HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-11-75 PZMAGENDA--PLANNING-ZONING COMMISSION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 1975.
7:30 P.M. Roll Call
7:45 P.M. Bruce Folz
Presenting finalplat of Eden Park
( Emerson property )
8:15 P.M. Eugene Eggert -- 8891-37th. St. No. 777-6008
Requesting variance to build storage
building on Lot 3, Block 2, Kenridge 2nd.
Addition, Eggerts vacant lot adjacent
to 8891-37th. St. No.
8:30 P.M Barbara Senness-- Midwest Planning
Lake Jane Hills Plat-- 2nd. Addition
9:00 P.M. -- Discussion period for PZC members
Items: Comprehensive Plan
Status of Sewer Plan
Late Addition to AgendaY- per J. Mueller, Bldg. Inspector
8:25 P.M. Roger Schlicht-- 9202-31st. St.
Variance on driveway and garage
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 11, 1975
Meeting called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairman
Johnson.
PRESENT: Johnson, Williams, Froehner, Grace, Lundquist, Novak,
Armstrong.
MIDWEST Johnson informed the PZC that Midwest Planning had
PLANNING. suspended action on the Comprehensive Plan because the
sewer time -table had not been approved by the staff
of the Metropolitan Council. Dave Licht also told
Johnson that he felt that Midwest had overrun its costs
on the Comprehensive Plan and that he would have to have
more money in order to begin work on it again. Further
discussion was had regarding the contract with Midwest
for next year. Until some action is taken by the Metro-
politan Council on the sewer plan, work on the Lake Elmo
Comprehensive Plan is at a standstill.
3m Councilman Abercrombie informed the PZC that the Engineer
for Oakdale is presenting a study of the environmental
impact of the 3M Plans. The meeting will be held at the
Oakdale Town Hall on November 20, at 7:30 p.m.
EDEN PARK
Bruce Folz presented the final plat for Eden Park. Dis-
cussion was had concerning the dedication of park land.
The preliminary plat was approved at the June 10 meeting.
Chairman Johnson raised the question as to whether the
final plat had met all the requirements of the City
Attorney, City Engineer and Planner. He questioned
whether it was the PZC's obligation to check the final
plat against all -of these recommendations. Johnson sug-
gested that in the future the final plats should go
through the Engineer and that the PZC should be informed
by the Engineer as to whether the final plat meets all
his specifications.
MOTION by Grace
That the Chairman and Secretary of the PZC sign the final
plat of Eden Park, but that the PZC recommends to the
Council that the park land dedication should not count
for the entire amount required because of the limited
recreational use possible on such a mixture of low, wet,
and steeply -sloping land. The exact "credit" to be as-
signed should be determined by the Council. The re-
mainder of the park land dedication should be satisfied
by the appropriate cash payment.
SECOND by Lundquist.
VOTE all in favor.
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 11, 1975
Meeting called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairman
Johnson.
PRESENT: Johnson, Williams, Froehner, Grace, Lundquist, Novak,
Armstrong.
MIDWEST Johnson informed the PZC that Midwest Planning had
PLANNING suspended action on the Comprehensive Plan because the
sewer time -table had not been approved by the staff
of the Metropolitan Council. Dave Licht also told
Johnson that he felt that Midwest had overrun its costs
on the Comprehensive Plan and that he would have to have
more money in order to begin work on it again. Further
discussion was had regarding the contract with Midwest
for next year. Until some action is taken by the Metro-
politan Council on the sewer plan, work on the Lake Elmo
Comprehensive Plan is at a standstill.
EDEN PARK
Councilman Abercrombie informed the PZC that the Engineer
for Oakdale is presenting a study of the environmental
impact of the 3M Plans. The meeting will be held at the
Oakdale Town Hall on November 20, at 7:30 p.m.
Bruce Folz presented the final plat for Eden Park. Dis-
cussion was had concerning the dedication of park land.
The preliminary plat was approved at the June 10 meeting.
Chairman Johnson raised the question as to whether the
final plat had met all the requirements of the City
Attorney, City Engineer and Planner. He questioned
whether it was the PZC's obligation to check the final
plat against all -of these recommendations. Johnson sug-
gested that in the future the final plats should go
through the Engineer and that the PZC should be informed
by the Engineer as to whether the final plat meets all
his specifications.
