HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-14-75 PZMPRESENT:
OPENIT"':
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
CHANGE TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 3M DEVELOPMENT
The Public Hearing was called to order by Chairman
Johnson at 7:38 p.m.
Mayor, City Council, PZC and interested citizens
(see attached list)
Chairman Johnson introduced the members of the Council
and PZC present. He explained the reason for the meet-
ing and the format that would be followed. John Rudquist
of 3M was then introduced.
JOHN E. RUDQUIST Mr. Rudquist stated that 3M has grown an average of eight
percent per year . The development of the site will be
as follows:
1979 - Earliest point that construction could begin
1980 - Earliest point of occupancy
1982 - 1,500,000 square feet built
2,500 employees
1,950 cars, 1.3 persons per car average
1986 - 3,600,000 square feet built
6,000 employees
4,000 cars, 1.4-1.5 persons per car average
1989 - 5,600,000 square feet built
9,400 employees
5,530 cars, 1.6-1.7 persons per car average
1992 - 8,200,00 square feet built
13,700 employees
7,600 cars, 1.7-1.8 persons per car average
1995-
2000 - 11,000,000 square feet built
18,000 employees
9,000 cars, 2 persons per car average
LAND USE ACREAGE
Open Space 348
Buildings 96
Parking (10% to be
landscaped) 83
Roadway Circulation
Systems 36
Total 563
PERCENTAGE
62
17
15
6
100
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
The building will be no more than five stories above
grade. The heating and services plant will be located
south of 212 in Lake Elmo. It was put next to the
railroad tracks because 3M anticipates that coal may
be a fuel for the plant.
ROBERT OWENS Mr. Owens discussed the transportation plans.
I AL LEHMAN
'-'kIRMAN JOHNSON
From north on 694
From west on 40th Street
From west on 212
From east on 212
From north on County Road 80
From south on County Road 80
From south on 694
24.8%
7.6%
6.3%
8.8%
6.4%
18. 3%
27.8%
These are based on the Metropolitan Councils' Year 2000
population guesstimates.
Mr. Lehman discussed the utilities use. 3M favors
Alternate 1 for the sewer plan. The water could be
taken from wells on site, Lake Elmo water system,
Oakdale water system, or St. Paul water system.
Lehman stated that the St. Paul water system is the
best but would cost the most. This is the only'water
that does not have to be treated before use in the
laboratory.
At 8:20 p.m. Chairman Johnson called the presentation
part of the meeting to a close and asked for citizen
questions and concerns.
TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM SITE
LYN JOHN
JESS MOTTAZ
Questioned the impact the 3M Development would have on
Lake Jane Trail. Mr. Owens stated that a direct con-
nection to County Road 80 should take care of any problem
with increased use of the roads in the Tri-Lakes
County Road 80 is scheduled for improvement in 1977 9.
Chairman Johnson indicated that the City could lin
access to the residential roads around 3M by putti.
stop signs, etc.
Ideal Avenue apparently carries most of the traffic into
the site. What about the overloading of Ideal Avenue?
3M should have other accesses. Is this a 3M Plan to make
ideal such a hazardous street that it is eventually closed
and vacated? The vacating of Ideal is exactly what 3M
wants. Is this what you're working for through these plans
Owens replied that the project has plans for Ideal remaimin
as it is or being vacated. He stated that the company want
to he a good neighbor and does not desire to see any
through traffic go through the Tri- Lakes area. The road
development is being planned to eliminate any access traffi
on residential streets in the area.
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
"S DE LONG
JF `)TTAZ
This is the third meeting that Mrs. DeLong has been
to regarding 3M. She stated that there was very much
community opposition on the use of•Ideal at other
meetings. Ideal leads to Lake Olson and is the
only way into or out of many of the homes in the
Tri- Lakes area. She opposed the entrances to the
3M facility from Ideal. The 3M planners indicated
that the plans that they are showing are not exact
plans but are demonstrator type plans. They stated
again that the citizen input was important to them
and that they would be "a good neighbor". Mr. Owens
also stated that 3M had a right to have an acce
from Ideal.
