HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-23-88 PZMThe Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City Council.
One of the Commission's functions is to hold public hearings and make
recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes all final
decisions on these matters.
Lake Elmo Ordinances require that certain documents and
information be included in applications. The Planning Commission may
postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may for
other reasons postpone final action on an application.
For each item, the Commission will receive reports prepared by
the City Staff, open the hearing to the public, and discuss and act on the
application. If you are aware of information that hasn't been discussed,
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AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 23, 1988
7:30 p.m. MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: May 9, 1988
3. Pat Paul - Metropolitan Council, Comments on R.E.
4. Concept: Rezoning to Ag and C.U.P., Rob Linder
5. Concept: Large Lot Subdivision, Ed Whitman
6. Site & Plan Review --
Addition to Lake Elmo Elementary School
7. Questions regarding I-94 Overlay --
Gustafson & Swenson
8. One Percent Ordinance
9. Comprehensive Plan Update --
Marjorie Williams
10. Other
11. Adjourn
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES'
MAY 23, 1988
Chairman Steve DeLapp called the Planning Commission meeting to order
at 8:04 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: DeLapp, Williams
(arrived 8:10 p.m.), Hunt, Stevens, Kunde, Enes, Johnston (arrived
9:30 p.m.), and City Administrator Morrison. Absent: Bucheck,
Haacke, Simpson, Johnson.
1. Agenda
M/S/P Enes/Stevens - to approve the May 23, 1988 Planning Commission
agenda as presented. (Motion carried 6-0).
2. Minutes: May 9, 1988
M/S/P Hunt/Enes - to approve the May 9, 1988 Planning Commission
minutes as amended. (Motion carried 6-0)
3. Pat Paul - Metropolitan Council, Comments on Residential Estates
The Council has the. responsibility of planned central sewer service
for the region. They plan and provide capital funds for the Regional
Park system and plan the regional airport system and the transit *at the
system. In the City of Lake Elmo there is a small Metropolitan Urban corner
Service Area which is*694 and 94 with the remainder of he City in the of
rural service area. P t f the Council's job is tc�ar ethe orderly
�nf tr e
and economic developmentiAregio4,not only provide sewer service in a
given area, butnprevent' urban sprawl by limiting premature services.
There are two levels of development that the Met Council supports in
the rural area.
1. In Prime Agricultural Land - 1 housing unit per 40 acres.
2. 4 housing units per 40 acres overall density (the Council does not
define any specific lot size which was adopted in Sept. 1986)
Inside the MUSA line the Metropolitan Council has veto power over
local decisions that may be in conflict with the goals of the Metro
Council. Outside of the MUSA line thae Council has an advisory role
and is willing to share its knowledgeAto why it would or would not
favor certain land use changes.
One of the ma or concerns of the Council is the premature extension of
sewers to-ha-141•y dense rural development. Another is- the interest in
local urban services when you do have fairly dense rural development.
In regard to RE zoning, Pat explained that it was standard to require
one suitable acre for an on -site system on a 2 1/2 acre lot. The
Council does not have any concern on lot size, but would have a
concern on development in an area where there is a potential of bad
soils for sewer.
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that
The Metropolitan Council's philosophy isAthey will plan the orderly
extension of urban services, but if the community doesn't want
them --they will not be forced on them. It really is a decision of the
local government. If you wanted to serve the entire City with sewer,
they would have a definite concernif done without staged growth.
The Council would not oppose a small scale commercial development
which could operate on a typical on -site system for a housing
development at the interchanges. They do not support package
treatment systems. The Council has talked about re-examining whether
or not it would be reasonable to allow highway related businesses to
go in on interchanges. They would not force a local government to do
it. The Council would not support things that are not orderly
contiguous compact extension of the urban service area. If Lake Elmo
chose to allow strip development, small scale on individual on -site
systems, there is nothing the Met Council could do to stop the
City --but they would not encourage it. The Council would definitely
oppose a plan of sewering strip development along I-94. Their basic
position is that sewers will be extended in an orderly fashion with
the extension being compact, contiguous land.
