuration, 250' circle and the 3:1 ratio requirement in
the RE zoning district based on the stated hardships.
(Motion carried 5-0).
B. Sampson Accessory Building
Mary Woodward read Attorney Magnuson's (Sue Sampson's
attorney) letter dated February 16, 1993 to the Council.
Barbara Otto asked that Mayor John abstain from voting on
this matter because he has taken a very partisan viewpoint.
He has been out to the Tjosvold property, and she didn't
know if they wined and dined him, but he seems to have taken
their information as fact.
The Council received a letter from Brian Tjosvold and Cindy
Zehrer Tjosvold, 8890 15th St. N., stating their concerns
and reasons why the Sampson barn cannot be overlooked.
Attorney Filla reported he has reviewed Attorney Magnuson's
letter, dated February 16, 1993, and offered the following
comments: He did not think that the Lake Elmo Code is
difficult to interpret. When this was discussed in the
past, the indication was clear that if there are other
violations in the neighborhood they should be pursued. He
asked the applicant to provide him with any other
information that they might have regarding other non-
conforming uses and Sampson refused to give that
information. In this case, red -tag indicates that the
property owner was notified not to proceed because the
building was not conforming to city code. In spite of the
request of the Washington County Sheriff, construction
continued.
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M/S/P Mottaz/Conlin - to instruct the City Attorney to take
the necessary actions to force compliance to the city code
on the Sampson barn. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Johnston/Mottaz - that the City Administrator notify
the property owners identified by Attorney Filla that they
are in violation of the ordinance and should bring their
structures into compliance. (Motion carried 5-0).
C. Resignation of Parks Member
M/S/P Conlin/Johnston - to accept Karin Enes' resignation
from the Parks Commission and appoint Kevin Heichel as
second alternate, Steve Peterson as first alternate and Judy
Blackford as a full -voting member. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Conlin/Johnson - to direct the staff to send a letter
to Karin Enes expressing the city's appreciation of her work
on the Parks Commission (Motion carried 5-0).
Applications under two years old on file for various city
commissions will be considered when there are vacancies.
D. Response from Rob Enes, PZ Member
The Council asked for an explanation of why he was absent
from the Planning Commission meetings in 1992. Enes
explained in a letter that he had a conflict with his
schedule that he has revised for 1993.
E. Police Contract
Councilman Mottaz brought up his concern that there is no
breakdown of costs, patrol hours, days of service, reporting
time, stated in the city's law enforcement contract with
Washington County. The City Administrator will get a
response on services from the Sheriff's Dept and copy for
the Council.
6. PLANNING/LAND USE & ZONING:
A. Forest Management: Ed Stevens
Ed Stevens, 10133 47th Street N., has requested a permit to
do some tree thinning on his property. Stevens has planted
approximately 8,000 seedlings on his property in the past 30
years and he wishes to weed them out. The trees would be
hauled out the end of February and/or the beginning of
March. The City notified residents within 350 feet of Mr.
Stevens' property of his intentions. There was no one
present to speak for or against the request.
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The City received a letter from Larry Westerberg, DNR
Forester, indicating the pine stand in question is overly
dense and needs to be thinned to improve the overall health
and vigor of the trees. He did not expect any adverse
effects to the remaining trees as a result of this thinning.
Several council members indicated that the ordinance in the
present condition was poorly worded. Mr. Westerberg has
recommended a few changes and indicated he would meet with
the city.
MIS/ Mottaz/Johnson - to allow Ed Stevens, 10133 47th Street
N., a permit to thin trees (2,000) on his property.
M/S/P Conlin/Johnson - to amend the motion to include
requiring a $250 bond in case of street damage caused by the
log removal company. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnson - to allow Ed Stevens, 10133 47th
Street N., a permit to thin trees (2,000) on his property
and require Mr. Stevens put up a $250 bond in case of street
damage caused by the removal company. (Motion carried 5-0).
Larry Bohrer, City Engineer, recommended pads be placed
under the feet of the hydraulic stabilizer arms so that
there be no direct contact with the pavement and voiced his
concern that there may be some damage done to the ditch
which would require repair in the Spring.
B. Request from Jaycees to have Huff'n Puff Dance
Linda Wagner, Lake Elmo Jaycees, requested the city's
permission to have a street dance on August 14th in the
parking lot at the Lake E1mo.Hardwood Lumber as they did
last year. They explained that it is cost prohibitive to
hold the dance at the County Fairgrounds. If they use the
parking lots at Brookfield II and City Hall, they loose
control of the crowd with the open area and in the past the
insurance coverage was extreme because of what was requested
by Brookfield. Also, Oak -land Jr. High prohibits liquor.
Residents in the neighborhood have indicated to the city
that they will tolerate the ball tournaments, but not the
loud music at the dance. Even though the music quit at
midnight, there still were people talking until 2:30 in the
morning.