Mr. Mottaz stated he agrees with Lois DeLong
Metropolitan Council won't give the approval
interchange at 40th Street and 694. County I< ,J
has not yet been developed. Why are the 3M people
using the possibility of an access at 40th Street
and the development of County Road 80 as an alternative
to Ideal Street? The 3M people are not acting in good
faith. The residents of the community have stated
that they do not want Ideal used for access to 3M.
3M should now come up with a concept plan for a
bridge over or tunnel under Ideal. Every time Ideal
is mentioned the 3M people revert to talk of County
Road 80 or 40th Street and these accesses may not
develop and in the case of 40th Street may never
develop.
ED LE CLAIR Asked that the City and County do whatever is neces-
sary to keep the traffic off Lake Jane Trail.
SEWER AND WATER FOR SITE
WILLIAM LUNDQUIST
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON
How long can the WONE Interceptor accommodate sewage
from 3M? Al Lehman answered, saying that it could
accommodate it until the mid 1980's under present
plans. He said there is, of course, a two-year
slip in that the 3M development could be two years
later than all the years indicated previously at the
meeting. If the Tri-Lakes is not sewered at the same
time as 3M is sewered, it would extend the time that
3M would be able to use the WONP; Interceptor.
Asked the following question of the citizens present:
"Should the Tri-Lakes be sewered at the same time
that 3M is sewered?"
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
JF ' MOTTAZ
LYN JOHN
A few years ago there was a survey, which had
over a 60% return, which questioned the desire
for sewer in the Tri-Lakes area. 87% of the
people indicated that they do not want a sewer
If the Tri-Lakes is sewered at the same time,
what would the cost division be? Al Lehman
responded that the Metro Council would pay for
the interceptor but the trunk and laterals would
be paid for by a special assessments of the City.
It would be the City that determines the special
benefit and how much the 3M project would pay.
EFFECT ON DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO SITE
JESS ' PAZ
ED LE CLAIR
RICHARD TELKE
D LE CLAIR
With 3M coming in, how can the City say "No" to
McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Chicken, etc.? Small
businesses, fast food chains and other people
who want to develop around 3M? The area around
3M is single family development and it should be
able to stay that way.
There are large and medium size single family
housing lots around the site. The only commercial
is on 212 to the east of the site. He hopes that
the present zoning would prevent the problems that
Jess Mottaz just discussed. LeClair says that he
feels the area around 3M should remain single
family with large lots. There should be no peripheral
development such as bowling alleys, fast food places,
etc.
Was there provision to work with Oakdale in planning
the development around 3M? Chairman Johnson answered,
saying that there is plan for cooperation on the
environmental impact statement. Teske replied that
he was thinking of the area north of the 3M site
which is in Oakdale but which would really have more
effect on Lake Elmo than on the citizens of Oakdale
because it is divided from Oakdale by 694.
Is there a study on people walking to the Center?
Bob Owens replied that this is a very small amount,
less than 200, but more people walk to the Center
than take the bus. LeClair then asked whether
housing near the site was necessary to reach their
goals of high vehicle occupancy. Owens replied, "No".
Owens further stated that there were many apartments
near the present 3M ; that these are occupied mainly
by newer employees. There is a concept plan for
walking and bike trails. There is presently a bike
trail on 40th Street and this will be maintained and
expanded around the site. The site concept is to
aid walking between buildings on site.
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
LO1 DE LONG
Mayor EDER
LOIS DE LONG
KATHY LANDUCCI
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
POLLUTION, ETC.
LOSS DE LONG
If Mrs. DeLong had known 3M would have bought
property in 1965, she would have had a choice
as to whether to move into the Tri-Lakes area
or not. The small crowd present tonite should
not influence 3M to think that the people in
the Tri-Lakes area are in favor of the project.
