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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
AUGUST 9, 1994
TIME OF THE MEETING WAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE #622 SCHOOL
DISTRICT REFERENDUM ELECTION
Mayor John called the special meeting to order at 8:06 p.m. in the city council
chambers. PRESENT: Mottaz, John, Johnson, Johnston, City Planner Schwanke,
Finance Director Banister, and Administrator Kueffner. ABSENT: Conlin
1. AGENDA
M/S/P John/Johnson - to approve the August 9, 1994 Special Meeting agenda as
presented. (Motion passed 4-0).
2. Discussion of Sanitary Sewer Options for 1-94
Mayor John commended Administrator Kueffner on her persistence with identifying the
presence of this available 380,000 gallons a day capacity in the face of Metropolitan
Council's denial.
Administrator Kueffner reported there is approximately 380,000 gallons a day capacity
( that could be made available in the Wone interceptor south of 1.94 at a cost estimated
to be $285,000. Anything short of a 1,000 acres MUSA extension would have to be
paid by the person who petitions or who gets the capacity. Administrator Kueffner and
Planner Schwanke met with the Met Co. on Wednesday where they verified that the
capacity is there, that our original application was reviewed in a way that no other
application has been reviewed before. They used the supply and demand issue that
was the basis for which they turned us down and did not use this method prior to our
application or since. Based on what the city knows now, Administrator Kueffner
suggested resubmitting our application for the 440 acres. One of the arguments is
going to be that Oakdale needs additional capacity, they're 90% developed and Lake
Elmo is not. Lake Elmo may not get all the capacity, but it is very important we get our
application in before Oakdale does.
Steve Schwanke explained there are three principal issues that have to be addressed:
1. Sanitary Sewer Capacity issue. The improvements can be made and address the
financing of the improvements
2. Justify the addition of the expansion of the MUSA area. The council does that by
taking a look at the supply which we currently have in the urban service area and
calculate demand for the next 10-15 years for land to be placed in the urban service
area. This will be difficult justification for Lake Elmo because they have very little land
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in the urban service area and where that justification comes from primarily is past
experience.
Schwanke estimates 20-40 hours to make the application acceptable. Bohrer will have
to update some cost figures, because he already did his work for the previous council
on the premise that the improvement downstream was going to be made by someone.
According to Bohrer's report we need the 380,000 gal. per day to service the entire 440
acres that we originally planned.
3. Met Council contended that Lake Elmo had not provided diversity of housing.
Approx. 30% off our city is in affordable housing. 56% of the people in the Old Village
qualify for LMI (Low Medium Income)
Estimated cost $3,500-$4,000 to prepare our resubmittal. Mottaz asked if we had this
money in our planning budget. Finance Director responded its not defined as such in
the budget, but we have money to cover under council contingency reserves,
Schwanke explained there are a couple ways of looking at it.
Short term: Capacity constraint if you are able to develop an interim system that
addresses that constraint it opens up about 380,000 gallons a day of capacity. Doubts
Lake Elmo would get access to all of that. During the planning amendment review, the
Met Council and Waste Control Commission would probably call in the cities of Oakdale
and Lake Elmo and say we do have capacity here, Lake Elmo is requesting a lot of it,
we know Oakdale has capacity problems and would probably give some of that
capacity to Oakdale.
Long term: City would have to take a look at the entire 1-94 corridor looking at
approx. 1,000 acres to be added and justifying the extension of Cottage Grove Ravine
interceptor through Cottage Grove through Woodbury and to the southern border of
Lake Elmo. Now the plans call for the interceptor not to go through the city of
Woodbury. If it doesn't go through the city of Woodbury, Lake Elmo will not have
access to it. We have sent a letter, spoken publicly on record, but as of yet the
centralization/decentralization plans have not changed.
Mottaz asked how much of the $285,000 can we assess to this 440 acres that would
benefit: Schwanke responded it could all be assessed, as well as engineering, legal,
and financing the plan.
Kueffner pointed out that Clarence Enright owes approx. $156,000 (Wone Interceptor)
in Green Acres which is a large portion of that improvement. As soon as that land
changes hands, this money is due.
