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Village of Lake Elrno., Minnesota
Meeting of July 27, 1970 Village Council Chambers
Members in attendance W". Lundquist, B. Pole, D. Boorman, L. Rirved4;
E. Toraljanovich and M. Eder. Absent: J. evert & T. Torseth
The minutes of the May 25th, 1970 Meeting were read by each eeeber.
Correction noted: page 1..Mr. McRae, District Nine was speaker.
pB « Folz F ovad minupagees b2e .. Mot jonCarriied` should Le added to last line .
accepted
and corrected. Motion second
was made by D. Boorman. Motion paeacid
The minutes of the June 9th, 1970 meeting were read by each memmber.
Corrections noted: 7 : 45PL+M Mr. Mrs. David Arneson
9:0OPiu Peter VanDusartz(spelling)
�s���ling3
10:45PM 3M Club on Scarade property.(word added)
...subject to the followings (substitute
the foregoing statement) the rules, hours
and restrictions proposed by 3M C? u 3
D. Boorman moved minutes be accepted as read and corrected. A seconding
motion was made by B. Folz. Motion passed.
The minutes of the June 22nd, 1970 meeting were read by each member.
Correction noted: 9:05PM Dick Schrier and Peter VanDusartz (selling)
L. Tomaljanovich moved minutes as read and corrected be accepted.
B. Folz moved the seconding motion. Motion passed.
The minutes of the July 14th, 1970 meeting were read by each member.
Corrections noted: 7:30PM Mr. Jerry Moe (spelling, on three occasions)
8:15PM Roseville village Building Superintendent.
9:45 PM ... out--de--sac.... (spelling)
L. Tomaljanovich moved minutes be accepted as read and corrected.
Seconding motion introducted by B. Folz. Motion passed.
4:1OPM VTLLAG1; TRAIL SYST. 'M (especially related to Lake Jane flills
sketch plan previously reviewed with recommendation of inclusion)
B. Folz reported to the memeers he conversed with Carl Dale of Midwest
Planning with regard to subject and its incorporation into county --side
plans. C. Dale said it is included in the County Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Dale referred to what is being accomplished with a trail system
in Arden Hills where it was included in their Comprehensive Plan.
The land area opened to date was donated by NSP along transmission lines.
J. Pole Q' a owed the Arden Hills comprehensive plan, a eap of the present
trail system referred to as a pedestrian trail and the NSP news release
issued at the time of the donation. Problems encountered to date were
the use of the trail by Hondas and during the winter months use as a
snowmobile trail. Arden Hills does not presc:htiy have an ordinance
regulating the trail system, but in the interieethrougn their Parks
and recreation Department have established rules for the trail use.
Also the entrances have blocked to vehicular traffic by installing
posts close together so only people could get through.
Since the Oace Acre-4th Addition Proposed Plat involves the question
also of the Trail System in our community, a decision of long tare
importance must now be made at this time.
Planning Commission minutes of meeting, July 27th, 1970 Page 2
VI1.j;AGS TRAIL SYSTEM (Continued)
8. Tomal j anovio s expressed concern about the use people would make
of the trail system and problems that could result.
L. Etirveda favored a trail system but felt that consideration be given
land areas adjacent to road right--of-ways.
After further discussion, it was laze consensus of all present t`iat a
Village Trail System should be pursued. To accomrflish this the Village
Council should adopt a policy statement on the matter.
B. Folz reminded all present of the recreation plan and turned attention
to one of the maps which clearly snows the desireability of an inter-
connecting park system within the community. He stated that tine Village
council at their July 21st :heeling indicated they were now ready to
proceed with Phase I of the Ref-reational Plan. ijstintited costs before
grants which may be obtained are considered is approximately $500,000.
Tne Arden ,dills data (4SP News Release, Trail map of present route.
and ASP :matter of Transmitta.l...copies) are made a part of these I1inutes
as attached eznibits A, B, & C.
3 s 40PM CARLSON'S MEADOW let SUhOIVISIOU� (:proposed Plat)
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Ar. C. Milne' (Surveyor) and Mr. Gerald Hartman (Co -•Owner) appeared.
Mr. Milnevexplained the past history of this potential plat. County
Surveyor would not accept plat in tine fall of. 1969 on two occassions .
That matter is now being resolved. The deeds which were executed prior
to the death of Mrs. Carlson (acreage was sold without platting as
required..platting was in process by purchasers to oyatain building
permits) and since the plat could not be accepted the deeds were record-
ed in the fall of 1969.
M. Eder reviewed that which was found by a search of the Township
minutes of 1969. A hearing on the proposed plat was held on August 19,
1969 along with a proposed Dearborn plat. This had been preceeded by
planning board and Town Board review. The minutes of the August 26, 1969
`Town Board meeting following the hearings is not too specs, fics .. i n that
said the Town Attorney was to contact each owner and give a full explan-
ation in the matter. That which was remaineing to be resolved was the
drainage question involved and the culvert sizing that would be required
under the _?rivate drive into the building site areas.