There happened to be a Watershed District Meeting
tonite, and because of the flooding problems in
the Tri-Lakes, many people were at that meeting
instead of the 3M meeting.
Is 3M related to the development of fast food
businesses around its Maplewood site? Rudqui
answered, saying that 3M has food on the site
and is able to feed all its employees at lunch
3M has established a 45-minute lunch break, whi:h
discourages off -site food services. Food services
are not needed by 3M to feed its employees. How-
ever some employees do go off site at Maplewood
to purchase food from local fast food chains.
Rudquist feels that the main support for the
chains comes from residences and not from the
3M plant itself.
But doesn't the building of 3M mean that there
will be more residents and therefore more fast
food chains. Johnson replied that we really
don't know what the population will be, what
the make-up will be, and we really can't make
predictions that residences will automatically
follow and that food chains will automatically
follow.
She bought property in the Tri-Lakes area after
3M purchased its property, but no one knew that
3M owned it. She was disappointed that zoning
can be changed so easily because when she bought
her property, it was her feeling that it would
always be a residential area, and now this 3M
development is coming in.
CONCERNS REGARDING SURFACE WATER RUN-OFF, AIR -WATER
What effect will the 3M plant have on additional
water run-off? The Valley Branch Watershed
District has said that 3M will have to pond any
additional run-off that it creates, but the amount
of run-off from the property 3M owns will remain
as it presently is. 3M could pond just about
all of the run-off from the property, but the
Watershed District is also thinking about dry
times, where the natural run-off from the 3M
property will be needed to maintain the lake
levels. In short, 3M will neither help nor hurt
the water problems in Lake Elmo.
:D
CLAIR
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
What about air discharges? Will the quality of
the Tri-Lakes air be changed? Rudquist indicated
that 3M has to live up to the PCA and other state
standards in that 3M is monitored as to its
pollution output. PCA member Lundquist stated
that there is no air pollution discernable at
the Maplewood facility. Rudquist indicated that
the standards at the new facility would be even
higher than the Maplewood facility.
IMPACT ON OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE, ETC.
;HAIRMAN JOHNSON
FESS MOTTAZ
iD LE CLAIR
The Oakdale portion of the development is in
School District 22, and the Lake Elmo portion
of the development is in District 834. Lake Elmo
has a volunteer fire department. The Police
protection consists of the Sheriff's Office and
one Sheriff's officer crntracted from the Sheriff's
office by the City.
We are told that the 3M development will benefit
our taxes. There are studies which show that
facilities like 3M cost more to the taxpayers
than the gain brought back by taxes. Rudquist
answered this by saying that 3M has its own
security guards and will not depend much at all
upon outside police protection. The roads will
be built and maintained by 3M. The buildings are
very fire-resistant and fire service will be
contracted with local communities. The 3M
development will put no additional demand upon
the school district and will pay considerable
taxes. Mottaz continued, saying that the same
study shows that the best development for taxes
is single-family development on one -acre lots.
Has there been consultation with the School Boards?
Rudquist answered, "Yes". LeClair stated that the
834 District has asked that there be no more
building permits issued because the district cannot
support additional students without bonding.
Three successive attempts at bonding have been
turned down by the voters.
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
( ERAL DISCUSSION AND SUMMARY
JESS MOTTAZ
LOI uE LONG
PETER GRASKE
The 3M people have used a great'deal of
psychology,propaganda and a good sales job
in pushing their project. A councilman who
was at an I-94 meeting allegedly said that
there is nothing that can be done to stop
the 3M development. Mottaz is against the
3M development. There are twelve families
who live in the Tri-Lakes area who have in-
dicated to him that they work for 3M and are
opposed to the development but feel that they
can't come out and say so or it will endanger
their jobs.
The people feel it's hopeless. 3M apparently
will come in, and we really can't fight it.
People in the Tri-Lakes area are very frustrated.
