HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-14-88 PZMThe Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City Council.
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AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA
MARCH 14, 1988
7:30 p.m. 1. Agenda
2. Minutes: February 22, 1988
3. Downs Lake Estates Preliminary Plat
(continued)
4. Packard Park 3rd Addition Rezoning
(continued)
5. Residential Estates (continued)
6. Section 32/33 Discussion
7. Request for Lot Split/Adjustment
Robert Leaf
8. Comprehensive Plan Discussion
A. Sign Ordinance
9. Adjourn
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
MARCH 14, 1988
Chairman DeLapp called the Planning Commission meeting to order at
7:31 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: DeLapp, Williams,
Bucheck, Haacke, Hunt, Simpson, Kunde, Enes, Johnston and Acting
Administrator Kueffner. Absent: Stevens, Johnson.
1. Agenda.
The consensus of the Commission was to limit each agenda item to
one-half hour of discussion.
M/S/P Williams/Enes - to approve the March 14, 1988 Planning
Commission agenda as presented with limiting each agenda item to
one-half hour of discussion. (Motion carried 9-0).
2. Minutes: February 22, 1988
M/S/P Haacke/Johnson - to approve the February 22, 1988 Planning
Commission minutes as amended. (See page 2-Downs Lake Estates, Page
5-RE Residential Estates). (Motion carried 7-0-2<Abstain: Enes,
Williams>).
3. Downs Lake Estates Preliminary Plat (Continued)
At the public hearing on this proposed plat, the Planning Commission
asked the City Council for permission to have our City Engineer review
Downs Lake 2nd Addition, which lies entirely within the boundaries of
West Lakeland.
Larry Bohrer told the Council at its March 1st meeting that West
Lakeland does follow the guidelines of the VBWD. Therefore, the
Council denied the Planning Commissions request. The City Engineer
also stated that VBWD is studying the feasibility of a project that
would lower the overflow level of Downs Lake.
Marge Williams referred to her handout: Soils -Washington County Soils
#342C (See 305.040D). Wetland data sheet indicated Downs Lake to be:
a. open water
b. size of wetland = 37 acres
c. landlocked
d. area 2 type soils which are described as "Soils formed on
nearly level to steep outwash plains in close proximity to the
terminal moraines of the Superior tills. These deposits were laid by
glacial melt waters.
This area consists primarily of excessively drained medium to coarse
textured soils. The infiltration rate and permeability of these soils
is rapid, which tends to keep runoff at a minimum. The water table in
these soils is usually well below six feet." (The Washington County
Water Inventory , 1983).
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 2
In regard to Larry Bohrer's statement of February 19, 1988 that the
developer does not propose to provide ponding, Marge referred to
(Section 401.240B.3) does say that provisions for surface water
disposal, drainage and flood control within the boundaries of the
proposed plat...should be detailed. Bohrer also stated that
subdivisions in the past have been exempt (by precedents referenced of
Crombie Estates and Sovereign). Marge brought up that one may argue
that if we are to be on firm ground with the use of the code, then we
should require ponding in an area that has poor draining soils and
that they are one notch away from being against the code. (See
305.040d).
Ann Bucheck referred to page 40 of VBWD Water Management Plan -January
1985 under Downs Lake which states: "Ultimately, an outlet with a
100-year discharge capacity of 57 cfs is envisioned, but it is not
proposed to install this capacity at this time. Easements have been
preserved for this storage area during development and any future
development should continue to protect this capacity. Ann asked how
is this plat going to protect that capacity.
Folz responded that all the criteria set by the VBWD are being applied
here. But the ponding that is taking place in West Lakeland will
eventually pond to Downs Lake, Ann added. Folz stated that this whole
area is part of the subwatershed of the watershed. of Downs Lake so
eventually all of this water will end up in Downs Lake.
Steve DeLapp stated that according to our code ponding is mandatory
and there is no ponding in Lake Elmo. Therefore, there would have to
be a va-riance if this is approved.
Ann Bucheck stated that no matter what the City has done in the past
it does not set the precedent for what we do at the present time. Ann
felt we should uphold our code in regard to necessary ponding in Lake
Elmo. Ann added that we owe it to the people who live on Downs Lake
at the present time who are having a difficult time with water.
Tom Simpson asked, in order to comply with the rules, how large would
the pond be if it was required. Bruce Folz answered that it was so
small it would not be worthwhile --possibly 200 sq.ft.
