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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
OCTOBER 1, 1996
I.AGENDA
2. MINUTES:
3. CLAIMS
4. PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL:
A. Public Inquiries
B. Recognition of Louise Friedrich as Washington County Senior Citizen of the Year -
(Postponed to October 15, 1996)
5. CONSENT AGENDA:
6. PLANNING, LAND USE & ZONING:
A. Public Hearing: Variance to lot size and side yard setback for an addition to an existing home.
Applicant: Steve Continenza
B. Modifications to expansion plans to Lake Elmo Inn, 3442 Lake Elmo Avenue,
Applicant: John Schiltz
C. Modifications to expansion plans for home at 10899 32nd Street, Applicant:Mike Downs
D. Proposed amendments to Sections 301.070 N.16, Subdivision 7 and 301.070 D. Subdivision 7B of
the Lake Elmo Municipal Code relating to the Open Space Preservation District
E. Letter from Meehan's requesting reconsideration of the fence between Torre Pines and the
Armstrong Property
F. Concept Plan - Robert White property located on the Southwest corner of Highway 36 and Keats
Avenue
G. Rezoning From Ag to OP:Robert White
7. PARKS/MAINTENANCE:
A. Interim Plan for Maintenance/Fire Department
B. Tree -Trimming Policy
C. Street Light at Highway 5 County Road 17 Intersection (Postponed to 10/15)
D. "Crime Watch" Signs in Cimarron Park (Postponed to 10/15)
E. Gravel on 50th Street
F. VFW Ballfield - Offer to purchase
G. Sign Ordinance
8. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT:
A. Call Public Hearing for Section 33 Utilities Assessment
B. Replace Cost of Water Meters
C. "No Passing" Signs in the City
D. Escrow reduction for Beaut Crest Estates
E. Washington County Plan for Manning Avenue
F. Update on Paving Shoulders on Olson Lake Trail
G. County Road 13 Assessments
H. 30th Street
9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
10. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
A. Agreement to Terminate Non -Conforming Use:Bob Johnson, 10323 47th Street
11. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS:
12. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
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Mayor John called the council meeting to order at 7:00 p.m in the council chambers. PRESENT:
DeLapp, Hunt, John, Conlin, Johnston, Administrator Kueffner, City Attorney Fills, City Engineer Prew
and City Planner Terwedo
1. AGENDA
M/S/P Johnston/Hunt - to approve the October 1, 1996 City Council agenda as amended. (Motion
passed 5-0).
2. MINUTES: September 17, 1996
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp -to approve the September 17, 1996 City Council Minutes as amended. (Motion
passed 5-0).
3. CLAIMS
M/S/P DeLapp/Johnston - to approve the October 1, 1996 Claims #5154 through #5188 as presented
(Motion passed 5-0).
4. PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL:
A. Public Inquiries - None
Mayor John reported he received a letter from the State of Minnesota, Governor Arnie Carlson which
refers to the American Smithsonian Traveling Exhibition and is requesting our assistance to release
police reserves to help maintain traffic management and control.
M/S/P HunUJohnston - to direct the staff to forward a note to the Washington County Sheriff supporting
efforts of Sheriff releasing reserve officers to volunteer for the Smithsonian activity. (Motion passed 5-0).
B. Recognition of Louise Friedrich as Washington County Senior Citizen of the Year (Postpone to
October 15th and invite Louise Friedrich to meeting)
5. CONSENT AGENDA: None
6. PLANNING LAND USE & ZONING:
A. Public Hearing: Variance to lot size and side yard setback for an addition to an existing home.
Applicant: Steve Continenza
The Public Hearing notice was published in the September 18, 1996 Stillwater Gazette and the affected
property owners were notified.