The Mayor of'Oakdale stated that he had come to
the Lake Elmo hearing to hear the concerns of
local residents. Oakdale wanted to work with
Lake Elmo in controlling the zoning around the
3M site. Oakdale has already turned down a
restaurant proposed to be constructed by the
owner of the Depot Bar. Once the plans for 3M had
become public this individual had gotten
an option on five acres. Oakdale turned this
down. Mayor Graske requested those present to
ask him any questions they would like answered
regarding Oakdale's feelings and plans regarding
the zoning of areas around the 3M development.
No questions were asked.
ADJOURNMENT At 9:45 p.m. Chairman Johnson adjourned the
meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
(JA--Y1/4'"1-4;--‘'
Thomas G. Armstrong
Secretary
PRESENT:
OPENING:
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
CHANGE TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 3M DEVELOPMENT
The Public Hearing was- called to order by Chairman
Johnson at 7:38 par:.
Mayor, City Council, PZC and interested citizens
(see attached list)
Chairman Johnson introduced the members of the Council
and PZC present. He explained the reason for the meet-
ing and the format that would be followed. John Rudquist
of 3M was then introduced.
JOHN E. RUDQUIST Mr. Rudquist stated that 3M has grown an average of eight
percent per year . The development of the site will be
as follows:
1995-
2000 - 11,000,000 square feet built
18,000 employees
9,000 cars, 2-persons per car average
1979 - Earliest point that construction could begin
1980 - Earliest point of occupancy
1982 - 1,500,000 square feet built
2,500 employees
1,950 cars, 1.3 persons per car average
1986 - 3,600,000 square feet built
6,000 employees
4,000 cars, 1.4-1.5 persons per car average
1989 - 5,600,000 square feet built
9,400 employees
5,530 cars, 1.6-1.7 persons per car average
1992 - 8,200,00 square feet built
13,700 employees
7,600 cars, 1.7-1.8 persons per car average
LAND USE ACREAGE
Open Space 348
Buildings 96
Parking (10% to be
landscaped) 83
Roadway Circulation
Systems 36
Total 563
PERCENTAGE
62
17
15
6
100
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
ROBERT OWENS
AL TLEHMAN
CFi._-RMAN JOHNSON
The building will be no more than five
grade. The heating and services plant
south of 212 in Lake Elmo. It was put
railroad tracks because 3M anticipates
be a fuel for the plant.
stori
will
next
that
es above
be located
to the
coal may
Mr. Owens discussed the transportation plans.
From
From
From
From
From
From
From
north on 694
west on 40th Street
west on 212
east on 212
north on County Road 80
south on County Road 80
south on 694
24.8%
7.6%
6.3%
8.8%
6.4%
18.3%
27.8%
These are based on the Metropolitan Councils' Year 2000
population guesstimates.
Mr. Lehman: discussed the utilities use. 3M favors
Alternate 1 for the sewer plan. The water could be
taken from wells on site, Lake Elmo water system,
Oakdale water system, or St. Paul water system.
Lehman stated that the St. Paul water system is the
best but would cost the most. This is the only'. water
that does not have to be treated before use in the
laboratory.
At 8:20 p.m. Chairman Johnson called the presentation
part of the meeting to a close and asked for citizen
questions and concerns.
TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM SITE
LYN JOHN
JESS MOTTAZ
Questioned the impact the 3M Development would have on
Lake Jane Trail. Mr. Owens stated that a direct con-
nection to County Road `80 should take care of any problem
with increased use of the roads in the Tri--Lakes area.
County Road 80 is scheduled for improvement in 1977 and 1978.
Chairman Johnson indicated that the City could limit
access to the residential roads around 3M by putting in
stop signs, etc.
Ideal Avenue apparently carries most of the traffic into
the site. What about the overloading of Ideal Avenue?
3M should have other accesses. Is this a 3M Plan to make
ideal such a hazardous street that it is eventually closed
and vacated? The vacating of Ideal is exactly what 3M
wants. Is this what you're working for through these plans?
