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LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 28, 1988
Chairman DeLapp called the Planning Commission meeting to order at
7:30 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Present: DeLapp, Stevens,
Hunt, Enes, Kunde, Haacke, Bucheck, Johnson, Williams (arrived 7:53
p.m.), Johnston (arrived 8:25 p.m.) and City Administrator Morrison.
1. Agenda
M/S/P Hunt/Enes - to approve the November 28, 1988 Planning Commission
agenda as presented. (Motion carried 8-0).
2. Minutes: November 14, 1988
M/S/P Stevens/Enes - to approve the November 14, 1988 Planning
Commission minutes as amended. (See Item #3. Apostolic Church)
3. REZONING: Apostolic Church --RR to PF (Continued from 11/14)
Jeffrey Roos, of the Apostolic Bible Church, requested in his letter a
continuance of their rezoning application until the first regular
commission meeting in January, 1989. In talking to City Administrator
Morrison, Mr. Roos stated, based on discussion with the Commission,
they were rethinking their application for rezoning of a smaller area
(10 acres) which would be sufficient for a church and parking lot.
Ed Stevens felt it would be very difficult for a future PZ and CC to
say "we only let you in under these conditions, and we wouldn't rezone
another 5 or 10 acres." Practically speaking, after they have been
here a few years and owned that land, the discussion that lead to this
restriction will be forgotten. As long as they own this land there is
a possibility that it will be ultimately utilized for the church.
Ed asked if they could show the applicants where the City will allow a
church. Administrator Morrison responded the City does not currently
indicate PF Zoning on the Land Use Plan map. Morrison suggested this
zoning could be incorporated on the Future Land Use Map. In order for
the Staff to receive input on applications, Chairman DeLapp suggested
that each Commission member be asked questions on how they personally
feel about the application.
households
Chairman DeLapp reported he called David Wortman and E. Claussen whose A
had signed statements indicating they had no objections to a church.
Mr. Wortman did not know what he was zoned and was not aware of what
his wife signed, as he was out of town. When told he was under RR
Zoning, 1 house per 10 acres, with its current land use being oov&,agriculturc1
Wortman stated, under no circumstances did he want a church and would
write a letter stating his position.
DeLapp also talked to E. Claussen,
statement, because she was shown a
the church was built toward Inwood
thinking in terms of parking lots.
who personally signed the
sketch of the church and asked, if
, would this bother her. She was not
When Steve indicated it was zoned
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 28, 1988
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for housing, 1 house per 10 acres, she felt this was much better and
would send a letter wth her comments.
M/S/P Enes/Williams - at the request of Mr. Roos, the Apostolic Bible
Church's rezoning application will be tabled until the first regular
Planning Commission meeting in January of 1989. (Motion carried 9-0).
4. Comprehensive Plan
Since the draft of the Comprehensive Plan was typed by Marge on her
IBM Compatible PC, the office cannot automatically copy her disk on
the City's Apple computer. Lee Hunt and Todd Williams are transferring
this document from the IBM Compatible, to a Macintosh and then to the
City's Apple II.
Marge recommended funds be spent for charts and graphs for the Comp
Plan update. Chairman DeLapp suggested the Commission ask for
authorization for Wash. Cty. Planning Dept. to update the map with
every platted lot shown based on records from the City and MnDot.
5. Construction Requirements/Standards Form
Rob Enes updated the Commission on the forms he is drafting for all
zoning districts in the City listing their standards on items such as
accessory bldgs, setbacks, lighting. A separate form will be available
for remodeling projects, additions and decks. Inspections, inspectors
names and telephone numbers will also be added.
Ann Bucheck stated people are not aware the City requires building
permits for additions, decks or remodeling projects. -Arras-gave- ( mended)
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The Commission suggested the Newsletter inform homeowners that
building permits are needed for any type of construction and,
according to our code if permits are not putted,--they-wtrr to
doubled -fee. obtained, the fee will be doubled.
6. 1988 Planning Commission Work Plan
The following comments reflect the Commission's discussion on each
work plan item:
(1) Review, comment and make recommendations to the City Council on
zoning and subdivision applications.
The Commission added the applications should be reviewed in
accordance to the Comprehensive Plan. A checklist would be helpful.
(2) Complete the revision of the Comprehensive Plan.
The Commission suggested the ordinances need to be updated to
comply with the Comprehensive Plan.
IrAmended 12-12-S8
Ann and Steve cited examples of construction projects built without
necessary building permits.
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(3) Adopt an ordinance to incorporatethe "one percent rule" for
drainage and ponding requirements.
The Commission appreciated the work Mary Kueffner did in composing
the "One Percent Rule" ordinance as approved by the City Council.
(DELETED)
(4) Section 32-33 Discussion (DELETED, but the Commission would be
willing to discuss it.)
(5) Consider local response to State of MN proposed revision to
Shoreland Management regulations. when they come out
Administrator Morrison stated new shoreland regulations.a-one
willprobablybe stricter than the City's rules. The City will review the
new regulations when appropriate and will get input from the PZ if
they wish to review. Set up a sub -committee to determine which
properties are affected by the shoreland ordinance; compose a list of
affected property owners for all lakes.
(6) Large Lot Subdivision
The Commission incorporated this item into the RE Zoning District.
(7) Regional Park (DELETED)
(potential landfill site & bike access from City).
M/S/P Bucheck/Johnson - to ask the Parks Commission to look into a
future bike access path into the Regional Park from Klondike
(cul-de-sac). (Motion carried 9-0).