Lee Hunt felt since ponding seems to be such an easy thing to do, it
keeps the City from having to grant a variance, which some of the
Commissioners are not in favor of, and keeps the people on Downs Lake
happy that we are enforcing the ponding requirements. Hunt stated
that he interpreted the rules that ponding is needed and he
recommends, without ponding, a variance would be needed.
Ann asked if the soils perk slowly this should be more reason to have
ponding. Hunt mentioned that we may wish to require perk tests on
both lots. Folz answered that Harry Weaver has been instructed to
take soil borings on each of these lots. Folz added that this
property was purchased because it is a gravel pit and doesn't perk
slowly.
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M/S/P Hunt/Enes - to recommend to the City Council that they approve
the Downs Lake Estates Preliminary Plat; and that exemption from
ponding requirements not be granted (Section 401.240B.3) and with
notification to the Council Code Section 305.040D that the soils
indicate they are a minimal soil with high runoff. (Motion carried
7-2<Bucheck, Johnston›).
Bucheck was against putting the house on the northside of the property
because she feels their runoff would go to the South. If the house
was placed on the southside of the property, she understands that
esthetically it would be very distasteful to put the one house in
front of the other. Ann voiced her concern of protecting the
homeowners on Downs Lake above all else.
Johnston questioned the wisdom of requiring ponding because of the
amount of area that can go into Downs Lake. It is really a part of a
lot that is not going to be used for a structure, the water that is
going to come off of this subdivision is going to be falling the
opposite direction. He favored allowing approval contingent upon the
requirement that any additional drainage would go to the South and not
be a detriment to Downs Lake. Johnston was in favor of the
preliminary plat, but felt the requirement of ponding was unnecessary
because ponding would be so minimal it wouldn't affect Downs Lake.
Rob Enes, Tom Simpson, Barb Haacke agreed with Johnston's statement,
but voted in favor of the motion.
4. Packard Park 3rd Addition Rezoning (Continued)
M/S/P Johnston/Enes - to reopen the public hearing on the rezoning
request for packard Park 3rd Addition. (Motion carried 9-0).
The Planning Commission tabled this public hearing for input from the
commission's Vice Chair, Marjorie Williams and for more residents to
provide input. (Amended 3-28-88)
There were no questions or comments from the audience.
Chairman DeLapp closed the public hearing at 8:13 p.m.
Ann Bucheck explained that when the 2nd Addition was being discussed,
people went before the VBWD and discussed the problems they were
having difficulty with water rising with Downs Lake and Eden Park
Pond. VBWD said they would do a study of all the water flow from
County Rd. 5 to Downs Lake which would be started sometime this
Spring. Ann did not feel it was advisable to rezone property at this
time because we do not know what will be happening with the water. She
has heard it stated that water from Cty Rd. 5 and intown does flow
down toward the southern part of the City and she cannot see making
that any more dense at this time.
Chairman DeLapp stated that this is a request that the Future Land Use
Map, as recommended to the City Council and approved by the
Metropolitan Council, be revised. There has to be some criteria to
revise the Comprehensive Plan especially when it was only submitted
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 4
nine months ago. For the Commission to recommend a rezoning to R1,
they would have to have a basis for saying to the Council that this
involved acreage is so unique in the City that the conditions that
surround it doesn't apply elsewhere in the city and an exemption to
the Comprehensive Plan would be appropriate and not affect other
areas. DeLapp has not come up with these unique factors at this point
for rezoning.
Marge Williams provided questions which should be raised when
proposals for zoning amendments are brought before the Planning
Commission. Marge also provided Findings of Fact based on the
Comprehensive Plan. (See Exhibit A).
After going over the check list and listening to the answers that were
provided, Ann felt this property did not need to be rezoned at this
time because it does not meet the criteria necessary for rezoning.
Chairman DeLapp emphasized from the planning book, Job of the
Planning Commissioner by Solnit, Albert, that if a rezoning is to be
done and there is a sound basis for it, it would have the effect of
making the community more desirable for everyone that lives here
(current voters not taxpayers) with one exception. That is, we fit
into the overall metropolitan, federal, stated framework which is why
we have to submit our comp plan to the Council. They have indicated
that our level of responsibility is on the order of 40-50 new houses
per year.
