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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-26-79 PZMCITY OP LAKE ELMO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES 0P MARCH 26, 1979 Chairman Grace called the meeting to order at 7:40 PM. ROLL CALL: Murphy, Prince, Dreher, Michels, Moris, Lundquist, Crombie (9:15) Also, Administrator Whittaker, Building Inspector Kluegel, Planner Hob Chelseth MINUTES: Dreher moved, Seconded by Michels to approve the tinutes of March 12, 1979. Carried 7-0. STEINDORF VARIANCE: Government Lot 1, Section 24 — 20 ft. frontage on 30th St. Don Raleigh examined the abstract for the parcel and determined the owners had access established before the City ordinances. There— fore, he feels approval should be given for the 20 ft. frontage and access back to the 9 acre parcel. Michels moved, Seconded by Dreher to recommend approval of the Steindorf Variance with the standard Payne Agreement, and the stipulation there be only one buildable bite until other road arrangements can be made. Carried 7-0, SOUT[i PINE SPRINGS ESTATES: The City received a letter from these developers requesting any comments Lake Elmo may have. The Administrator was instructed to write a letter to Pine Springs Estates, stating that Lake Elmo has no objections to the proposed plat. Michels moved, Seconded by Moris to instruct the administrator that the PZC has no questions, comments or objections regarding Pine Springs Estates. Carried 7-0. PARRANTO PLAT APPEAL FROM MORATORIUM: Variance request for Dayton —Hudson Property and Washington 37 The general consensus of the PZC regarding the Dayton —Hudson Property is that no exemption should be considered, since no information on this parcel has come in. relating to intended use. The 1975 request from Dayton —Hudson was consistent with the Comp— rehensive Plan., but no formal application was made for a PUD, Mr. Parranto stated that Dave Licht, Midwest Planning, is researching their files to find the approved PUD he says the City granted D-H. Grace stated that if an approved 'PUD is .located, it should be sent to the City and then. the PZC and City Council can reconsider a variance from the moratorium. Prince moved, Seconded by Moris the PZC not consider the appeal from the six month moratorium for the Dayton —Hudson. property based on the following: I) remarks made by Mr. Albergotti, Dayton—I[udson Representative at the March 12, 1979, meeting. 2) lack of information and plans on the intended use of the property. 3) under section 302.050, B-4, a General Development Plan has to be made within 12 months. This was not done with this property under their previous request. 4) the present suggested use is considerably different from the proposal submitted by Dayton —Hudson. Dayton:: proposed a high density use with sewer. Parranto indicated a lower density, without sewer PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES, MARCH 26, 1979 -2- PARRANTO APPEAL CONTINUED: 5) the shopping center is deleted. Carried 7-0. Washington 37 - Mr. Parranto had a letter from the Highway Department stating they meet the standards. The elevation question was answered by review of the plat, with the property being five feet higher, than originally thought. Mr. Willard Morton, and Mr. Steve Schmidt, two of the property owners were in attendance. Mr. Morton owns 40 acres and Mr, Schmidt is in a joint partnership, with twenty investors, and they own the remaining 37 acres. They offered to up -date the list of owners, as the City was under the impression that the property was owned by Parranto. Mr. Schmidt stated the principal reason for the delay in proceeding, from the owners view point, was the sewer question with. Cimarron. They desire to begin work this spring and the six month moratorium would cause a financial hardship on the owners. He also feel that the prime ooncern for the City is that the proposal be.eonsistant with the Comprehensive Plan. Michels moved, Seconded by Dreher, to recommend the City Council grant the appeal to the moratorium for the Washington 37 Property, based upon our recommendation to Mr. Parranto to pursue sewer and water from Cimarron, which they have since found out is unavailable. Motion carried 4-2-1 Nay, Prince, Murphy Moris abstained. This to be on the next City City Council Agenda. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Rob Chelseth presented the proposed Comprehensive Plan map, with the suggested changes. The General Rural area has no specific Ag area; the farming community, in Lake Elmo, is not strong therefore, it was hard to draw specific lines indicating such. This zone will protect an Ag zone for those desiring to farm. Also, this area is the only oonsistant way we will have t.o.maintain 10A lots or an over- all density of five homes per j section. This will allow homes to be clustered, with the remaining acerage reserved in an outlot. Dreher questioned the desirability of this as to the effect it will have on the Citys long range roadway plan. The alternative would be individual 10A home sites. This is not a transition plan designed for development from rural to high density. Crombie questioned how the City can draw the cut-off lines for this area. Emmet Albergotti .from Dayton -Hudson requested their land be held out as one major parcel, thereby, allowing planning and development of a total 1000 acres. He feels this parcel is unique in its size and proximity to sewer, Dayton -Hudson plan to sell the land in one parcel. Grace suggested'putting a ring' around Dayton -Hudson and allowing a limited number of homes between now and 1990; then have the developer return and show their future proposals. Lundquist feels there is no damage in having a Comprehensive Plan showing what you want and expect in a specific area. What is the future use of this parcel? PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, MARCTI 26, 1979 -3_ COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Commercial Areas The Council feels there should be no random commercial areas on Hwys. 36 or 94. Chelsoth is showing a proposed area on 36. Grace would like to see this remain. Michels questioned the 36 Corridor. FIe feels not all the commercial potential is shown for 94 Corridor, as is on. 36. The 36 Corridor was precipitated by the request from Wally McCarthy, and therefore, this is why this corridor is being proposed. Chelseth explained why this area would be desirable for commercial. The powerlines are a big consideration.. They are located so as to act as a natural buffer on 36. They are not located. as such on 94. If the City desires to designate another commercial area this is the most .logical. Capital Improvements The Citys Capital Improvement plans are for parks, fire hall, etc. There will he norGeneral Tax Revenue expended. Grace reviewed the Comprehensive Plan Map section by section. The PZC met with agreement on the over-all concept. Rob will make the minor changes requested. ZONING ORDINANCE: The PZC will meet with Tom Loucks on April 9, 1979. COUNTY 13: FIearings should he held soon. ADJOURNMENT: 11:30 PLANNING -ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA City of Lake Elmo MEETING TO BE HELD ON MONDAY, MARCH 26, 1979. 7:30 P.M. 8:00'P,M. 8:30 P.M. Meeting convenes Roll Call Approval of Minutes Steindorf Variance So. Pine Springs Estate Parranto Appeal Comprehensive Plan A. Alternate Land Use Plans B. Capital Improvement Policies C. Questions or Problems with Zoning Ordinance. Miscellaneous Business Note: April 9 -- Meet with Tom Loucks on Lot Sizes and Zoning Ordinance.