Steve Continenza, 3686 Layton Avenue, has requested approval to construct an attached garage to an
existing home along with an expansion to the rear of the home. Planner Terwedo reported, as indicated
on the site plan, the garage will be incorporated into the framework of the home and the existing garage
will be removed. The new attached garage will be 921 sq.ft. The existing home is approximately 1300
sq.ft. and the new addition will be 870 sq.ft. A variance is needed to the minimum lot size requirement
and sideyard requirement (7 feet proposed, 10 feet required) for construction of an attached garage and
an addition to a home. The majority of the homes on the west side of Layton Avenue are ramblers which
were probably constructed in the 50's and 60's. An attached garage would not impact the character of
the neighborhood. Terwedo recommended approval with the condition that the existing garage be
removed and the driveway in the rear yard be removed.
Mayor John opened up the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. There was no one to speak for or against the
variance request. Mayor John closed the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES OCTOBER 1, 1996
Mr. Continenza voiced concern on Condition #1 that the driveway in the rear yard be removed. He needs
the driveway so he can use the doors on both ends of the garage so he doesn't have to shuffle vehicles
around. Since the driveway already exists, there is nothing in code prevents double door garage.
Elmer Dittman, 3624 Layton Avenue N., stated the driveway right next door to him goes from the street to
the alley, why can't he have it?
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to approve Case No. W96-36 the variance request by Steve Continenza based on
the Findings of Fact Items 1-5 in the City Planner's report with the hardship found in Items 1, 2, 3;
including a condition of approval that the existing garage be removed 60 days after the building permit is
Issued and because of the large amount of impervious surface there will be no further formal accessory
buildings with approval of this variance. (Motion passed 5-0).
B. Modifications to expansion plans to Lake Elmo Inn, 3442 Lake Elmo Avenue. Applicant: John
Schiftz
The City approved a site and plan review and variances for expansion of the Lake Elmo Inn at their
February 6,1996 meeting. Since that meeting, the owner of the Inn has worked with a new architect and
has prepared modifications to the plan. The site plan indicates there will be an additional 200 sq.ft. area
added to the kitchen. The setback from the property line is still more than the approved variance for a
side yard setback (10 ft. approved where 50 ft. is required). The front entryway will be recessed so the
entrance to the building will be directly into the addition rather than where the existing building is located.
The second story windows will be eliminated since it will be a one-story building. The roof lines will match
the existing house and Inn.
City Planner Terwedo recommended approval of the modifications since they do not require additional
variances and the overall plan has not greatly changed.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to approve the modifications to the plan for the Lake Elmo Inn as presented at this
meeting. (Motion passed 5-0).
Council member DeLapp asked if the parking area has been taken care of. Administrator Kueffner
responded it has not been resolved. Mr. Schiftz purchased a house which he offered to tear down and
use for off-street parking. The staff asked John Schiltz to wait on this until we get the Old Village study
done because we didn't think a parking lot on the main street through Lake ELmo would be desirable.
C. Modifications to expansion plans for home at 10899 32nd Street. Applicant: Mike Downs
Planner Terwedo explained staff was led to believe Mike Downs was expanding the home and adding an
attached garage. After approval of the variances, the applicant did tear down the home to its foundation
and no longer intended to take the garage down. A building permit has been submitted to the City which
proposes the existing home not have an attached garage and the existing garage remain. This went
beyond what the Council had approved.
Attorney Dave Snyder submitted exchanges he felt was relevant to the issue when he reviewed the
videotape of the council meeting. Mr. Snyder stated it was Mr. Downs understanding that he could level
the first level of the house if it was proven to be necessary. Downs was not clear as he should have been
in his application.
Since Mr. Downs building plans were changing as he spoke and there was a substantial modification from
the last application which was approved by the Council, Attorney Filla requested that a detailed plan
should be submitted by the applicant showing exactly what his intentions are with dates for renovation
completion or he has the option of proceeding under the permit as approved.
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The Council voiced several issues to be discussed between the applicant and staff. 1. The amount of
trees and date for planting of additional trees between home and the shoreline, 2. The existing septic
system shall be inspected while it is being removed from the shoreline area., 3. The septic system shall
be Inspected prior to issuing a building permit, 4. The existing garage shall be removed. , 5. the existing
garage's toilet facilities shall be removed prior to issuing the building permit., 6. All debris shall be
removed from the septic site prior to issuance of a building permit., 7. That a future garage expansion or
an addition to the house will not be allowed., 8. Removal of the blacktop driveway down to the house., 9.
