HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-13-78 PZMAGENDA--PLANNING-ZONING COMMISSION
City of Lake Elmo, Minn. 55042
MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 1978
7t30 p,M. Meeting convenes
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
7:35 P.M. Richard Bergmann--5833 Lake Elmo Ave.--439-4156
Application for minor subdivision ("B" SW 1/4
of the NW 1/4 of Sec. 1) survey in file -
7t45 P.M. Mts. Sol Fisher (Helen Miller) 8139-38th. St.
Application for SUP for Private Hobby dog kennel
8:00 P.M. W. J. Mmcarthy--1900 W. 78th. Mpls., Minn.
HEARING --Rezoning W2640" of the N. 1000' of NW 1/4
of Section 2
8145 P.M. Jim Weyer--12751'-4th. St.So,r Aftona Minn.
Application for Variance for Lot 71 Krause Addition
Re; Septic System
9;00 P.M. Roger Derrick --Derrick Land Company
HEARING*Subdividing "'Outlot.A"--Demontreville
Highlands, 5th, Addition
900 P M, Don Pepin--11227 Stillwater Blvd. 770-2985
Construct industrial Building on property
east of the White Hat Restaurant at 11011 Stillwater
Blvd,
9x45 P.M, Dean Beutelb,-8866 Stillwater Blvd We.
Res development of 38 acres adjoining Ranridge
Addditions•Jamaca and 212
ITEMS POR DISCUSSION;
CITY OF LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JUNE 13, 1978
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 PM by Chairman Grace.
Roll Call: Dreher, Lundquist, Michels, Grace, Novak, Sovereign, Crombie(8:15)
Council: Lyons, Armstrong, Adm, Assistant Whittaker
Richard Bergmann: Minor. Subdivision - "B" SW4 of the NA of Sec. 1
Mr, Bergmann wants to sell six acres after the Minor. Subdivision.
AB&G are one parcel. Access to A&C is requested, The property is
not :farmable.
Recommendations: 1) Have the Engineer and Planner check against
future road needs. (consider Tri-Star/Rossow alignment.)
2) A & C should not show on registered land survey, only B.
The road frontage off Co. 117 will only be 265.71' with the road
easement out. This would provide access to the hack half of the
southern exception C, on which there are two houses,
3) There should be a Registered Land Survey of all the parcels when
the review is complete.
This request is to be on the June 26, 1978 agenda,
Mrs, Sol Fisher: SUP for Private Hobby Dog Kenne1-81.39 38th St, N.
All the releases from property owners within 350' are in the file.
This SUP to reviewed each year.
Motion by Lundquist to recommend the City Council grant a Special
Use Permit to Mrs, Sol Fisher for Meadowmill Kennels, and a
Variance if deemed necessary by the City Council, per. Page 88 of the
Green Book, Seconded by Novalc. Motion carried 6-1. Opposed Michels.
W,J. McCarthy: Hearing - Rezoning W2640' of the N. 1000' of NW* of Sec. 2
Mr, McCarthy is requesting rezoning of property on Hwy, 36 & Keats
to Genera]. Business for an Oldsmobile dealership, The proposal
provides for access off of Keats Avenue mrtice'road in front or to
the back. This would he maintained as a private road. The area
will be gated off after hours. The dealership will use approxim-
ately 42 of. the 96 acres. The remaining property would be used
for a medical research building or similar use. The power line
runs along the rear of the property.
Audience:
P. Herold: Have there been any consultations with the Highway Dept?
Yes, the Highway Dept, and Washington Co. have been shown the plans,
M. F)ier: Is there any correspondence from the Planner? The
Planner and the Fhgineer have met with McCarthy, but there are no
reports back, Mr. Mier expressed concern as to the procedural
process and to the need of long range planning, as regards to where
commercial property should go.
S. Raleigh: Total rezoning now is out of line. Feels the Compre-
hensive Plan Revision should be completed before any decisions can
be made, Mr. Raleigh presented the PZC with a petition with 68
signatures of residents opposing the request.
E, Stevens: Read a statement in opposition of the rezoning.
T. Armstrong: The statements in the press are not indicative of
how the City will vote on the request.
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JUNE 13, 1978
McCarthy Hearing Cont'd: W. MCCarthy: Peels this is still a good plan
and a good use for property on Hwy 36. It is proposed that 36 is to he
upgraded, thus higher traffic density also the powerline makes this pro-
perty suited for the General Business use.
M. Leslie: Agrees this is not prime residential property. There is one
auto dealership in Lake Elmo, what does it contribute to the City, tar base,
etc.
D, Graces These questions will be addressed during the reviewing as will
what type of use each parcel should be put to. The PLC is not at the point
to make a decision; feedback from the Engineer, Planner and VBWS still have
to be secured.
M. Eder: Appalled that this proposal is allowed to be presented without all
the criteria met. Peels policies are being ignored.
D. Grace: Many things were omitted from the Comprehensive Plan, thus the
revaluation. But this is no reason why a'plan cannot be submitted under the
present plan,
E. Stevens: If tax benefits reason for consideration, why not seek from
other. sources? If this property is so desirable why not seek more desirable
business. Those that are less destructive to a residential area,
K. Schubert: Why in such a hurry to rezone?
W. McCarthy: Bought dealership presently in Stillwater, there is no room
there to expand and needs to upgrade the dealership.
K. Raleigh: Peels since Keats is gravel road, it will become test road for
4-wheel drive vehicles.
W. McCarthy: The dealership has no intention of letting potential customers
use Keats as a testing ground.
