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VILLAGE OF LAKE ELMO
Meeting of, July lb, 1970 Village Council Chambers
MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE: W. Lundquist, J, Evert, B. Fob, E. Tomaljanovioh, T. Torseth,
L. Kirveda, D. Boorman, M. Eder
7:30 PM Mr. Jerry/foe appeared RE: building Permit, Lot E,OACE ACRES 3rd ADDITION
DISCUSSION: Mr. Roe had a building plan. Lot involves low area whioh would have
to be filled. 930 .feet above aea level question involved. Applicant desirous
of placing fill material on lot to acoomodate building at adequate .level. This
lot low area is where drainage between Olson Lake & Lake Jane would flow.
RECOMMENDATION: That Mr. Roe obtain the following:
1. A contour map of the lot in its present state denoting the 930 elevation.
2. A contour map of the lot as planned with fill materials in place.
3. A lot plan drawn to scale to show,
a) building location (&elevation)
b) sewerage plan and location (& elevation)
c) water system location (& elevation)
d) adjacent sewerage and water systems (distances)
The members of the planning commission referred Mr. Moe to Ordinance No. 104
(requirements relating to installation of sewerage disposal systems)
7:50 PM Mr. Robert Godfrey, etal (co-owner of Lot 1, Pabst(Second Division) Lake Jane
Lots) appeared
RE: availability of potential purchaser of Lot 1 to a building permit.
DISCUSSION: Lot location is on the North central side of Lake Jane. Lot has only
about ten to twelve feet of flat surface South from the Road Hight -of -Way then
drops sharply toward,the lake. They would like to fill the lot suffioently to
build a home. This lot is high and OxsOmicw there was no discussion about lake
shore filling. Mr. Godfrey stated that he had consulted the Village Clerk who
informed him that providing the area was at least 18,750 sq ft the lot area met
the code requirements.
RECOMENDA.TION: That the owners obtain the followings
1. A contour map of the lot in its present state denoting the 930 elevation.
2. A contour map of the lot as planned with fill materials in place.
3. A lot plan drawn to scale to show:
a) building location (& elevation)
b) sewerage plan and location (& elevation)
o) water system location (& elevation)
NOTE: Presently there are no houses on each side of this lot.
8:15 PM Mr. George Rossez appeared RE: Acceptability of permits to erect "Wausau
homes" in the Vi.11age..presently has * purchaser in Bordners Farmette Addition
and may lose home but is more concerned with future permits.(This matter brought
before the commission by Banding Inspector at June 9th meeting)
DISCUSSION: Mr. Rossez explained to members the type of construction of the homes,
distributed a few of their brochures and answered questions of the commission
members. The home is pre -built in the factory in sections (or units) using glue
in the assembly and then the sections (or units) are put together on the site,
The question of meeting the UBC is being researched, Then UBC would allow pertain
things not allowed in our present node. Mr. Rossez would like a decision as early
as possible on the question of building permits for Wausau Iiomes,During discussion
on the recommendation which follows T. Torseth expressed his opinion that the
Village Council should send the Building Inspector to Wausau to inspect faoillities
and observe actual oonatruetion for one or two days, then report his findings bank
to the Council.
Planning Commission Minutes ofmeeting July 14, 1970 Page 2
8:15 PM Mr. George Roasez, Wausau Homes..contlnued
RECOMMENDATION' (moved by J. Evert, second by B. Folz, passed)
That "Wausau Homes" be permitted in the village (of sufficient square footage)
subject to our finding that specifications have been approved by Uniform Bldg.
Code (UL➢C) as stated by the firm in its broohures. (B. Folz to research and
report his findings to the secretary for inclusion in the minutes of the meeting)
FINDING;: OF B. FOLZ. AS REPORTED TO SECRETARY. SEVERAL DAYS iOLLOWINO MEETING:
13, Folz spoke to Ernie Kluegel, Roseville V1.l]age ouilding Superintendent,
Mr. Kluegel's comments as follows:
1. He verified that "Wausau Homes" do meet the CRC.
2. Roseville sent two (2) inepeators to the plant to observe construotion and
faoillities.,their report was favorable in all regards.Meets eleotri.oal and
,plumbing codes.
