HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-11-85 PZMThe Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City
Council. One of the Commission's functions is to hold public hearings
and make recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes
all final decisions on these matters.
Lake Elmo Ordinances require that certain documents and
information be included in applications. The Planning Commission may
postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may
for other reasons postpone final action on an application.
For each item, the Commission will receive reports prepared by
the City Staff, open the hearing to the public, and discuss and act on
the application. If you are aware of information that hasn't been
discussed, please fill out a "Request to Appear Before the Planning
Commission" slip; or, if you came late, raise your hand to be
recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 11, 1985
7:00 p.m. Meeting Convenes
1. Minutes: February 25 and 28, 1985
2. Update on Appointments
3. Green Acres CUP Amendment - Application
by Howard Springborn for addition of a
water slide.
4. 1985 Planning Commission Work Plan
5. Discussion: Recent Planning Seminars
6. March 25, 1985 Planning Commission Meeting
7. Other
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES SPECIAL -MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 1985
Chairman Nazarian called the meeting to order at 7:44 p.m. in the
Council Chambers.
Present: Kuettner, Prince, Dreher, Graves, Lundquist and Moe. Also
present, Administrator Klaers. Absent: Michels (excused), Schiltz,
Lyall.
(amended 3-11-85 PZ meeting)
M/S/P Dreher/Graves to recommend to the City Council approval of the
Large Lot Subdivision for Lyall A and Mary Jean Slawson described as
Parcels A and B from the survey by Bruce Folz dated 12-26-84, located
west of Keats Avenue N. and approximately 1/3 mile south of Highway
36. (Motion carried 7-0).
A special Planning Commission meeting was held on 2-20-85 at 7:44 p.m.
in order to hold a scheduled public hearing on the request of Mr. &
Mrs. Lyle Slawson for a Large Lot Subdivision.
Chairman Nazarian opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. Chairman
Nazarian acknowledged that notice of this hearing had been sent to
residents within 350' of the property in question and that a follow-up
letter was sent from the staff informing them of this special Planning
Commission meeting to consider this application and that the notice
was published in the legal newspaper.
Mr. & Mrs. Slawson have applied for a large lot subdivision of 80
acres into two nominal 40 acre parcels. The location of the 80 acres
in question is approximately 1/4 to 1/2 mile south of Highway 36 and
directly west of Keats Avenue. Mr. & Mrs. Slawson indicated that
their desire to split the 80 acre parcel into two 40 acre parcels was
for the purpose of selling each parcel to two separate individuals for
homesites and that the property would remain in the Ag zone.
The Commission reviewed the memo from the City Engineer dated 1-21-85
in which he indicates that he has reviewed the survey for the proposed
large lot subdivision. The engineer further indicated that the
subdivision meets all the requirements for a large lot subdivision,
the 39.7 acre lot sizes are within the definition of the "nominal 40
acre" lot size and no variances are required for this subdivision.
Topographical data with contours is usually required, but this
requirement has been waived because the contours are not necessary to
evaluate the subdivision. The Administrator noted that no
right-of-way deeds are required for this subdivision and the City has
already received the park donation fee (but will not cash the check
until approval is given by the City Council). The applicants have
been assuredaccess onto Keats Avenue for this parcel of land and the
City does not have any special requirements for driveways.
There were no residents present to offer comments for or against this
proposal and Chairman Nazarian closed the hearing at 8T51-p7m: 7:51 p.m
Commission member Kuettner expressed concern over placement of a new
home on parcel B and the potential for landlocking the northern
portion of the property. She suggested that the a buyer of parcel B
be encouraged to place the homesite at such a location that there
would be adequate room for a road to reach the northerly portion of
the property. In this manner the city is not faced with the
controversy such as they have been with the Durand application for an
access to a landlocked parcel of land should the property ever be
further divided.
M/S/P Moe/Graves to adjourn. (Motion carried 7-0.) The meeting ended
at 7:55 p.m.
February 21, 1985
To: Planning Commission Members
From: Pat Klaers, City Administrator
Re: Agenda Memo for 2-25-85 Planning Commission Meeting
1. Minutes : Attached for your review and consideration are the
draft Planning Commission minutes from the 2-11-85 meeting.
2. Zoning Workshop Discussion : At the last Planning Commission
meeting, there was a brief discussion on the zoning workshop that
Carol Kuettner attended. Also at the last meeting, we distributed
some handouts that Carol picked up at this workshop. During the last
meeting, it was indicated that the commission members would like some
time to review the material that was handed out and that this item
should be on the next Planning Commission agenda for additional
discussion. Please remember to bring the material that was
distributed at the last meeting for a follow up discussion on this
zoning workshop. I found the information on public hearings to be
especially interesting. Additionally, you should note that at the
last City Council meeting, the Council authorized administrative
approval for Planning Commission members who wish to attend future
workshops. This is conditioned upon the total fee for all Planning
Commission members that wish to attend such workshops to be under
$100. If we exceed this $100 amount, we will have to go back to the
Council for approval. If we remain under this $100 amount, we can
attendany conference/workshop that we feel is appropriate.
