HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-12-74 PZMVILLAGE OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING MARCH 12, 1974
Meeting called to order at 7:45 p.m.
Members present: Chairman Wm. Lundquist, B. Dreher, B. Folz, C. King,
D. Lyons, R. Johnson, T. Torseth.
Minutes of February 25th meeting corrected as follows:
Page 2, paragraph 4: correct spelling of RUD; correct spelling
of WINDEN.
Minutes approved as corrected.
MR. & MRS. KEN HOLMBERG, 1901 Manton, St. Paul, appeared regarding a
building permit for Lot 1, Block 2, Lake Jane Manor #2. The elevation
and acreage appear adequate for building so Mr. & Mrs. Holmberg
were advised to obtain a building permit from building inspector.
No apparent problem with drainage or water table is foreseen.
MR. & MRS. LLOYD SHERVHEIM - Proposed plat for "Ruth's First Addition
to Lake Elmo". Ernie Rud of Winden & Associates also appeared.
Motion by B. Folz, seconded by R. Johnson, to recommend approval
of the preliminary plan of Ruth's First Addition to Lake Elmo, subject
to the following conditions:.
1. That the comments from the Village Engineer's letter (copy
attached) dated March 12, 1974, be included in the pre-
liminary plan. Item #6 of the Engineer's comments does
not clarify nor specifically designate the high flood mark
or the normal high water mark. The Village Engineer should be
instructed to clarify his intent. It is assumed that the
intent is that the high flood mark is 888.0' and the normal
high water mark is 884.0'.
2. That the right-of-way on Klondike Avenue be 30' from the
center line of the traveled roadway.
3. That the lot width on Lot 6 be widened three feet to be 125'
at the building setback line.
4. That the park land dedication for this plat should be a
monetary consideration and not be taken in land.
5. That any restrictions and/or covenants that the developer
wishes to place on the land should be submitted to the
Village Attorney prior to the approval of the final plat.
6. That any street improvements necessary to take care of
additional traffic that is generated by this development
be negotiated by the Council.
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7. That the portion of Lot 8 from Klondike Avenue easterly
for about 200' should be included as a public street,
together with 4 cul-de-sac at its easterly terminus, and
this roadway be, dedicated to the public but not be
improved; the cottonwood trees within -the right-of-way
be protected by written agreement between the owner and
the village. If such an agreement, in the opinion of the
Village Attorney, cannot be legally adopted, then some other
provision for a public easement to give access to Lot 9
should be provided.
8. That Lot 9 should connect to the cul-de-sac as defined in
Item #7 (above) to allow public access for all lots.
9. It appears that Lots 4, 5, and 6 may not be a part of the
public waters of Lake Elmo and, therefore, could be filled.
PZC also observes that Lots 4, 5, and 6 could not be
reasonably developed without extensive fill. PZC, therefore,
recommends that the Village Attorney rule whether the Village
has the authority to grant sufficient fill on Lots 4, 5, and
6 to develop these lots without a public sewer system.
NOTE: Ordinance 129, Section 8, Subdivision D, covers fill
on shoreline areas.
10. That a copy of this plan should be submitted to the Valley
Branch Watershed District, along with a copy of the Village
Engineer's letter of March 12th, and a further clarification
of Item #6 of said letter, for their recommendations and
approval.
Motion passed unanimously.
LEONARD HANSON appeared before the PZC to request a variance for a
building permit to construct a $12,000 pole barn for his registered
quarter horses. Mr. Hanson would like to obtain the permit within
45 days so that he may begin construction within 60 days.
Motion by B. Folz, seconded by R. Johnson, to recommend to Village
Council that they individually contact the County Commissioners and
instruct the Village Attorney to expedite the settlement of the
Leonard Hanson property for the Washington County Park. Motion
passed unanimously.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. Motion by B. Folz, seconded by T. Torseth, to
adopt that portion of proposed revised comprehensive plan for the
Village of Lake Elmo as attached. Motion passed unanimously.
PRELIMINARY PLAN OF "LAKE ELMO HEIGHTS". PZC submits attached letter
to C. O. Georgi as matter of record. It is our stated objective
that all of the additional water run off created by the development
be held within the development area and that the Village Engineer
make recommendations as to what diking and ponding is required.
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Motion by B. Folz, seconded by D. Lyons, to recommend approval of
that part marked "Plat 1" of the preliminary plan of Lake Elmo
Heights, subject to the following considerations:
1. That Lots4 and 5 of Block 2 be combined into one lot and
the existing pond on Lot 5 remain as it presently exists.
2. That Lots 4 and 5, Block 3, be combined into one lot and
the pond on Lot 5 remain as it presently exists.
3. That a 20' walkway easement be maintained, centered on the
NSP power line easement.
4. That curb and gutter be added per village standards.
5. Subject to a favorable recommendation from the Village
Engineer, namely in the area of drainage structure on
Stillwater Boulevard and the size of the necessary water
ponding area on Lots 11, 12, and 13, Block 1 and Lots 1
and 2, Block 5.