Owens replied that the project has plans for Ideal remaining
as it is or being vacated. He stated that the company wants
to be a good neighbor and does not desire to see any
through traffic go through the Tri- Lakes area. The road
development is being planned to eliminate any access traffic
on residential streets in the area.
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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
LOIS DE LONG
JESS MOTTAZ
ED LE CLAIR
SEWER AND WATER FOR SITE
WILLIAM LUNDQUIST
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON
This is the third meeting that Mrs. DeLong has been
to regarding 3M. She stated that there was very much
community opposition on the use of Ideal at other
meetings. Ideal leads to Lake Olson and is the
only way into or out of many of the homes in the
Tri- Lakes area. She opposed the entrances to the
3M facility from Ideal. The 3M planners indicated
that the plans that they are showing are not exact
plans but are demonstrator type plans. They stated
again that the citizen input was important to them
and that they would be "a good neighbor". Mr. Owens
also stated that 3M had a right to have an access
from Ideal.
Mr. Mottaz stated he agrees with Lois DeLong. The
Metropolitan Council won't give the approval to an
interchange at 40th Street and 694. County Road 80
has not yet been developed. Why are the 3M people
using the possibility of an access at 40th Street
and the development of County Road 80 as an alternative
to Ideal Street? The 3M people are not acting in good
faith. The residents of the community have stated
that they do not want Ideal used for access to 3M.
3M should nog come up with a concept plan for a
bridge over or tunnel under Ideal. Every time Ideal
is mentioned the 3M people revert to talk of County
Road 80 or 40th Street and these accesses may not
develop and in the case of 40th Street may never
develop.
Asked that the City and County do whatever is neces-
sary to keep the traffic off Lake Jane Trail.
How long can the WO..WE Interceptor accommodate sewage
from 3M? Al Lehman answered, saying that it could
accommodate it until the mid 1980's under present
plans. He said there is', df course, a two-year.
slip in that the 3M development could be two years
later than all the years indicated previously at the
meeting. If the Tri-Lakes is not sewered at the same
time as 3M is sewered, it would extend the time that
3M would be able to use the WONE Interceptor.
Asked the following question of the citizens present:
"Should the Tri-Lakes be sewered at the same time
that 3M is sewered?"
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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
JESS MOTTAZ
LYN JOHN
A few years ago there was a survey, which had
over a 60% return, which questioned the desire
for sewer in the Tri-Lakes area. 87% of the
people indicated that they do not want a sewer.
If the Tri-Lakes is sewered at the same time,
what would the cost division be? Al Lehman
responded that the Metro Council would pay for
the interceptor but the trunk and laterals would
be paid for by a special assessments of the City.
It would be the City that determines the special
benefit and how much the 3M project would pay.
EFFECT ON DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO SITE
JESS MOTTAZ
ED LE CLAIR
RICHARD TELKE
ED LE CLAIR
With 3M coming in, how can the City say "No" to
McDonald's, Kentucky Fried Chicken, etc.? Small
businesses, fast food chains and other people
who want to develop around 3M? The area around
3M is single family development and it should be
able to stay that way.
There are large and medium size single family
housing lots around the site. The only commercial
is on 212 to the east of the site. He hopes that
the present zoning would prevent the problems that
Jess Mottaz just discussed. LeClair says that he
feels the area around 3M should remain single
family with large lots. There should be no peripheral
development such as bowling alleys, fast food places,
etc.
Was there provision to work with Oakdale in planning
the development around 3M? Chairman Johnson answered,
saying that there is plan for cooperation on the
environmental impact statement. Telke replied that
he was thinking of the area north of the 3M site
which is in Oakdale but which would really have more
effect on Lake Elmo than on the citizens of Oakdale
because it is divided from Oakdale by 694.
Is there a study on people walking to the Center?
Bob Owens replied that this is a very small amount,
less than 200, but more people walk to the Center
than take the bus. LeClair then asked whether
housing near the site was necessary to reach their
goals of high vehicle occupancy. Owens replied, "No".
