Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-27-87 PZMLAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 APPROVED Chairman DeLapp called the Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:31 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. Present: DeLapp, Simpson, Raleigh, Enes, Stevens, Haacke, City Engineer Bohrer (arrived 7:43 p.m.), and City Administrator Overby. Absent: Williams, Bucheck, Johnson, Hunt, Reuther. 1. Agenda M/S/P Haacke/Stevens - to approve the July 27, 1987 Planning Commission agenda as presented. (Motion carried 6-0). 2. Minutes: June 22, 1987 M/S/P Stevens/Simpson - to approve the June 22, 1987 Planning Commission minutes as amended. (See page 8--Federal Land Company). (Motion carried 6-0). Minutes: July 13, 1987 M/S/P Stevens/Raleigh - to approve the July 13, 1987 Planning Commission minutes as amended. (See page 3, 4. Federal Land Company and page 4, 5. Ed Gorman). (Motion caried 4-0-2<Abstain: Simpson, Haacke›). 3. Upcoming Requests August 10, 1987 PUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance amendment to allow a bakery, bakery/restaurant, retail bakery, wholesale bakery or catering business in the General Business zoning district. City land uses on MnDOT-of-Way, 4th Street & Ideal Avenue 4. PUBLIC HEARING: Comprehensive Plan Amendment to Update the Functional Road Classification The need to update the City's functional road classification has existed since the Comprehensive Plan was partially revised in 1986. The urgency of revising this element became more apparent during the discussions between MnDOT and the City in regard to the City's plans to have the Municipal State Aid designation changed from Kimbro Avenue-50th Street to Kimbro Avenue-43rd Street. This change cannot be approved by MnDOT until the City submits a revised plan map for its functional classification of local roads in Lake Elmo. City Engineer Bohrer prepared a revised Functional Classification map as a proposed amendment to the 1986 Comprehensive plan. City Administrator Overby handed out copies of the Transportation Facilities section of the 1979 Comprehensive Plan, which explains the LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 PAGE 2 purpose of the road classification and its relationship to municipal i road projectS in Lake Elmo. Chairman DeLapp opened up the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. There were no comments for or against the comprehensive plan amendment to update the Functional Road Classification. City Engineer Bohrer explained that the principal arterial streets, Interstate 94 on the South and 94 on the West, are unchanged in the new plan. The Intermediate arterial street, Trunk Highway 36, stays the same in the proposed plan. In the old plan the Minor Arterials consisted of Highway 5, Manning Avenue on the East, Inwood Avenue on the West and 10th Street or County Road 70. In the proposed plan CSAH 19B has been added as a minor arterial street. The most heavily travelled road in Lake Elmo is 20th Street because of Tartan Park. The biggest change are in the collector streets because recently the City asked the Dept. of Transportation to have one of its Municipal State Aid roads turned back to a local street and a new road with a higher traffic count be classified as municipal state aid. The definition of a Municipal State Road where Minnesota law provides that a portion of the state gasoline tax comes back to he counties and the cities in the form of county state aid and municipal state aid. In the case of municipal state aid a City with about 5,000 in population can designate up to 20% of its local road mileage as Municipal State Aid Streets which provides for additional funds for construction, engineering, right-of-way acquisition for collector type roads. There are mininum design standards and construction standards that have to be followed. The proposed changes for 1987 Functional Classification map are: a. Collector changed from Hytrail to DeMontreville Trail b. Collector changed from Lake Jane Trail to 42nd Street c. Collector changed from 50th Street to 43rd Street d. Kelvin Avenue removed from Collector status e. CSAH 19B added as minor arterial f. CSAH 15 alignment changed due to construction g. All other Municipal State Aid Streets added as collectors Chairman DeLapp closed the public hearing at 8:45 p.m. M/S/P Haacke/Enes - to recommend that the City Council approve the revised Functional Classification for roads in Lake Elmo as presented by the City Engineer. (Motion carried 6-0). City Engineer Bohrer reported that there is a plan to overlay 10th Street in 1989 from Manning Avenue to Inwood Avenue. This street took a beating because it was the haul road for the I-94 construction. The County would like to designate this as a County State Aid highway and they will be doing a jurisdictional study to see if there are some county state aid highways that do not function as such (DeMontreville Trail for example). Bohrer would like to see County state aid status LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 PAGE 3 on highway 13 because then the City can designate 15th Street as a Municipal State Aid Street (criteria for selection is it must start and stop