Motion passed unanimously.
NOTE: This is approval of only about 1/4 of the 160 acres. Plan 1
consists of Blocks 1, 2, 3, and 4 which contains 39 lots on 51 acres
more or less.
Meeting adjourned at 12:30 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sandy Phernetton
Rec. Secretary
LA E ELMO PLANNING COIMII$$IONi
LAMS *LNG, KIHHdiOTA
February 6, 1974
C. O. Georgi
3092 Lexington Avenue North
8t. Paul, Minnesota 55113
Re: Preliminary Plan of 'Lake £i. Heights' r% w sec. 2 /
Dear Mr. Georgia
We have the` following comments on the portion of "Layout No. 1'
lying east of the power line:
1. All lots along the power line (except Bik. 1) should have
the backyard abutting the power line.
2. The increased runoff dee to surfaced roads, roofs, driveways,
landscaped yards, eta., should ¢e calculated. A holding pond
or ponds must be provided to contain the increased volume of
water within the limits of the development.
3. Block 1, Lots 12 thru 13 should be revised and be combined
into two lots.
4. Block 2, Pond in Lots S and 6. What are you proposing to do
with the pond? What is the flood control elevation of the
pond. Lots 6 and 7 should front on Innedale Avenue.
5. Block 3. Pond in Lots S, 6 and 7. What are you proposing
to do with the pond? What is the flood control elevation of
the pond?
6. Block 4. Remove the Curves in Innsdale Avenue North.
7. Block 5. Reduce to 4 lots with the back of each lot abutting
the power line.
8. Block 6. Reduce Lots 13, 14 and 15 to two lots with the
back of each lot abutting the power line. Combine lots 27 and
28 into one lot.
9. Indicate the type of roads to be built and include a typical
section of s<.:.:..,
C. O . Georgi
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we feel the portion of the plan west of the power line could be
r wised by moving Imperial Avenue further east (or. north end of
plat) to allow lots to be backed up to the power line. This
t;ou.l y. allow fut'ire subdivision into 1/2 acre tracts when public
utilities are provided.
Ironwood Trail could swing further south after crossing the
i in- :r '. follow the top of the ridge, westerly to Ideal
:,v«nuc ? the revision of the two above mentioned roads can
acco:.t 1i �: r ti,en Blocks 6 and 7 would have to be revised.
i,e area mare(: e-(: Flat 1 looks good with the previously mentionec?
:;tc_ Jif ication ? . he additional data on Plat 1 crust be provided
t.efore fii.u.b apt)raval.
We do not like Layout No. 2 and will not make further comments,
unless you gar rsil to pursue this layout.
In general, we approve the concept and layout of the portion of
Plan 1, ly nR east of the power line. You will also he required
to provide an adequate number of percolation tests, to prove
tliat privat( sawtic systems will function in this soil.
`'incerely,
Bruce A. Fol,_
Lake Elmo Planning Commission
City of bake i.lmo
c 13o1. Garrity Co.
LAKE ELMO
PROPOSED REVISED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
In rjr-neral, the present comprehensive plan is still valid. However,
in ,,view of some changes 4-hat have taken place since the original plan
was developed, it is proposed to encourage short term development
in three areas, in accordance with present trends.
1. Old village area, including area east of the laek between
212 and Tartan Park,
2. The corridor area up to the parks,
3. The Tri-Lakes area.
This modification of the original Lake Elmo plan drawn up about
seven years ago is desirable because:
1_. The population increase projected to the year 2000 for
Washington County, on which the plan was based, has been
reduced considerably. The growth of Lake Elmo can follow the
original plan, but at a slower rate, and with staging of
sewer availability.
2 Park plans for Lake Elmo, which did not exist in their
present state of development seven years ago, are removing
some land from the private sector.
3. There is much more information available today regarding
sewer availability.
4. Some needs have changed.
In order to develop this concept in more detail the Planning
Commission is requesting that the Village Council provide it with
professLonal engineering and planning assistance, as follows:
1. An engineering study relative to sewering the old village
either into the Cimarron plant or into a new packaged plant
in section 13 or 24, including industrial area up to the
airport.
2. An engineering study, jointly with Oakdale, for determining
feasibility of sewering the Tri-Lakes area and the adjacent
area in Oakdale, into the WONE interceptor. The total area
to be sewered should be limited such that it hopefully can
function unchanged and not overload the WONE interceptor for
30 to 50 years or maybe forever. Feasibility costs of this
alternative should be established, as well as establishing
feasibility of other alternatives, such as correcting faulty
septic systems or a packaged treatment plant.
3. An engineering sutdy as to how much land in the Dayton area
can be sewered into the WONE system. We need to know what
area will not be included when Dayton's decides that they
are ready to go.
LAKE ELMO
PROPOSED REVISED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
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4. Professional planning assistance for reviewing the proposed
160 acre development in the SW corner of Old 212 and
County 80, especially since this area may not be sewered for
a long time.