Owens further stated that there were many apartments
near the present 3M ; that these are occupied mainly
by newer employees. There is a concept plan for
walking and bike trails. There is presently a bike
trail on 40th Street and this will be maintained and
expanded around the site. The site concept is to
aid walking between buildings on site.
-4-
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
LOIS DE LONG
Mayor EDER
LOIS DE LONG
KATHY LANDUCCI
If Mrs. DeLong had known 3M would have bought
property in 1965, she would have had a choice
as to whether to move into the Tri-Lakes area
or not. The small crowd present tonite should
not influence 3M to think that the people in
the Tri-Lakes area are in favor of the project.
There happened to be a Watershed District Meeting
tonite, and because of the flooding problems in
the Tri-Lakes, many people were at that meeting
instead of the 3M meeting.
Is 3M related to the development of fast food
businesses around its Maplewood site? Rudquist
answered, saying that 3M has food on the site
and is able to feed all its employees at lunch.
3M has established a 45-minute lunch break, which
discourages off -site food services. Food services
are not needed by 3M to feed its employees. How-
ever some employees do go off site at Maplewood
to purchase food from local fast food chains.
Rudquist feels that the main support for the
chains comes from residences and not from the
3M plant itself.
But doesn't the building of 3M mean that there
will be more residents and therefore more fast
food chains. Johnson replied that we really
don't know what the population will be, what
the make-up will be, and we really can't make
predictions that residences will automatically
follow and that food chains will automatically
follow.
She bought property in the Tri-Lakes area after
3M purchased its property, but no one knew that
3M owned it. She was disappointed that zoning
ban be changed so easily because when she bought
her property, it was her feeling that it would
always be a residential area, and now this 3M
development is coming in.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT -- CONCERNS REGARDING SURFACE WATER RUN -OFF, AIR -WATER
POLLUTION, ETC.
LOPS DE LONG
What effect will the 3M plant have on additional
wata' run-off? The Valley Branch Watershed
District has said that 3M will have to pond any
additional run-off that it creates, but the amount
of run-off from the property 3M owns will remain
as it presently is. 3M could pond just about
all of the run-off from the property, but the
Watershed District is also thinking about dry
times, where the natural run-off from the 3M
property will be needed to maintain the lake
levels. In short, 3M will neither help nor hurt
the water problems in Lake Elmo.
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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
ED LE CLAIR
What about air discharges? Will the quality of
the Tri-Lakes air be changed? Rudquist indicated
that 3M has to live up to the PCA and other state
standards in that 3M is monitored as to its
pollution output. PCA member Lundquist stated
that there is no air pollution discernable at
the Maplewood facility. Rudquist indicated that
the standards at the new facility would be even
higher than the Maplewood facility.
IMPACT ON OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, POLICE AND FIRE, ETC.
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON
JESS MOTTAZ
ED LE CLAIR
The Oakdale portion of the development is in
School District 22, and the Lake Elmo portion
of the development is in District 834. Lake Elmo
has a volunteer fire department. The Police
protection consists of the Sheriff's Office and
one Sheriff's officer contracted from the Sheriff's
office by the City.
We are told that the 3M development will benefit
our taxes. There are studies which show that
facilities like 3M cost more to the taxpayers
than the gain brought back by taxes. Rudquist
answered this by saying that 3M has its own
security guards and will not depend much at all
upon outside police protection. The roads will
be built and maintained by 3M. The buildings are
very fire-resistant and fire service will be
contracted with local communities. The 3M
development will put no additional demand upon
the school district and will pay considerable
taxes. Mottaz continued, saying that the same
study shows that the best development for taxes
is single-family development on one -acre lots.
Has there been consultation with the School Boards?
Rudquist answered, "Yes". LeClair stated that the
834 District has asked that there be no more
building permits issued because the district cannot
support additional students without bonding.
Three successive attempts at bonding have been
turned down by the voters.