. Folz moved the following with respect to the proposed plat
1. The conuaission recom dda to the council that a variance from the
sixty-six requirement of East Oakdale Ordinance Mo. 19 be granted.
2. Tne plat locate and dedicate a 15 or 20 foot wide drainage ease-
ment to the public.
3. Accept the lot numbering as proposed (Lots 1,2 &3) noting that
lot one (1) can not be utilized as a building site in the motion
to accept the plat.
4. Utility easements of 10 feet in width are to be dedicatee alone
the Lasterly portion of the private drive.
D. ssoorman provided the seconding motion. Motion passed.
Planning Commission Minutes of meeting, July 27th, 1970 Page 3
CARLSON' S MEADOW 1st SUi3DIVISZo4 (Continued)
B. Foie introduced the following: That due to Keck= extenuating
circumstances in securing approval of the County Surveyor of the
plat, the death of Mrs. Carlson so they could not negate sale and
have the Carlson' s dedicate plat instead of the Hartman' s and the
Pechan's, and since a hearing wae held August 19, 1969...a rehearing
of the plat not be held.... since as a final conclusion the commission
does not find that the proposed plat has been altered from that presented
at the hearing previously held and adjacent property owners have not
changed. L. Xirveda provided the seconding motion. Motion Passed.
9:3OPM MR. a MRS. ANi)J RSOt,T REZONING REQUEST -AGRICULTURAL TO A I1:,N'i,tI_.L
The members agreed to adopt by reference the minutes of the Oakdale
Planning Commission km* meeting, specifically that pc '..ion which
represents the joint meeting between the Commissions of Lake Elmo and
Oakdale, which was held June 25tii, 1970.
The Village Council at their July 21:st meeting approved the setting
of a hearing date in the matter. "4emhers established the date of
August 24th, 1970 as the data of the hearing on rezoning.
It was noted that the land descri:aed in the rezonigg request of ti,.2
Anderson's is currently being advertised for 4ale.
W. Lundquist read from the Subdivision Ordinance, Section 4 (Page 8)
with reference to the question offering for sale or the sale of real
westate without platting....what the violation is, each day offered
is a separate violation and the penalties teereon.
9 :50PM 3M CLUB TRAP SHOOTIAG RAa. GE
Members discussed the matter of a hearing on the requested Special, Use
Permit as required in the Zoning Ordinance. W. Lundquist reviewed the
question of the requirement for hearing if within 250 feet of adjacent
property owners. The Village attorney r videutly has concluded that the
distance is from the outer each of the ladd area in question. Under
such interpretation, Mr. Joe Friedrich and Mr. Emerson are within that
requiremnt. The council will ask the club to secure the signatures of
trio property pwners waiving a ilearing..if not a hearing will be required.
10:10PM 3. Foie presented the commission with a copy of the Polution Control
Agency..:ist of Approved Inoinderators (List No.2) that was provided
through the Fire Chief of the Village Fire Department.
Relative to the recommendation of the commission with regard to minimum
requirements -size of lot (area) and width of lots..it was noted to the
members present that the council had reoieved an opinion from the Village
Attorney at the July 8, 1970 meeting on present re; wire: ents and that
the commission recommendations would be studied. At the July 21st meeting
mile :subject was again diseuaaed and an agreement was made that the attorney
advise the Building Inspector and the Commiaeion in writing the status of
currently intrepided minimum requirements on lots within the comeunity.
;cussed the need for coordinating commission recommendations with action
to en by the Counai l .
W. Lundquist advised members that Carl Dale will i,e at the August 24th, 1970
meeting to discuss and review comprehensive plan of the Village.
Planning Con #seion Minutes of meeting, July 27th, 1970 Page 4
B. Folz explained to the commission members what action had been taken
on Mr. Moe's building permit request. A sketch plan had been presented
to tha council and acoeptsd on the condition that an easement for drainage
be dedicated to the public on a portion of the property as dtermined by
the engineer. It was noted that the entire 'lot was oelow 930 feet above
sea level. Concern was expresser) that surveyors contour determinations
were not required as recommended by the commission.
B. 1ola advised the Gembers of a forthcoming meeting being prepared by
tha highway department on the planned 212 continuation in the viaduct
area. IArs. Moris requested a meting with immix persons living in the
iumeciiate area, however, highway department officials would like to hold
the meeting in the village chambers on August 10, 1970 to allow anyone
that could liee to attend.
w. eundquist asked that commission wambers have ready in written form their
questions, ideas, etc. for the August 24th, 1970 meeting which is rioped
will include the village council members.
W. Lundquist distributed Village :attorney Raleigai's proposed forms for
Zoning requests and Special Use Permit procedures. Members are to review
prior to the next meeting of the commission.
B . Fols suggest that the commission appoint sub -committees comprising
one commission member and two lay members from the community to assist
the Viers working on special projects, such as the Uniform Building
Coda. The following committee were agreed to among ti'ie members
1. - uilding Codes
2. Parks
3. Forms and Filing
The meeting adjourned at 11;50 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
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Maynard Lf' Eder, Secretary