Garage be brought up to compatible level with the main structure.
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp - to postpone this agenda item until next meeting and ask Mike Downs to submit
detailed plans and direct the staff to meet with Mr. Downs to resolve these issues discussed by the
Council which could be made as conditions of approval and come back with a recommendation to the
Council. (Motion passed 5-0).
D. Proposed amendments to Sections 301.070 N.16, Subdivision 7 and 301.070D. Subdivision 7B of
the Lake Elmo Municipal
Planner Terwedo reported the amendment attempts to allow flexibility to the development standards in
the OP Ordinance if the development plan still meets the purpose and intent of the OP Ordinance and the
goals and policies in the Comprehensive Plan. The Planning Commission postponed recommendation on
the Ordinance amending Section 301.070 D.16 Subd, 7B.i.b. relating to conservation easement
dedicated to a homeowners association for more information.
The Planning Commission recommended adoption of the ordinance relating to Development Standards
with an additional change of four affirmative votes required by the City Council.
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp - to amend Ordinance 8143, An ordinance Amending Section 301.070 D. 16
Subdivision 7 of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code. (Motion 4-1:DeLapp:l think this would cause people to
come in under PUD who otherwise wouldn't want to).Filla:This is not an option In the OP district.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to amend Ordinance 8143 as modified (change votes from 3 affirmative votes to
four). (Motion passed 4-1:DeLapp)
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to adopt Ordinance 8143 as amended, to read as follows "based on recorded
findings that the proposed modifications(s) would better enhance the rural character more so than the
strict interpretation of the OP regulations of the City...). (Motion passed 4-1:DeLapp).
E. Letter from Meehan's requesting reconsideration of the fence between Torre Pines and the
Armstrong Property
The City received a letter form the Meehan's requesting reconsideration of the fence between Torre
Pines and the Armstrong Property.
Attorney Filla reported the Council on May 21,1996 approved a fence be constructed on the common
property line and consist of poles and four strands of wire -the two bottom strands being non -barbed wire,
the top two strands of barbed wire and will be 48 inches high. The statutes provide that if a party fails to
comply with that order the other party can construct the fence and their recourse is to obtain damages
through court action. The Council could amend action taken on May 21, 1996, but they need to know
what has been done by the property owner relying on the City's action.
Tom P. Armstrong stated they have spent $400 on a surveyor and purchased $1,500 on fencing material
relying on council action. The fence will be constructed this weekend. This Is not a forum for an
emotional kind of opinion, but should be addressing this issue to the state legislature who wrote the
statute.
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The Meehan Family voiced concerns that common sense dictates there is no need for a fence unless
livestock is introduced because there is a beautiful boundary now, environmental impact of raising
livestock affecting the waterway which goes toward Eagle Point Lake, and the liability of barb wire
causing harm to snowmobilers. Mr. Meehan received a letter from Mr. Armstrong stating that they were to
clear cut 5' from either side of the fence. The Council's position is that clear cutting is not required and
this was not a direction by the City Council as fence viewers. Mike Black commented that the state law
talks about different options for a fence in this situation and his company would like a combination of
fencing other than a harsh agricultural fence.
The State law does not provide the City Council the latitude to rule against the fence, but only gives them
the option of what type of fence will be built. The Council did not take any action on the request for
reconsideration of the fence between Torre Pines and the Armstrong Property.
F. Concept Plan - Robert White property located on the Southwest corner of Highway 36 and Keats
Avenue
Planner Terwedo reported Bob White is proposing eleven new single family homes and one existing
home on 50 acres where 36 acres are preserved as open space and 14 acres are designated for
development. The site includes a mature woodland on its west side, a state protected wetland in the
southwest. A conservation easement for the open space will be donated to the Minnesota Land Trust for
preservation.