Marge Williams stated the area involved is bounded by some RR, R1 land
(some R1 land is larger than 1 1/2 acres). The City does have a water
problem sitting below Packard Park, and it tends to be a continuing
problem. The Commission also has an obligation to provide enough land
for adequate septic and well and upstream we have a tremendous amount
of wells and septic tanks along Lake Elmo Avenue. In order to
maintain the quality of life and quality of well water, she would be
more interested in seeing this area in RE zoning (2 1/2 - 5 acres)
than going to 1 1/2 acres because the density is much more intense and
in the future there might be some well pollution.
Barb Haacke had a concern on rezoning this area to R1 because we are
an unsewered area, and we have to watch the density that we are going
to get. She expressed some nervousness in thinking that someday Lake
Elmo may be entirely 1 1/2 acre lots with no sewer. If RE zoning
comes about, Barb felt this may be the proper place to put it becauae
of the smaller lots around that area.
Lee Hunt asked what is the time limt for someone to come back for a
rezoning request on a particular parcel of land and the answer was 6
months for the same zoning request change. If they were to come back
to request a new zone, they could come back sooner --so whenever RE
zoning is passed, they could come back then.
M/S/P Johnston/Williams - to recommend to the City Council denial of a
zoning request to rezone approximately 26 acres from RR to R1 for the
proposed Packard Park 3rd Addition based on the Finding of Facts from
the Comprehensive Plan (Exhibit A); and for the Council to note that
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 5
the VBWD has stated they will do a study on the water plan and until
that time the plan has been completed it could be detrimental to
rezone. (Motion carried 9-0).
M/S/P Bucheck/Enes - to switch Item 6 before Item 5 of the agenda
because of audience interest. (Motion carried 9-0).
5. Section 32/33 Discussion
At the charge of the Lake Elmo City Council the Planning Commission
has been working with interested section 32/33 property owners to try
to determine if the City should do anything to aid the property owners
in developing their land. Lee Hunt explained that although not the
only issue, the one that seemed to be the most critical was that the
property owners wanted city aid, perhaps in the form of Tax Increment
Financing, to assist in providing sewer and water service to the area.
Lee Hunt and Dave Johnson have studied the issue of Tax Increment
Financing (TIF) and investigated several other methods of financing.
Lee Hunt provided a DRAFT of 10 Findings. Dave was not at the meeting
so any additions he may have had to the list were not received.
Hunt said Dave felt that the risks involved were such that Lake Elmo
would be developing an infrastructure in the future that coupled with
TIF to encourge development in Section 32/33 we would be able to do
this effectively. DeLapp felt Dave said that we should not get into
TIF unless we had a development proposal before us until we hid
attornies assure us that it would be highly desirable for the City's
interest. (Amended 3-28-88)
Hunt also brought up that it appears that the legislature is unhappy
with the direction people have taken at using TIF. Williams added
that the State Planning Agency stated that they are trying to require
developers impact fees --tell them if you want to develop here you have
to pay money.
Tom Simpson stated as he understands this --the city sells bonds, gives
the money to the developer with the thought that development will pay
back the money to the City. If the development is not successful,
then the City is left "holding the bag". Therefore, it would be in
the City's best interest if this was going to be done to know how the
money is going to be spent. He felt this would be an incredibly
unwise thing to do to make an investment where you don't know anything
about the company. Tom agreed that it was out of the question unless
someone comes to them with a plan that is very strong.
Hunt added that maybe we need to take a lesson from the State
legislature, and Cities of Minnetonka and Eagan in that perhaps TIF
has not been the "horn of plenty" that people had thought it was going
to be to promote development in the State of Minnesota. But yet it is
having an opposite affect, it is hurting Counties, School Districts,
State revenues, and in the end hurting cities.
Simpson felt the question should be asked "does the City of Lake Elmo
need development so bad that we are willing to make a blind
investment?" --just how many people would give their money to someone
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 6
who says "I'm not going to tell you what I am going to do with it
because I don't know yet, but TRUST me".
Kelly Brookman spoke up and told the Commission that they did not know
what TIF is and suggested that an expert from the City's bonding
company come in and speak to them.
Rob Enes went on to explain there are two kinds of bonds: General
Obligation Bonds and Industrial Revenue Bonds.
General Obligation Bonds cannot be issued for shopping centers or for
sewer -water -streets for a shopping center. It has to be for schools,
city wells, sewer in some instances. With GOBonds it is fully backed
by the taxing power of the underlying authority.