Marge Williams asked about the high vacancy rate in townhouses. Pat
responded that townhouses are "slow" to move and are overbuilt in a
number of areas. The Met Council does not support any particular kind
of housing. The Council felt when federal funding was available-t-1.y
fart that communities should take advantage of it and make an
afffrmatrve effort to provide that housing. With the drying up of
federal funds, the Council encourages communities to do what they can.
It is sort of a community initiated effort by looking at the needs of
your own residents and see what the opportunities are.
Marge Williams stated the fact that we have maintained our rail4€igs
as long as we have, due to a combination of support from the Metro
Council, City Council and PZ members and a real solution of how
development should proceed. Marge has been appreciative of the Met
Council support of the City's position over the last few years.
4. Concept: Rezoning to Ag and C.U.P.--Rob Linder
Rob Linder, Linder's Greenhouses Inc., is proposing construction of a
greenhouse on the NE corner of their 64 acre tract off of 15th Street
to commence July through September and site and soil preparation to
commence in June. Mr. Linder's sister has a residence on the property
at the present time.
The greenhouse structure will be double polyethylene truss.s-triet'acc.
The area covered will be 29,000 sq.ft. Production area will be a 7250
sq.ft. steel pole building. There will be trees planted along 15th
St. and along the western property line to provide both a visualsAaRana
wind break. Linder added that the intent is not to have retail sales;
however, at some point a lot will be opened that will deal with
landscapers which would be a wholesale type distribution.
Mr. Linder explained that Linder's Greenhouses is a third generation
family business and they produce bedding plants, poinsettias, Easter
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lilies and other flowering and green plants for the wholesale and the
retail market.
Linder pointed out that greenhouses are businesosthat have a very
low impact on the communities in which they exist. They are not air,
noise, or visual polluters. They do act as air purifiers in urban
areas by removing carbon dioxide and other pollutants from the air and
returning clean air to the environment.
Greenhouses are special use structures that do not meet the full
building requirements and are not considered buildings in the Building
Code. It is not a structure in terms of the way it is taxed, snow
removal requirements that it has to meet, durability, and is
considered a temporary structure. They do have water runoff and they
would have settling ponds to meet this runoff. Linder stated there
will be additional requests over the next ten years for more
greenhouse space and possible expansion of the production facility.
The Commission advised the applican�ewould need to return for approval
if expanded.
The Commission felt the concept was fine but had Questions on the
potential size and what restrictions would a greenhouse come under for
a building permit for the structure. They also had concerns on the
impact of lights and traffic. The City Administrator will meet with
the applicant to discuss these questions the Commission had brought
up
M/S/P Williams/Hunt - to request the City Administrator meet with the
applicant to discuss the Commission's questions and to set up a public
hearing as determined by the City Administrator based on the Planning
Commission's calendar. (Motion carried 6-0).
5. Concept: Large Lot Subdivision --Ed Whitman
Mr. Ed Whitman has an application for a concept review of a large lot
subdivision by the Planning Commission, but he was not present at the
meeting. A public hearing is scheduled for this application on
Monday. June 13th at 7:30 p.m.
6. Site & Plan Review --Addition to Lake Elmo Elementary School
Paul Snyder. representing Armstrong, Torseth. Skold & Rydeen
Architect, and Nancy Prince, Lake Elmo Elementary School Librarian,
presented a site plan for an addition of a media center (1460 sg.ft.)
to the Lake Elmo School library. The present library space will be
remodeled to provide a space for storytelling, a computer lab and
studying space for students,with proper lighting and seating.
Mr. Snyder explained the way the sprinkler code reads any addition
going onto a building will require the existina building to be equipped with
sprinkler's. There is an exception for additions of a minor nature.
