HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-8-77 PZMAGENDA--PLANNING-ZONING COMMISSION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1977.
7:30 P.M. -- Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
7:40 P.M. Mrs. Jungmann--1950 Grand Ave., ST.Paul--690.4411
questioning possibility of building double
bungalow in the Lake Jane Hills Area.
7:50 P.M. Wm. Stouvenel File
Subdivide property at 8552 Lake Jane Trail
8:00 P.M. Frank Leier Hearing
Approval of preliminary plat of Country Hills
(SE1/4 of. SE1/4 of Section 4 and the east 489.47
feet of the North 680 feet of Gov. Lot 5 in
Section 9 )
8:30 P.M. Continuation of hearing on the Subdivision Ordinance
9:00 P.M.
Items for discussion:
Systems Statement
Development Moratorium
Procedure for reviewing planning applications
(i.e. rezoning, plats, variances etc.)
PZC members please note: Consider seminar being held February 24 & 25.
City to pay registration fee.
PLANNING -ZONING COMMISSION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
Minutes of the Meeting of February 8, 1977.
Meeting called to order by acting Chairman Dick Johnson at 7:45p.m.
Roll Call: Johnson, Lundquist, Bob Dreher, Novak, Armstrong(9:30),
Tom Loucks, Fran Pott, Dorothy Lyons.
Tom Jungman: 1950 Grand Ave., St. Paul, Mn.
Questioned possibility of building double bungalow
in Lake Jane Hills area. Mr. Jungman would like to
buy approximately one acre and build a double bungalow.
Advised. by PZC to check with city attorney regarding
legality of this use in SFu area and then apply for
variance. Mr, Jungman would like to be on agenda of
next P2C meeting.
Wm. Stouvenal: Subdivision of property at 8552 Lake Jane Trail
Mr. Bruce Folz represented Mr, Stouvenel and
explained that Mr. Stouvenal has a 7;-i/2-acre
tractwhich he wants to split into two tracts of
approximately 5.2 acre and 2.04 acres. The 5.2
acre tract is where his present home is built.
Dick Johnson read from city engineer report of
Feb. 1, 1977 which states the possibility of a
drainage easement on this property from Hedges Pond
to Deer Pond. The city engineers report of Feb. 7,
1977 raises the question of a need for an extra inlet
road to Oace Acres for emergency vehicles and service
needs. This road would cross Stouvenals property
from Laker Jan 'r-ail_-NO.`` .:.
Mr. Folz stated that a plotted, but unconstructed,
road now exists from Deer Pond Trail thru 3 Lakes
Farm and Oace Acre Plats to Lake Jane Trail No.
This would provide the access in question.
Questions of adequate septic systems were raised.
It was decided by PZC members that the roadway
situation be solved and perculation tests performed
Then PIC would consider the minor subdivision.
Mr. Folz states he will not be able to do soil and
percolation tests until April and requests postponing
decision of subdivision until that time.
* Public Hearing--Rezoning--Frank Leier.
Mr. Leier presented a preliminary plat of Country Hills
(SE 1/4 of SE 1/4 of Section 4 and the east 489.47 ft.
of the North 680 feet of Gov. Lot 5 in Section 9),
Planning -Zoning Commission, City
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ake Elmo --2/8/77 --- page 2
Publio`°Ilearing--Leier continued-- The northern half of this property
is noW in the Agricultural Zone. Mr. Leier- requests
this area he rezoned to SFU, He has proposed 34 lots
of 1 acre with a blacktop horseshoe street which
dead ends at the southwest end. There would be 2
cul de sacs off this street. Mr. Leier states the
soil is gravel beneath 5 inches of clay and is well
drained. There is a question of. Jane Road No., being_
a public road where it adjoins the Leier property.
Mr. Don Krause, neighboring property owner, questioned
drainage of this property. Mr. Leier stated that 1/2
of property drains to the north and 1/2 drains toward
Lake Jane.
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Conrad Adams, neighboring
of,-1and south of proposed
ponding areas he provided
run off to Lake Jane. He
because the property does
road.
property owner and-f_ee-owner
road, is concerned that
on plat to prevent further
also questioned the rezoning
not have access on a public
There was further discussion by PZC regarding drainage
and roads. Tom Loucks advised that the area has
similar drainage as other Lake Jane area drainage and
the owner must provide suitable ponding and soil tests.
Ile suggested that the road situation be resolved by
the owners themselves.
Hearing closed. Action by PZC tabled to next meeting
due to lack of quorum. It is felt PZC should make
recommendations first on rezoning and consider pre-
liminary plat separately.
Continuation of Subdivision Ordinance Hearing: There was review of
the Subdivision REgulation revisions. Hearing closed
but recommendations to be made at next PZC meeting
due to lack of quorum at this meeting.
Systems Statement: Reviewed by PZC and Tom Loucks,
Discussion by PZC. Questions regarding population
and households occupied at Cimarron will be rechecked
by Mr. Loucks. Questions regarding the number of
deficient on -site sewers in the Tri-Lakes area arose,
Mr. Loucks will verify this with city engineer. No
recommendation'was made due to lack of quorum.
Adjournment 11:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Jeanne Novak, acting secretary
* List of Names and Addresses who attended the Frank Leier Hearing, on
file at City Office with original copy of PZC minutes.
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