HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-12-75 PZMAGENDA--PLANNING-ZONING COMMISSION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1975.
7:30 P.M. -- Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
7:45 P.M. -- N. G. Tucker-1950 W. Cty.Rd.B-2,Roseville,55113
Business phone--633-8130
Check lake lot on Lake Demontreville.
Identified property as being next to the
Jerry Bratsch property. Bratsch property
is listed as Lots 217-226 and 228-232,
Lanes Demontreville Country Club.
8:15 P.M. -- Midwest Planning
Analysis of the issues on the Comprehensive
Plan.
Members should read Midwest Plannings
write-up on the issues that was mailed
to each member about one week ago, and
be prepared to suggest any changes in
the text.
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
August 14th.,--Ilearing on 3M Development.
August 18th., --Senate Sub -committee Hearing —Land Use
and Community Services
Revised copy of Eden Park Plat sent to PZC Mtg. of 8/12/75
copy sent to Dick Johnson, delivered to City Office 8/11/75
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CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF AUGUST 12, 1975
Meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chairman
Johnson.
PRESENT: Johnson, Williams, Dreher, Grace (8:05), Lundquist,
Novak and Armstrong.
MINUTES: MOTION by Williams To approve the Minutes of the last
meeting with the following amendments:
IN. J. TUCKER
1. At EASTEP, page 2, nine lines from the bottom,
"considered 4.05" should read "considered. 4.05".
2. At EASTEP, page 2, line nine, "Johnson requested"
should read "Johnson had requested".
3. At "OAKDALE-LAKE ELMO JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT",
Line 3, "Made" should be "make".
SECOND by Dreher.
VOTE All in favor. (Grace not present)
Mr. Tucker is a prospective purchaser of Lots 227-232,
Lake DeMontreville Country Club. The property is now
owned by Jerry Bratsch. Mr. Tucker is checking on the
buildability of the lot. He presently resides at
1950 West County Road B-2, Roseville, Minnesota 55113.
His business telephone is 633-8130. The lot has 71.5
foot frontage on Lake DeMontreville and is pie -shaped.
One side is 166.3 feet and the other side is 175.63
feet. A question arose as to whether the easement over
Lot 227 had been vacated by the City. This same prob-
lem had been discussed at previous PZC meetings on
August 13, 1974 and September 10, 1974. Mr. Mueller
was present and indicated that he felt that the lot
might be unbuildable. The basement floor will have
to be three feet above the high water mark. The
septic system will have to be four feet above the high
water mark. The septic system can be no closer than
75 feet from high water mark and the well has to be
75 feet away from the septic system. 930 feet is the
high flood mark for Lake DeMontreville. No action was
taken and Mr. Tucker was informed that if he desired to
pursue the matter further, he must submit a two -foot
contour map complete with topography, soils data and
professional soil analysis report relative to the
proposed drain field location. These are the same
requirements that were indicated to Mr. Bratsch at
the August 13 meeting in 1974.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AUGUST 12, 1975 Page 2
DAVE LICHT
Mr. Licht discussed the comprehensive plan adding individual
input of PZC members. He indicated that the City must
define the urban -rural service areas by October 1, 1975.
If this is not done, the Metro Council will do it for them.
The service areas should be staged out over five-year
periods beginning in 1975. A long discussion took place
regarding the feasibility of sewering Lake Elmo. Sewers
will, Mr. Licht admitted, bring development, but he claimed
this development can be controlled by forcing the developer
to foot the bill for road, sewer and water previous to the
time he is able to sell the housing. The developer can
also be required to dedicate land for schools, police and
fire protection. He indicated that Bloomington is using
this approach and forces the developer to foot the bill for
all the expenses. This makes the development in an area
where the City does not want development very difficult.
MOTION by Lundquist.
The following sewer time -table should be adopted by the PZC
for use in the comprehensive plan:
1990 Sewering of the Tri-Lakes area. The park shall
be the northern -most boundary sewered.
1885 The old village should be sewered and Sections 24
and 13.
1980 Sewers should be provided to 3M.
1975 Section 32 already has sewer and development should
be encouraged first there. After Section 32 is
adequately developed, Section 33 should be developed
by hooking it into the WONE System through Section 32.
If a sewer interceptor becomes available in or near Section 35,
it should then be developed. After 35 is developed, Section 36
can be developed and then Section 34.
SECOND by Grace.
VOTE All in favor.
BUILDING The PZC requests that the City Clerk prepare a monthly list
PERMIT of all building permits issued with the location of the
REPORTS structure and other information about the structure. This
will be used by the PZC to monitor growth in Lake Elmo.
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BATTEN TIMBER
DREHER
3M Meeting
Representatives from the Batten Timber Company discussed
the change in the special use permit granted in 1974 so
that three burning pits could be established. Each would
be 20 feet deep and the earth removed would be used as a
screen around the pit. This burning has been requested by
the clientele of Batten Timber. The number of diseased
elm trees that are being removed is exceeding the capacity
of the chipper. The chipper has been breaking down and
burning seems to be the only solution to destroy the trees.
Batten Timber is also interested in constructing a sawmill.
Dave Licht stated that he felt the PZC should grant a
90-day permit under PCA standards so that the operation could
be observed. The PCA has been informed of the project and
they told the City forester that they approve of the project
and it conforms to their standards.
MOTION by Williams.
That the PZC accept recommendations of the planner and
recommend approval of the amendment to the special use
permit, subject to the restrictions to be submitted by
the planner and forester.
SECOND by Grace.
VOTE All in favor.
Bob Dreher brought plans for his Pole barn which measures
72 x 36. It's presently constructed at the Washington
County Fairgrounds and will be moved to the Dreher farm.
MOTION By Grace.
The PZC recommends approval of the issuance of a special
use permit to allow construction of a Pole barn, subject
to the Council's grant of a variance to the set -back
ordinance at 4.05(J). This variance is necessary because
of the surrounding low land on the Dreher property.
SECOND by Armstrong.
VOTE All in favor.
The agenda for the 3M Meeting to be held on Thursday,
August 14, at the Oakland School was discussed. John
Rudquist of 3M was present.
ADJOURNMENT MOTION by Williams to adjourn.
SECOND by Armstrong.
VOTE All in favor.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:35 p.m.
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THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS MONDAY, AUGUST 25, at 7:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas G. Armstrong
Secretary