The Building Official felt this add weire would qualify as a "minor"
addition. If the existing building -was- required to be ri-nleled they
would not get the addition because of the cost. ecutppe with
sprinklers,
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for handling
City Engineer Bohrer had three different options tit runorf-ccxtld--be-
lrancl-l-ed from the roof: (1) connect the new roof drain in the new area
back to the existing two roof drains which would be picked up by the
storm sewer thh�aatt� drains onto the drainage ditch on the north side and
that in turn ja %�t�o ta holding pond. The pond, pipe and ditch
capacity wa goor andle this. An amendment would be required to
the agreement between the City and Brookman Dev. (2) move the dry
wells away from the addition and have the runoff from the new roof
area drain across the courtyard into the dry wells; (3) leave the
dry wells to handle the majority of the runoff and provide an overflow
of about 1 foot below grade.
M/S/P Williams/Stevens - to submit a plan and amendment to the
drainage agreement to the City Administrator for review and add this
item to the June 13th Planning Commission agenda for their
recommendation to the Council. (Motion carried 7-0).
7. Questions regarding 1-94 Overlay --Gustafson & Swenson
Mr. Swenson ancA ralhst son ]nave purchased 14 acres along I-94 zoned
copGeneral Business. A Mr. wensoi as not given a copy of the I-94
Overlay Ordinance when he contacted the City before they purchased
this property. They just heard about the newly adopted sprinkler
ordinance. Mr. Swenson stated this was the worst overlay ordinance as
to sewage requirements he has ever seen in his 43 years of
development. He also felt it was unreasonable to require sprinkling
when there is not a City water system.
Chairman DeLapp suggested that Mr. Swenson put in writing the problems
he is facing and what he is trying to do and how this would benefit
the City of Lake Elmo. This should show the Commission if there is a
need to change the ordinances we have.
8. One Percent Ordinance
The Lake Elmo City Council reviewed the proposed "1% Rule" Ordinance
on May 3, 1988. Although technically correct, the Council felt the
wording was confusing, especially dealing with probability of rainfall
occurrences. The Council instructed the City Engineer to revise the
ordinance to make it more understandable and to refer the ordinance to
the Planning Commission for their review.
Lee Hunt stated that this ordinance has to be clear in order to be
defensible in court so he would have to go along with the expert, City
Engineer Bohrer, that this is the ordinance we need and would be
defensible.
M/S/P Enes/Hunt - to delete the existing 1% Resolution and replace it
with the Stormwater Runoff Control Ordinance which accompanied the
Planning Commisson's May 20, 1988 letter from Larry Bohrer. (Motion
carried 7-0).
9. Comprehensive Plan Update --Marjorie Williams
Marge Williams will hand out a copy of the draft Comprehensive Plan at
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the June 13th Planning Commission meeting. This will be scheduled as
the first item on the next agenda.
10. Residential Estates
Chairman DeLapp referred to the Residential Estates map where he
proposed a change for two areas from 5 acres to 2 1/2 acres. (See
attached map EXHIBIT A). Other ordinances the Commission will be
addressing that can support the RE Zoning are the size of the streets,
length of cul-de-sacs and partial filling in wetlands.
M/S/P Hunt/Enes - to change two areas from 5 acres to 2 1/2 acres in
Residential Estates Zoning map for land outside of CUP 9 in the R1
area of Section 25 because one area is directly adjacent to R1 Zoning
without a road separation and the other area is totally divorced from
the rest of the contiguous 5 acre area that is next to the school.
(Motion carried 6-1<Williams>).
Marge Williams was against putting this area into the 2 1/2 acre
floating zone. The change does not take into consideration the huge
ponding area that is there and there is also a CUP for E&H
Earthmovers. She would be against putting these areas into a 5 acre
floating zone because it happens to be one of the few wooded areas and
there is a farm that exists on that property already adjacent to
Tartan Park. Marge felt this was a logical place for someone to buy a
farm as a hobby farm which is still existing even if it is only 5
acres. She did not want to see the price increased two -fold because
it was just put into a floating zone.
Chairman DeLapp proposed a landscaping plan that would have a required
percentage .of understory consisting of low shrubs, (honeysuckle or
dogwood�� Sled a certain percentage of upper story, of a tree canopy.
This could be done by a mandatoray convenant or be a part of the
actual RE ordinance.