Mr. White explained he bought this property primarily to live on and enjoy it as it is now. Under the
current design the existing home rests on a nine acre "L" shaped parcel and does not intend on adding
homes to those nine acres
Mayor John and Council member Conlin wanted the developer to consider the installation of trailways.
Mayor John wanted the plan amended to include trails which connected the homes to the woods to the
east.
The council received a statement from John and Lisa Burban, 9612 57th Street, supporting the Village
Green Concept Plan presented by Bob White and strongly urged the Council to vote in favor of this plan.
Eileen Engsdorf, 9960 57th St., expressed concern about the new developments proximity to her
property and wondered If the City had setback requirements that prohibited the new houses from
encroaching on her land. Asked if a visual inspection is done if the development does indeed enhance the
rural character.
Planner Terwedo encourages the Council and the Planning Commission to visit the site so they can get a
better feel of how the land is laid out.
M/S/P DeLapp/Hunt - to refer to the Planning Commission to consider setbacks both for the lot itself and
boundary within the Open Space Development Plan from adjacent properties. (Motion passed 5-0).
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp - to approve Bob White's concept plan as presented. (Motion passed 3-2:Conlin,
John:He would like to see more access from those property owners in the cluster area into the wooded
area and around lake).
G. Rezoning from Ag to OP: Robert White
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to adopt Ordinance No. 8144, An ordinance amending Section 301.070C. Zoning
District Map of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code approving the rezoning requested by Robert White from
AG to OP. (Motion passed 5-0).
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7. PARKS/MAINTENANCE:
A. Interim Plan for Maintenance/Fire Department
The Maintenance Advisory Committee unanimously passed a motion to modify the existing cold storage
maintenance building on Jamaca Avenue with two insulated bays with two end garage doors; to provide
heaters to maintain storage above freezing; to modify the existing side door by insulating it; to find a cost-
effective 500 sq.ft. of cold storage within the City to lease for the winter with an option to extend the
lease; to recommend not leasing land from Carl Olinger for a temporary pole building.
Dan Olinger submitted costs on insulation, overhead doors, metal sheeting, etc. which figures were taken
from sale ads from Menards.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to direct the staff to proceed ahead with plans to upgrade the existing cold
storage building by adding two heated stalls and two insulated doors and any other equipment as
deemed necessary to make these stalls usable for the plows this winter and that be capped at a
maximum of $25,000 based on the unanimous recommendation of the Maintenance Advisory Committee
that this proposal carry through. (Motion passed 5-0:
M/S/P DeLapp/John - to formally commend the MAC, Councilman Hunt as their representative, Dan
Olinger and Administrator Kueffner for putting together this interim plan. (Motion passed 5-0).
B. Tree -Trimming Policy
Administrator Kueffner was directed to provide a policy for tree and brush trimming for the City. Even
trough our code allows for tree trimming and/or removal of any object in the rights -of -way that may
impede the health, safety and welfare of our residents.
M/S/P DeLapp/Hunt - adopt Administrative Policy No. 96-1 Tree Trimming Policy, as presented. (Motion
passed 5-0).
Dan Olinger and Council member Conlin had suggested amendments to the policy.
M/S/P John/Johnston - to reopen the motion to adopt the Tree Trimming Policy. (Motion passed 5-0)
M/S/P Conlin/Hunt - to adopt Administrative Policy No. 96-1 Tree Trimming Policy as amended. (Replace
low limbs of 14' versus S', Amend Item 2.3 and delete Item 2.4) (Motion passed 5-0).
C. Street Light at Highway 5 County Road 17 Intersection (Postponed)
Debbie Krueger requested Washington County install a street light at the Highway 5/County Road 17
intersection. Administrator Kueffner had contacted Joe Lux with the Washington County Public Works
Department and he was going to have specific cost data. No cost data was received, therefore, the
agenda hem was postponed. Mayor John explained he received a request for a street light at the
intersection of County Road 10 and 19.
