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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-10-78 PZMTO: The Planning Commission FROM:. 'The City Council../Whittaker DATE: January 19, 1978 RE: Policy of Commission attendance The City Council recommended attendance...for the record; The Council. trill enforce the cerning attendance, to wit: 1 write down the current policy on Commission and for the information of each Commissioner. provisions of the Commission By -Laws con- 1. The Commission Secretary will provide a continuous attendance roster to the Administrative Assistant; 2. Commissioners who exceed the permitted absences. (three in a row or more than six in .one year) will be aksed to resign or may be removed by the City Council. The Council will review this at least annually. GOAL: To insure that informtcitizens with sufficient time to serve on the Commission are serving on the Commission. Conversely, if a Commissioner does not have time. or cannot schedule time sufficient to serve effectively, he or she should be replaced by someone who has. Distribution: City Council Planning Co fission City Clerk tif- AGENDA -PLANNING -ZONING COMMISSION City of Lake Elmo, Minn. 55042 MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, JANUARY 10, 1978. 7:30 P.M. 7:45 P.M. Meeting convenes Welcome New Members Roll Ca11 Approval of Minutes HEARING-- Lee Rossow Tri-Star Co. Subdivision 8:15 P.M. Kelly Brookman Brockman Addition 8:45 P.M. 9:15 P.M. Don Pepin --Pepin Engineers --- 770-2985 Re: Erecting building next to White Hat Restaurant on Stillwater Blvd. Adminstrative Assistant Report Details of Planners Work Program Subdivision Ordinance -- January 17, Final review Zoning Meeting, January 30th„ will also review Cty. Rd. 13 Plans at 7:00 p.m. Council action on Foxfire Council action on Cty. Rd. 15 Regional Park Program 3M-1985 Park GYantt;Plans By -laws --Planning Commission Attendance PLEASE NOTE: REMINDER OF MEETINGS to be held on January 9th, 1978 and January 30th., 1978 regarding the Zoning Ordinance. The City Council and Planning Commission will meet with Tom Loucks at 7:00 P.M., on each of the above dates. The meeting New Member: Roll Call: Minutes: Hearing: CITY OF LAKE ELMO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF THE MIMING OF JANUARY 10, 1978 was called to order at 7:40 PM by Chairman Grace. Duane Grace introduced Don Moris to the members of. the Planning Commission. Mr. Morse wit occupy the position of Dick Johnson, whose term expired this year. Crombie, Dreher, Moris, Grace, Sovereign, Novak, Michaels Council: Lyons, Shervheim, L. Whittaker, Administrative Assistant Motion by Michaels to to accept the minutes of December 13, 1977 as written. Seconded by Dreher. Motion carried 6-0. Tri—Star Addition — Lee Rossow — Development of 48.32 Acres — John Cody Farm 10689 — 60th Street — Section 2 Mr. Rossow presented the proposed plat with some alterations relating to the access road in from Highway 36. There are two proposed Outlots —A&,B, these are to be sold with Lot 1 Block 2 and will serve as a temporary access until 59th Street is completed as a through Fist —West Street. Audience: The question of the ?_Acre exception, with the existing house, was asked. Was this transaction legal, since this is a five acre zone and the house was split off with two acres? Mr. Rossow stated that this pieoe has been recorded and did not know what could be further done. Road drainage — the water follows the property Until it crowns, and it will then flow into the ponds described, the residue then flowing south. Access — the present access onto Highway 36 will be moved 50ft. west. The exception will have access from outlot B. Exception — It was suggested that a variance be required for this parcel. Also, a variance for a gravel road. 59th Street — The Highway Department present feeling is to have no service lane next to highway. Eventually 59th Street may serve as the service lane. 59th Street as proposed, is on the power line easement. Outlots — Larry Whittaker felt the Outlots A & B, as proposed are unac— ceptable. The way Lot 1 Block 2 is proposed, it makes a "U" around the exception. Mr. Whittaker felt the developers could take more advantage of the terrain if some changes were made. Novak recommended that before further consideration can'be given that the reports from MDOT, the City Engineer and Valley Branch Watershed should he received. The public concerns expressed were the water flowage and the direction of 59th Street, with the possibility of the extension of 59th to the East and West. Rezoning, as requested on the application, will not apply. 9:50 the hearing was closed, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JANUARY 10, 1977 Brookman Addition: No report from VBWS has been recei.ved.Two changes are requested by the developers, 1) no concrete curb and gutters be required until sewer is in 2) the Planners report requests alleys. The developers choose not to put these in unless there is a need.. Motion by Dreher to recommend approval of the Concept Plan for Brookman Addition, as it is proposed, and that bituminous curbs and gutters be used rather than concrete until such time as sewer is put in. Also, deletion of the planners recommendation for alleys, as per the City Code. Seconded by Sovereign. Motion carried 7-0 Pepin Engineers: Don Pepin — Erecting a building behind the White Hat Restaurant Mr. Pepin has a contract to purchase approximately 1 acre behind the White Hat Restaruant. The property will fade 35th