HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-26-81 PZMLAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 26, 1981
Chairman Michels called the meeting to order at 7 :40 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Gifford, Lyall Mazarra, Dreher, Prince,.Nazarian, Lundquist and
Moe. Absent Halden, Forsblad Also present Adm. Whittaker
3. HEARING - Amend SEC. 301.040, Para. 11 to permit convenience grocery
with Highway Business:
Chairman Michels opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
The City has an application before it requesting the sale of
convenience groceries in a gas station (Kunz Oil) in the HB zone.
Convenience grocery would be included as an accessory use with
automobile service under Highway Business.
There was no audience comments. Hearing closed at 8:50 p.m.
M/S/P Lyall/Dreher to amend Section 301.040, paragraph 11 of
the Zoning Ordinance to add the sale of groceries and dry goods
to the permitted uses in "Automobile Service, Uses" when the
sale of such good is accessory to such Automobile Service Use.
5. COMP PLAN - Metro Council Review Process:
Administrator Whittaker reported on the Engineer's findings
on the sewer system in Section 32. He determined that the
pipe serving Crossroads Ford is large enough to handle all
6,000 units.
Whittaker also explained comments made by Vic Ward, Met Council,
on the City's 1 1/2 A lot size.
6. VACATION OF 15TH STREET IN REGIONAL PARK RESERVE:
Whittaker asked if the Commission had any concerns about the
vacation of 15th Street in the park. He reviewed the section
already vacated and said all the homes on the proposed vacation
section have been purchased by the County.
The Commission expressed no concerns.
4. HEARING - Rezoning of Crossroads Ford property from HB to GB for
Conn -Co .
Chairman Michels opened the hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Paul Bozonie,representing Crossroads Ford, introduced Walter
Johnson, owner Conn -Co Shoes.
Mr. Blnzonie explained Conn-Co's plan to utilize the Crossroads
building for their corporate offices, retail shoe store and
central warehouse. Mr. Johnson described how the different areas
would be laid out; and indicated about 30,000 sq. ft. would be
available for lease.
Conn -Co has purchased 14 additional acres that are adjacent to
the Crossroads parcel. They are only requesting that the
Crossroads property (building and approximately 10 A) be rezoned.
The additional 14 acres will remain HB.
The Commission discussed access, number of employees and hours.
Mn/DOT sent a letter stating they had no concerns, outlining
the area they would be acquiring and indicating the access.
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CONN-CO HEARING:
The Commission agreed this is the type of use they want to
see in this area; this is the type of business they want to
see; and this is what the Comp Plan calls for.
M/S/P Gifford/Lyall to recommend the City Council approve
the rezoning of the Crossroads Ford property and building
to General Business for Conn -Co., Inc.
This will be put on the November 3 Council agenda
7. 50TH STREET - OAKDALE PLAN FOR RELOCATION OF STREET TO HIGHWAY 36:
Whittaker reviewed the proposal with the Commission including
suggested financing and redesignation of County 13.
The Commission had no objections with the plan, as presented, except
nadesignation of CSAH 13 should not be considered.
8. DNR - RECOMMENDATION ON SHORELAND:
The DNR has requested that the City amend Sec. 301.070E.2.f.(3)
of the Zoning Ordinance. The proposed amendment would exempt
substandard platted lots, existing prior to the adoption of
the City's Shoreland Ordinance, from the lot width requirements
and be allowed as building sites, provided that sanitary and
dimensional requirements are complied with. Currently, a
variance is required on sub -standard lakeshore lots.
Whittaker recommended against a blanket variance, as suggested
by the DNR amendment, suggesting individual lot owners come in
and demostrate that they can'tmeet the requirements or intent of the
Ordinance before a permit is issued. This situation exists in
only two areas (3 lots in Eden Park, 2nd and 2-3 lots in Lanes
Demontreville Country Club). He noted a recent.applicati,on_f_or
a permit on Downs Lake -that does not meet the depth requirement,
being only 65 ft from the high water mark Vs the required 200 ft.
on a natural enviroment lake, or 100 ft.' on a general development
lake.
The Commission agreed with the Administrator's recommendation
10. HIGHWAY PLAN:
The Commission reviewed the map, discussed the.problern areas•,=•-'
and made the following recommendations:
A. Co. 13 - determined this alignment.' is critical and right-of-
way should be acquired by the County as soon as possible.
Recommended alignment:
Inwood Avenue to
County 6 (Stillwater Blvd)
*Co. 6 East County 6*West to Jamaca Avenue
amended 11/9/81 Jamaca Avenue North to Lake Jane Trail N.
Lk. Jane Tr. EastLake Jane Tr. N.*West. to Powerline easement off 45th Street
amended 11/9/81 Powerline easement North to Highway 36
The Commission recommended this alignment be designated a
County road and qualify for MSA.
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10. HIGHWAY PLAN - CONTINUED:
B. Alignment of Keats - 45th/43rd connections
Commission recommended the plan include an
45th Street from Julep to 43rd, with Keats
to intersect with this proposed street.
extension of
extended south
C. Completion of Jamaca from Jane Rd. N. to southerly extension
in Foxfire
This was resolved by the City Council at their last meeting.
D.1.Possible completion of Jane Rd. N., west to Hidden
Want to maintain r-o-w on N end - no platted r-o-w
Recommend acquiring right-of-way if ever platted.
Bay Tr.
D.2.Improvement of platted connection between Deerpond Tr. to
Lake Jane Trail -
Leave right-of-way on the books in case the street is ever needed.