Councilman DeLapp asked for a study on the street light policy to include the basis for approval of street
lighting and how cost should be allocated.
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp - at a future date, to ask the staff to review changes the City might consider making
to its policy on street lights and to look at options from other cities for background information. (Motion
passed 5-0).
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D. "Crime Watch" Signs in Cimarron Park (Postpone to 10/15)
Administrator Kueffner reported she has not received information on the cost of the signs from the
Sheriff's Department and asked this item be tabled.
E. Gravel on 50th Street
At the August 20th meeting, the Council discussed both the gravel and potential designation of 50th
Street MSA and tabled the request until we had further Information on the MSA designation and the
annexation portion of 50th Street within Baytown Township. Administrator Kueffner attended the
September meeting of Baytown Township and the City's request for the annexation was met with
resistance and she was invited back to the October 7th meeting. In the meantime. Dan Olinger has
concerns about the condition of 50th Street and feels that the City should gravel at least its portion of the
road. If 50th Street is to be improved to MSA standards, the 5 year MSA program indicates this
improvement would not be done until 2000.
M/S/P DeLapp/Johnston - to award the bid for graveling 5220 feet of 50th Street in the amount of
$14,201.44 to Miller Excavating based on the letter and recommendation from the Maintenance Foreman
dated August 6,1996. (Motion passed 5-0).
Council member Conlin suggested revisiting the policy in terms of cost for maintaining gravel roads
versus bituminous overlay projects with expenditures being assessed to the property owner.
F. VFW Ballfield -Offer to purchase
Kes Tautvydas, Chair of the Parks Commission, stated they cannot make a recommendation because
they have not had a meeting to discuss this item. Also, the Commission doesn't know how the budget is
broken down to various funds. The Budget has not been shown to them with these individual funds and
they would like to see the budget for their regular meeting on October 21,1996 so they can make a
recommendation.
M/S/P Hunt/DeLapp - to authorize a bid as specified in the Council packet provided the Parks
Commission holds a meeting and determines to go ahead with this proposal at the price stated and the
Finance Director certifies to the commission that the funding is available. If the conditions are met, the
Commission should go ahead and make the offer. (Motion passed 5-0). The Council would entertain the
Parks Commission suggestions for a name for the park.
G. Sign Ordinance
Planner Terwedo is working with Cenex for a gas station and the sign ordinance allows signs as high as
25 feet which she feels is too high and recommends reduction for Service Stations and accessory uses to
allow for one pedestal sign for each street face not to exceed six feet in height anywhere in the setback
area, but no part of any such sign shall be closer to side lot lines than the required side yard setback nor
within five feet of the rear lot line or street right-of-way. The sign face shall not exceed thirty square feet.
Hunt supported the reduction because the site is close to the airport and could be detrimental.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to adopt Ordinance 8145, An ordinance amending Section 535.19 of the Lake
Elmo Municipal Code relating to signs. (Motion 5-0).
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8. CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT:
A. Call public hearing for Section 33 Utilities Assessment
The City received a memo form Tom Prow, September 27, 1996, regarding the Final Assessments for
the SE 1/4 of Section 33 Utilities. The Engineer has recommended that the Council adopt the resolution
and set the assessment Hearing for Tuesday, October 15, 1996. Prew reported the Total Assessment
figure has changed from $612,414.12 which was published in the Public Hearing notice to $643,230.14.
The individual notices to the property owners have not been mailed. Attorney Filla pointed out a
supplemental hearing will have to be held to deal with the difference of $20,000.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to adopt Resolution No. 96-31 calling for a public hearing on the proposed
assessment for the Sanitary Sewer and Water Service for the SE 1/4 of Section 33 for Tuesday, October
15, 1996 at 7:30 p.m. (Motion passed 4-0).
Council member Conlin left the Council meeting at 10:66 p.m., therefore the vote for the following
motions will be majority vote of four council members.
M/S/P Hunt/John - to direct the staff to negotiate with the property owners that an agreement can be
reached concerning assessing the entire amount on next years tax rolls. (Motion passed 4-0).