Street. It is zoned General Business. The building will be approximately 6500 sq. ft. Mr. Pepin does tube bending and tool and dye work. Grace felt this would come under General Industry, rather than General Business. IIe suggested Mr. Pepin make application, then a hearing will be held before it is presented to the Council. Also a pert test is required. Tarry Whittaker, Administrative Assistant: Mr. Whittaker reported on items that have taken plane and those that are pending. January 30, 1978 the PZC and the Council will meet jointly for the Zoning Ordinance. Also plans for Co. road 13 will be reviewed. Time 7 PM. Foxfire — The Planning Commission is opposed to the Councils decision, as relates to the two cul—de—sacs they proposed within Foxfire and Green Acres Subdivisions. Commission Attendanoe was discussed and the amendment to the By—laws will continue to be followed. Election of Officers: Chairman: Duane Grace Vice Chairman: Jeanne Novak Secretary: Brian Crombie Adjournment: 11 PM. Respectfully submitted, Rathleen Crombie, Recording Secretary c2 haazea,9 s s a,z it), c515-0 5-0 B Cis: kAr7 CITY OF LAKE ELMO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JANUARY 10, 1978 The meeting was called to order at 7:L0 PM by Chairman Grace. New Member: Duane Grace introduced Don Moris to the members of the Planning Commission. Mr. Morin Willoccupy the position of Dick Johnson, whose term expired this year. Roll Call: Crombie, Dreher., Moris, Grace, Sovereign, Novak, Michaels Council: I�yon8, Shervheim, L. Whittaker, Administrative Assistant Minutes: Motion by Michaels to to accept the minutes of December 13, 1977 as written. Seconded by Dreher. Motion carried 6-0. Hearing: Tri—Star Addition — Lee Rossow — Development of )8.32 Acres — John Cody Farm 10689 — 6Oth Street — Sect.ion 2 7 Mr. Rossow presented the proposed plat with same alterations relating to the access road in from Highway 36. There are two proposed Outlots —A&B, these are to be sold with Lot 1 Block 2 and will serve as a temporary access until 59th Street is completed as a through East—West Street. Audience: The question of the 2Acre exception, with the existing house, was asked. Was this transaction legal, since this is a five acre zone and the house was split off with two acres? Mr. Rossow stated that this piece has been recorded and did not know what could be further done. Road drainage — the water follows the property until it crowns, and it will then flow into the ponds described, the residue then flowing south. Access — the present access onto Highway 36 will be moved 50ft. west. The exception will have access from outlot B. Exception — It was suggested that a variance be required for this parcel. Also, a variance for a gravel road. 59th Street — The Highway Department present feeling is to have no service lane next to highway. Eventually 59th Street may serve as the service lane. 59th Street as proposed, is on the power line easement. 0utlots — Larry Whittaker felt the Outlots A & B, ab proposed are unac— ceptable. The way Lot 1 Block 2 is proposed, it makes a "U" around the exception. Mrs Whittaker felt the developers could take more advantage of the terrain if some changes were made. Novak recommended that before further consideration can'be given that the reports from MDOT, the City Engineer and Valley Branch Watershed should be received. The public concerns expressed were the water flowage and the direction of 59th treet, with th poas_ibilty of the e tendon e 59th to the East and West. Rezoning, as requested on the application, will not apply. 9:50 the hearing was closed. rLIABA1NU AMU aidninu U)V'IIU i)1un UANUAttY 10, 19'('( Broolanan Addition: No report from VBWS has been received.Two changes are requested by the developers, 1) no concrete curb and gutters be required until sewer is in 2) the Planners report requests alleys. The developers choose not to put these in unless there is a need. Motion by Dreher to recommend approval of the Concept Plan for ]rookman Addition, as it: is proposed, and that bituminous curbs and gutters be used rather than concrete until sunh time as sewer is put in. Also, deletion of the planners recommendation for alleys, as per the City Code, Seconded by Sovereign. Motion carried 7-0 Pepin Engineers: Don Pepin — Erecting a building behind the White Hat Restaurant Mr. Pepin has a contract to purchase approximately 1 acre behind the White Hat Restaruant. The property will face 35th Street. It is zoned General B.teinees. The building will be approximately 6500 sq. ft. Mr. Pepin does tube bending and tool and dye work. Grace felt this would come under General Industry, rather than General Business. He suggested Mr. Pepin make application, then a hearing will be held before it is presented to the Council. Also a perc test is required. Larry Whittaker, Administrative Assistant: Mr. Whittaker reported on items that have taken place and those that are pending. January 30, 1978 the PZC and the Council will meet jointly for the Zoning Ordinance. Also plans for Co. road 13 will be reviewed. Time 7 PM. Foxfire — The Planning Commission is opposed to the Councils decision, as relates to the two cul—de—sacs they proposed within Poxfire and Green Acres Subdivisions. Commission Attendance was discussed and the amendment to the By—laws will continue to be followed. Election of officers: Chairman: Duane Grace Vice Chairman: Jeanne Novak Secretary: Brian Crombie Adjournment: 11 PM. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Crombie, Recording Secretary :k-