HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-25-77 PZMAGENDA--PLANNING-ZONING COMMISSION
City of Lake Elmo, Minn, 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD MONDAY, JULY 25, 1977.
7:30 P.M.
Meeting convenes
Roll Ca11
Approval of Minutes
7:45 P.M. -- G. Rehnherg--Rehnberg Realtors-1401 White Bear Ave.
774-9771
Re: Tablyn Park lot size
8:00 P,M. -- HEARING--Jess's Hideaway Plat.._ located at
W 1/2-SE 1/4 Sec, 11 and part of the W 1/2-NE 1/4
Sec, 2, T 29, R 21.
9:00 P.M. -- Mr, Mike Ahrends, Manager of Cimarron and a
representative of Cimarrons Homeowners Assoc.
re: Additions to present structures at Cimarron
Late Addition to Agenda --Monday, 7/25/77
9:30 P.M. -- Howard Springhorn-- 8709 Demontreville Trail
Green Acres Recreation Center
re: Paddle Boats.
9:45 P,M. -- Gerald Clark--772.-3238-- Re: Lot 6, Tablyn Park
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
Resolution re: Tablyn Park (Top Twenty)
Review Zoning Ordinance --comments and suggestions
Systems Statement
By -Laws amendment
Discuss Planning Program on Monday, August 8th „ at 7:00p.m. with
City Council and Planner.
CITY OF LAKE ELM°
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JULY 25, 1977
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 PM by Chairman Grace.
Roll Call: Michaels, Lundquist, Grace, Novak, Sovereign, Cunningham, Crombie,
Dreher, Larry Whittaker, Administrative Assistant, Counoilperson Lyons
Minutes:
Motion by Novak to amend the minutes of July 12, 3977 as relates to
Albert Liddiooat, to require a survey by a registered land surveyor
of Mr. Liddicoat, Abramourt and Harveys' choice, before approval of
the road alignment and the lots. Seconded by Cunningham. Carried 6-0
Gayle RehnbergtRehnberg Realtors - Tablyn Park lot size
Mr. Rehnberg, representing Mr. Anderson, Bevey and Halverson, owners
of Lots 1, 2, 3, in Tablyn Park, was requesting information on the
requirements for a buildable lot. Building Inspector Mueller
indicated that there were two buildable sites of 150' x 150'. In
order to have three buildable lots the owners would have to acquire
additional front footage to meet the minimun requirements of the code.
Josses' Hideaway: Hearing on plat located at w i SE * Sec. 11 and part of the W g
NE * Sec. 2, T 29, R 21. Variance for gravel road.
Bruce Fo].z gave the presentation for the five (5) acre building sites.
A road will run along the east side of the property to service the
lots, and will have a temporary cul-de-sac at the end. The owners
are requesting a variance for the road to be grave].. This request
is based on the aoceptability of gravel roads in five acre, low
density areas in the new proposed Sub -Division Ordinance.
A plat showing the future resubdivision was also presented.
A question of drainage was brought up, oonoerning water running to
the south. Approximately two (2) lots will drain south the remainder
will drain to the north.
The length of the road with the temporary cul-de-sao was questioned.
Larry Whittaker felt that the reasons for the extended out-de-sa6
road length should be included when presented to the Council.
The Hearing was closed at 8:40 PM.
Motion by Lundquist to recommend approval of Jesses' Hideaway
Preliminary and Final Plat; this approval to include two (2) variances:
1) a variance to permit a gravel road, as described in our. proposed
Sub -Division Ordinance, and 2) a variance for the entended length of
the temporary oul-de-aae. Seconded by Dreher. Motion carried 8-o.
Cimarron: Mike Ahrends, Manager of Cimarron and representative of Cimarron
Homeowners Association - Additions to present structures at Cimarron.
John Mueller, Building Inspector., presented the problems that have been
confronting him with requests for additions, carports, porches, etc.
in Cimarron. He has no authority to issue permits for such requests
as no standards have been set for such addtione. Inspector Mueller
suggested that if these additional structures are desired that uniform
plans be drawn up and presented.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMIS S10
JULY 25, 1977
Cimarron: Mr. Ahrens and Mr. Forsblad presented the questions of
owners in Cimarron. They submitted the lease contract
they are muoh concerned with the appearance, maintanoe
Cimarron.
the home -
and stated
and safety of
Due to the safety hazards, specifically fire, it was felt car ports
and additions are very undesirable. Such item as patio enclosures
should have a structure and material design by Pemton and then be
approved by the City. In all matters, such as these, Cimarron
should give its approval first before it comes to the City.
Martin Callahan will work with the Homewoners Association and the
City to try to work out these problems,
Gerald Clark: Lot 6 Block 3 Tablyn Park
Mr. Clark was seeking information on a lot that does not meet the
standards for front footage. John Mueller will handle the matter.
Howard Springborns Green Acres Recreation Area
Mr. Springborn is requesting permission for paddle boats on a lake
in his recreation areas
Larry Whittaker will call the DNR and check to see what is necessary
for this request.
Motion by Crombie to approve paddle boats in Green Acres, `subject to
a DNR Permit, if such a permit is required. Seconded by Novak.
Motion parried 8-0
By -Laws Amendments Motion by Cunningham to approve the amendment to the By -Laws,
as per the motion of June 27, 1977'. Seconded by Novak. Carried 8-0
Program Planning: August 8, 1977 at 7 PM, has been set for a flsnning Progra with
the Council and Planner. The regular PZC meeting will also be held
on that date.
Systeme Statements No formal acceptance of the letter dated 18 July 1977, from
the City of Lake Elmo to John Boland, Chairman, Metropolitan Council,
was made at the meeting. Further discussion to be made at the next
meeting. Bill Lundquist stated he will accept the letter as written.
Zoning Ordinance: A date for discussion of the Zoning Ordinance is to be set at
the next meeting, This date is to be other than our regular meeting,
Fox Fire Estatess 9100 Jane Road N. - 147 Acres - Subdivision Application
T. A. Sohifisky, 2370 Highway 36, North St. Paul
A Hearing is set for_8_PM on August 22, 1977 for Fox
Adjournment: 11:20 PM
Respectfully submitted,
Brian F. Crambie, Secretary
re Estates.
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