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to direct the staff If it is not possible to get an agreement from the property owners
that they take whatever action they need to ensure that the entire amount can be assessed. (Motion
passed 4-0).
B, Replace Cost of Water Meters
Tom Prew reported In his letter of September 254, 1996 that he had met with the staff regarding replacing
all the old water meters in the Old Village. Prow recommended that the new water meters and the
automated meter reading system be purchased and installed under a single contract. This will insure a
matched uniform system. It is proposed to finance the new meters in the Old Village area with antenna
revenue ($10,000/Year). The meter reading and billing system will be paid for by increased staff
productivity resulting from the automated read out system.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston - to authorize the City Engineer to prepare specifications and advertise for bids for
water meter replacement and a meter reading system. (Motion passed 4-0).
C. "No Passing" Signs in the City
The City received several complaints from the Lake Jane Trail area that drivers are not obeying the
double yellow lines and one resident was witness to a very close call by someone that ignored these
double lines. It was Tom Prew's opinion that "No Passing" signs should be placed on all doubled lined
collector or MSA streets in the City. Dan Olinger presented the cost and the size and dimensions of the
signs. The Council felt the large size of the signs was not in keeping the area rural.
M/S/P DeLapp/Johnston - to defer this proposed sign change for at least a year and proceed with basic
striping program. (Motion passed 4-0). The Council suggested inserting in the newsletter an article on
obeying traffic rules with regard to double yellow lines.
D. Escrow reduction for Beaut Crest Estates
Tom Prew reported in his letter of September 27, 1996 that the work is nearly complete on this
subdivision with only landscaping and punchlist items remaining. An extension to the developers
agreement was granted by the Council for the landscaping.
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M/S/P DeLapp/Hunt - to reduce the retainage on the Beaut Crest Estates subdivision to $27,500 as
recommended by the City Engineer in his memo dated September 27, 1996. (Motion passed 4-0).]
E. Washington County Plan for Manning Avenue
M/S/P DeLapp/Hunt - to direct the staff to send a memo to Washington County Public Works Department
to get an assessment of what is involved in the plans so we can understand how this plan would impact
Lake Elmo and copy to Washington County Commissioner Mary Hauser. (Motion passed 4-0).
F. Update on Paving Shoulders on Olson Lake Trail:Tom Prew will investigate and report back at the
October 15 Council meeting.
G. County Road 13 Assessments
M/S/P Johnston/Hunt - to adopt Resolution No. 96-32 calling a public hearing for Thursday, November
7,1996 to assess County Road 13 improvements. (Motion passed 4-0).
H. 30th Street:Tom Prow reported he has received two quotes for sub -grade testing and
recommended hiring Braun Intertec.
M/S/P Hunt/Johnston -to accept bid from Braun Intertec for sub -grade testing of 30th Street in the
amount of $1,340. (Motion passed 4-0).
9. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
10. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
A. Agreement to Terminate Non -Conforming Use. Bob Johnson, 10323 47th Street
The City received a letter from Jerry Fills, dated September 10,1996, and a signed agreement from
Robert and Helen Johnson, 10323 47th Street N., agreeing, conditionally, to terminate the on -conforming
use of there property.
M/S/P DeLapp/Hunt - to approve the agreement between the City of Lake Elmo and Robert and Helen
Johnson, 10323 47th Street North, to terminate a non -conforming use of subject property. (Motion
passed 4-0).
11. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS:
Mayor John attended the Sensible Land Use Coalition on September 25, 1996.
Councilman Hunt will hold a staff meeting on computer presentation on Wednesday, at 9:00 a.m.
12. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT: NO REPORT
The Council adjourned the meeting at 11:15 p.m.
