HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-9-83 PZMLAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1983
Chairman Prince called the meeting to order at 7:37 p.m.
Commissioners present: Lundquist, Michels, Dreher, Moe, Nazarian
Lyall, Peterson and Alternate Graves. Absent - Gifford and Ryberg.
At the request of Commission members, Whittaker explained the Council
action to seek a declaratory judgement on the hearing procedure and
rezoning for the Chicago & Northwestern Railroad. He briefly explained
the opinions of City Attorney Marshall and Attorney Jim Lammers.
1. MINUTES: April 25, 1983 -
M/S/P Moe/Graves to approve the minutes of April 25, 1983, as
submitted. Carried 8-0. (Commissioner Lundquist arrived at 8:41)
2. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Return VBWD Surveys - Whittaker collected the completed
surveys and returned them to Todd Williams later in the
meeting.
B. Joint PZC/Council Meeting -
M/S/P Graves/Lyall to cancell the regular Planning Commission
meeting for June 13 and meet jointly with the City Council
June 14 at 7 p.m. Carried 9-0.
3. KEN SOVEREIGN - SIMPLE LOT DIVISION WITH LOT SIZE VARIANCE AND
PLATTING REQUIREMENT VARIANCE - GOV'T LOT 2, SEC. 9:
Mr. Sovereign explained his proposal to split off a 1.15A
parcel, which is presently a part of a 10 acre piece (parcel 00401.
The 1.15A lot is partially located between property owned by
Gunnar Gidlow (0030) and Janet Sovereign (0020-parcel 1 & 2).
The lot, as proposed, meets front footage requirements, but does.
not meet the required 1 1/2 acre minimum. Parcels 1 & 2, owned
by Mrs. Sovereign, have one legal description, one parcel number
and is the site of an existing house. Access to parcels 1& 2 is
over a permanent easement across Sovereign's property via a
private driveway. Mr. Sovereign stated the following reasons
necessitating the lot configuration and size:
- this is a compensating lot between two lots having different
ownership.
- area in front of parcels 1 & 2 needs to be retained for future
septic/drainfield areaexpansion.
believes running the front line futher along Olson Lake Road,
just to comply with the lot requirement would be creating
strip zoning- City has approved an!dJpermitted smaller than
minimum lots around the lake.
- New lot would access off Olson Lake Road - not Sovereign's
driveway.
more important to protect the front area for septic/drainfield
expansion for parcels 1 & 2, then provide additional lot area
for proposed Tract A. Also better to have the septic area
to the front away from the lake side.
- Ordinance provides for variance - Hardship is that extending
the front line to increase the lot size, would serve no use-
ful purpose and create problems for future septic expansion
for parcels 1 & 2.
LAKE 1i hMO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY , 1983 / -2-
3. KEN SOVEREIGN - Continued
need to keep options open for future use of the property.
Area in front of parcels 1 & 2 is unsuitable for a building
site- would not comply and could not be developed into a
buildable lot. Area to the south of parcels 1 & 2 is a
potential buildable lot - moving the line of parcel 2 to
provide future septic area would make it impossible to
create a lot to the south.
Commission Comments -
-Graves - since the 10 acre parcel and parcels 1 & 2 are both
owned by Sovereign's (even though parcels 1 & 2 are in Mrs.
Sovereign's name), believes it is possible to provide future
septic expansion for parcels 1 & 2 i.n another location.
-Whittaker - City is not suppose to create non -conforming parcels.
Key question is the hardship - Mr. Sovereign maintains that because of the
shape of parcel 1 & 2 that the proposed lot cannot be made any larger in
order to comply with the area requirements of the Ordinance.
-Nazarian - based on the amount of land between parcel 1 & 2 and Olson
Lake Tr, it appears to be adequate land to comply with the 1 1/2 acre
regulation and still have enough property to provide for a. future driveway
and septic/drainfield expansion for parcel 1 & 2.
-Whittaker - explained that the 60% rule only applies to parcels of record.
-Commissioners Prince, Graves and Nazarian took issue with Mr, Sovereigns
contention that a hardship of the land is created by having to use a buildable
lot to the south, of parcel 1 & 2 for future septic expansion of that
parcel.. P±ince stated that the hardship has to be of the land, not financial
in order to grant a variance.