3. Roseville has approved oonatruotion of this home within the V111gge,
(Roseville has as their building node the UDC)
4. Roseville has one house (Glued) in the Village whioh is now eight (8) years
old End the building is still sound in the opinion of Mr, Kluegel.
5. His personal observations:
a) They are ok,
b ) Communities must face up to low post housing.
c) Suggested a $5,000. performance bond. (if we have any doubts) for the
oommunity and purchaser to fall bank on.
8:30 PM Mr. & Mrs, Donald Anderson appeared RE: Rezoning 3 aores(adjaoent to Village
of Oakdale on North side of Demontreville Road near intersection with Olson Lake
Road)from agricultural to residential. (refer to minutes of earlier meeting when
represented by Mrs. Hedberg, Realtor and June 9th meeting at which the Anderson's
appeared)
DISCUSSION) E. Tomaljanovioh commented on meeting with Oakdale Planning Commission,
in that the adjacent village zoning as reaidential and adjacent lands to South &
Fast are residential. Mention made again of our previous decision to wait with re-
zoing until we have chance to review entire communities zoning situation.
RECOMMENDATION: (moved E. Tomaljanovi.oh, seoond J. Evert, passed..6 aye, 2 no)
That the three acres proposed for three residential lots be considered for rezoning
from agrioultural to residential by the Village Council for the following reesonsi
1. The character of the area surrounding this parcel Is residential.(exoept tO
the North)
2. Meeting with Oakdale Planning Commission indioates that this rezoning would
be compatible with Oakdale's planning and zoning,
M. Eder commented that his negative vote related to question of "Spot Zoning" and
that it may leave the subject rezoning open for a legal question.
8:45 PM Mr. Dick Sohrier, Mr, Peter VanDuzarty and Mr.C, Mogren appeared
RE: Proposed Lake Jane nine subdivision (refer to previous meetings, more speoi-
fioally that of June 22, 1970)
DICUSSSONs Mr, Sohrier stated that they were not interested in following the
commissions recreation suggestions: the trail system and lakeshore dedication
adjacent to the proposed Village Park on Lake Jane. Mr. VanDuzarty discussed
hie meeting with HUD officials regarding open spaoe trails and their iorblems
in other communities. Again reviewed lot area situation which oould be worked
out as previously discussed with open apace limited to development when sewer
and water are available. Applicants were reminded that they should submit in
writing alternatives to the suggestions of the planning commission. They would
at this time prefer to dedicate land in the South West corner of the plat whioh
is adjacent to the proposed East-West thoroughfare instead of the trail way and
Lakeshore. On question of inner road requirement of curbs and gutter, it was
suggested they go thru the council for an *newer. Subdivision code requires such.
Planning Commission Minutes of meeting July ie, 1970 Page 3
9:15 PM Mr, Walter Peahen and Mr. C. E. Milner,3urveyor appeared
RE: Preliminary Plat..Carlson's Meadow First Subdivision in 3W} of NW* Sea 11
(Two lots 327,140' wide and 431.891 deep with a 50* road right of way..private
..along West property line)
DISCUSSION: Mr, Milner explained plat to members and stated that this had been
submitted to the Town Board for approval in 1969 and that certain sections corner
problems in the County and other factors prevented him from getting aooeptanae
of the plat by the County Surveyor, These problems should be resolved within the
next two weeks. Out -Lots now shown on the plat must now be shown as lots since it
is now within ooporate limits of a village according to Mr. Milner. Question of
drainage through the private road -way were discussed.
RECOMMiaDATION: That Mr. Milner and Mr. Pechan return to the July 27th meeting
during which time the commission would study the proposed dubdivision and researoh
minutes of the previous planning commission and Town Board of East Oakdale to
get the benefit Of what was agreed at that time.
NOTE: Mr. Milner .left with the secretary a oopy of the subdivision as then proposed
and a development plan for the entire acreage owned by Mr. Carlson.
