HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-24-82 PZMJOINT PLANNING COMMISSION/COUNCIL MEETING, MAY 24, 1982
Mayor Eder called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
Commission Members Present: Gifford, Michels, Lyall, Prince, Moe,
Nazariaff, Peterson, and Mazzara (8:00) Dreher & Lundquist absent.
Council Members Present: Novak, Mottaz and Fraser. Morgan absent
Also present Administrator Whittaker
1. MINUTES - MAY 17 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - Deferred until
June 14.
2. PURPOSE, POWERS & DUTIES OF PLANNING COMMISSION - SEC. 204.011 &
204.026 of ORDINANCE 7933 -
--Commissioner Prince -'Concerned with Sec. 204.012 - Composition -
requiring that " No member may serve more'than' two "c"oneecutive"
three year terms." Members who have served fof several years
offer valuable historical information.
- -Fraser - advocated this requirement - rotating the membership
provides 'new blood' and makes for a healthier group over a' period
of time. Members can be reappointed after 'a one year absence.
- -Prince - Council has the power not to reappoint any member they
de not feel is contributing or should not continue to "serve.
--Commissioner Michels - Dreher and Lundquist are the only members
this would apply to - both have been of great value to the PZC -
,iave not seen this as a problem;
--Prince - disagrees with -this rule - personally it has taken two
teams to understand, interpret and apply -all the regulations of the
City.
--Novak - agrees with Prince - does not see the necessity of this
rule - have had to search for Commission members in- the past.
--Fraser - reluctant to change at this time. If, over time, this
proves a disservice, then it should'be changed,
This Council will discuss this requirement futher when considering
the entire Ordinance;Jurie 15:
3. GOALS FOR 1982 -
A. Complete Amendments to Comp Plan -
(1) Revise Sewer Plan -
--Whittaker _ Under the present Comp Plan the City cannot
justify the need for more than 2500 sewer units in Sec. 32.
Only forsbeable change, that would affect the sewer plan,would
be the Waste/Energy Plant. '
--Eder - City haste) insure that the units that the residents
in Section 32-and Oakdale were assessed for are protected.
Recommended that the Engineers from Lake Elmo and Oakdale get
together and determine the: exact number of assessed units.
Whittaker will provide the following information for Planning
Commission review and recommendation, June 14: - -
1. a map indicating the exact location of the MUSA line
2. number of assessed sewer units in Lake Elmo Oakdale
3. number of sewer units, from Lake Elmo, Oakdale wants
4. report from Section 32 property owners on their proposed
land use:
Whittaker informed the Planning Commission and Council that a response
has to be in to the Met Council by June 15 in order that reveiw of
the Comp Plan can begin.
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3. GOALS FOR 1982 - Continued -
B, Complete Zoning Amendments - TheCouncilreviewed the Planning
Commission recommendations on the Zoning Ordinance Amendments as
summarized in the Administrator's Summary of 4/12/82.
Whittaker explained the "Private Road" clarification.
--Storage Buildings -
- -Michels - explained Bob Dreher's position on increasing the size
of storage buildings on 10A parcels.,- aesthetically it is bettet
to permit a larger storage building to house equipment, recreational
vehicles, boats, etc. than to have them stored outside
- -Fraser and Mottaz - 4,000 square feet is too large.
--Fraser - large storage buildings would tend to encourage businessc.
on 10 acre lots.
The Council generally did not favor increasing the permitted size
of storage buildings on 10 A sites (RR)
C. Complete Subdivision Amendments - The Council reviewed the PZC
recommendations de —fisted -In their March 8 minutes.
There was a brief discussion on the gap that presently exists
between a Simple Lot Division, 5 acres or less and a Large Lot
Subdivision, 20 acres or more.
- -Eder - past Ordinance required platting after a parcel was split
once.
The Council requested the PZC study this question and make a recom-
mendation to the Council.
D. Amendments to\Mobile\Iome Code - Whittaker reported that in the
opinion of the C ty Attorney, the City's Mobile Home Ordinance is
in compliance with the revised mobile home ordinances recently
passed by the State Legislature. He referred the Council to his
recommendation, as 'stated in his memo of April 30, 1982, on Caretakers.
The Council and Commission agreed additional discussion and review
of the Ordinance is needed, Areas of discussion should include
the definition of mobile homes; zoning areao for manufactured homes;
definition of manufactured homes; storm shelter requirements within
mobile home parks. The Council will provide the PZC with an outline
of discussion items for their review and recommendation.
E. Landscaping Standards - The Council directed the Commission
to continue developing Landscape Standards for recommendation to
the Council.
- -Novak - the Council should determine how specific these standards
should be.
A draft copy of the preliminary standards will be sent to the Council.
F. Highway Plan - The Commission's recommendations on the Highway
Plan are summarized in their October 26, 1981, minutes. The
Administrator will send a copy of the map to the Council for review.
After reviewing the plan the Council will determine whether funds
will need to be appropriated. for 1983.
4. JOHN E. BLOOMQUIST - HEARING DATE FOR REZONING IAT SECTION 34 -
John BloomquiS.t has -requested rezoning a 660'-strip along Highway 12
in Section 34 for construction of a pole barn type building.
The Commission discussed the building size, 10,000 sq. ft., the
type of zoning requested, and the proposed use.
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The Commission determined more information is necessary on- the type
of zoning Mr. Bloomquist wants before a hearing can'be scheduled.
The Comp Plan calls for Highway Commercial,whereas, the proposed
use is more a warehousing/industrial use.
M/S/P Moe/Prince to table scheduling a hearing for John E. Bloomquist
for lack of information.
5. SHAFER MINING - SCHEDULE HEARING FOR CUP AMENDMENT -
Shafer Mining wants to bring in a crusher/processing maching for
use at their mining operation off of Jamaca Avenue. This would
require an amendment to their Conditional Use Permit.
M/S/P Prince/Gifford to schedule a hearing June 14, 1982, at 7:45 p.m.
to consider an amendment to the Conditional Use Permit for Shafer
Mining.
ADJOURNMENT: 9:15 p.m.
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City of Lake Elmo
777-5510
3880 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
AGENDA
JOINT MEETING
Lake Elmo City Council
and
Planning Commission
Monday, May 24, 1982
7:30 P.M. ----Meeting convenes
1. Minutes of May 17, Planning Commission Meeting
2. Purpose, Powers & Duties of Planning Commission
Sections 204.011 and 204.026 of Ordinance 7933
3. Goals for 1982
A. Complete amendments to Comprehensive
Plan to secure Metro Council approval
of Plan.
(1). Revise sewer plan
(2). Consider impact waste to
energy plant might have
on sewer plan.
(Please review April 30 memo, Nov. 13,
1981 letter to Charles Weaver, and
December 10, 1980 memo to Metro Council
for background)
B. Complete Zoning Amendments- Discuss
amendements to the Zoning Ordinance
with Council so Council can complete
revision of City Code and adopt it.
C. Complete Subdivision amendments --discuss
amendments to the Subdivision Ordinance
with Council so Council can adopt for new
Code
D. Discuss amendments to Mobile Home Code
to adopt Code. Determine if there is
a goal to review and amend further --
(see draft Ordinance in packet)
(1) Caretaker on duty
(2) Council approval of building permits
(3) Other
E. Establish priority for discussion of
Landscaping Standards and Highway Plan
continued --over
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City of Lake Elmo
NOTICE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS
The Planning Commission will not
meet on Monday, May 10, 1982,
as there are no formal Agenda Items.
Larry Whittaker
City Administrator
P. 0. Box J / Thirty-third and Laverne Avenue / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042 / 777-5510