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Council member Johnson voiced his understanding that the City Administrator and
Steve Schwanke had a meeting with Met. Council and have determined that there is
capacity to serve the 440 acres if there is an improvement downstream that we have
talked about. This is independent of any sewer capacity that exists in the WONE now.
You have discussed with Bohrer that the 380,000 per day is sufficient for full
development for the 440 acres. Kueffner explained this is based on our business park
development plan.Johnson asked, "Do you think that this request would be granted this
time around?" Kueffner stated, "our original application was unfairly turned down.
They used criteria in review of our application that was never used before or since. In
this meeting, they are admitting to this. They are suggesting that we submit our
application."
Schwanke stated there are a number of reasons for filing a timely application:
Woodbury is contemplating submitting an expansion. Oakdale has currently an
application for expanding the urban service area at the Met Council, but has been
placed on hold at the moment. If Oakdale's and Woodbury's amendment does goes
through, it would be easy for the Met Council to say, "we added all those areas to the
urban service area, you are part of the metropolitan area, sorry Lake Elmo, there's no
justification for us to add any more". The council's policy document that regulates this
whole area is going to change soon. The criteria in the new document is more
restrictive than the criteria in the old document. No one has yet to commit when that
new document is going to be placed into affect. (Guess is a couple of months).
M/S/P John/Mottaz - to direct the staff to prepare an application for resubmission of this
request for extension of MUSA for 440 acres at a cost not to exceed $5,000 with the
submission of application brought back to the city council before the public hearing is
called. (Motion passed 4-0).
3. Discussion of Finance options for 1-94 Sanitary Sewer
M/S/P John/Johnston - to schedule a council workshop with Kathy Aho, Springsted
Financial, on Monday, August 15, 7 p.m. to discuss finance options for the 1-94 Sanitary
Sewer. (Motion passed 4-0).
Mayor John closed the special meeting at 9:05 p.m
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Mayor John called the Budget meeting to order at 9:08 p.m. PRESENT: Mottaz, John,
Johnston, Johnson, Finance Director Banister, Administrator Kueffner and
representatives from the Lake Elmo Fire Dept.
1. Discussion with Fire Department on 1995 Budget
The Council discussed each line item in the Fire Department's 1995 Budget. The
following items were changed:
Firemen's Compensation (4% increase on calls & officer's pay)
Equipment Parts & Repair
$6,000
Office Supplies
1,000
Uniform Supplies
2,500
Education & Training
8,500
Dues & Subscriptions
700
Physicals
2,500
Fire Prevention
2 500
Haz Mat
Major Supplies
3,000
12,000
Fire Department CIP:
There was discussion on capital additions. Personnel Carrier-$25,000 in 1995. Fire
Chief Sachs explained the main purpose of the personnel carrier is for transportation to
chief's meetings, fire schools, capital cities, parts & supply running --a people mover.
This vehicle would eliminate the need to take a rescue truck out of service and
eliminate the use of personal vehicles for fire department business.
Fire Dept. & Land Acquisition for 3rd Station-$100,000. Banister explained that this
would have to be a bond issue.: Administrator Kueffner felt a needs assessment
should be done for station #3 and look into the possibility of combining services with
other communities. Possibly serve areas of Baytown better and provide service faster.
There was discussion on if the amount of equipment is really needed; such as the
ladder truck, responding to accident calls. The city has received complaints on the
number of equipment responding to an accident that are not medicals. It was
suggested that an article be placed into the newsletter explaining to the public which
Fire Department equipment responds to what accidents.
Councilman Johnson indicated he would like to see the $94,784 that was spent on the
equipment certificate be put into reserves in 1995. He also suggested that Mike
Bouthilet, Parks Supervisor, put together a CIP for the Parks Dept..
The Council made it clear that at this time they were not formalizing this budget, but
had to take the budget to public hearing.
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The Council set the next Budget Workshop for the Maintenance and Parks Department
on Tuesday, August 16, 1994 at 6 p.m before the council meeting.
M/S/P Mottaz/Johnston -to adjourn the budget workshop at 10:10 p.m. (Motion passed
4-0).