Marge Williams felt if a developer came in and wanted to put in a
large development the City could require a developer's agreement which
would require a landscaping plan. According to State Statutes, Marge
stated it was required for all building plans to have a landscape plan
submitted. Therefore, we can be as restrictive or as liberal as we
want to be. The Building Inspector would check if they are in
compliance after a certain amount of time. If they don't comply, the
City will have someone come in and plant the trees and assess the
property owner.
M/S/P Enes/Williams - to approve landscape provisions in RE Zoning in
relation to the 2 1/2 acre zoning would be a minimum of 40% tree
canopy at maturity with 30% understory; and, for the 5 acre zoning, a
minimum of 10% tree canopy at maturity and 10% understory; landscaping
plans shall be submitted with the site and building plan. (Motion
carried 6-1<Johnston: He felt the landscape plan was going overboard,
was too restrictive and thought it was a mistake›).
Lee Hunt explained that the Commission was offering an option to
follow --they were not taking away anything. Marge Williams felt this
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was upgrading the property with increased value. The ordinance will
enhance the property both for the property owner and the neighbor and
for the City. She did not want to be restrictive on the 5 acre zoning
because she would like to see this zoning sell.
M/S/P Enes/Hunt - to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting at 11:10
p.m. (Motion carried 7-0).
REVISED DRAFT
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301.070D.(3) R.E.-RESIDENTIAL ESTATES (One Family Residential)
A. Permitted Uses and Structures:
1) One (1) family detached dwellings
B. Accessory Uses and Structures:
1) Uses and structures which are customarily accessory
and clearly incidental and subordinate to permitted
uses and structures, as set forth in Section 301.130.
2) Garages, carports, screenhouses, conservatories,
playhouses, swimming pools, tennis courts, hobby
shops and storage buildings as allowed by code,
for private use only.
C. Zoning District Requirements:
1) Lot size:
(a) Five (5) acre nominal (ten percent (10%)
allowance for roads) minimum per unit.
(b) Two and one-half (2-1/2) acre (108,900
square feet) minimum per unit for subdivisions
of twenty (20) acres or more.
2) Configuration:
(a) Five (5) acre lots must be able to contain a
full circle having a diameter of at least
three hundred fifty (350) feet.
(b) Two and one-half (2-1/2) acre lots must be able
to contain a full circle having a diameter of
at least two hundred fifty (250) feet.
3) Lot width at street/highway: 300 feet
Exceptions:
(a) For 2-1/2 acre subdivisions, of at least 20 acres,
minimum street width shall be 60 feet.
(b) For 5 acre subdivisions, of at least 40 acres,
minimum street width shall be 60 feet.
4) Building Setback from property lines:
(a) Front: 80 feet (minimum)
(b) Side (Interior) 40 feet (minimum)
(c) Side (Corner) 80 feet (minimum)
(d) Rear 100 feet (minimum)
(e) Arterial Street 100 feet (minimum)
5) Building Height: 35 feet (maximum)
6) Area of Primary Structure: 1500 sq.ft. (minimum)
above grade
7) Parking: Two (2) enclosed spaces (minimum)
8) All lots must have at least one (1) acre of land
suitable for septic drainfields and area for two
(2) separate and distinct drainfield. Placement of
the second required drainfield between the trenches
of the first drainfield is prohibited.
9) Hardsurface Coverage:
(a) Fifteen percent (15%) maximum for up to
two and one-half (2-1/2) acres.
(b) Five percent (5%) maximum for area over
two and one-half (2-1/2) acres.
D. Special Conditions:
1) A lot size of five (5) nominal acres or more will
entitle property owner to a maximum of two accessory
structures totalling no more than 1,500 square feet.
2) A lot size of two and one-half (2-1/2) acres or more
will entitle property owner to a maximum of one (1)
accessory structure with a maximum of 500 square feet
and garden shed up to 150 square feet.
3) Within the RE 5 acre parcels, a maximum of 2 horses,
is allowed except where the parcel abuts existing
R-1 land, in which case no horses will be allowed.
