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AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 27, 1986
7:30 p.m. Meeting Convenes
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: October 20, 1986 (to be handed out)
3. Site Plan and Building Review:
DC Sales Company
4. Zoning Ordinance Revisions
A. Revised Amendment to Industrial Park District
B. Amendment to Rural Residential District,
Clustered Development Standards
C. Amendment to Rural Residential District,
Minimum District Requirements
D. Amendment to Agricultural District,
Minimum District Requirements
5. Review of Comprehensive Plan - Partial Draft
A. Chapters I, II, III, IV
B. Chapter V: Appendix A - Population
Appendix B - Housing
6. Other Business
7. Adjourn
NOTE: The next Planning Commission meeting on Monday,
November 10, 1986 will include the Public Hearing for the 1986
Comprehensive Plan and Ordinance Amendments.
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
OCTOBER 27, 1986
Chairman Graves called the Planning Commission meeting to order at
7:32 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: Graves, DeLapp,
Novak, Haacke, Raleigh, Williams, Moe, Bucheck, Hunt, City
Administrator Overby. Absent: Reuther, Johnson
1. Agenda
Add: 3B. Federal Land Company, 6A. Proposed Alternate uses for Ag
Zoning
M/S/P Moe/Raleigh - to approve the agenda for the October 27,1986
Planning Commission meeting as amended. (Motion carried 9-0).
2. Minutes: October 20, 1986
M/S/P Moe/Haacke - to table the October 20, 1986 Planning
Commission minutes. (Motion carried 9-0).
3. Site Plan and Building Review: DC Sales Company
The DC Sales Company, represented by Jon Ruggieri, Dean & Greg
Dovolis, wishes to construct a 17,000 square foot addition to its
building located at 9242 Hudson Boulevard. The intent of this
addition is to be used as a warehouse for their products. The site
is currently zoned General Business, and the owner has occupied
the building for several years along with two tenants, White Wolf
Ski Shop ad BRS, Inc. The proposed building addition will meet
the expansion needs of DC Sales and the White Wolf Company.
City Engineer Bohrer has reviewed the proposed addition onto the
DC Sales Building for conformity to the City Code and offered the
following comments in his letter of October 27, 1986:
1. The property is zoned General Business. The retail and
warehouse activities proposed are allowed in the GB zone.
The abutting property to the west is zoned GB; the abutting
property to the north and east is zoned Rural Residential.
The applicants stated that warehousing will take 70% of the space
and the remaining 30% will be office and over-the-counter sales of
heating and air conditioning equipment. Novak reviewed the
permitted uses in GB and found warehousing is not permitted. It
was pointed out that storage of products for retail and wholesale
sales is allowed in the GB Zone.
2. Lot size is 5.16 acres, of which 0.57 acres is right-of-way
for the frontage road, leaving 4.59 acres. Minimum lot size
in the GB zone is 1.5 acres.
3. Access to the site is by the North Frontage Road of I-94.
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Application for driveway permit must be obtained from MnDOT.
The applicants contacted MnDOT, who have no recordings of an
easement being placed on this property. MnDOT believes this was a
temporary easement set in place back in 1979 and the County has
not vacated that easement on there records. Also, MnDOT stated
that they had no plans to do any additional substantial work in
that portion along DC Sales frontage. If they did, they would not
go any further to the north.
4. This property is in the Cottage Grove Ravine Water Management
Organization; therefore, rate and volume must be controlled.
The site plan provides a holding pond between the parking lot
and the frontage road. The storage volume provided meets the
City's requirements and the 1% rule.
5. The overflow from the pond will enter the ditch and drainage
system provided by MnDOT.
6. Bohrer understands the existing septic system will be replaced
because of the location of the new addition. There is
sufficient area in the rear of the building for two separate
drainfield sites. This system cannot yet be designed, because
soil tests cannot be run until the grading in the rear of the
property is completed. After soil tests can be completed,
the septic system must be designed and submitted to the
Building Official for review based on 20 gallons per employee
per day plus some allowance for customers.
The applicants have provided the City with a soils report. Bohrer
has made preliminary investigation and verbally told the
applicants that he found the soil suitable for the drainfield.
Marge Williams felt that adequacy of septic systems when ownership
changes should be a future work plan item. The City Administrator
agreed, and will note this as a future work plan item.
7. Based on the 6,300 square feet of retail floor space shown on
the floor plan and Section 301.070 D.7.(5) of the City Code,
51 parking spaces are required. The applicant proposes to
construct 40 spaces now and reserve an area for 48 more
spaces for the future.
Mr. Dovolis explained the reason why they
parking spaces was because the White Wolf
large a parking lot makes a business look
up -front with a few cars). If the demand
the additional parking spaces.
didnt go with the 51
Company feels that too
bad (parking lot
dictates, they will add
Marge Williams stated she would rather see fewer parking places,
considering if they are not going to be used, because of extra
water runoff into ponding areas from this large asphalt parking
lot. After polling the Planning Commission, an interpretation was
that the plan met the parking ordinance. The purpose is to keep
cars off the street.