Industrial Revenue Bonds are designed for industry and can be used for
shopping centers. These bonds do not have the full taxing
authority --it is up to the individual project. If the project goes
bad, it does not go back to the City.
M/S/P Bucheck/Hunt - to continue this discussion for ten additional
minutes. (Motion carried 9-0).
Hunt read an excerpt on TIF he received from the County "The
Legislative auditors suggested that TIF funded public improvements be
permitted only if special assessments are not feasible. In 1986 the
Tax Increment bill contained langauge limiting TIF supported public
improvements and economic development districts." There now is
legislation pending which will further restrict this usage.
Acting City Administrator Kueffner expressed her thought that the
Commission should get someone in to talk to them about TIF because she
felt they were off-track on what TIF really is and suggested that the
States Planning Agency or League of Minnesota Cities would come in
free if they were asked to, for this issue or any other that the
Planning Commission would like.
A person in the audience asked if there has been a request for Tax
Increment Financing. He further added "with all due respect to the
Commission, he felt it would be in their own interest to have a
consultant come in and explain TIF". DeLapp responded that there has
been an indirect approach --people from Section 32 asked what the City
was willing to do to help financing in that area to help develop their
land. The Commission has spent much time on this and have talked to
many experts.
Hunt responded that one problem with bringing in their own bonding
expert, which has been cautioned by all the experts, the bonding
person is trying to get the business. Lee had polled three members of
the City Council (Armstrong, Christ, Graves) to see if they would
allow the Commission to hire a consultant. These members did not feel
they should hire an independent counsel to talk to them. (He stopped
at three because he needed three votes to get this through). Quotes
received were from $400-$1000 for a talk on TIF.
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 7
DeLapp and Hunt replied that they have talked to the League of
Minnesota Cities and the county.
Mango W444..i-ame-same -4o-their-defence-w1t4 -"she-4 newe that-iF+F-ie-a
eemp-11.cated issue,-bwt-even--ahe--w to 1s -a fema3eru.mders4 ande 4IP
easenab4•y-well". Marge added that these members have done a good job
in investigating TIF and if we need to write a white paper on it --that
would be fine. (Amended 3-28-88)
Lee Hunt summed it up by stating if the City Council is not satisfied
with their investigation of TIF--then they are the ones that should
get in the experts because they have the final say as to what they
will do. The Planning Commission is only the advisory board so they
could recommend reasonable experts to talk to the Council.
Barb Haacke wanted to indicate that maybe there are some
misconceptions. She felt the Commission had the generalframework, but
if they are working on something that is way off base they would need
redirection.
Lee Hunt added that obviously people on different sides of the fence
have different opinions concerning TIF. There is a multiplicity of
opinions and the commission tends to take a conservative view.
Marge Williams recognized the great deal of work the Commission
members have done investigating TIF. In light of the fact that now
most cities are interested in the opposite of TIF, which is requiring
developer impact fees, she was in favor of making the following
motion:
M/S/P Williams/Bucheck - to report to the City Council the 10 Findings
on financing (Exhibit B) and indicate to the Council there is a
multiplicity of opinions depending where you are on this issue so they
may chose to go beyond this. (Motion carried 9-0).
M/S/P Enes/Simpson - to switch Item 7 Robert Leaf before Item 5. RE
Zoning because of the applicant being present. (Motion carried 9-0).
7. Discussion for Lot Split/Adjustment: Robert Leaf
Robert Leaf, 2945 Lake Elmo Avenue N., is asking that the city
consider allowing him to split some lake frontage so that three
propertyowners have lake frontage.
The staff has stated with the exception of Lot A, all of these lots
are substandard. If this split would be allowed, it would make the
conforming lake frontage for Parcel A and create 3 non -conforming lake
frontages. Mr. Leaf also asks for clarification as to why Parcel 0130
cannot be split into two equal buildable parcels.
City Code Section 301.090B states "If in a group of two or more
contiguous lots or parcels of land owned or controlled by the same
person, any individual lot or parcel does not meet the full width or
area requirements of this Ordinance, such individual lot or parcel
cannot be considerd as a separate parcel of land for purpose of sale
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 8
or development, but must be combined with adjacent lots or parcels
under the same ownership so that the combination of lots or parcels
will equal one or more parcels of land each meeting the full lot width
and area requirements of this Ordinance."