9t35PM Mr. & Mrs. Eugene Strum appeared RE; Question of Building Permit on Lot 1,
Part Lake Jane Lots, Second Subdivision (refer to Godfrey 7:50PM)potential purchasers
DISCUSSION: Mr. & Mrs. Strum were appraised of the vact that the owners were in
earlier and reviewed elth them the discussion and recommendation of the commission,
9:45 PM Mr. & Mrs, Ralph Oaoe appeared
REt Proposed sketch of Oaoe Acres, 5th Addition (which would be platted over Three
iAkes Farm Addition and in adjaoent to Lake Jane Road on the South and •the proposed
Village Park..gravel pit of State..on the West)
DISCUSSION' Mr, Oaoe reviewed his sketch with the oommiesion. The lots would be an
acre in area. Only one new road -way would be required end that is proposed to be a
culd-de-sao in the Northwest area of the plat running South from Deer Pond Trail,
All other lots would fron on either Lake Jane Road or Deer Pond Trail. Members of
the commission mentioned the possibility of running a road out to Lake Jane Road
to provide a second way in and out of the Bidden Bay area in the event of fire, amtx
etc. Mr. Oaoe was not necessarily opposed to this. Due to terrain he suggested that
be an extension of the ould-de-sao through rather than along the East edge of the
proposed plat. A present 30 foot dedication on the Three Lake Perm plat would have
to be vacated ,for this plat. It is along the East edge of this plat running North
and South into Doer Pond Trail from Lsk a Jane Road.
RECOMMEDATION, That the sketch drawing and contours be given to Mr, Carl Dale,
the Village Planner for review..,for such things as the trail system, proposed
park on the West, etc. without any comment to him (Mr. Dale) by commission for
his independent views. D. Boorman to advise Mayor that we are requesting planners
services and Mr, Dace was to leave proper sketch with contours at Mr. Dale's office,
}bather action deferred to the next meeting.
10 040 PM Members of the commission discussed allowed time for persons desirous of meeting
with the commission. This evening the schedule went over on each and put many later
than was planned on the agenda. Q. Ts fifteen minutes for each sufficient. Also
that in the future the chairman ask each person to state entirely first what he is
before the oommisssion about and the details. This should proceed any questioning
by the commission members. We may in some case need more information submitted in
advance of the meeting.
11:00 PM Members noted with appreciation that TMilding Inspector was present most of the
evening. This the members felt was helpful for him. Minutes of the meetings will be
given to Mr. Friedrich in the future so he may follow commission action,. recommeda-
tions with council action that follows on each matter.
Planning Commission Minutes of meeting July 14, 1970 Page 4
RECO?t1VDA`.FT0Nt (moved by B. Pblz, second by D. .Boorman, passed)
That the Village Building Inepeotor be named as an exi.fioio member•of the
maarxf the Planning Conumlasion by the Village Council.
11t30 PM VILLAOE BfTILftNO PET*4IT POLICY
1]!SCf1SStONt W. Lundquist told members about a situation in Afton township where
homes were located and built, then problems arose with installation of sewer systems
duo to high water table. While this is not the case primarily in the Village except
for areas around the lakes, the various sub.waterahede should be of concern in the
location of sewerage systems to future flooding in a total development situation.
RECOMMEPATIONt (W. Lundquist moves, J. Evert seconds, passed)
That as a matter of policy, the Village Connell require that applicants for a build.
ing permit must meet end receive approval of all applicable regzirements of the
Sewerage Disposal Ordinance (No. 104) before oonsideration of a building permit
is given.
11045 PM .HEARING 3M Club Special Use Permit for Trap Shooting Range
OiSCfSSIONt it appears that it is the Planning Commission is responsible for
conducting all hearings relating to Special Use Permits.
RECOMME.OATTONt That W. Lundquist confer with Edna Beers of Village Office Staff
about a hearing for the above and refer to the Council if necessary.
11t55 PM Meeting Adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Maynard 74 Eder, Secretary