8. "Public Hearing tb consider Code Amendments': Attached for your
information are Some Sections from the City Code which should be
reviewed in order to consider some potential code amendments. This is
a public hearing and notice has been published in our official
newspaper for this hearing to begin at 7:15 p.m.
A. Section''205.020 Membership FIRE 11 0A"81'E14 1r
This 'section discusses the Fire Chief submitting all applications or
resignations to the City Council for approval. The reality of the
situation is that new people are on board and resignations have
already taken place before anything gets to the City Council. In
August, 1984 the Fire Chief discussed this section of the code with
the City Council and everyone agreed that a more appropriate method of
notification to the Council would be for the Fire Chief to notify the
City Administrator, and in turn, the City Administrator would notify
the City Council. Therefore, this code section should have an
addition to it and read as follows: "The Fire Chief shall submit all
applications or resignation's from the Fire Department to the City
Administrator. The City Administrator will then notify the City
Council of any new applicants or resignations from the Fire
Department".
Planning Commission Agenda Memo for 2-25-85 Page 2
B. Section 210.012 Composition PARKS Cornirli5 1013
The City Council wants to consider deleting the section of the code
that says "No member may serve more than two consecutive three year
terms unless the average years of service for all commission members
is less than four years. A member who has served two terms may be
reappointed by the City Council after a one year absence". If the
Planning Commission and City Council desire a required turnover in the
Commission, then this section should remain in the code. However, if
the Planning Commission and City Council desire to not require a
turnover, and to make appointments based on qualifications and merits,
regardless of length of service, then this section should be deleted.
C. Planning Commission Section 204.012 - Composition
(See comments for item B above)
The Planning Commission should feel free to comment on the section of
the code that relates to the membership of the Planning Commission,
and should feel free to give the City Council different
recommendations on the Parks Commission composition and the Planning
Commission composition, if it so desires.
D. Street Access - Section 401.380F
Please see the attached report from Larry Bohrer. For this code
amendment, Larry is recommending adding a section to our Streets,
Alleys, and Curbs section of our code. I think the narrative provided
by Larry will cover the concerns of the Planning Commission and City
Council. This section will help insure access onto minor streets and
not major thoroughfares.
E - Street Requirements in RR zoned clustered developments.
Section 301.070D2e - Cluster Development Standards.
This item is related to item D above. Also see Larry Bohrer's memo.
Larry Bohrer is suggesting adding a section to our Cluster Development
Standard section of the code under the RR zone. I believe that we
should modify Larry's comments somewhat, and change the last sentence
to read as follows: "Local streets may be existing or may be required
to be provided within the proposed subdivision". This additional
phrase of "may be required to be provided" will help insure the City
that we will not have a cluster developent with all seven lots
accessing onto an existing major thoroughfare. However, on a minor
City street, this is your typical gridiron development, and it may be
appropriate to allow this type of development in these areas.
F. Drainfields in RR and AG Zone - Section 301.070 D1d6 and
D6D2c6 - AG and RR Zoned Minimum District Requirements.
For this code amendment, I would like the Council and Planning
Commission to consider adding the phrase which has already been added
to our other zoning districts that says as follows: "Placement of the
second required drainfield between the trenches of the first
drainfield is prohibited". This past fall, we went through the public
hearing process and added that section to our code in the R1, R2, GB,
HB and I zones. For the sake of being consistent, I believe we should
also add that phrase to the RR and AG zone. No mention of drainfields
Planning Commission Agenda Memo for 2-25-85 Page 3
or trenches is listed in the R3, R4 and P zones, and I don't believe
there is any need to add this phrase to those code sections.
G. Size of Accessory:Structures - Section 301.130C and
Sections 301.070D1C, D2B, D3B in the AG, RR and R1
zones.
At a previous Planning Commission meeting, the Commission discussed
following the County's guidelines for the size of accessory structures
in these three zones. Attached for your information is the County
Guidelines and some items that was handed out when this was discussed
at the 11-26-84 Planning Commission meeting. Please carefully review
#14 of Section of 301.130C as this is the area that will need
amendments. I am not sure how the Commission desires the wording to
be to reflect the County's guidelines, but a narrative change under
#14 A, B & C may be required. Additionally, these changes should also
be reflected in the individual zoning sections under Accessory. Uses
and Structures. We may not want to make any changes under the AG zone
section, but we should definitely' make a change in the R1 section for
lots that are larger than 5 acres, but less than 10 acres.
Additionally, changes may be.desired under'the RR section. I don't
have the exact wording'pepared, so we may have to play around with
some. verbiage at the meeting for this item.
4. Clapp/Thommson-Bishop rezoning application and pre -platting: sketch
This item was discussed in detail at the last meeting, as a public
hearing was held for this applicaion. Attached for your information
is the same material that was distributed at the last meeting,
including the application, list of names of residents notified for the
public hearing, a Larry Bohrer report, a Rob Chelseth report, and a
letter from one of the residents, Don Novak. The large map showing
the preliminary plat is not included as this was distributed at the
last meeting. Please remember to bring this map to this meeting as if
a recommendation comes from the Commission, I will need to obtain
these maps for City Council consideration.