9:40 PM Hearing closed, It will be back on the agenda when more information
is available,
Jim Weyer: Variance for Lot 7, Krause Addition - Septic System
Mr, Weyer has two requests: 1) the Shore Line Management regulation
requires a septic system be 75' from the high water line. He is
requesting to go to 50'. 2) move the septic within 5' of the lot
line. The lot is 200' wide and 175' deep.
Bob Weir confirmed the system more than adequate and could see
no problems with the request. The pert tests are done and in order,
Motion by Crombie to recommend approval of the variance as requested
from the road set -back and also a variance from the Shoreline
Management Regulation from 75' to 60'. Seconded by Michels.
Motion Carried 5-2 Opposed, Novak and Dreher,
Roger Derrick: Rearing - Subdividing Outlet A - DeMontreville Highlands-5th
Addition
0utlot A was not platted with the rest of the property due to the
request of the DNR and the City for the possible purchase of the
property by the DNR. There are 10 acres, with six lots proposed
The DNR is purchasing the rearing pond and lalceshore,''An exception
being a 45' parcel between the DNR piece and the Citys' piece.
The recommendations of the Planner were reviewed.
Hearing closed at 10:55 PM.
Don Pepin: No appearance
Dean :Beute].: 38 acres - Subdivide into three parcel, 15' of NEi of SR/ of
Sec. 16 T29N, R21W lies N of N right -way of Ten. 212,exc. 125.00
Parcel A is to be added to the Van Scyoc property. Parcels 13&C
to have a common access onto Jamaca.
Motion by Crombie to recommend approval of the Minor Subdivision
Along with the common access to parcels B&C. Seconded by Sovereign
' Cp,vr:f,ed 7-0
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Minutes: Motion by Lundquist to approve the minutes of. May 22, 1978.
Seconded by Dreher Motion carried 7-0
Mrs. Sol fisher — Ilobby Kennel — further recommendations
This request fits the criteria of a Special Use Permit, as relates
to noise, odor, use, and neighbor approval. This venture should
not expand beyond that of a hobby kennel, thus no boarding of other
dogs.
Motion by Crombie to recommend that there be no signs except on
the owners property. Seconded by Michels. Carried 7-0
Bergmann Property: Question how a home was built, within the last year on a
two acre parcel in a five acre Ag Zone. No request came before PZC.
Request: The PZO feels there is a lack of communication within the City
as to violations of the City Code after the fact.
Derrick Land: Motion by Crombie to recommend concept approval for the
Subdivision of Outlot Al contingent on securing soils that -indicating
suitable"drainfield sites on all six lots, prior to preliminary
plat approval. Also the five requirements of the Planner and the
Engineer are to be met. The'451 of privately owned lakeshore is
to he deleted. Seconded by Michels. Motion carried 7-0.
Adjournment: 12:15 PM
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Crombie,
Recording Secretary
/The list of names and addresseSattending the WallyMccarthy
l Hearing areon file with the original copy of the minutes,
in the City Officeo)
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CITY OF LAKE ELM0
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING.OF JUNE 130 1978
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 PM by. Chairman Grace
.Roll Call: Dreher, Lundquist, Michels, Grace, Novak, Sovoreign9'Crombie(8:15)
Council: Lyons, Armstrong, Adm. Assistant Whittaker.'.
Richard Bergmann: Minor Subdivision m "B" SW* of the NW*- of Sec., 1
Mr, Bergmann wants to sell six acres after the Minor. Subdivision.
AB&C are one parcel.. Access to A&C is requested, The property is
not formable."
Recommendations: 1.) Have the Engineer and Planner check against
future road needs, (consider 7.ri-Sta.r/Rossow alignment.)
2) A & C should not show on registered land survey, only B.
The road frontage off Co, 117 will only be 265,71° with the road
easement out. This would provide accees to the back half of the
southern exception 09 on which there are two houses,
3) There should be a Registered Land Survey of all the parcels when
the review is complete.
This request is to be on the June 269 1978 agenda,
Mrs, Sol Fisher: SUP for Private Hobby Dog Kennel-8139 38th St ,N
All the releases from property owners within 350° are in the'file,
This SUP to reviewed each year,
Motion by Lundquist to recommend. the•City Council grant a Special
Use Permit to Mrs, Sql Fisher for Meadowmill. Kennels, -and a
Variance if deemed necessary by the City Council, per Page 88 of the
Green Book, Seconded by Novak, Motion carried 6-1. 0pposed Michels,
W,J, McCarthy: Hearing -• Rezoning W2640° of the N. 1000° of
of Sec, 2
Mr, McCarthy is requesting rezoning of property on Hwy, 36 & Keats
to General Business for an Oldsmobile dealership. The proposal
provides for access off of Keats Avenue sarvice'road in front or to
the back. This would be maintained as a private road, The area
will be gated off after hours. The dealership will use approxim-
ately 42 of the 96 acres, The remaining' property would he used
for a medical research building or similar use. The power line
runs along the rear of the property,
Audience:
P. Herold: Have there been any consultations with the Highway Dept?
Yes, the Highway Dept, and Washington Co, have been shown the plans.
N, llHer,: Is there any correspondence from the Planner? The
Planner and the Lhgineer have met with McCarthy, but there are no
reports back, Mr. Eder expressed concern a.s to the procedural
process and to the need of long range planning, as regards to where.
commercial property should go.
S. Ralei,rh: Total rezoning now is out of line. Feels the Compre—
hensive Plan Revision should be completed before any decisions oan
be made, Mr, Raleigh presented the PZC with a petition with 66 .
signatures of residents opposing the request,
E. Stevens: Read a statement in opposition of the rezoning,
T. Armstrong: The statements in the press are.not indicative of