MOTION by Grace
That the Chairman and Secretary of the PZC sign the final
plat of Eden Park, but that the PZC recommends to the
Council that the park land dedication should not count
for the entire amount required because of the limited
recreational use possible on such a mixture of low, wet,
and steeply -sloping land. The exact "credit" to be as-
signed should be determined by the Council. The re-
mainder of the park land dedication should be satisfied
by the appropriate cash payment.
SECOND by Lundquist.
VOTE all in favor.
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GERT Eugene Eggert of 8891 37th Street North requested that
5i'ORAGE BUILDING the PZC recommend granting a variance in order to build
a storage building on Lot 3, Block 2, of Kenridge 2nd
Addition. This is a vacant lot to the rear of the present
lot owned by Mr. Eggert, on which his home is located.
His residence is Lot 5, Kenridge Addition.
MOTION by Williams
That the PZC recommend approval of a variance to build
an auxiliary structure on Lote 3, Block 2, Kendridge 2nd,
subject to a contractual agreement written by the City
Attorney specifying that the titles to the lots in question
may not be transferred separately without approval of
the Council or prior removal of the auxiliary structure.
SECOND by Froehner.
VOTE all in favor.
SCHLICHT Mr. Roger Schlicht of 9202 31st Street requested a
GARAGE variance on the setback requirement for his garage. The
required setback is five feet and he wishes to place the
garage four feet from the line. Mr. Mueller, the City
Building Inspector, was present and explained Mr. Schlict's
problem. The house is only 11 feet from the lot line and,
with a 10-foot driveway and a required offset of 5 feet,
it is not safe to drive in and out of the garage. The
problem is caused by the closeness of the proposed garage
to the house. The garage is being built by Gorco Garage
Company.
MOTION by Williams
That the PZC recommend that the garage be located five
feet from the side lot line in accordance with the setback
requirement and that the garage be moved further back
from the house in order to achieve the proper driving
angle, and that Mr. and Mrs. Schlicht not apply for a
variance at this time.
SECOND by Grace.
VOTE all in favor.
LAKE JANE Bruce Folz was present representing the owners of Lake
HILLS PLAT Jane Hills Plat 2nd. The PZC set November 24 at 8:00
2ND as the time for the public hearing. Williams indicated
that he did not like the present lot layout of the plat.
The lots were long and narrow. Williams stated that he
favored a wider •lot of approximately 160 feet, so that
at a later time the lots could be divided along the
street line. Folz stated that he would submit a plat
showing probable resubdivision lines but indicated that
the owner would not be in favor of widening each of the
lots in order to meet 160-foot frontage. Folz stated
that this is not the ordinance requirement. Folz
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LAKE JANE further stated that .the cost of development is raised
HILLS PLAT 25 - 50 percent when the front footage requirement is
2ND raised to 160 feet.
(Continued)
ROAD PLAN
Todd Williams informed Chairman Johnson of the activities
at the last meeting concerning the proposed Lake Elmo
Road Plan. Johnson indicated approval of the alignment
proposed for Ideal Street, the accesses to 3M and the
general layout of County Road 13.
MINUTES MOTION by Grace
That the Minutes of the meeting of October 27, 1975, be
approved with the following amendments:
1. At Page 2, BUDGET, line 5, "Don Raleigh" should be
changed to "Don Mehsikomer".
2. At Page 4, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, line 9, "northwest
corners usage" should be changed to "land use of
the northwest corner of the city north of the Tri-
Lakes area".
SECOND by Williams.
VOTE all in favor.
MINIMUM LOT SIZE Novak indicated that she had heard favorable reaction to
the PZC's recommendation of a minimum lot size for an
in -term solution to the Lake Elmo development problems.
A letter was read from Sovereign indicating that she
disapproves the motion and believes that the PZC was
shirking its responsibility for planning. She asked to
be able to votejin absentia against the motion.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Grace to adjourn.
SECOND by Williams.
VOTE all in favor.
The meeting adjourned at 10:34 p.m.
THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 1975,
AT 7:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Thomas G. Armstrong
Secretary
BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED FOR OCTOBER, 1975
4890 Keats - new home, 1,248 sq. ft.
9202 31st St. - garage
3645 Laverne Ave. - new windows in home
9385 45th St. - storage building, 160 sq. ft.
3759 Jamaica Ave. - garage
Stillater Ave. - office units, 1,488 sq. ft.
8028 Hill Trail - window remodeled
8509 Lake Jane Trail - new home, 1,387 sq. ft.
4454 Kimbro Ave. No. - addition to existing pole barn
3812 Jamaica Ave. No. - fence (property protection)
Respectfully submitted,
John Mueller