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnston - to direct the city administrator to
try to get the concerned residents to meet with the Lake
Elmo Jaycees and Council to discuss a solution that would be
acceptable to them and the Jaycees. (Motion carried 5-0).
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FEBRUARY 16, 1993
C. Resolution No. 93-10 , Opposing House File 220-
Annexation of MN/DOT Lands from City of Lake
Elmo to Oakdale
D. Section 32
Attorney Filla reported he attended a meeting called by
Representative Pamela Neary which was also attended by
Oakdale Attorney Caswell, Oakdale Planner Brommer and
Representative Walt Perlt. The purpose of the meeting was
to review the procedure which results in the introduction of
House File 220 and to review general issues relating to
Section 32 and Section 33 annexations.
If passed, House File 220 would allow Oakdale to
Petition the Municipal Board for authority to annex the
Mn/DOT property located in Sections 32 and 33. The
Municipal Board has indicated to the City of Oakdale that
the Board does not have authority to hear a petition
presented solely by Oakdale under the current provisions of
Minnesota Statutes Chapter 414.
The Council reviewed the draft Resolution and added the
following statement after the first Now Therefore: AND BE IT
FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Lake Elmo City Council requests
that the City of Oakdale direct its representatives to
withdraw this pending legislation.
last paragraph: ....offers to meet with the Oakdale City
Council in order ....
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnson - to adopt Resolution No. 93-10, as
amended, A Resolution in opposition to House File 220 and a
copy of the resolution be sent to Rep. Neary, Senator Gary
Laidig and the Oakdale City Council. (Motion carried 5-0).
E. Ordinance 8084, Floodplain Regulations
M/S/P Johnson/Conlin - to adopt Ordinance 8084, An Ordinance
adding Section 303.020 C.3. and Section 303.100 B and
amending Section 303.050 E.2. and Section 303.080 C. of the
1979 Lake Elmo Municipal Code as it relates to Floodplain
Regulations. (Motion carried 5-0).
F. Ordinance 8085, Shoreland Regulations
M/S/P Johnston/Johnson - to adopt Ordinance 8085, An
Ordinance adding Chapter 308 and Repealing Chapter 307 of
the Lake Elmo Municipal Code relating to Shoreland
Regulations. (Motion carried 5-0).
M/S/P Johnson/Johnston - to adopt Summary of Ordinance 8085
relating to Shoreland Regulations as presented. (Motion
carried 5-0).
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7. PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT:
A. C.I.P. Trailer for hauling blacktop roller
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnston - to approve the request for a
maintenance trailer for the maintenance department from
Carlson Equipment at the cost of $1,725.00 plus tax (6.5%)
and to forgo another review by the Maintenance Advisory
Committee as they already reviewed this request for
purchase. (Motion carried 5-0).
B. C.I.P. Purchase of four-wheel drive utility tractor
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnson - to direct the staff to forward the
request by the Public Works Dept. for a four wheel drive
utility tractor at a cost of $47,000 without trade, (trade
in $7,500-$12,000) to the Maintenance Advisory Committee for
review and ask that their recommendation be brought back to
the city council. (Motion carried 5-0).
8. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT:
A. Discussion on Uniform Street Assessment Policy
City Engineer Larry Bohrer gave a presentation on a more
uniform method of assessments for street overlays and
reconstruction.
Councilmember Conlin felt more discussion was needed because
she felt this was coming from a particular interest group
and didn't know if it warranted the city to change its
policy. Up until this time assessments were charged per
unit, and there was not one assessment appeal for the 17
street projects done by the City. Conlin voiced her problem
with this being pushed through over the entire city. She
felt the policy the city was following was the fairest, but
they should further discuss MSA projects.
Bohrer will provide cost figures for street improvements
using the modern subdivisions such as Arabian Hills or
Stonegate for discussion at the next council meeting.
B. Olson Lake Estates
Bohrer reported that he had talked to Karen Chandler, VBWD
engineer, who indicated that conditions have improved and
the threat is less than a couple of weeks ago. First of
all, the pond level in Olson Lakes Estates has gone down six
inches. This means the pond has continued to seep out the
bottom even though the top is frozen. Secondly, the
estimated water content in the snow in the whole watershed
that is tributary to this area has decreased from an
estimated 2.1" of equivalent water to 1.7" of equivalent
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water. All the results on the water quality testing done by
the VBWD are not in. Bohrer will update the council every
two weeks on this situation.
C. 1993 MSA Feasibility Study
The Council had authorized a preparation of a feasibility
report for the reconstruction of Jamaca Avenue from TH5 to
Lake Jane Trail and Lake Jane Trail from Jamaca Avenue to
Jane Road. Bohrer informed the council that a survey has not
been done on Lake Jane Trail so he does not have the
information to answer detailed questions at the public
hearing; such as proximity of trees or if Lake Jane Trail is
in the center of the r-o-w. Bohrer was not promoting the
expenditure of these funds, such a survey would cost $5,000,
but was asking the question as to what level of detail does
the council feel should be provided. The survey would need
to be done anyway if project is ordered. The survey cost is
covered by MSA funds if project is ordered.