E. Extension of 34th Street or 35th Street
Klondike (behind White Hat)
Presently no access to the back half of
Area is not unbuildable - need adequate
presently a problem.
Recommend addressing access at time of development.
F. Improvement of Klondike -
Maintenance costs high. Safety concern:
Recommend Klondike be improved when the
platted. Keep track of maintence costs
be improved sooner.
G. Completion to improvements from Manning
Recommend waiting until the County acts
H. Alignment of 55th, west of Manning -
No interest in a connection between Manning (Co. 15)
Lake Elmo Ave. (Co. 17) at this time.
from Lake Elmo Ave. to
the White Hat property.
land to develop. Not
I.1*Connection of Legion from 20th to 30th -
Recommended showing this on the plan -
Should be improved.
40A to the west is
to determine if it should
Ave. to County 15.
on it.
and
the connection can be done.
I.2.Connection from Legion to Lake Elmo Ave. between 20th
and 30th Sts.
Recommended that the Engineer review the area and determine
the best connection alignment.
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HIGHWAY PLAN:
J. Over-all plan from I-94 to loth St. -
No concerns with the frontage road plans provided Ideal is
built to the frontage road.
Recommended Helmo be extended and connect to the south frontage
road, when needed to serve development.
FUTURE ADDITIONAL ALIGNMENTS:
1. Connecting Tablyn Park to Friedrichville (27th-28th)
Recommended a future connection - show on map - keep City lot
there now.
2. Possible connections south of Lake Jane Hills integrating
38th, 39th, 37th, 36th and Isle.
Recommended that at time of development look at a continuation
plan for the roads, -through streets. Not to be indicated on map.
Isolated Parcels:
3. Back of Klatke Parcel off Jamaca
No recommendation - Address when Nippoldt domes in to subdivide.
No alignment to be shown; but leave notation on map/plan
4. Moris Property off 45th and Julep -
No recommendation - Address when developed - leave notation on map.
5. Pechan - south of Keats extended.
No recommendation - no alignment indicated - leave notation on map.
This would be addressed in extension of Keats to 45th/43rd
6. Payne Property between Keats and Foxfire -
No recommendation - this would front on the new County road
leave notation on map.,
7. Public street to serve Besch and Kaiser property on 31st & tracks.
No recommendation - owner has agreed to plat the right-of-way
to serve the property.
8. Connect Kirkwood to some through street - Jesse's Hideway -
No recommendation - leave notation on plan.
9. Access to Lake Elmo Hardwood from Hwy 5 -east of Hagbergs -
Leave notation on plan. Address when developed.
10. OAK PARK HEIGHTS ANNEXATION:
The Commission had no comments or interest in this action.
11. IMPACT OF NEW HOUSING (Solar, Earth Sheltered) ON ZONING:
Whittaker explained that many of the new energy designed homes
may have difficulty meeting current set -back regulationsbecause
of their design.
The Commission discussed home design, and responsibility of
home owners/builders to ensure and protect energy resources.
--Michels - City should stronglyencourage, by whatever means,
the conservation of energy.
The Commission felt the Ordinances should not be tampered with
until variances or problems come up.
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12. OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS:
Whittaker asked the Commission to think about decreasing
the number of Ordinances rather than continuing to add
regulations. Look at the Code with the idea of controlling
only what is essential. for the public health, safety, and
welfare. There are may regulations that do not get enforced.
Look at ways to decrease the-d'oltc'of government.
The Commission took the Administrator's comments under advisement.
13. JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING:
The Commission agreed to a joint meeting in either November
or January. The Administrator will notify the Commission of
the date.
14. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - J & W MARINE - USED CAR LOTtSCHEDULE HEARING:
Arnold Engstrom, 8431 Queen Avenue, Brooklyn Park, has applied
for a CUP to sell used cars. Mr. Engstrom will also serve as a
salesman for J & W Marine. This is a permitted use in GB.
M/S/P Prince/Mazarra to schedule a hearing for November 9, 1981,
at 7:45 p.m, to hear the request of Arnold Engstrom to operate
a open sales lot at J & W,Marine under a Conditional Use Permit.
Motion carried 8-0. Commissioner Moe was excused at 9:30.
2. MINUTES: M/S/P Prince/Nazarian to approve the minutes of Planning
Commission Action, Item 15, Page 8, of October 12, 1981.
ADJOURNMENT: 10:45 p.m.
• CITY OF
LAKE
ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
777-5510
P. O. Box J / Thirty-third and Laverne Avenue / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
October 26, 1981
7:30 P.M. ---1. Meeting convenes
2. Minutes• --October 12 meeting
7:45 P.M. ---3. Hearing --Amend Section 301.040,
paragraph 11 to permit
convenience grocery with
Highway Business --Kunz Application
8:15 P.M. Hearing --Rezoning of Crossroads Ford property
from HB to GB, for Conn Co. office,
warehouse and retail
8:30 P.M. ---5. Comp. Plan --Metro Council review status
---6. Vacation of 15th. St. in Regional Park Reserve
---7. 50th. Street --Oakdale Plan for relocation of
Street to Highway 36
DNR recommendation on Shoreland
---9. Highway Plan
--10. Oak Park Heights annexation
--11. Impact of new housing (solar, earth sheltered)
on Zoning
- -12. Other Code Amendments
- -13. Next Joint meeting with Council --Nov. or January
10:30 P.M. -- Adjourn,(or after business is complete)