at another type of state aid road.) -+ The question was asked when 50th Street would be blacktopped. Bohrer answered it probably would not be unless it becomes a severe maintenance headache for the City or the citizens petition for it. M/S/P Haacke/Stevens - to recommend to the City Council that the presently existing road map of the Comprehensive Plan be replaced by the updated Map No. 10 submitted on 7-27-87 as Item #4. (Motion carried 6-0). - 5. Metro Council Strategic Planning Process This subject was discussed at the June 8th meeting. It was agreed that Commission members would note their own areas of interest, prioritize the issue areas and add new issue areas if needed. A Metro Council staff person told the City Administrator that immediate feedback is not needed, as their timeline is open-ended for this subject area. The intent is to initiate an ongoing method of communication in the Twin Cities region. It was suggested that Mr. Pat Scully, Lake Elmo's district representative on the Metro Council be invited to a Planning Commission meeting. A Metro Council staff person could also be available to attend. New information was given to the Planning Commission such as the July 17th letter listing the Metro Council's work priorities for work in 1988. There will be a public hearing on the agency's 1988 Work ,Program and Budget, scheduled for September 10, 1987. Chairman DeLapp commented that he could not find any emphasis by the Metro Council on excellence. All they are concerned about is minimizing the bad and not maximizing the good (housing, health, education). Barb Haacke felt these were very broad issues and any particular issue that they might feel is relative to Lake Elmo could fit into the first six items. M/S/P Stevens/Enes - The Planning Commission finds itself unable to come up with a priority list; therefore decides the matter undiscussed. (Motion carried 6-0). LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 PAGE 4 6. Metro Council Population Estimate for Lake Elmo Every year the Metro Council provides its estimate of local population, housing types, household and persons per household. An - estimate for April 1, 1987 and the 1986 data was handed out for comparative purposes. City Administrator Overby calculated the numerical and percentage changes from April 1986 to April 1987 to be as follows: 1987 1986 No. & % Change Housing Units 2,045 1,989 +56 2.8% Household 1,994 1,939 +55 2.8% Population 6,090 5,935 +155 2.6% Persons/Household 3.04 3.06 -0.02 NA The Metro Council estimates indicate a higher numerical and percentage annual growth rate from 1986 to 1987 than was projected by the Metro Council's own population projections in the 1986-Metro Development and Investment Framework (+66 persons per year, 1986-1990 at 1.11% per year). The estimated growth is also higher than the straight-line population trend projection that was prepared by the City in 1986. The Metro Council data appears to confirm what was stated in the 1986 Lake Elmo Comprehensive Plan, namely: That the Metro Council's population growth forecasts for years 1990, 1995 and 2000 predict a growth rate trend that is lower than the actual rate of growth that is occurring in Lake Elmo. The average annual growth rate in the 1986 MDIF was predicted to be 66 or 67 new residents per year, or a 1.1% annual increase from 1986 thru 1990. Then from 1991-2000, 40 persons per year or 0.6%. The average growth rate from 1986-2000 is 47.5 persons per year or 0.8% per year. The City's straight-line growth projections (based on actual population change from 1980 to 1986) indicates a potential 117 new 'residents per year or 1.9% growth from 1986 thru 1990. _I The consensus of the Planning Commission was in agreement with the --•Metro Council's population estimate for Lake Elmo. 7. Comprehensive Plan Revisions A. Appendix A. Population -1 The draft appendix was last discussed by the Planning Commission on •November 24, 1986. There were discrepancies in the data in the ipopulation projections, so the Planning Commission tabled action on - the draft appendix. City Administrator Overby tried to correct the data problems in the original draft table. The corrections were •included in the revised table of Metro Council projections, and the revised Lake Elmo straight-line numerical increase table that are both included at the end of the draft appendix. 1 LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 PAGE 5 Two new population projection tables were included. One assumed a constant annual percentage increase and constant household size. The other assumes a constant annual percentage increase and decreasing household size. City Administrator Overby suggested choosing either the second or third tables which use the constant percentage annual rate of increase. The Planning Commission's choice depended on whether they thought household size would stay the same in Lake Elmo thru the year 2000, or whether household size will decrease as predicted by the Metro Council. The actual difference would be more growth in the number of households if there is a decrease in the persons per household size. Commission member Stevens expressed his opinion that the rural atmosphere of Lake Elmo cannot be