Also, 301.090F states "No yard or lot shall be reduced in area or
dimension so as to make it less than the minimum requirement by this
ordinance, and if the existing yard or lot is less than the minimum
required, it shall not be further reduced. No required yard or lot
currently used for a building or dwelling group shall be used to
satisfy minimum lot area requirements for any one building".
The Staff also reminded the Commission that when Mr. & Mrs. Durand
owned this property they were before the council asking that a
buildable lot be created out of Parcel 0130. The question of this
parcel being landlocked came up, as well as the question as to who
owns the supposed road easement (between the Taylor & Mazzara property
on 31st Street). As far as the staff knows, this question has not
been resolved and the property is still landlocked. As far as
creating a new buildable lot, until it has access (and the required
lot frontage which may require a variance) we cannot really address
this question.
Mr. Leaf stated that this tax forfeiture land will be going up for
auction in 1991 and he has the option of buying it. Another option he
has is to sell this land to Don Durand and not wait until 1991.
Lee Hunt suggested an easement with the adjacent landowners instead of
selling the land. He then would still "own" the land, but sold the
rights to use the land and he would still maintain the required
footage for lakeshore.
The Commission suggested to Mr. Leaf that he consider splitting the
land up and selling it to Mr. Durand as long as he maintains 1 1/2
acres for himself. He would have to keep 150' of lakeshore, and he
cannot split off tiny parcels because they would be more
non-comforming. Another option is, if a hardship could be proven, a
variance could be applied for to split up lakeshore on Parcels D,E,F.
As far as the easement off of 30th Street, he would have to check into
this further. Also, the Commission suggested they check with the DNR
if a shoreland permit is needed.
5. Residential Estates Zoning
Chairman DeLapp provided DRAFT #3 of the Residential Estates Zoning
based on concerns brought up at the Public Hearing. The Commission
received a letter, dated 2-29-88, from John Stibbe of Lawson, Raleigh
& Marshall, indicating their understanding of property (referred to in
his letter of February 22, 1988) would remain zoned as general
business and that the new zoning classification for residential
estates would only apply if the owners requested that they be rezoned
to this classification.
There was discussion about problems arising if they allowed horses on
5 acres in RE zoning. It is not consistent with our code which
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 14, 1988 PAGE 9
requires 10 acres. By consensus, it was decided to eliminate the
Special Condition of allowing two horses on five acres.
Kelly Brookman asked, "if the Commission adopts RE zoning, are you
doing away with R1 zoning?" The Commission answered loudly "No"!!
Chairman DeLapp provided drawings of what RE Zoning would look like.
He and the Mayor have been talking about 22' wide roads which would be
like the roads that goes past each of their houses. DeLapp brought up
the consideration of every 40' or 50' along the public right-of-way a
shade tree be planted. The propertyowner would then provide screening
between each building.
Steve also brought up the Size of Primary Structure: 1500 feet
(minimum) above grade is higher than other cities. The highest he has
noted was Oakdale who had 1200 feet and that was not above grade.
DeLapp indicated that RE Zoning is a floating zone and would cover
selective portions of the City. The Comprehensive Plan would have to
be amended to reflect these areas that are eligible for RE Zoning as
an alternative on the Future Land Use Map.
M/S/ Bucheck/Enes - to recommend to the City Council they adopt DRAfT
#3 Residential Zoning and they require a correction of the
Comprehensive Plan to reflect this and to show a Future Land Use Map
where the zoning might be applicable based on their peviously adopted
motion, and to permit reduction of road width to 22 feet.
Marge Williams provided information on Rural Management from the State
Planning Agency for the Commission's review.
' The Commission decided they needed to continue the discussion on RE
Zoning at the next meeting.
8. Comprehensive Plan Discussion
Chairman DeLapp provided a newspaper article from White Bear Lake for
the Commission's review. The sign ordinance will be discussed at the
next meeting.
M/S/P Bucheck/Enes - to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting at
10:40 p.m. (Motion carried 9-0).
EXHIBIT A
3,14,88
Packard Park...3rd addition
Findings of Fact:
1.Comprehensive Plan.page 21
Lake Elmo has accepted the population figures projected by the
Metropolitan Council over the next fifteen years.The land
inventory for the city indicates that there aare theoretically
already platted parcels that would provide for 447 housing
sites,22.5% more than the amount needed to meet the Metropolitan
Councils projected population growth....The combination of
homesites in R1, RR, and the Musa indicate that we a possibility
of 5 times the quantity projected through the year 2,000.
