HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-13-77 PZMAGENDA —PLANNING -ZONING COMMISSION
CITY OF LAKE ELMO, MINN. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 1977
7:30 P.M. Meeting Convenes
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
7:45 P.M. Bruce Folz -Approval of final Plats:
Lake Jane Hills - 3rd Add.
Fin, Park - 2nd Add.
8:15 P.M. Continuation of Bearing for"Foxfire Estates"
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
Organization of Planning -Zoning Meetings
RE: Study - work meetings
Appointment Review
City of Lake Elmo
Suggested Agenda Items for Joint Meeting of the City
Council and Planning -Zoning Commission.
Meeting to be held Monday, September 12, 1977, at
7:30 P.M,
Finalize Subdivision Ordinance,
Establish minimum consultant needs for Planner,
Discuss 1-94 frontage roads (if time)
Begin Zoning Ordinance discussion with Council (if time)
Larry Whittaker.
Adjourn 10:30 p.m,
Meeting
Roll Call:
Minutes:
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING INN ZONING CC.T,'ISSION
MINUTES OF THE ME mg OF SEPTf3L'R 13, 1977
was called. to order by Vice -Chairman Novak at 7:30 PM.
Lundquist, Michaels, Novak, Crombie, Cunningham, Johnson, Sovereign
Councils Lyons, Armstrong, Midwest Planning: Jim Christenson
Correction - Fbxfire Hearing - should read ....Hearing Continued until
September 13, 1977, not Hearing Closed.
Motion by Michaels to accept the minutes of August 22, 1977 as corrected.,
Seconded by Lundquist. Motion Carried 7-0.
Eden Park 2nd Addition: Final Plat
Brune Fblz gave a review of the final plat. Two changes will include
the channeling of run-off along a lot line, rather than across it, The
BO Permit for this has been secured. Also, since the City- doee not want the
outlot, it will become a common lot.
Motion by Johnson that the PZC recommend approval of the Final Plat of
Eden Park, 2nd Addition, cnd that the Chcirman and Secretary of the PZC
be authorized to sign the .final hard copy. Seconded by Crombie. Motion
Carried 6-0.
Lake Jane Hills 3rd Addition: Final Plat
Bruce Folz reviewed the fin-1 plat, there are no changes from the
Preliminary. Plat.
The PZC could find no correspondence .from the County F3agineer or the City
Engineer.. Also, the Council is to note there is no record of the Preliminary
Plat approval in their minutes.
The PZC recommends Preliminary Plat approval from the City Council,
before it can tcke action on the Final Plat.
lbxfire Estates: Continuation of Hearing.
Bruce Iblz presented the Fbxfire Concept Plan along with a new proposal
for Green Acres Subdivision. Green Acres Subdivision is to the west of
Foxfire Estates.
Previous concept for development of this pircel was rejected based on
road continuity and accessibility. The new Green Acres Subdivision
will provide an extension of Jamaca from Jsne Road N., through the
Springborn property, to ToMontrevilb Trail N. The upper road of Fbxfire
will also connect with Jamaca., This road connection has the approval of
the County Engineer. This road will provide access from the North and
connect DeMontrevi.11e Trail N. with Jane Road N.
Questions: What about traffic on Jane Road N.? Based on the Councils
previous denial of no continuity of roads, and no flow through
for traffic, the extension of Junaca seems the logical answer
to the problem.
PLANNING AND ZONTNG COMMISSION SEP'T.Elvusrn. , -
Fbxfire Estates: Hearing Continuation
Questions:- What about storm water run-off? A storm water study by the
Engineer should be done for Fbxfire Estates and Green Acres Sub-
division. The developers propose to contain all their water on
their property.
What about underground flow - well pollution if the flow is too
fast? Perculation tests will be done on each type of soil in
the area,
Zoning - what will it be, will it be chLnged? The present PUD
allows for cluster development,
Traffic Counts - have any been done? No, but more information can
be secured, It will be impossible to predict where the traffic
will go.
Since Green Acres Subdivision has filed under a PUD and Fbxfire
Estates originally filed under Cluster Development on their
application, but are nowPUD, wi.11 there be a need for another
hearing? This question to be referred to the City Attorney.
Residents along Jane Road N. feel the road is inadequate to
serve a development.
A memo from Larry Whittaker, Adm. Assistant urges the PZC withhold any recom-
mendations until we receive the necessary correspondence from Tom Noyes.
Since the Fbxfire Estates request is for Concept Approval, they feel en
Enviromental Assessment Study should not be required until there is a
decision made on the concept. The Administrative Assistant wi711determirr when
an »wiromental Assessment Study will be required.
It is advised. that bbxfire Estates and. Green Acres Subdivision be brought in
simultaneously, since the Green Acres Subdivision road has a definate effect
on lbxfire Estates.
It is also advised we go PUD, if this is the recommendation of the City Attorney
and the Administrative Assistant.
Hearing closed at 9:30 PM.
Motion by Sovereign that the PZC recommends Ibxfire Estbtes go through PUD
and would like the Councils reaction. Also, the PZC recommends considering
Fbxfire Estates and Green Acres Subdivision at the same time. Seconded by
Johnson. Motion carried 7-0
Win. Hjlergcen: Variance for garage at 10899 32nd Street, Lake Elmo.
Nr, Hjleiw ren submitted an application for a dormer in the roof of his garage.
The dormer aroa is to be u.,ed for, storage. The dormers are presently on the
garage.
John Mueller, Bldg. :insp. stated the addition of the dormers constitute a 4
story structure. The Code stipulates one (1.) story for a garage. The
original application m-s for a one (1) story g,rLge .r.d the present structure
does not comply,
PLPI\ND'TG FND ZONING COMMIMISSION SEPTEMBJ,R 13, 1977
Wm, Hjlemgren: Variance
Mr. Mueller also feels the storage area will present a fire hazard, this
based on the garage being below the area where flammable material will be
stored.
A letter of objection to the Council, regarding the garage, from Helen Weir
was read.
A hearing is set for. September 26, 1977, time is pending.
Windmcr Estates: Pine Springs - Relocation of County 36 at Hwy, 36
The main concern expressed by the Planning Commission, as relates to the
relocation of County 36, in Windmar Estates, is the drainage from the
entire development, which will effect Long Lake and ultimately Lake DeMontrevi.11e.
Birchwood Nursing Homet Motion by Sovereign that the PZC recommend to the Council that
the City of Lake Elmo advise the City of Woodbury, that they see no adverse
effect and. have no objection to the Birchwood Nursing Home in Woodbury, Seconded
by Michaels. Motion Carried 7-0
Jess Mottaze Mobile home in Bergmann Addition
The PZC is concerned as to the statis of this request. Has the Building
Inspector issued a building permit, as required under Chapter 402.021 of the
Municipal Code, as amended April 5, 1977.
If the permit has not been issued, will the trailer be removed as indicated?
Adjournments 11:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
:Brian F. Crombie, Secretary
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