HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-26-79 PZMCITY OP LAKE ELMO
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES 0P MARCH 26, 1979
Chairman Grace called the meeting to order at 7:40 PM.
ROLL CALL:
Murphy, Prince, Dreher, Michels, Moris, Lundquist, Crombie (9:15)
Also, Administrator Whittaker, Building Inspector Kluegel, Planner
Hob Chelseth
MINUTES: Dreher moved, Seconded by Michels to approve the tinutes of
March 12, 1979. Carried 7-0.
STEINDORF VARIANCE: Government Lot 1, Section 24 — 20 ft. frontage on 30th St.
Don Raleigh examined the abstract for the parcel and determined
the owners had access established before the City ordinances. There—
fore, he feels approval should be given for the 20 ft. frontage and
access back to the 9 acre parcel.
Michels moved, Seconded by Dreher to recommend approval of the
Steindorf Variance with the standard Payne Agreement, and the
stipulation there be only one buildable bite until other road
arrangements can be made. Carried 7-0,
SOUT[i PINE SPRINGS ESTATES: The City received a letter from these developers
requesting any comments Lake Elmo may have. The Administrator was
instructed to write a letter to Pine Springs Estates, stating that
Lake Elmo has no objections to the proposed plat. Michels moved,
Seconded by Moris to instruct the administrator that the PZC has
no questions, comments or objections regarding Pine Springs Estates.
Carried 7-0.
PARRANTO PLAT APPEAL FROM MORATORIUM: Variance request for Dayton —Hudson
Property and Washington 37
The general consensus of the PZC regarding the Dayton —Hudson
Property is that no exemption should be considered, since no
information on this parcel has come in. relating to intended use.
The 1975 request from Dayton —Hudson was consistent with the Comp—
rehensive Plan., but no formal application was made for a PUD,
Mr. Parranto stated that Dave Licht, Midwest Planning, is researching
their files to find the approved PUD he says the City granted D-H.
Grace stated that if an approved 'PUD is .located, it should be sent
to the City and then. the PZC and City Council can reconsider a
variance from the moratorium.
Prince moved, Seconded by Moris the PZC not consider the appeal
from the six month moratorium for the Dayton —Hudson. property based
on the following:
I) remarks made by Mr. Albergotti, Dayton—I[udson Representative
at the March 12, 1979, meeting.
2) lack of information and plans on the intended use of the
property.
3) under section 302.050, B-4, a General Development Plan
has to be made within 12 months. This was not done with this
property under their previous request.
4) the present suggested use is considerably different from
the proposal submitted by Dayton —Hudson. Dayton:: proposed
a high density use with sewer. Parranto indicated a lower
density, without sewer
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PARRANTO APPEAL CONTINUED: 5) the shopping center is deleted.
Carried 7-0.
Washington 37 - Mr. Parranto had a letter from the Highway
Department stating they meet the standards. The elevation
question was answered by review of the plat, with the property
being five feet higher, than originally thought.
Mr. Willard Morton, and Mr. Steve Schmidt, two of the property
owners were in attendance. Mr. Morton owns 40 acres and Mr,
Schmidt is in a joint partnership, with twenty investors, and
they own the remaining 37 acres. They offered to up -date the
list of owners, as the City was under the impression that the
property was owned by Parranto. Mr. Schmidt stated the principal
reason for the delay in proceeding, from the owners view point,
was the sewer question with. Cimarron. They desire to begin work
this spring and the six month moratorium would cause a financial
hardship on the owners. He also feel that the prime ooncern for
the City is that the proposal be.eonsistant with the Comprehensive
Plan.
Michels moved, Seconded by Dreher, to recommend the City Council
grant the appeal to the moratorium for the Washington 37 Property,
based upon our recommendation to Mr. Parranto to pursue sewer and
water from Cimarron, which they have since found out is unavailable.
Motion carried 4-2-1 Nay, Prince, Murphy Moris abstained. This
to be on the next City City Council Agenda.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Rob Chelseth presented the proposed Comprehensive Plan
map, with the suggested changes.
The General Rural area has no specific Ag area; the farming
community, in Lake Elmo, is not strong therefore, it was hard
to draw specific lines indicating such. This zone will protect
an Ag zone for those desiring to farm. Also, this area is the
only oonsistant way we will have t.o.maintain 10A lots or an over-
all density of five homes per j section. This will allow homes
to be clustered, with the remaining acerage reserved in an outlot.
Dreher questioned the desirability of this as to the effect it will
have on the Citys long range roadway plan. The alternative would
be individual 10A home sites. This is not a transition plan
designed for development from rural to high density.
Crombie questioned how the City can draw the cut-off lines for
this area.
Emmet Albergotti .from Dayton -Hudson requested their land be held
out as one major parcel, thereby, allowing planning and development
of a total 1000 acres. He feels this parcel is unique in its size
and proximity to sewer, Dayton -Hudson plan to sell the land in
one parcel. Grace suggested'putting a ring' around Dayton -Hudson
and allowing a limited number of homes between now and 1990; then
have the developer return and show their future proposals.
Lundquist feels there is no damage in having a Comprehensive Plan
showing what you want and expect in a specific area. What is the
future use of this parcel?
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Commercial Areas The Council feels there should be no
random commercial areas on Hwys. 36 or 94. Chelsoth is showing
a proposed area on 36. Grace would like to see this remain.
Michels questioned the 36 Corridor. FIe feels not all the commercial
potential is shown for 94 Corridor, as is on. 36. The 36 Corridor
was precipitated by the request from Wally McCarthy, and therefore,
this is why this corridor is being proposed.
Chelseth explained why this area would be desirable for commercial.
The powerlines are a big consideration.. They are located so as
to act as a natural buffer on 36. They are not located. as such
on 94. If the City desires to designate another commercial area
this is the most .logical.
Capital Improvements The Citys Capital Improvement plans are
for parks, fire hall, etc. There will he norGeneral Tax Revenue
expended.
Grace reviewed the Comprehensive Plan Map section by section.
The PZC met with agreement on the over-all concept. Rob will
make the minor changes requested.
ZONING ORDINANCE: The PZC will meet with Tom Loucks on April 9, 1979.
COUNTY 13: FIearings should he held soon.
ADJOURNMENT: 11:30
PLANNING -ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA
City of Lake Elmo
MEETING TO BE HELD ON MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1979.
7:30 P.M.
8:00'P,M.
8:30 P.M.
Meeting convenes
Roll Call
Approval of Minutes
Steindorf Variance
So. Pine Springs Estate
Parranto Appeal
Comprehensive Plan
A. Alternate Land Use Plans
B. Capital Improvement Policies
C. Questions or Problems with
Zoning Ordinance.
Miscellaneous Business
Note: April 9 -- Meet with Tom Loucks on Lot Sizes and
Zoning Ordinance.