-Sovereign - wants options left open - it serves no useful purpose to increase
the land area along the road to make 1 1/2 acres, except to comply. Why
should options be spoiled just to comply when this is a hardship. Another
hardship is the Shoreland Ordinance Requirement for dralnfield distance
.from a lake - ordinance requires 275', so expansion area for parcel 1 & 2
have to go in front of that property.
-Whittaker - clarified the Shoreland Regulation which requires 75 ft, from
the highe flood mark for drainfield location.
PLATTING -
Mr. Sovereign requested a waiver of platting
-Graves - concerned about parcels 1 & 2. Would
of the Sovereign property with a proposed plat
possible access to the Sovereign property from
deemed unfeasible),
-Ken Sovereign - regarding Section 401.040
lot is approved and sold.
-Whittaker - Neudahl and Crombie were required
platting ae a matter of policy.
-Ken Sovereign - would agree to plat Tract A with 1.15 A and 125' of frontage
on Olson Lake Trail and Parcels 1&2 with 1.3 acres and 125 feet of frontage
on Olson. Lake Trail.
M/ Graves to table Commission recommendation pending Mr. Sovereign
submitting a plat for Tract A and Parcel 1&2 each having 125' of frontage
on Olson Lake Trail. Graves withdrew his motion after Mr. Sovereign stated
he would not plat the property unless this request for variance of a 1.15 acre
lot were approved, He would agree if approval were contingent on platting.
requirements.
like to see an entire map
layout, (Commission discussed
Hidden Bay - this was
- Would agree to plat if 1.15
to plat - should require
acre
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMLSSION MCI?TTNG, MAY 9, 1983
3. KEN SOPERPTGN:
After further discussion with Mr. Sovereign, the Commission felt a'reasonable
compromise would be that Nr. Sovereign plat two lots - Tract A and Tract B,
which would comprise parcel 1 & 2 combined. Each lot would have a minimum
of 125' of frontage on Olson Lake Road. This action would increase the
size of parcel 1&2 and also give it direct access and frontage on Olson
Lake Trail.
M/S/P Michels/Moe to recommend denial of the Simple Lot Division,
Variance and Platting Waiver submitted by Kenneth and Janet Sovereign.
This denial is based on the understanding that Mr. Sovereign will apply
for a Subdivision with a Plat for two parcels - Parcel A & Parcel A.
Parcel B being in part Parcel 1 & 2 (37009-0020). Each parcel will have
a minimum of 125 ft. of frontage on Olsen Lake Trail. Carried 9-0.
This item will -be placed on the May -17 Council agenda,.
14. GRACE COLOSIMO, 8896 JANE ROAD ROWER: Gov't Lot 5, Section 9 —
Ms. Colosimo applied for a Simple Lot Division, Sec. t01.040A, to divide
a 5 acre parcel into to parcels; a variance to build on an unimproved, unplatted.
road. (Sec. 301.109); and for a Waiver of platting requirements. There is an
existing home on the parcel.
The Commission reviewed the Building Inspector's memo of May 5, outlining+
the request and heard Ms. Colosimo's explaination of the proposal. The
Building Inspector's memo indicated that residents on this street and
the unimproved portion of Jane Road N. do not want the street improved.
Colosimo's and Maist.rotioh have easments for access in their_.proper-ty deeds
for the unplatted roadway.
--Whittaker - outlined the variances:
1. Subdivision Ordinance - _tittle -property is not platted and would require
a variance if,the lot were not platted..
2. Roadway - roadway to existing home is not a public or platted street.
Also, road connecting to this road, although it is public right-of-way,
is an unimproved public street. Ordinance require homes to front or have
frontage on an improved public street.
-Grace Colosimo -road was the access to farm house north of this property
(Gaylen Springborn home - old Krause farm). Colosimo's only one's using
thin driveway now. Unsure of the ownership of 0095 easement.
