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and make recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes
all final decisions on these matters.
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postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may
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7:30 p.m.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 22, 1986
MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: September 8, 1986
3. Revisions to the Proposed Future Land Use Map
and Proposed Zoning Map
A. Springborn "Green Acres" Subdivision
B. Metro Urban Service Area (Sections 32-33)
4. Local Ordinance Revisions
A. Approve Draft Amendment to the Agricultural
Zoning District to Allow Alternative Uses
B. Consider Draft Amendment to Change the
Process for Appointing and Re -appointing
Parks and Planning Commission Members
C. Consider Draft Amendment to the Rural
Residential Zoning District to Limit the
Number of Homes When Clustering to 4 Homes
Per 40 Acres; and to Eliminate the Transfer
of Housing Densities.
D. Other
5. Adjourn
oIPPRUVEIJ
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 22, 1986
Chairman Graves called the Planning Commission meeting to order at
7:31 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Graves, Haacke,
Moe, Novak, Raleigh, Reuther, Bucheck, DeLapp, and City
Administrator Overby. Absent: Williams
1. Agenda
Delete: 4B. Consider Draft Amendment to Change the Process for
Appointing and Re -appointing Parks and Planning Commission Members
because this does not have direct bearing on the moratorium and
extra items should not be added to the agenda. Raleigh and Novak
felt the appointments to the Planning Commission is the
responsibility of the City Council. Graves felt it was an
appropriate item for the Planning Commission to clarify, but
should come up at another time.
M/S/P DeLapp/Raleigh - to delete 4B. Consider Draft Amendment to
Change the Process for Appointing and Re -Appointing Parks aand
Planning Commissison members on the September 22, 1986 agenda.
(Motion carried 6-1<Haacke>).
M/S/P Raleigh/Haacke - to approve the September 22, 1986 Planning
Commission agenda as amended. (Motion carried 8-0).
City Administrator Overby reminded the Planning Commission of the
Joint Meeting with the City Council and the public hearing for
consideration of the Moratorium Extension scheduled for Monday,
September 29, 1986 at 7:30 p.m.
Chairman Graves explained that the Planning Commission will have
to reschedule the October 13, 1986 meeting date because it falls
on Columbus Day which is a holiday. The Planning Commission will
meet at 7:30 p.m. on Monday, October 20th and Monday, October
27th, 1986.
2. Minutes: September 8, 1986
M/S/P Reuther/DeLapp - to approve the September 8, 1986 Planning
Commission minutes as amended. (Motion carried 8-0-1<Abstain:
Bucheck›).
3. Revisions to the Proposed Future Land Use Map and Proposed
Zoning Map
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A. Springborn "Green Acres" Subdivision
City Administrator Overby informed the Commission that the
Springborn Green Acres Subdivision concept plan and preliminary
plat were approved in 1978. On this basis, the Springborn
property should remain in the R-1 future land use and zoning
designation.
M/S/P Moe/Graves - to approve changing the proposed Future Land
Use map and the proposed zoning map to indicate that the
Springborn "Green Acres" development is an R-1 area. (Motion
carried 8-0).
B. Metro Urban Service Area (Sections 32-33)
City Administrator Overby suggested that it was not prudent to
"upzone" this area and allow numerous types of permitted uses that
are part of a General Business or Highway Business zoning
district. The recommended procedure is to leave this area in its
current zoning (Rural Residential) until such time when a
landowner or developer applies for rezoning.
Steve Raleigh stated that he would like a chance to review the
package and give an opinion on the overall use.
M/S/P DeLapp/Novak - to approve changing the proposed zoning map
adopted at the 9-8-86 Planning Commission meeting to indicate that
the current zoning for that part of Lake Elmo that is within the
MUSA (Sections 32-33) be retained as Rural Residential. (Motion
carried 8-0).
4. Local Ordinance Revisions
A. Approve Draft Amendment to the Agricultural Zoning
District to Allow Alternative Uses.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to be in favor of
permitted non-agricultural uses for the Agricultural land. Based
on this, the following Ag uses were proposed and the rationale for
conditions in alternate use CUPs are stated. (See Appendix A and
B).
City Attorney Knaak had stated that he liked what Tom Armstrong
suggested and it was just a matter of incorporating them where you
want.
Commissioners Raleigh and DeLapp wanted to eliminate the long
skinny lots and encourage straight boundaries. There was some
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concerns of noise and odor pollution and the setback requirements
from adjacent R-1 through R-4 district. The main goal of
permitting these uses is to try to allow someone to permanently
keep their land in Agricultural.
M/S/P Moe/Haacke - to accept the local ordinance on Agricultural
Districts. (Motion carried 8-0).
M/S/P Raleigh/Reuther - to amend the above motion to add as 6A.
All of the landowners contiguous real estate within the City must
be zoned agricultural and be included within the granted CUP.
(Motion carried 8-0).
M/S/P Moe/Haacke - to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting at
10:05 p.m. (Motion carried 8-0).
APPENDIX B
RATIONALE FOR CONDITIONS IN ALTERNATE USE CUP:
The reasoning behind the various limitations placed in alternate
use CUPs is as follows:
1. The limitation of area being no more than 1h acres per 40
acres is taken from the one house per 40 requirement of the zoning
code. While the alternative CUP does not limit the one house per
40 rule, it adopts as an equivalency that area for nonagricultural
use. Transfer of density is allowed up to 4 units or a total of 6
acres. Six acres should be sufficient for any nonagricultural use.
2. The requirement that the landowner own and operate the
business and live on the contiguous real estate was adopted for the
purpose of assuring that minimal police protection will be required
for any nonagricultural use. A business in a rural area is much
harder to police than a business in a built-up area. Requiring the
landowner to be the owner and operator gives him a vested interest
in the safety of the business. Requiring that person to live on
the premises assures that patroling by police in off duty hours
will not be necessary.
3. The rationale behind outside storage of 150 square feet or
one vehicle for every 2.5 acres is based on densities in RR zones
and R1 zones. The average household has two automobiles and
possibly one boat or RV. At a density of four per 40 in RR this
would be 12 vehicles per 40. This is probably a conservative number.
In R1, using a density of approximately 20 houses per 40 this would
be a conservative number of 60 vehicles. Since the purpose of
alternate use is to allow uses of the property in addition to that
which would normally occur on a one-per-40 basis, the adoption of
16 vehicles per 40 is a liberal appliation of the approximate
number that would be found in an RR zoned area.
The use of 150 square feet as the equivalent of a vehicle is
fair in that it represents a space 7.5 feet wide by 20 feet long.
This area would be large for a car or truck but small for an RV or
larger boat.
4. The 200-foot setback would assure that any business usage
would be further back than the normal house setback line and far
enough from the road so that screening would be more effective.
5. The other requirements that there be no signs, paved
parking areas, no exterior lighting and only agricultural style
buildings are in line with the intention with the ordinance to
maintain a rural atmosphere and the appearance of an agriculture
area.