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CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD MONDAY, MARCH 28, 1977.
'7:30 P.M. ---- Meeting convenes
Roll Call
Approval. of Minutes
8:00 P.M. -- HEARING --- Tom Jungman--1950 St. Clair
Application for SUP to build double
bungalow on one acre lot in Lot 4, Block 1,
2nd, Addition, Lake Jane Hills.
8:30 P.M. •-- Wm. H,jelmgrenr-3153 Layton Ct. No.
Requests Special Use Permit to operate
small upholstery business at 10899-32nd. St. No.
9:00 P.M. --- Jess Mottaz-- 7982 Hill Trail No.
Discuss allowing mobile home to be placed
on property in Bergmann Addition until
home is built.
Tom Torseth resignation from PM',
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
Lake Elmo-Tri Lakes Interceptor Facility
Planning Report.
CITY OF y,ARE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
M.INITTES OF THE MEETING OF MARCH 28, 1977
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Grace at 8:45 PM.
Roll Call: Johnson, Dreher, Grace, Novak, Lundquist, Crombie, Cunningham,
Council: Lloyd Shervhei.m, Dorothy Lyons, Tom Armstrong
Midwest Planning: Tom Loucks, and Molly hedges
Resignation: A letter of resignation. from Tom Torseth was accepted by
the Planning Commission.. Mr. Torseth was a great asset to
the P7,C and we are grateful for the time and energy he gave
to the City.
Minutes: Motion by Johnson to approve the minutes of March 8, 1977.
Seconded by Novak. Motion carried 7-0
1-94: A brief discussion on the EIS for I-94.
Tom Jungman: Hearing for SUP to build a double bungalow on a one acre
lot in Lake Jane Hills 2nd.Addition.
Chairman Grace read. a memo from the City Attorney as to
questions relating to whether this request would be detrimental
to the area, health problems as relates to the septic system,
lot size, more than one family dwelling per acre, etc. City
policy thus far has dictated that one family dwelling per acre
is what is allowed. This being due to possible septic problems.
Parl Drown, the builder .for. Mr. Jungman, stated that their
proposed septic system met with the satisfaction of the City.
Inspector Bob Wier. The system would include two septic tanks and
two drain fields.
Bill Lundquist felt that there were two questions to be considered:
1) A multiple home in a single family area and its effect on
traffic, health, surrounding property value, and lot.: size.
2) Multiple dwelling on. a single family zoned lot.
Since the ordinance was adopted in 1965 all multiple dwellings
have been. on a double lot; or larger.
Dick Johnson felt that the septic created the major problem,
and the unit does not meet the standard of 1 unit per 1 acre.
Mr. Jungman cannot see any problems if the septic is workable and.
meets the standards of Lake Elmo. He also felt that this double
bungalow would be no detriment to the area as far as design and.
exterior appearance. He also was under the impression, from
previous discussion, that if the septic system proved adequate
a SUP could be issued.
Tom Armstrong felt that density housing is a long teem problem
without sewer and varying the ordinance would cause problems.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMI.SSIOI? ]MARCH 26, 1977
Tom Jungman Hearing Cont'd: Brian Crombie felt this double bungalow would
be an asset to the City and the area. Since there have been
no problems with similar structures he can forsee no additional
problems with this one.
Dick Johnson felt that if there is no sewer than the density
should be lower for health reasons. Fe also stressed the need
for a sewer plan. for the City, with dates so septic questions
can be addressed adequately when they arise.
A letter from Mr. Paul F. Schrepfer, an adjoining lot owner
opposed Mr. Jun.gmans request.
The hearing was closed at 9:15 PM.
Motion. by Lundquist that the PZC recommend denial of this
request to avoid establishing a presedent of putting multiple
dwellings in a single family area on a single lot.
Seconded by Johnson. Motion carried 5-0 Opposed Crombie & Grace.
Brian Crombie stated that since this request was rejected for
lack of zoning that the City designate an area where this type
of housing would be acceptable.
Wm. Hjelmgren: SUP to operate upholstery business at 10899 32nd St. N
A public hearing will be held April 12, 1977 at 8 PM.
Jess Mottaz: Mobile home to be placed on property in Bergman Addition
while building a home.
A proposed amendment to the code, from the City Attorney was
reviewed. Inzndquist moved to amend the ordinance to include
the provisions in the Washington County Code.
Motion by Johnson that Ordinance 402.020 be amended as per
recommendations made by the City Attorney in his letter. of
March 25, 1977, and consideration be given to the extension
of the six (6) month period of occupancy to eight (8) or 12
months. Also the consideration of expanding the ordinance
to include uses permitted in the County Model Code, 3-1-77,
Section 731, Mobile Homes.
Seconded by Lundquist. Motion carried 5-0 Abstain -Novak
Opposed-Crombie.
Brian Crombie questioned how the PZC could reject a multiple
dwelling and approve the use of mobile homes during the
construction. period of a new home, without opening the door
to future problems, which he feels this amended Code will bring.
Jeanne Novak questioned the regulations governing mobile homes
outside a mobile home park. Mobile home parks can enforce the
regulations within their boundaries, but how does the City
set standards and maintain them outside a park?
PTPNNTNG AND ZONING COMMISSION MARCF 28, 1977
Jess Mottaz Cont'd: Since Mr. Mottaz already has a garage constructed on
his property and has indicated he is going to put in two wells
and two septic systems it was suggested that Mr. Mottaz sign
a document for the City stating the structure will not be used
as a residence or a place of business without City approval.
Motion by Crombie that the garage, well and septic will not
be utilized at a later date as a residence or place of business
without proper approval.
Seconded by Johnson. Motion carried 7-0
Tom Jungman: Final comments to the Council as relates to this matter
are that according to the intent of the ordinance it is not
in harmony with the general purpose of the Zoning Ordinance
and Comprehensive Plan.
Adjournment: 11:30 PM
Respectfully submitted,
Brian Crombie, Secretary
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