See Table A, Lake Elmo Acreage Comparison
2.Comprehensive Flan, page 20
"In rural residential zones, areas with marginal
agricultural soils, woodlands, and similar characteristics,
residential development will be permitted on ten acre lots or
at a density of four hemes per forty acres.
3. Comprehensive Plan, page 25
Lake Elmo has stated that the city intends to " Prevent the
premature subdivision of lese lands (RR) that will
increase the demand for more municipal services." The concern
here is to be aware of the absolute density in an area
plagued with water problems, and that all systems must be on
their own well and septic systems,
4. Comprehensive Plan, page 22
Lake Elmo will "(c) Require all residential developments to
conform to the limitations presented by natural features
including soils, drainage patterns, topography, woodlands and
so on."
5. The land presented for rezoning is shown as currently zoned
RR, and is indicated on the Future Land Use as RR. The soils in
the area are shown to be Area 2 soils.
City Code
301,060E "Zoning and the Comprehensive Plan.Any admendment to
this Ordinance shall amend the Comprehensive Plan in accordance
therewith. The Planning Commision shall inform the Council of
any zoning proposal which does not conform to the Comprehensive
Plan and inform the Council as to why the Plan should or should
not be admended.
Comprehensive Plan
"The County Planning Act state.s,.,'A Comprehensive Plan or plans
when adopted by ordinance shall be the basis for official
controls adopted under provisions of sections 394.21 to
394.37
The major consideration in the general validity of land use
regulation involves a balancing of the impact of regulation on
an individual against the "weight" of the legislative
objectives to be achieved. The Minnesota Supreme Court takes
the position that if a regulation is to be upheld it must
permit a reasonable remaining economic use of the land . An
aspect of this position is that the land regulated must be
suitable for the uses permitted. Lyle Czech versus the City of
Blaine (1977) Within these constraints, local government may
regulate land use (including so-called "down -zoning") without
having to compensate the landowner for alleged econmic loss."
"Growth Management for Minnesota Communities"Minnesota State
Planning Agency,1978
Considerations to think about when considering a rezoning:
1. Have there been some changes in theg community that indicate
that there is a need to rezone? Ztvrutcl (et+ 60 FAQ_
2. Have all public health and safty factors been taken into
consideration?(Water drainage problems,traffic patterns,etec.)
3. What is the future use of this parcel?
4. Have the basic growth philosophies of the city been change?
(
LAKE ELMC ,REAGE COMPARISON:
8/25/86
ACRES IN
CURRENT
COMPREHENSIVE
IVE
PLAN:
AGRICULTURAL `' 0
(AG)
RURAL RESIDENTIAL 6,730
(R-R) (Gen Rural Use)
RESIDENTIAL • 3,145
(R-1) (Residential)
HIGH DEN RESIDENTIAL
(R2, R3, R4)
BUSINESS
(GB, HB, CB)
INDUSTRIAL
(IND)
76o
ACRES IN
CURRENT
ZONING
DISTRICT
MAP:
ACTUAL
CURRENT
EKISTIN3
USAGE:
1,871 7,427
7,185 2,246
1,891 1,606
(447 units = 2.2x,
w/o Sects )2 & 33)
(1,329 units = 6.6x,
w/ sects 32 & 33)
195 7195
(Cimarron) (Cimarron)
745 216 (2.9x;
(9.9x) "w/o overlay and
Sects 32 and 33)
1,035 (13.8x;
with overlay)
509 (6.8x;
.w/ Sects 32 & 33)
340
8
ACRES NEEDED
TO MEET THE
PROPOSED
POP. FC5T.
FOR THE YEAR
2000 - 6,4o0:
0
0
i,6o6
195
(Cimarron)
ACRES IN
PROPOSED
FUTURE
LAND USE
MAP:
8,144
ACRES IN
PROPOSED
ZONING
DISTRICT
NAP:
---7 , 500
1,544 — 2,200
1,889 — 1,750
(313 units = 1.6x,
w/o Sects 32 & 33)
(1,195 units = 6.Ox,
yr/ Sects 32 & )3)
372
(Cimarron and
Sects 32 & 33)
195
216 75 203 (1.3x; -"- 225
w/o Sects 32 & )3)
390 (5.2x;
w/ Sects 32 & 33)
4
0
0 4
EXHIBIT B
3-.14-88
At the charge of the Lake Elmo City Council the Lake Elmo Planning
Commission has been working with interested section 32/33 property owners
to try to determine what, if anything, the city should do to aid the
property owners in developing their land.