(8) Restrictions (stronger) for accessory structures in the R1
Zone --the size and number of parcels ofless than five acres.
Definition of garage and storage accessory structures. Size and
number of accessory structures in RR Zone on parcels of twenty acres
or more.
(9) Conditions or possible restrictions on residential subdivisions
where large accessory structures exist.
(10) Meet with the County and adjacent comunity planners to discuss
common issues.
The Commission decided this would be done on an "as -needed"
basis.
(11) Index for Code Books (DELETED)
Administrator Morrison stated, it is hoped, codification of our
code can be accomplished with the 1990 Budget.
(12) Future Road Plan
This item will be left on because the Commission had to address
the few areas that are landlocked or have poor entrances and exists,
and how engineering costs can be passed back to the developers.
(13) Watershed 509 Plan and compatibility with local code. (DELETED)
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(14) Soil loss limits - study model ordinances (DELETED) This item
has been addressed by City Engineer Bohrer and Maintenance Foreman
Olinger.
(15) Retention of wildlife habitat and wetland areas --adequacy of
wetland overlay district.
(16) Study the need for an historic Building/Architectural Design
Overlay District in the Old Village Area.
M/S/P Williams/Haacke - recommended to the City Council a committee be
established, composed of PZ members, business owners and interested
residents (5 to 7 members), to study an Historic
Building/Architectural Design Overlay District (-may include,_ but xnot
limited to, sighdge', main street'restorations,--lighting,- architectural
building standards) in the 0ld Village area. (Motion carried 9-0).
(17) Adopt an ordinance to incorporate a Pipeline Safety Zone in
City's subdivision and platting regualtions.
A Utility Setback will be discussed to include power lines and
changing buidling setback to 100' from a pipline rather than 50' of a
pipeline.
(18) Sign/Billboard Ordinance.
The Commission, with input from the Business Association, will
address signs on I-94 and Hwy 5.
(19) Discuss possible zoning forms in the MUSA
The Commission felt the concept plan has been developed for
Section 32, but are there alternatives. (This item was lowered in
priority.)
(20) Review aesthetics of road design. (This item will be included in
RE Zoning.)
(21) Review sideyard setbacks relative to lot size.
coverage
(22) Rework maximum allowable lot rtltns-ity and square footage for
commercial and residential areas. (DELETED)
(23) Building height limitation --Eliminate the exception which allowed
broadcast transmission towers. (This item will be moved up in
priority.)
(24) Amend the Subdivision Ordinance (Section 401) regarding the
length of cul-de-sacs and the definition of permanent and temporary
cul-de-sacs within subdivisions and outside subdivisions. (DELETED
because item will be addressed under RE Zoning).
(25) Amend the Subdivision Ordinance (Section 400-14, 400-15)
requesting the signatures on the Certificate for approval by the
Chairman and Secretary of the Planning Commission.
The Subdivision Ordinance needs correction.
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(26) Code Enforcement Policy and Problems. (DELETED The Commission
felt the City Council should address this.)
(27) Residential Estate Zoning. (This item was moved up in priority).
New Work Item:
Consider creation of a, volunteer, City Forester Position: set up a
Foreststation policy in regard to RE Zoning. Consider transportation
allowance for Forester. Would have to work closely with the Parks and
Maintenance Dept. The staff will look into the need, when and if
appropriate, and make a recommendation to the City Council if
determined necessary.
M/S/P Williams/.Enes - based on the above discussion, the 1989 Work
Plan items will be prioritized at the next PZ meeting. (Motion
carried 9-0).
7. City Administrator Morrison updated the Commission on planning
issues.
An RE meeting is scheduled for next week with City Engineer Bohrer,
Planner Mike Black and staff. A copy of the RE Ordinance will be sent
to the PZ when it is sent to the City Council.
M/S/P Enes/rIunt - to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting at 9:45
p.m. (Motion carried 9-0).
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CITY OF
LAKE
ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
777-5510
3800 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elnio, Minnesota 55042
January 20, 1989
TO: Planning Commission
FROM: Pat Morrison, City Administrator
RE; Deletion of Sentence in 11/28/88 Planning Commission Minutes
As you may recall, at the January 9, 1989 P.C. Meeting, member Bucheck
stated the intention of the Planning Commission's motion to amend the
November 28th minutes was by removing the second sentence of the second
paragraph of No. 5, rather than deleting in our usual manner by crossing
out the sentence.
I have contacted the City Attorney to determine the legality of removing
verbage from the minutes. He advises strongly against this practice and
advised the staff should continue to amend minutes by lineing out, rather
than erasing.
The Planning Commission is an advisory body to the City Council.
Jne of the Commission's functions is to hold public hearings and make
'recommendations to the City Council. The City Council makes all final
decisions on these matters.
Lake Elmo Ordinances require that certain documents and
information be included in applications. The Planning Commission may
postpone consideration of an application that is incomplete and may for
Dther reasons postpone final action on an application.
For each item, the Commission will receive reports prepared by
the City Staff, open the hearing to the public, and discuss and act on the
application. If you are aware of information that hasn't been discussed,
please fill out a "Request to Appear Before the Planning Commission" slip;
Dr, if you came late, raise your hand to be recognized. Comments that are
?ertinent are appreciated.
AGENDA
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 28, 1988
7:30 p.m. MEETING CONVENES
1. Agenda
2. Minutes: November 14, 1988
3. REZONING: Apostolic Church --RR to PF
(Continued from 11/14)
4. Comprehensive Plan
5. Construction Requirements/Standards Form
Rob Enes
6. 1989 Work Plan
7. Administrator's Report
8. Adjourn