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Resolution No. 96-31 Calling a public hearing on final assessments for sanitary sewer and water for
Section 33
Resolution No. 96-32 Calling a public hearing for final assessments for County Road 13 improvements
Ordinance No. 8143, An Ordinance amending Section 301.070D.16, Subd.7 relating to conservation
easement dedicated to a homeowners association
Ordinance No. 8144 An Ordinance amending Section 301.070C. approving the rezoning of Robert White
from AG to OP
Ordinance No. 8145 An ordinance amending Section 536.19 relating to signs
Administrative Policy No. 96-1 Tree Trimming Policy
MEETING MINUTES
Lake Elmo City Council/3M Imation
The Lake Elmo City Council held a workshop with Imation/3M representatives at 6:00
PM, Monday, September 9, 1996 in the City Council Chambers of Lake Elmo City Hall,
3800 Laverne Avenue North.
City Council Present: Mayor Wyn John, Karen Johnston, Steve-DeLapp, Rita Conlin,
Lee Hunt.
City Staff:- Ann Terwedo, Mary Kueffner.
Others: Sue Dunn, Tim Mandel, Gloria Knoblach.
3M/Imation Representatives: Don Jordan, Miles Lindberg, Darrel Wiegshad.
Mayor John opened the meeting.
Don Jordan, 3M representative, discussed the regional perspective behind the
3M/Imation land in Lake Elmo and Oakdale. There are 195 acres of 3M land in Lake
Elmo on the north and south side of Highway 5. In Oakdale, there are 300 acres of
land which could be broken into 2 acre lots.._.
Mr. Jordan spoke about water quality in relation to development on the Imation property
in Oakdale and the future development of the 3M property in Oakdale in relation to the
storm water run-off which goes into Lake Elmo. Specifically, the storm water run-off in
the Imation site could be held in the existing, and future ponds. The 3M land in Lake
Elmo will need additional ponding areas which the 3M land in Lake Elmo may
accommodate.
Mr. Jordan presented a bubble diagram of current and two new buildings, detailed a
series of ponds and more of a campus setting.Mr. Jordan stated that Imation can keep
the water "on site"however, Imation may join in a comprehensive watershed plan if an
appropriate one can be devised.
Mr. Jordan said that 3M/Imation wants the support of the City of Lake Elmo and the
.long term benefit for the city would be: 1.) green acres setback from Highway 5
2.) appropriate "buffer" areas next to
residential areas
3.) creation of "water amenities"
4.) walking paths which would tie into the Lake
Elmo comprehensive plan and
Washington County trail system
Three concept land use alternatives were presented for the 120 acres of 3M land on
the north side of Highway 5. These included:
1. A cluster, business park option 30% impervious
2. A residential open space option
3. A standard 6 per 20 residential subdivision
All options incorporated ponding areas for the run-off from 3M land in Oakdale.
Mary Kueffner questioned if a sewer extension would be feasible for the business park
option.
Steve DeLapp questioned the ponding issue and its impacts on Lake Elmo;
volume/rate of run-off; the rate of run-off cannot increase over time.
Karen Johnston questioned where the water in the ponds would come from and asked
for information on ponding planned for 3M land in Oakdale.
Don Jordan stated that the majority would come from the 3M land north of the Imation
property. Imation may or may not become part of an overall plan.
Lee Hunt questioned the water quality issue related to the water entering Lake Elmo.
Mayor John recognized 3m/Imation was requesting of a "current" council and when they
ask for a grading permit later, things could change.
Don Jordan responded by stating that water quality is important to both Oakdale and
Lake Elmo.
Sue Dunn mentioned the Olson Lake Estate problem and its impacts on Lake Elmo.
Karen Johnston asked when the grading on the Imation site would need to be
completed.
The group discussed the outlet pond on the property. The group discussed volume
and rate issues related to water. The volume of run-off in Lake Elmo cannot increase
more that 10%.
Wyn John stated that he believes Oakdale will benefit by the taxes generated by the
Imation project and Lake Elmo would benefit by having wetlands.
Lee Hunt complimented the presentation of the three scenarios. Would like to see
buffering from adjacent land uses.
Rita Conlin questioned the size of the holding ponds on the 3M land in Lake Elmo.
