HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-22-79 PZMCITY OP LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION, 00TOBER 22, 1979
Chairman Novak convened the meeting at 7:40 p.m.
Members present: Lundquist, Prince, Michele, Dreher, Crombie, Curare, Murphy
Absent, Moria. Also present Building Inspector Kluegel
Murphy moved, seoonded by Dreher, to approve the minutes of October
9, 1979, as written. Motion carried 8-0.
MIDLAND MEADOWS — PUBLIC HEARING: Bruce Folz explained the minor road construction
changes in the plan and showed the drainage network plan. 51 lots
are proposed for the development. The street grades have been
mailed to the Engineer for. review. A commercial area is proposed,
but no plans for this use are ready at this time.
The developer is proposing a staged development rather than opening up
all ,1 lots immediately. Two pending areas are proposed. One
is about 5A and will store 20 acre feet of water,i.the other will_
storeabout 4.2 A feet of water. The standards for storing the
equivalent of a 100 yr. storm will be met. Mr. Folz stated the
flow through the culvert to Cimarron will not increase.
AUDIENCE:
Mr. Glenn Hagemann — questioned restrictions on home values,
The developer is selling lots only.
Mike Ahrens — Cimarron — questioned the capacity of the holding
ponds. Mr. Folz explained they mill hold and/or store the water
from a 100 yr. storm. The level of the outlet to the culvert is
above this level, additional run—off will bleed out within 24—L8 hrs.
Mr. Ahrens asked if the volumb will be greater than it is now. Mr.
Fels said it could be if. two 100 yr. storms came back to bank. He
also said the run—off is reduoed 25% with the 111 lots. More design
work and a storm water study will have to be done. This will be
reviewed by Valley Branch and the Engineer.
Mr, Hagemann asked is the City has any preoonoieved plan for adjacent
property. Is he considered adjacent property and can he develop?
He has no plans for at least two years. He was advised to come
in when he has a plan.. He is presently RR.
James Flannery — General Council for the Oakdale Gun Club — Would
like to review the plans.
Jack Reese — Oakdale Gun Club — Asked about the drainage running
down loth Street and onto the gun olvb property. Mr.. Folz feels
this will never occur under ordinary conditions, Only possibility
would be a major storm.
Chairman Novak requested the Gun Club submit their comments when
they have reviewed the proposal.
The Planning Commission cannot make any recommendation until all
material and reviews are in from Valley Branch and the Engineer.
Hearing closed at 8:30 p.m.
CITY STREET MAP: The Planner will review the map with the Administrator and
determine what streets should be inoluded, The Planning Commission
questioned if all streets, even gravel roads or just paved City
streets should be designated.
PLANNING COMMISSION, October 22, 1979 —2—
CONSERVANCY ZONE MAP: The objeot of the overlay map is to identify sensitive
areas and make developers andrthe Kenning Commission aware that
special criteria may he necessary. These areas would include
woodland areas, wetland areas, lumbering areas, questionable soil
areas (this will be taken from the soils survey map) and erodible
slope areas.
Michels questioned whether many:;bf these items are not covered by Ordinance
when plans come in for review.
The Planner feels this is a way of formalizing what we do now
informally and will serve as a guide for Planning Commission standards.
Maps covering most of the areas are already available. Each district
would coat about $200 to include. The Net Council suggested this
be inoorporated with the Zoning Ordinanoe with the City adopting one
or more of the districts.'
the Planning Commission would prefer this be a local nrdinanne rather
than one that has to meet Met Council approval. The-Planning_Commission
would like the Planner to identify the inconsistencies in the Zoning
Ordinance vs the proposed conservancy districts and prepare an
alternative way of handling this. Tree and woodland preservation
should not he inoluded. Also questioned was the % of:".slope allowed
for a building site. If there are erodible soils than 25% is too
much, if the soil is stable than the % could be increased.
No action on a Conservancy Map was taken.
VICE CHAIRMAN: Dave Mur ph and Don Moris were nominated for Vice —Chairman.
Dave Murphy was elected the new Vice —Chairman.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:40 p.m,
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AGENDA
Lake Elmo Planning Commission
October 22, 1979
7:30 P.M. -Convene
-Minutes - October 9
7:45 P.M. -Public Hearing - Midland Meadows Preliminary Plat
8:30 P.M. -Consultant cottments on Midland Meadows
-Conservancy Zone - Rob Chelseth
9:00 P.M. -Elect Vice Chairperson