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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-22-79 PZMCITY OP LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION, 00TOBER 22, 1979 Chairman Novak convened the meeting at 7:40 p.m. Members present: Lundquist, Prince, Michele, Dreher, Crombie, Curare, Murphy Absent, Moria. Also present Building Inspector Kluegel Murphy moved, seoonded by Dreher, to approve the minutes of October 9, 1979, as written. Motion carried 8-0. MIDLAND MEADOWS — PUBLIC HEARING: Bruce Folz explained the minor road construction changes in the plan and showed the drainage network plan. 51 lots are proposed for the development. The street grades have been mailed to the Engineer for. review. A commercial area is proposed, but no plans for this use are ready at this time. The developer is proposing a staged development rather than opening up all ,1 lots immediately. Two pending areas are proposed. One is about 5A and will store 20 acre feet of water,i.the other will_ storeabout 4.2 A feet of water. The standards for storing the equivalent of a 100 yr. storm will be met. Mr. Folz stated the flow through the culvert to Cimarron will not increase. AUDIENCE: Mr. Glenn Hagemann — questioned restrictions on home values, The developer is selling lots only. Mike Ahrens — Cimarron — questioned the capacity of the holding ponds. Mr. Folz explained they mill hold and/or store the water from a 100 yr. storm. The level of the outlet to the culvert is above this level, additional run—off will bleed out within 24—L8 hrs. Mr. Ahrens asked if the volumb will be greater than it is now. Mr. Fels said it could be if. two 100 yr. storms came back to bank. He also said the run—off is reduoed 25% with the 111 lots. More design work and a storm water study will have to be done. This will be reviewed by Valley Branch and the Engineer. Mr, Hagemann asked is the City has any preoonoieved plan for adjacent property. Is he considered adjacent property and can he develop? He has no plans for at least two years. He was advised to come in when he has a plan.. He is presently RR. James Flannery — General Council for the Oakdale Gun Club — Would like to review the plans. Jack Reese — Oakdale Gun Club — Asked about the drainage running down loth Street and onto the gun olvb property. Mr.. Folz feels this will never occur under ordinary conditions, Only possibility would be a major storm. Chairman Novak requested the Gun Club submit their comments when they have reviewed the proposal. The Planning Commission cannot make any recommendation until all material and reviews are in from Valley Branch and the Engineer. Hearing closed at 8:30 p.m. CITY STREET MAP: The Planner will review the map with the Administrator and determine what streets should be inoluded, The Planning Commission questioned if all streets, even gravel roads or just paved City streets should be designated. PLANNING COMMISSION, October 22, 1979 —2— CONSERVANCY ZONE MAP: The objeot of the overlay map is to identify sensitive areas and make developers andrthe Kenning Commission aware that special criteria may he necessary. These areas would include woodland areas, wetland areas, lumbering areas, questionable soil areas (this will be taken from the soils survey map) and erodible slope areas. Michels questioned whether many:;bf these items are not covered by Ordinance when plans come in for review. The Planner feels this is a way of formalizing what we do now informally and will serve as a guide for Planning Commission standards. Maps covering most of the areas are already available. Each district would coat about $200 to include. The Net Council suggested this be inoorporated with the Zoning Ordinanoe with the City adopting one or more of the districts.' the Planning Commission would prefer this be a local nrdinanne rather than one that has to meet Met Council approval. The-Planning_Commission would like the Planner to identify the inconsistencies in the Zoning Ordinance vs the proposed conservancy districts and prepare an alternative way of handling this. Tree and woodland preservation should not he inoluded. Also questioned was the % of:".slope allowed for a building site. If there are erodible soils than 25% is too much, if the soil is stable than the % could be increased. No action on a Conservancy Map was taken. VICE CHAIRMAN: Dave Mur ph and Don Moris were nominated for Vice —Chairman. Dave Murphy was elected the new Vice —Chairman. ADJOURNMENT: 9:40 p.m, -PrAtr 4, ?' r,-`sic-a u (,),04cy-yw ' 001 •,7p." /.7 ayn7 /4? s-47. ?l//71y -'hi21N ys G� °1/7g 9J '7 A 1 409eGt/e271/ h fi vp02 ff# /yid? -ri 17 7/79R 6 L -e— oj- G t/ `7 Co t (J(/t (tft of 'gat 'Pan P.O. Box J Thirty-third and Laverne Avenue Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042 777-5510 AGENDA Lake Elmo Planning Commission October 22, 1979 7:30 P.M. -Convene -Minutes - October 9 7:45 P.M. -Public Hearing - Midland Meadows Preliminary Plat 8:30 P.M. -Consultant cottments on Midland Meadows -Conservancy Zone - Rob Chelseth 9:00 P.M. -Elect Vice Chairperson