HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-26-85 PZMThe Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City
Council. One of the Commission's functions is to hold public hearings
and make recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes
all final decisions on these matters.
Lake Elmo Ordinances require that certain documents and
information be included in applications. The Planning Commission may
postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may
for other reasons postpone final action on an application.
For each item, the Commission will receive reports prepared by
the City Staff, open the hearing to the public, and discuss and act on
the application. If you are aware of information that hasn't been
discussed, please fill out a "Requet to Appear Before the Planning
Commission" slip; or„ if you came late, raise your hand to be
recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 26, 1985
7:30 p.m. Meeting Convenes
7:40 p.m.
1. Minutes - August 12, 1985
2. Public Hearing for Large Lot Subdivision
(preliminary plat) for Linda Larson located
at the E1/2 of NE1/4 of Section Wand the
E1/2 of the S1/4 of the SE1/4 of Section 2.
3. Call public hearing for rezoning from RR to
R1 a parcel of land described as Part of
Government Lot 3, Section 24. Applicant is
Gene Peltier
4. Call public hearing for rezoning from RR to
R1 a parcel of land described as Part of
Government Lot 2. Applicant is Raymond
Mester.
4. Other
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LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST 12, 1985
Chairperson Nazarian called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. in
the Council Chambers. Present: Novak, Johnston, Graves, Prince,
Lundquist, Moe, Kuettner, Lyall (arrived 7:35). Absent: Lang,
Schiltz
1. Minutes: July 22, 1985
M/S/P Lundquist/Kuettner - to approve the minutes of the July 22,
1985 Planning Commission meeting as presented. (Motion carried
6-0-2<Graves, Johnston›).
2. Public Hearing for Preliminary Plat, and Rezoning for
Finnemann
Enterprises (Midland Meadows).
Pursuant to published notice, this public hearing was called to
order by Chairman Nazarian at 7:35 p.m. in the council chambers.
Mr. J. R. Stockstead explained the need for rezoning from R1 to RR
and for preliminary plat approval for Finneman Enterprises
(Midland Meadows) on loth Street North. They will now subdivide
into 12 large lots, 5 being 12 acres in size, 5 lots in 7 acre
size and 2 lots in 4 acre size. The 12 acre lots on the west side
would be rezoned RR. Bruce Folz, representing Mr. Stockstead,
explained in detail the presentation. The driveways will be along
l0th Street North and along Lake Elmo Avenue.
Nazarian acknowledged a letter from Lawrence Bousquet, Director of
Operations, Washington County, dated 7-23-85 to Bruce Folz, a list
of property owners notified, letter from Larry Bohrer to PZ
Members dated 8-8-85, letter from Nels Nelson, Barr Engineering,
to Bruce Folz dated 7-31-85 and Drainage Study for Midland Meadows
by Bruce Folz dated 7-10-85.
Prince brought up the letter from Washington County requesting not
allowing driveways at all to access directly to CR 70. Bruce Folz
explained that now they ask for three driveways. One driveway
would serve two houses with 10 cars per house and that would make
20 cars coming in and its absurd to think that this would create a
traffic problem. The road is flat, and there are no horizontal or
vertical curves. Folz is willing to listen to any good arguments
why access should be denied on that road and feels that the County
is unreasonable. Bohrer in his letter of 8-8-85 stated the
applicant's offer to construct common driveways is reasonable in
this case.
Kuettner questioned what the benefit was for rezoning. Folz
replied rezoning makes it possible for these parcels to be able to
have horses.
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 12, 1985 PAGE 2
Dennis McCarty,
Club asked that
do exist across
the people know
Agreement.
1598 E. Shore Dr., representing the Oakdale Gun
the sellers tell the prospective buyers that they
the road. Stockstead had no problem with letting
and suggested to enter it into the Developer's
M/S/P Prince/Graves - to recommend approval to the City Council
for a preliminary plat and rezoning of the western section of this
property from R1 to RR and contingent upon the drainage plan being
approved by Valley Branch and their final plat showing drainage
easements and in the Developer's Agreement a section stipulating
the owners to inform the potential buyers of the Oakdale Gun Club.
(Motion carted 8-1<Novak-shares concerns of the Valley Branch
Watershed District›).
2. Public Hearing for Rezoning from RR to R1 and Preliminary
Plat approval for Raymond Mester in Section 10. POSTPONED
INDEFINITELY .
The applicant was not ready and this public hearing will
continue at a later date.
3. Public Hearing (continued) for Clapp Thomssen
Pursuant to published notice, this public hearing was called to
order by Chairman Nazarian at 8:30 p.m. in the Council chambers.
Don Bishop explained this is not a Clapp-Thomssen Corporation
Enterprise, but the owners are associated with Clapp-Thomssen.
Nazarian acknowledged the list of property owners within 350 feet,
letters dated 7-19-85 and 8-8-85 from Larry Bohrer to the PZ
Members regarding the Preliminary Plat Review and Lake Elmo
Heights -Preliminary Plat Review.
Chairman Nazarian excused Planning Commission Member Dan Novak
because he was an adjoining property owner.
Kuettner asked if there were only three lots, lot 1, 4 and 5 that
are over two acres and do the lots that are over 2 acres all have
a drainage easement on them. Also asked if the drainage conformed
to the City Standards and the one percent rule. Bruce Folz
answered yes to all three questions.
Prince questioned the park donation and Folz answered it will be
in cash value.