maintained if residential building permits are granted at the rate and lot size of the past year and if commercial permits are granted in addition. The Planning and Zoning Commission would prefer to see a slower rate of development in line with the Metro Council forecast. The Commission recommends that current land use be maintained, as described in the comprehensive plan. Only acres of R-1 remain in the City after these are developed, areas zoned for larger lots are likely to be developed more slowly, so that after the population growth has finished its present bulge, we may expect a slower growth and comformance with the Metro Council plan. Former Planning Commission member Dan Novak explained what he sees happening in Lake Elmo is that all of the unplatted R-1, which has been available for a number of years and apparently the market is now right, is being platted. At the current rate that it is being 'platted, he would guess within a couple of years the R-1 acreage will be completely consumed. This will put the City into an interesting 'dilemma because with that depleted there will be a lot of pressure to 'take the RR acreage and upgrade it to R-1 zoning. Since the City has demonstrated a lack of willingness to downzone to current use, the only other option the City would have to keep it rural is to settle on a population forecast. 'Commissionmember Raleigh felt the Commission could adopt Table I which 'provides for a much more limited growth (Metro Council projections) land much more conservative of the four different estimates. This can 'be done without jepoardizing the acceptance of the appendices by the 'Metro Council because they look upon the 1987 figures as a bulge 'rather than a prediction of the upcoming averages for the next 15 years. The Commission can still present a viable comprehensive plan with a viable set of appendices and have it approved. a City Administrator Overby stated that if the Metro Council tells the City its data is inconsistent they would have to admit this about their own data. Charman DeLapp commented while you could create market forces to come up with any population by the year 2000, the lower the number is the 1' Ji , i M/S/P Simpson/Raleigh - to accept Table I which comes from the ,J Metropolitan Council be put into the Comprehensive Plan without the local trend data on it. (Motion carried 5-1<Haacke: she likes Table 1 3 which shows 3.0 persons per household with 1.97% growth. By making this recommendation, in no way does she feel we should go out and market the City and she feels this table is a good compromise.) M/S/P Raleigh/Enes - to have the City Staff adjust the appendices and have the draft ready for the next time they consider the Appendix. (Motion carried 6-0). i I LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 27, 1987 PAGE 6 more the people would come here because they really wanted to live in Lake Elmo because they went out of their way to live here and wanted to be good neighbors and respectful for what we have and to conform to our comprehensive plan. If we start marketing the town, the quality of life will change. Haacke is not in favor of any marketing, but we should be realistic between the most conservative figures and the most liberal figures. If Section 32 and 33 is brought into this would affect the population growth. DeLapp did not want to factor in Section 32 and 33 because it is a totally different ballpark. Raleigh asked if they should make up two different comprehensive plans to include the portion within the MUSA line and one for the portion outside of the MUSA Line because (Dar goals may be different for different parts of the City. Overby responded that the City does not have a good handle on how many people will be living in Section 32 and 33 as opposed to working there. M/S/P Enes/Simpson - to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting at 10:45 p.m. (Motion carried 6-0). The Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City Council. One of the Commission's functions is to hold public hearings and make recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes all final decisions on these matters. Lake Elmo Ordinances require that certain documents and information be included in applications. The Planning Commission may postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may for other reasons postpone final action on an application. For each item, the Commission will receive reports prepared by the City Staff, open the hearing to the public, and discuss and act on the application. If you are aware of information that hasn't been discussed, please fill out a "Request to Appear Before the Planning Commission" slip; or, if you came late, raise your hand to be recognized. Comments that are pertinent are appreciated. AGENDA LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 27, 1987 7:30 p.m. MEETING CONVENES 1. Agenda 2. Minutes: June 22, 1987 July 13, 1987 3. Upcoming Requests 7:45 p.m. 4. PUBLIC HEARING: Comprehensive Plan Amendment to Update the Functional Road Classification 5. Metro Council Strategic Planning Process 6. Metro Council Population Estimate for Lake Elmo 7. Comprehensive Plan Revisions A. Appendix A. Population 8. Other 9. Adjourn