What are the real future land uses? She feels that the zoning should reflect the future
land uses.
Don Jordan stated that the grading needs to be done in a timely manner. Perhaps as
soon as early 1997.
Ann Terwedo stated that a gradinglexcavating permit would need to be issued and
reviewed by our engineer and a process would need to be followed.
Mary Kueffner wants the city engineer to comment on the feasiblity of this plan working
at full development.
The group discussed a bullet point review needs to be prepared as to what was
discussed and the city council should respond to the workshop.
Lee Hunt felt that the neighbors should be notified, when appropriate.
3M/Imation will, in a timely fashion, schedule further meetings.
Ajoint powers agreement should be drafted between the two communities which would
define the project and the water issues which will be addressed as part of the future of
the Imation/3M land in Oakdale and Lake Elmo.
Wyn John'supports a meeting with LE/ 3M/imation/Oakdale.
Wyn John closed the meeting at 7:00 PM.
Respectfully submitted, Cynthia Young - Recording Secretary
Lake Elmo
Pine Springs
Grant
Joint Meeting Agenda
October 7, 1996
Lake Elmo Parks Building
11194 Upper 33rd Street
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
From Stillwater take Highway 5 to Laverne Avenue.
Left on Laverne Avenue to Upper 33rd St.
Corner of Upper 33rd and Laverne
7:00 P.M. Meeting Convenes
1. Discussions on improving participation in
recycling and advertising.
2. Set date and time for future meetings
3. Other
4. Adjourn
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that decisions are preconceived. However, staff provides background information to the
City Council on each agenda item in advance; and decisions are based on this information
and experience. In addition, some items may have been discussed at previous council
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Lake Elmo City Council Agenda
October 1, 1996
7:00 p.m. Meeting Convenes
Pledge of Allegiance
1. Approval of Agenda
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Approval of Claims
4. Public Informational
7:15 A. Public Inquiries
7:20 B. Recognition of Louise Friedrich as Washington County
Senior Citizen of the Year
C. Other
5. Consent Agenda
6. Planning, Land Use & Zoning
7:30 A. Public Hearing: Variance to lot size and side yard setback for
an addition to an existing home. Applicant: Steve Contenenze,
7:45 B. Modifications to expansion plans to Lake Elmo Inn, 3442 Lake
Elmo Avenue. Applicant: John Schiltz
8:00 C. Modifications to expansion plans for home at 10899 32n Street.
Applicant: Mike Downs
8:15 D. Proposed amendments to Sections 301.070 N. 16, Subdivision
7 and 301.070 D. Subdivision 7B of the Lake Elmo Municipal Code
relating to the Open Space Preservation District
8:20 E. Letter from Meehan's requesting reconsideration of the fence
between Torre Pines and the Armstrong Property
8:35 F. Concept Plan - Robert White property located on the Southwest
conrner of Highway 36 and Keats Avenue.
G. Other
Lake Elmo City Council Agenda
October 1, 1996
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7. Parks/Maintenance
8:40 A. Interim Plan for Maintenance/Fire Department
B. Tree -Trimming Policy
C. Street Light at Highway 5 County Road 17 Intersection
D. "Crime Watch" Signs in Cimarron Park
E Gravel on 50th Street
F. VFW Ballfield - Offer to purchase
G. Other
8. City Engineer's Report
9:00 A. Call Public Hearing for Section 33 Utilities Assessment
9:05 B. Replace Cost of Water Meters
9:15 C. "No Passing" Signs in the City
9:25 D. Escrow reduction for Beaut Crest Estates
E. Other
9. Unfinished Business
9:30 10. City Attorney's Report
A. Agreement to Terminate Non -Conforming Use. Bob Johnson,
10323 47th Street
B. Other
9:35 11. City Council Reports
A. Mayor John
B. Council member Conlin
C. Council member DeLapp
D. Council member Hunt
E. Council member Johnston
1o:0o 12. City Administrator's Report
13. Adjournment