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 27, 1986 PAGE 3
8. The new addition meets all of the required setbacks. The
existing building is only 4.5 feet from the east property
line where 20 feet is required. This is considered an
existing non-conformance.
Section 301.070, D.7.d., of the City Code provides that where
a GB zone abuts a residntial zone. a 35 foot landscaped buffer
strip is to be provided. This would apply along the east
property line. This cannot be met because the site plan
proposed a driveway within 13 feet of the property line.
The applicants responded to this by approaching it in more logical
fashion considering the restraints. They came up with a dual entry
at each end, east and west. This is the safest and most efficient
parking arrangement one can have.
9. The landscaping plan shows the site will be restored
with a combination of seeding, sodding and plantings.
10. Section 1504.010 of the City Code requires screening
where business use abuts a residential zone (along
the east side) and at loading docks (along the west
side).
Novak would be much more in favor of giving up parking places in a
buffer areas. City Administrator Overby stated the issue is if
the addition does not make it more non -conforming, then the
addition should be approved. Whether you can do anything to
change the loading dock area can be addressed under
non-comformity. Graves encourages the people to provide for
heavier screening not only in front, but along the backside of the
structure.
11. The exterior finish is proposed to be painted concrete
to match existing finish. Some pre-finishied metal
panels and awnings will be used for accents. The
Highway Overlay Zoning District does not permit
painted block as an allowable exterior finish.
Graves asked if the City Administrator would check out how the
exterior finish is addressed in the Highway Overlay Zoning
District.
M/S/P Moe/Haacke - to recommend approval by the City Council of
the DC Sales Site Plan and Building Review as presented contigent
upon the following conditons if they may need variances: a letter
from MnDOT stating a road easement was recorded, exterior finish
of painted block being approved, screening made around the total
east and north side, obtaining the driveway permit from MnDOT,
actual final approval of perking out of the septic system, and
meeting the landscaping requiremnts and 35` buffer zone
requirements. (Motion carried 9-1<Novak: has problems wtih making
non -conforming use more non -conforming and sooner or later we will
have to start enforcing our code or let it go>)
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 27, 1986 PAGE 4
B. Federal Land Company Proposal
Several years ago, the Federal Land Company filed an application
for Planned Unit Development at Cty Rd 19 and the Interstate Hwy
which was tabled because the highway plans were not firmed up.
Now that these plans are firmed, the Federal Land Company is
asking this application be taken off the table and considered.
Graves acknowledged the request and told the applicant that this
application could be considered in the early part of 1987.
4. Zoning Ordinance Revisions
A. Revised Amendment to Industrial Park District
At the meeting of September 29, 1986, the Planning Commission
reaffirmed its desire to retain the existing industrial uses in
the Industrial Park district. All other new uses would not be
permitted. The City Administrator was asked to revise the
ordinance amendment. City Administrator Overby presented the
revised amendment for the Planning Commission consideration.
Novak asked if this issue has been reviewed by the City Attorney
because Attorney Knaak had some concerns about it. Overby replied.
that Knaak has not seen the draft as such.
M/S/P Raleigh/DeLapp to accept the revised Industrial Park Zoning
district ordinance amendment. (Motion carried 9-0).
B. Amendment to Rural Residential District,
Clustered Development Standards
At the October 20th Planning Commissiom meeting, the City
Administrator was asked to prepare a draft amendment to the R-R
zoning district ordinance to include language which would allow
the transfer of housing densities with lot sizes of at least 5
acres. City Administrator Overby presented the proposed amendment
to the Rural Residential District, Clustered Development
Standards.
Novak was not in favor of upping the acreage size on clustered R-R
development to 5 acre minimum, but would like it remain 1 1/2 to 2
acres. Novak stated he does not like 1 home on 5 acres or 1 home
on 10 acres.
City Administraor Overby asked where do you want this to happen in
Lake Elmo: contiguous to R-1 or do y¶u want it spread all over.
By a show of hands a minimum lot size of 5 acres was preferred,
and no transfer of density allowed. The language of E(4) will be
changed according to September 29th minutes: E(4) All new lots
created by the clustered development witihin each 40 acre parcel
or part thereof, shall be contiguous. The transfer of housing
densities between forty (40) acre parcels or part thereof, shall
be prohibited.
M/S/P Novak/Raleigh - to approve the amended Rural Residential
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 27, 1986 PAGE 5
District, Clustered Development Standards with modification of
E(4). (Motion carried 9 -0).
C. Amendment to Rural Residential District,
Minimum District Requirements
At the Planning Commission meeting of September 29, 1986, the City
Administrator was asked to prepare a draft ordinance amendment to
the Rural Residential zoning district which would incorporate the
desired 3:1 ratio of lot dimensions. City Administrator Overby
presented the proposed ordinance amendment for their review.