The staff believes that this area is appropriate for single family
residential development as it is contiguous to other residential
development on the north and east. I further believe that a rezoning
to the proposed use of R1 would also be appropriate for the 11 lots in
Phase I. At such a time when they desire to develop Phase II, they
will have to obtain a rezoning for this area. Additional soil
information will be required before a rezoning in this area would be
considered.
For additional comments, please review my 2-11-85 Info Memo which
discusses this application.
5. 1985 Planning Commission Work Plan : Attached is a brief memo
indicating the items that have been previously discussed which should
be included in the 1985 Planning Commission Work Plan. Additional
items can very easily be added to this Plan, and we should make an
attempt to finalize this Plan - either at this meeting or the March
11, 1985 meeting. I will then process the Work Plan through the City
Council for its approval. Many of the items on the Work Plan are
related to updating on current activities, and the Commission may want
to include some more review or work study items that could be
considered over a length of time in 1985.
Planning Commission Agenda Memo for 2-25-85 Page 4
6. Other : This item is on the agenda so that the Planning
Commission members can feel free to discuss any relevant activities
that are taking place within Lake Elmo.
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OTHER INFORMATION
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1. SLAWSON LARGE LOT SUBDIVISION PUBLIC HEARING ON THRUSDAY, 2-28-85
AT 7:45 P.M. Please note that we are required to hold a public
hearing on the Slawson large lot subdivision at 7:45 p.m. in the
council chambers on Thursday, February 28, 1985. I notified all the
Commission members of this in a separate memo mailed out earlier this
week. We will need to have a quorum present for this public hearing.
I don't expect any changes in the results of the recommendation, or
the City Council action; but, one resident called to complain that she
did not get an opportunity to provide input for consideration of this
application. I am not sure if anybody will be present for this public
hearing, but it was a technical error on the staff's part, and as long
as the public hearing notice that was published had February 28, we
must follow up by holding this public hearing on this date.
2. I-94 STAFF MEETING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS. The staff has sent out
invitations to all the property owners along the I-94 corridor to
attend an open informational meeting with the city staff beginning at
7:00 p.m. on Tuesday, 2-26-85. I am encouraging at least the Planning
Commission Chairman and Vice Chair to also attend this meeting to help
explain the proposal. I also distributed to all the property owners
the material prepared by Rob Chelseth, and attached a cover letter
helping to explain the situation. I have not received any feedback on
who will be attending this meeting, so we could have a room full of
people - or very few attending. Any comments that we get from the
property owners will be passed on to the Planning Commission and we
will be scheduling a public hearing for this Comprehensive Plan and
Zoning Code Amendment sometime in later March or early April.
3. Attached for your information is the most recent City Newsletter
dated 2-12-85. This Newsletter edition highlights articles on the
1984 Fire Department Annual Report, the resignation of our Maintenance
Foreman and the Office Space Committee being formed.
4. Attached for your information is an article from the Minneapolis
Star & Tribune dated Friday, February 1, 1985. This article discusses
the deep frost in the ground and the potential for flooding this
spring.
5. Attached for your information is a letter from the Tri-Lakes
Association's president, K. G. Gatzke to the Metropolitan Council
relating to the ZYCAD Development on the Oakdale/Lake Elmo boarder
north of Highway 5.
Planning Commission Agenda Memo for 2-25-85 Page 5
6. Wish to inform the Commission that the City has hired Dan Olinger
as our full-time temporary employee. This job will last a minimum of
six weeks and could go on slightly longer, depending upon the time
frame for hiring a maintenance foreman and the weather conditions.
7. At this section in the agenda memo, I usually update the
Commission on recent City Council activities. There is nothing
dramatic to report at this time, but at the next few City Council
meetings, the Council will be considering (1) The code amendments that
the Commission is discussing at its 2-25-85 meeting. (2)
Appointments to the Planning Commission - once they have reviewed the
Planning Commission membership section of the code. (3) Review the
City Attorney applications at its 3-5-85 beginning at 6:00 p.m. (4)
May be making appointments to the Office Space Committee at its 3-5-85
meeting. Three Planning Commission members have expressed interest in
participating on this committee, and if other members are interested,
they should feel free to submit their names. (5) Will make a
recommendation to VBWD regarding the 509 Plan. The Council may want
to request some minor additions or revisions in this Plan. This Plan
is on file in City Hall for public review. (6) May be taking some
action regarding the high water in the Sunfish Lake area. VBWD and
the City are being threatened with lawsuits to stop the pumping from
Lake Jane to Park Pond because a group of people around Sunfish Lake
believe that this water from City Park Pond is getting into Sunfish
Lake unnaturally causing their lake to rise higher than normal. The
Council may be taking some action to try to pump water out of Sunfish
Lake, or may simply have to continue with past practices and pump from
Lake Jane to City Park Pond and do nothing with Sunfish Lake until an
actual lawsuit is filed.