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MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HARING OF AUGUST 14, 1975
GENERAL DISCUSSION AND SUMMARY
_3S MOTTAZ
LOIS DE LONG
PETER GRASKE
The 3M people have used a great deal of
psychology,propaganda and a good sales job
in pushing their project. A councilman who
was at an I-94 meeting allegedly said that
there is nothing that can be done to stop
the 3M development. Mottaz is against the
3M development. There are twelve families
who live in the Tri-Lakes area who have in-
dicated to him that they work for 3M and are
opposed to the development but feel that they
can't come out and say so or it will endanger
their jobs.
The people feel it's hopeless. 3M apparently
will come in, and we really can't fight it.
People in the Tri-Lakes area are very frustrated.
The Mayor of O.akdale stated that he had come to
the Lake Elmo hearing to hear the concerns of
local residents. Oakdale wanted to work with
Lake Elmo in controlling the zoning around the
3M site. Oakdale has already turned down a
restaurant proposed to be constructed by the
owner of the Depot Bar. Once the plans for 3M had
become public this individual had gotten
an option on five acres. Oakdale turned this
down. Mayor Graske requested those present to
ask him any questions they would like answered
regarding Oakdale's feelings and plans regarding
the zoning of areas around the 3M development.
No questions were asked.
ADJOURNMENT At 9:45 p.m. Chairman Johnson adjourned the
meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas G. Armstrong
Secretary
PUBLIC HEARING
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE FOR 3M DEVELOPMENT
AUGUST 14, 1975
RAYMOND B. SWANSON, 3985 New Highway 12, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
LYN JOHN, 8802 Lake Jane Trail
EION'DANDO, 383 North 9th Street, Bayport, MN 55003
WENDELL PIEPER, 8367 39th Street North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
CLARENCE FUSSY, 8193 39th Street North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
ROGER HENRICHS, 8652 Iron Wood Trail, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
STEVEN ROOKE, 8170 39th Street North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
RICHARD TELKE, 8011 Hidden Bay Tr. North,
ED LE CLAIR, 8243 Deer Pond Ct., Lake Elmo, MN 55042
R. J. DUHER, 7515 10th Street North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
MAYNARD L. EDER, 9275 Lake Jane Trail No., Lake Elmo, MN 55042
JEANNE NOVAK, 2925 Kendile Ave. North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
BILL LUNDQUIST, 5744 Lake Elmo Ave. North,
ARTIE SCHAEFER, 6660 Manning Ave. North, Stillwater 55082
VERONICA CROMBIE, 8014 DeMontreville
DOROTHY LYONS, 10072 North loth Street
ETHEL HOLT, 7920 Hill Trail North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
T. WICKSTROM, 8290 Hidden Bay Court,. North St. Paul, MN
BOB SOVLFS, 977 Goodrich, St. Paul, MN 55105 (3M)
DOUG DE COSTER, 1314 Hillcrest, St. Paul, MN 55116
MOLLIE HEDGES, 4508 Birchbark Trail, Lake Elmo, MN 56042
R. B. ABERCROMBIE, 3091 Layton Ct. North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
LENORE MOTTAZ, 7982 Hill Trail North, North St. Paul
JESS MOTTAZ, 7982 Hill Trail North, North St. Paul
ARNOLD W. BLOMQUIST, National Biocentric, Inc., 2233 Hamline Ave. North,
St. Paul, MN 55113
JOHN LECHERNS, The Architectural Alliance,
AL LEHMAN, 3M
ROBERT OWENS, 3,M
LOIS DE LONG, 8274 Hidden Bay Trail, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
RICHARD E. THOMPSON, St. Croix County Planner, Hudson
W. M. HEMMINGS, Oakdale Planning Commission
PETER F. GRASKE, Mayor of Oakdale
KATHY LANDUCCI, 8312 North'38th_Street, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
THOMAS G. ARMSTRONG, 8291 15th Street North, Lake Elmo, MN 55042
JOHN E. RUDQUIST, 3M