The Planning Commission suggested changing the minimum district
requirements to : (7) all lots must be rectangular in shape and
any two adjacent sides must have an aspect ratio not exceeding
4:1.
M/S/P Haacke/Graves - to accept the amended Rural Residential
District, Minimum District Requiremts as modified. (Motion
carried $-1-1<Bucheck: The 4:1 ratio didn't sound bad and would
like to consider it further> Abstain: Williams
D. Amendment to Agricultural District,
Minimum District Requirements
At the Planning Commission meeting of September 29, 1986, the City
Administrator was asked to prepare a draft ordinance amendment to
the Agricultural aoning district which would incorporate the
desired 3:1 ratio of lot dimensions. City Administrator Overby
presented the proposed ordinance amendment.
City Administrator Overby pointed out that this would apply to the
area where you would put the farm dwelling. Graves replied that
this applies to the one lot which has a 40 acre minimum so you
don't need a 3:1 aspect ratio. Since you cannot have 3:1 ratio on
40, he didn't see any purpose of considering this.
M/S/P Bucheck/Graves - to reject the proposed amendment to
Agricultural District, Minimum district Requirements. (Motion
carried 9-0).
5. Review of Comprehensive Plan - Partial Draft
A. Chapters I, II, III, IV
B. Chapter V: Appendix A - Population
Appendix B - Housing
City Administrator Overby had presented the Partial Draft of
Chapters I -IV at the last Planning Commission meeting and asked
for any corrections or additions.
Page 1:
This was done in order to take into account the slower growth rate
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 27, 1986 PAGE 6
and smaller family sizes forecasted for the next fifteen- fourteen
years. Also, the City believes that new development in Lake
Elmo must be carefully regulated in terms of location and density
to prevent the premature demand for costly levels of municipal
services.
Page 2:
....for growth and change during the next fifteen -fourteen
years.
The City is committed to following this plan in order to achieve
and maintain the type of community that is desired by the-peopl-e-
residents (an8-leee -elected.--officfals. Amended 11-10-86)
Page 3:
These issues are n of necessarily listed in order of rank or
priority. However, it is logical to first consider what kind of
local community is envisioned for Lake Elmo, since the entire plan
is (er
Add: ....based on economics, but also on the broader image of Lake
Elmo as continuing as a rural residential community with large
lots and low density development
...(Much of which is -still cultivated)
Page 4:
Add: Lake Elmo provides services to other residents of the State,
Washington County, and Hennepin County. Included in these
services are an airport safety zone, interstrate freeway,state and
county roads, access to several city lakes, a major regional park,
a corporate recreational park, gas pipelines, high voltage power
lines, and a railroad mainline. None of these services were built
by or at the request of the City. However, they are accepted as
an integral part of the city's infrastructure. Other services,
such a business and entertainment establishments, governmental
facilities are restricted to those which benefit the local
residents.
...providing alternatives to those wishing to maintain their
farms, yet needing additional source of incomes other than
farming.
Page 5:
Commission member Don Moe felt that there was no need for
alternate Ag uses because we are not downzoning as much land to Ag
as originally proposed. The reason we went to alternative uses
was to give the people that we were downzoning a chance to do
something with their property and at this time there is no need
for it. Raleigh explained his reason in favor of the Alternate
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 27, 1986 PAGE 7
uses was as long as the Comprehensive Plan and City Ordinances
allows anyone to enjoy the priviledgs of an Ag zone, that they
also be allowed the alternative uses.
M/S/P Raleigh/DeLapp - to keep the proposed Alternate Ag Uses.
(Motion carried 13-1<Moe>).
Page 11:
Add: The Planning Commission,
cross-section of the community
and philosophically.
Page 13:
as a body, represents a
both geographically, economically
(b) Commercial and ineita.stHa+ uses that preserve the "open space"
and are compatible with agricultural operations will be allowed.
(c) Area: en ve eve a ban-s@vicss-will--not-be proflded--by_
the City-ovcr -the-next-tee-te-fifteen-years. Service levels will
be aimed at satisfying the needs of rural and agricultural land
uses.
Growth must be controlled because there are no plans to provide
urabn services beyond the MUSA line during the planning period,
and because residential development poses many problems for rural
areas.
Page 14:
(e) Multi -unit residential developments in R4 zones will be
permitted in areas within the MUSA zone.
Page 15:
Although there will continue to be a need for commercial
operations they should serve the community and should be carefully
evaluated to avoid
Page 28:
...2,494 acre feet landfill facility.
M/S/P Raleigh/Graves - to adopt the
(Motion carried A-1<Moe: Alternate
M/S/P Moe/Bucheck - to adjourn the
10:50 p.m. (Motion carried .4 -0).
Comprehensive Plan as amended.
Ag Uses are not needed>).
Planning Commission meeting at