4) Permit 22 foot wide paved driving surfaces for 2 1/2
acre subdivisions, and 22 foot wide gravel driving
surfaces for 5 acre subdivisions, with the stipulation
that roads must be designed with a serpentine layout
and suitable adjacent landscaping to promote slow
driving speeds and a rural residential character.
5) Landscape provision in the 2 1/2 acre zoning would be
a minimum of 40% tree canopy at maturity with 30%
understory; and, for the 5 acre zoning, a minimum of
10% tree canopy at maturity and 10% understory;
landscaping plans shall be submitted with the site and
building plan.
6) Newly developed property must adopt covenants at least
as restrictive as in adjacent subdivisions.
AMENDMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
RESIDENTIAL ESTATES TYPE 1 & 11 DRAFT 5-23-88
A. GOALS:
1. Maintain the city's low density growth and preserve the rural
atmosphere by encouraging residential development on lands
other than prime agricultural land and by encouraging residential
development in areas generally unsuitable for agricultural uses.
2. Keep the need for public expenditures at a low level consistent
with the public facility and service needs generated by
development trends by:
a) retaining low density, single family housing development
rather than permitting high density, multiple family housing:
b) focusing on low density residential development in order to
maintain a low level of public service costs for streets,
fire and police protection.
3. The intent of this section outlining Residential Estates Zoning
as a floating zone is not meant to discourage the continuation
of existing agricultural uses on parcels of 40 or more acres
within the rural estates area and consider zoning for
agricultural preserves where appropriate and requested.
4. Practice sound planning principles that will eliminate the
need to install central sewer and public water services.
B. POLICIES:
1. Limit residential density to one dwelling unit per:
a) two and one half (2.5) acres for type I;
b) five (5) acres for type II.
2. Since lot size alone does not determine a parcel's
suitabiity for on -site sewage treatment system, (such
suitability depending upon soil types, depth to water
table and bedrock, slope and other physical features)
requires some lots to be larger when physical conditions
warrant.
3. Permit no commercial uses in the Rural Estates area.
4. Require a building permit for construction of a residence
in order to assure compliance with all zoning regulations
and maximum preservation of the natural environment.
5. Establish a minimum lot size of two and one half acres
with a minimum buildable area of one acre. Buildable
area shall be defined as land having a slope of 13% or less
and enough soils suitable for the installation of two
on -site sewage disposal systems.
6. Require 300 feet of frontage on a city street for all lots
except those in platted subdivisions in order to:
a) Provide adequate separation of houses to preserve the
rural atmosphere;
b) reduce the need for setback variances by providing an
adequate lot width;
c) provide adequate separation of and limit the number of
driveways onto collector streets in rural areas to
ensure safe access and traffic flow;
d) eliminate long and narrow lots that are difficult to
develop and subdivide.
7. Require each applicant for a building to demonstrate that
there is sufficient area to construct a house, all allowable
accessory structures and two septic system drainfields within
the buildable area of the lot.
8. Enforce all regulations developed to protect the natural
environment.
9. Require landowners to install and maintain driveways to such
a standard that emergency vehicles will have ready access to all
buildings.
10. Prohibit clear cutting of woodlands. When clearing a wooded
site for construction of a home and accessory structures, no
more than the minimum number of trees shall be cut.
11. In areas where agricultural and non-agricultural uses interface,
the non-agricultural developer is to be responsible for any
desired screening or fencing that does not interfere with the
agricultural use.
12. Prohibit land uses inconsistent with a rural lifestyle in the
RE area which might place an excessive demand on city services.
13. Permit rezoning of agricultural land to rural estates only for
those parcels as indicated on the floating zoning map.
14. Allow existing buildable substandard parcels to be developed
under the regulations of the rural estates:
a) type I. Parcels of less than 20 acres may be subdivided at
a ratio of 3 lots for 10 acres;
b) type II. Parcels of less than 40 acres and greater than 20
acres may be subdivided at a ratio of 2 lots for 10 acres;
15. Confine nuisance restriction for noise, animals, odors and so
forth to those requisite to the health, safety and welfare of
the public and which do not inhibit normal practices and
operations.