Whittaker - subdivision would. give Colosimo's new home frontage on; an
unimproved public right-of-way, Jane Rd. N., but, would leave existing
parcel without frontage on any type of public right-of-way. City does
not maintain the unimproved right-of-way because it has never been brought
up to City Standards - 'upgrading has been suggested to residents living
on this portion of Jane Rd. but no petition has ever been received.
Colosimo's and Mastrovioh were notified when their building permits were
issued that no more homes could be built on these parcels until the road
question was resolved.
--Grace Colosimo - her understanding that unless 100% of the residents
agreed to improving the road, it would not be paved - this was the
reason the building permits were issued since all the resident would not
agree.
--Whittaker - 30% of residents fronting on street can petition - to date
no petition has been submitted. Approving Colosimo request would require
approving a similar request from Maistrovioh, whose property also abuts
the unplatted roadway.
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1983
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h.. GRACE COLOSIMO:
--Prince — could only consider varlanoe to build on an unimproved.road
if the unplatted roadway, the north/south driveway, would be deeded
to the City, thereby making the driveway unimproved public right—of—way.
--Nazarian — this should. be done regardless.
The Commission agreed that a recommendati.on,at this time would be premature.
The property owner of 37009-0095 needs to be established and if the owner
would agree to deed the property to the City for right—of—way. Once this
is resolved the Commission could consider the lot division.
--Lundquist — property is zoned R-1. Suggested dividing the parcel into
three lots. Gives property owner the option of selling another lot,
if desired, in the future.
--Nazarian — Not requiring platting would be inconsistent with past policy.
--Grace Colosimo — no sure there is enough frontage for three lots — only
wants to divide into two parcels.
--Whittaker — explained. Simple Lot Division vs Platting.
--Prince — cannot act on application before establishing ownership of the
driveway and resolving the dedication question.
M/S/ Nazarian/Graves to table a recommendation on the Grace Colosimo
Simple Lot Division, Variance, and Platting Waiver pending Ma. Colosimo
securing a dedication agreement from the property owner of parcel 37009-
0095.
Discussion:
—Whittaker will discuss the proposal of a home or homes located on an
unimproved street off an unimproved street with the Council and report
back to the Commission before they consider the platting question.
--Prince — at the very least, would have to be a public right—of—way or
a private road agreement. Whittaker will forward a private road agreement
form to Ms. Colosimo.
Motion carried 9-0.
Whittaker will discuss these issues with the Council on May 17 and put
it on the May 23 Commission agenda.
5. INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN COMP PLAN:
wbittaker reviewed and identified the Industrial and Mixed Urban Use Areas
as planned in the Comprehensive Plan. Prince had requested the Commission
to consider deleting the areas proposed in the plan and plan -all industrial
development for.Section 32. Considerations were short and long term use, _-
the ultimate and best use of the property, also location and how and the
reasons for .previ.oua zoning. ' Another consideration, in deleting an
area, was to identify an alternate land use.
Presently, Lake Elmo Hardwood is the only industrial zoned property_in
the City; - A poll of the Commission indicated that Dreher, Michels, Moe, Lyall, Peterson
Nazarian and Lundquist felt the industrial areas identified in the Comp
Plan should stay as they are in the plan.
M/S/P Moe/Graves to adjourn at 9:35 p.m. Carried 9-0.
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CITY OF
LAKE .
iiitELMO
City of Lake Elmo
777-5510
3880 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
May 9, 1983
7:30 P.M.-- Meeting convenes
1. Minutes - April 25 meeting
2. Old Business
** A. Return VBWD surveys
B. Joint Meeting with City Council on
Comp Plan Amendments --June 14, 1983--7:00 P.M.
(Tuesday)
No Meeting June 13 unless pressing agenda
items come up
7:45 P.M.--3. Ken Sovereign-4415 Olson Lake Trail
request for Simple Lot Division and
Variance from requirement to Plat, and
l lot requirement-Govt. Lot 2, Section 9
8:15 P.M.--4. Grace Colosimo-8896 Jane Road North
Simple Lot Division with Variance from
requirement to Plat and subdividing on
unimproved street; unplatted street-Govt. Lot 5,
Section 9
8:45 P.M.--5. Industrial Areas in Comp. Plan
6. Other