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnston - to authorize TKDA to perform a
survey for Lake Jane Trail from Jamaca Avenue to Jane Road
at a cost of not more than $5,000. (Motion carried 5-0).
D. Preparation for Storm Water Utility Information
Meeting
Larry Bohrer will provide the Council with a synopsis of his
presentation for this meeting. If the council feels
something needs to specifically be addressed, they should
call him. Councilman Johnson asked for an explanation on
our relationship with the VBWD and how our plan has to fit
in with theirs.
9. CITY ATTORNEYS REPORT: None
10. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS:
Mayor John reported he attended the February 11th
meeting of the Valley Branch Watershed District. He was
disturbed to find that no agenda was in circulation prior to
the meeting and that minutes of previous meetings were
distributed in batches. The chair indicated that a phone
call could determine agenda items. In the absence of
minutes and vague descriptions of agenda subjects, John
considered this to be prejudicial to Lake Elmo interests and
contrary to the intent of the open meeting regulations. John
wrote to the Board of Soil and Water Management, which
oversees watershed activities, asking for the regulations
and the mandates of Watershed Districts to be reviewed. In
situations which can impact the interests of neighboring
cities, it is vitally important that the Watershed Districts
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are even handed in their treatment of those cities'
interests.
Mayor John indicated he received a letter from Barb
O'Neal, Mayor of Oak Park Heights, challenging the City of
Lake Elmo to participate with the Cities of Stillwater and
Bayport in the annual Stillwater Jaycees Leukemia Bowl-a-
Thon. It will be held on March 13 at the St. Croix Bowl.
Registration is at 12 noon with bowling starting at 1:00
p.m. The City Administrator will try to gather a team.
11. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
A. Insurance Renewal
David Holmberg, Zignego Agency Ins., sent a renewal summary
from Berkley Risk Services, Inc. This is to serve as a
premium summary and insurance binder to continue the
coverage for the City of Lake Elmo through the League of
Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust. The premium is quoted at
$700 less than it was for 1992/93. A quote for Excess
Liability Coverage was also included.
M/S/P Johnson/Johnston - to approve the renewal for the
city's 1993/1994 liability insurance package thru the League
of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust (Berkley Risk Services,
Inc.) in the amount of $27,858.00 as proposed by Zignego
Agency Inc./Insurance in its letter dated February 5, 1993,
and as in past practice, to decline the offer to carry
excess liability as proposed by Zignego Insurance. (Motion
carried 5-0).
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnston - to adjourn the city council meeting
at 11:20 p.m. (Motion carried 5-0).
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Resolution No. 93-10, Opposing House File 220-Annexation of
Mn/DOT Lands from City of Lake Elmo to Oakdale
Ordinance No. 8084, Floodplain Regulations
Ordinance No. 8085, Shoreland Regulations
Since we do not have time to discuss every point presented, it
may seem that decisions are preconceived. However, background
information is provided for the City Council on each agenda item in
advance from City Staff and appointed Commissions; and decisions are
based on this information and past experiences. In addition, some
items may also have been discussed at previous Council meetings.
If you are aware of information that hasn't been discussed,
please fill out a "Request to Appear Before the City Council" slip;
or, if you came late, raise your hand to be recognized. Comments that
are pertinent are appreciated. Items requiring excessive time may be
continued to another meeting.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 16, 1993
7:00 P.M. MEETING CONVENES
1. AGENDA
2. MINUTES: February 2, 1993
3. CLAIMS (No claims list)
4. PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Gene Peltier: Minor Subdivision with
variance, 10376 Hudson Blvd.
B. Sampson Accessory Building,
8940 15th Street
C. Resignation of Parks Member
D. Response from Rob Enes, PZ Member
E. Other
6. PLANNING/LAND USE & ZONING:
A. Forest Management: Ed Stevens
B. Request from Jaycees to have Huff'n Puff Dance
C. Resolution No. 93- , Opposing House File
220-Annexation of MN/DOT Lands from
City of Lake Elmo to Oakdale
D. Section 32 (over)
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FEBRUARY 16, 1993 2
E. Ordinance 80 , Floodplain Regulations
F. Ordinance 80 , Shoreland Regulations
7. PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT:
A. C.I.P. Trailer for hauling blacktop roller
B. C.I.P. Purchase of four-wheel drive utility
tractor
C. Other
8. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT:
A. Discussion on Uniform Street Assessment Policy
B. Other
9. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
10. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS:
A. Mayor Johnson
B. Councilperson Conlin
C. Johnson
D. Johnston
E. Mottaz
11. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
A. Insurance Renewal
12. ADJOURN