Although not the only issue, the one that seemed to be the most critical
was that the property owners wanted city aid, perhaps in the form of Tax
Increment Financing, to assist in providing sewer and water service to the
area. We have studied the issue o.f Tax Increment Financing ( TIF ), and
investigated several other methods of financing and find the following ;
1. It seems that very few alternatives exist that are as
financially attractive to developers as TIF
2. TIF Allows developers access to money at lower rates than any
other financing option.
3. In almost all other States that have TIF legislation, it is
limited to redevelopment only. ( 1 paper pointed to Minn as
the only state allowing TIF for new development )
4. it is, in general, the City that assumes most of the risk in
TIF financing.
5. The length of time that a TIF district is in effect is only 7
years, this means that development must be done in a relatively
short time span, and should include the entire district. The
Lake Elmo Comprehensive Plan shows this area for future use as
commercial, but does not encourage its rapid development.
6. Many experts caution that TIF is only effective in areas that
expect to see declining tax revenues, and development would not
normally occur in that area. In this case TIF is used to
allow development to occur.
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7. In desirable areas, TIF should not be needed to encourage
development. The city of Eagan is a good example, they do not
need to use TIF to encourage development.
8. Recent bills introduced in the Minn. State Legislature are
intended to curb the use of TIF.
9. School districts do not recieve any benefit during the TIF
period.
10. Where TIF is most effective is in cities that do not have to
increase city services ( Infrastructure ) to support the
development, or that have an aggressive development plan in plac
that calls for increases in city services.
The Lake Elmo Planning Commission does not feel that we need to encourage
development in any particular area of the city through Tax Increment
Financing. Developments must be able to stand on their own financial
merits. If a development needs subsidies to be financially attractive,
maybe the development will not produce the required income to the city to
fund increases in Infrastructure and pay off the TIF bonds.
DRAFT
3-28-88
301.070D. R.E.- RESIDENTIAL ESTATES (One family residential)
A. Permitted Uses and Structures:
1) One (1) family detached dwellings
B. Accessory Uses and Structures:
1) Uses and structures which are customarily
accessory and clearly incidental and subordinate
to permitted uses and structures.
2) Garages, carports, screenhouses, conservatories,
playhouses, swimming pools, tennis courts, hobby
shops and storage buildings as allowed by code,
for private use only.
C. Zoning District Requirements:
1) Lot
size:
(a) Five (5) acre nominal (ten percent (100)
allowance for roads)) minimum per unit.
(b) Two and one-half (2-1/2) acre (108,900
square feet) minimum per unit for subdivisions
of twenty (20) acres or more.
2) Configuration:
(a) Five (5) acre lots must be able to contain a
full circle having a diameter of at least
three hundred fifty (350) feet.
(b) Two and -one-half (2-1/2) acre lots must be able
to contain a full circle having a diameter of
at least two hundred fifty (250) feet.
3) Lot
width at street/highway: 60 feet minimum
4) Building Setback from property lines:
(a)
(b)
(c)
(d)
(e)
Front:
Side (Interior)
Side (Corner)
Rear
Arterial street
80
40
80
100
100
feet
feet
feet
feet
feet
(minimum)
(minimum)
(minimum)
(minimum)
(minimum)
5) Building Height: 35 feet (minimum)
6) Size of Primary Structure: 1500 feet (minimum)
above grade
7) Parking: Two (2) enclosed spaces (minimum)
8) All lots must have at least one (1) acre of land
suitable for septic drainfields and area for two
(2) separate and distinct drainfields. Placement
of the second required drainfield between the
trenches of the first drainfield is prohibited.
9) Hardsurface Coverage:
(a) Fifteen percent (15%) miximum for up to
two and one-half (2-1/2) acres.
(b) Five percent (5%) maximum for area over
two and one-half (2-1/2) acres.
D. Special Conditions
1) A lot size of five (5) acres or more will entitle
property owner to a maximum of two accessory
structures totalling no more than 1,500 square feet.
2) A lot size of two and one half (2-1/2) acres or more
will entitle property owner to a maximum of one (1)
accessory structure with a maximum of 500 square
feet and garden shed up to 150 square feet.
3) Two and one half (2-1/2) acre lot subdivisions shall
be required to conform to an approved landscape plan
for screening buildings from adjacent property.