Novak stated that in Tablyn Park there is suspected nitrate
problems. For example, an owner one block from the property had
16.8 and an owner two blocks from the property had 8 or 9 and
Novak gave the names of Reitberger and Pribnew. Folz explained
that their water will be tested and if the well water doesn't pass
you cannot use the well. Some of the lots in Tablyn Park are too
small and the drainfields are poorly designed and should be
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 12, 1985 PAGE 3
rebuilt.
M/S/P Kuettner/Graves - to recommend to the City Council to
approve the preliminry plat and final plat for 11 lots in Phase I.
(Motion carried 8-0-1<Novak>).
M/S/P Kuettner/Moe - to recommend to the City Council approval of
a variance allowing 3 lots, 1, 4, and 5, greater than 2 acres in
size. (Motion carried 8-0-1<Novak>).
4. Large lot subdivision for Linda Larson.
Mark Vedder, North -Northwest Realty, representing Linda Larson
made a short presentation. The total amount of land is
approximaely 91 acres. 71 acres lies along the west side of 17
and south side of 50th Street. 20 acres being west on 17 and
abutts 50th St. from the north. Larson proposes to split property
into 9 parcels. Eight of the parcels will be sold as building
sites. Parcel A was sold to a neighbor to the south to add on to
their present property.
Mark Vedder had questions regarding park donation fees that should
be brought Up at the next meeting.
5. other
Dean Johnston has submitted his resignation from the Planning
Commission as of this August 12, 1985 meeting. Dean will pursue
his MBA and feels that his evening classes will prevent him from
devoting the necessary time to the Commission.
M/S/P Prince/Nazarian - to approve a public hearing for Linda
Larson for August 26, 1985 at 7:40 p.m. in the Council chambers.
(Motion carried 8-0).
M/S/P Graves/Johnston - to adjourn the Planning Commission
Meeting at 9:15 p.m.
August 8, 1985
To: Planning Commission Members
From: Marilyn Banister, Acting City Administrator
Re: Agenda Memo for August 12, 1985 Planning Commission Meeting
1. Public Hearing for Rezoning from R1 to RR and Preliminary Plat
approval for Finneman Enterprises (Midland Meadows) on 10th Street
North, approximately 1/4 mile west of Lake Elmo Avenue.
Attached are the applications for the rezoning and preliminary plat,
the list of property owners that were notified of these public
hearings, a letter from Washington County to Bruce Folz regarding CSAH
17 and CR 70, a preliminary plat of Midland Meadows and a report from
Larry Bohrer. Bruce Folz is representing Mr. Stockstead and should be
present at this meeting to answer any questions from the Commission.
2. Public Hearing for rezoning from RR to R1 and preliminary plat
approval for Raymond Mester at the property legally described as Part
of Government Lot 2, Section 10.
Mr. Mester does not have ready all of the information required for
this preliminary plat and asked that this application be postponed
indefinitely.
3. Public Hearing (continued) for Clapp Thommsen/Don Bishop for
Preliminary Plat and Final Plat Approval for 11 lots in Phase I.
Attached is the application, list of property owners notified of this
public hearing, and two reports from Larry Bohrer.
If the Planning Commission views this proposal favorably, its
recommendation to the City Council should be to approve the final plat
contingent upon the approval of construction plans and specifications,
entering into a developers agreement with the City, and furnishing the
required security bond, plus any other concerns that Larry Bohrer may
have.
Bruce Folz, representing Mr. Bishop, will be present at this meeting
to answer any questions the Commission may have.
4. Call public hearing for Linda Larson for large lot subdivision at
the property legally described as E 1/2 of SE 1/4 Section, 2 and the E
1/2 of the NE 1/4 of Section 11 except parcels 37011-2210 and
37011-2250.
Mrs. Larson proposes to subdivide the approximately 91 acres into lots
of 10 or more acres, with the exception of the south 9.45 acres which
will be sold to the neighbor to the south to add to their existing
property.
According to the code, the Planning Commission is to review the
application and information submitted and call a public hearing. This
public hearing is tentatively scheduled for August 26, 1985 at 7:40
p.m., but can be changed at the discretion of the Planning Commission.
5. Other
If any Planning Commission member wishes to add anything to the
agenda, it can be done at this time.
OTHER INFORMATION
Update on City Council action from 8-6-85:
Approved a shoreland permit and side yard setback for
Russell Anderson at 4891 Olson Lake Trail.
- Approved the large lot subdivision for Gordon
Lundholm as recommended by the Planning Commission.
Approved a rezoning and large lot subdivision to
Frank and Arlene Meyer in Section 3 off of Keats Ave.
- Approved a shoreland permit for Quigley Construction
for Lots 3 and 4 DeMontreville Highlands 5th Addition.
- Approved the site plan and granted a simple lot division
to the Lake Elmo Physicians Clinic.
- Voted not to pump from Lake Jane to Nippoldt's property,
but voted to proceed with obtaining the necessary permits
to pump from the DNR and VBWD in case a suitable site
is found. County Commissioner Artie Schaeffer suggested
that the City look at the possibility of pumping to
Berchen's pond. It was noted that Washington County is
against any pumping to a site in close proximity to the
contaminated landfill as this could adversely affect the
work they have done to clean up this mess.
In relationship to the flooding problem, we just received
the list of water levels from VBWD which may be of interest
to you.
- Will interview five canidates for the City Administrator's
position at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, August 20th.