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CITY Of
LAKE
ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
3800 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Mi
Meeting Notice
777-5510
The Lake Elmo Planning Commission will meet Monday, June 8, 1998 at
7:00 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3800 Laverne Avenue North,
Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
AGENDA
1. Agenda
2. Minutes April 27, 1998
3. PUBLIC HEARING:
Case No. ZAM/98-10
Rezone from (RR) Rural Residential to (OP) Open Space Zoning.
William Zintl, applicant.
Property Location: The West Half of the West Half of the Northeast Quarter of
Section 12. Located on 50th Street, just West of "The Fields"
4. PUBLIC HEARING:
Case No. OPC/98-11
Open Space Concept Plan for the development of an 18-single family residential lot
subdivision on approximately 40.1 acres of land, along with the preservation of
approximately 19.3 acres.
William Zintl, applicant.
Property Location: The West Half of the West Half of the Northeast Quarter of
Section 12. Located on 50th Street, just West of "The Fields"
5. Other
6. Adjourn
*Planning Commissioners are reminded to bring their Municipal Codebooks
and Comprehensive Plan to all meetings.
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City of Lake Elmo
Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes
Monday, June 8,1998
APPROVED
Chairman Armstrong called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3800
Laverne Avenue North, Lake Elmo, Minnesota. Present: Commissioners Brass, Carlson, Gracyyk,
Helwig, Herber, Mandel, Monette, and Sessing. Also present: Councilor Johnston and City
Administrator Kueffner.
1. AGENDA
Add Fencing Ordinance discussion, item 5.a
M/S/P Helwig/Mandel — to approve the agenda, as amended.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
2. MINUTES
M/S/P Helwig/Sessing — to accept the meeting minutes from April 27,1998, as presented.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Case No. ZAM/98-10 Rezone from (RR) Rural Residential to (OP)
Open Space. William Zintl, applicant. Property location: The West Half of the West Half
of the Northeast Quarter of Section 12. Located on 50th Street, just West of "The Fields".
Chairman Armstrong explained that typically, the Planning Commission heard the concept plan before the
rezone case. It was agreeable to do so.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: Case No. OPC/98-11 Open Space Concept Plan for the development
of an 18-single family residential lot subdivision on approximately 40.1 acres of land, along
with the preservation of approximately 19.3 acres. Applicant: William Zintl. Property
location: The West Half of the Northeast Quarter of Section 12. Located on 50th Street, just
West of "The Fields".
City Administrator Kueffner reviewed the staff report, noting she feels it is imperative to follow the
format set forth in the City Code when reviewing any and all applications. She stated that the staff report
reflected verbatim excerpts from the City Code as it relates to Concept Plans in the OP zoning district.
She then reviewed the submittal requirements. Said that upon staff review, recommends the Planning
Commission recommend approval of this concept plan, based on the following findings:
a) The Concept Plan is consistent with the goals, objectives and policies of the Comprehensive
Plan.
b) The Concept Plan is consistent with the purpose of the Open Space Preservation District.
c) The Concept Plan complies with the development standards.
c) The Concept Plan preserves the required open space.
She also recommended that the Planning Commission members contact the applicant to arrange a time for
an on -site visit.
City of Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 8,1998 page 2
Mr. Tim Freeman
Folz, Freeman & Dupay
(Representing Mr. Zintl)
Mr. Freeman presented the concept plan, which detailed the location of the wetlands, trails, road,
entrance, outlots, ballfield, tennis court, and open space. Said the development would be "open" to
builders and expected the price range would be in the $250's.
Chairman Armstrong invited questions and comments from the Planning Commission members. He read
a memo from Commissioner Berg (attached). Commissioner Carlson noted a 1/10 of an acre error in the
calculations for density. Mr. Freeman said that this was most likely a "rounding" error and could easily
be corrected by adjusting the size of a lot. Discussion continued.
Chairman Armstrong opened the PH for comments at 7:50 PM.
Pete Schiltgen
Resident
Feels this development is an infringement on the neighbors. Said the Planning Commission is not always
careful to consider how the neighbors are affected.
LeRoy Rossow
11050 50th Street
Wanted to know how much it would cost him if 50m Street were improved
City Administrator Kueffner explained the MSA procedure and said escrow dollars were set aside up
front by the developer to cover this expense.
George Krueger
11491 50th Street
Adjacent landowner since 1998. Talked to Mr. Zintl when he purchased the land, and was told he
intended to build a house and raise horses, not develop. Submitted a petition signed by other residents
(attached). Submitted a self -drawn map detailing his opinion of high water areas (attached). Unhappy
about the entrance to the development being 75 feet from his bedroom window, concerned that the lights
from vehicles entering and leaving will be annoying. Concerned that children from this development will
enter his property, wants the developer to install a fence. Thinks the traffic generated from the 18
proposed homes will be a detriment
Reid Gilbertson
11421 50th Street
Is in direct opposition to this plan. Does not agree with the future land use designation. Said 90-95% of
the affected property owners are opposed to this development. Said he feels this development will destroy
the neighborhood. Concerned that the run-offfrom this development is not a positive situation.
Neil Krueger
4452 Lake Elmo Avenue
Disagrees with the rezoning. Feels this plan does not fit the ordinance. Thinks the property is better
suited for farming. Feels the proposed recreational facilities within the development no longer represents
the rural area.
City of Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 8, 1998 page 3
Bob Engstrom
Feels this development is maximum intrusion. Not a neighborly plan, an unfriendly plan. Visually
destroys the viewshed, wonders what the storm water plan will be.
A letter from L. Drevlow (attached) was entered into the official record.
Chairman Armstrong closed the comment portion of the PH at 8:15 PM.
Mr. Freeman made the following comments to the concerns raised:
Said he would not comment on the personal opinions presented. Said the concept plan follows
the rules and regulations of the code. Said Mr. Zintl's change in land use is the only legal use allowed,
based on the comprehensive plan. Said the water quality issue is analyzed by the VBWD in a
comprehensive a detailed manner and all water leaving the site is monitored. Stated this plan meets the
general intent of the ordinance and meets all the requirements of the current code.
The Planning Commissioners discussed their concerns which were:
Can't the developer reduce the amount of lots proposed; no village green; not a hamlet; no
development until 50th Street is improved; trail system does not service the neighborhood; do not care for
the flaglots.
M/S/F Carlson/Armstrong — to recommend approval of Case No. OPC/98-10 an Open Space
Development Concept Plan for an 18-single family residential lot subdivision on approximately 40.1
acres of land, along with the preservation of approximately 19.3 acres of open space. William Zintl,
applicant, property located on 506 Street, just west of "The Fields of St. Croix", to include all
comments by the City Engineer and upon clarification of the size of the village green.
(Motion Failed 3-5-1). For: Carlson, Armstrong, Graczyk. Opposed: Monette, Helwig, Mandel,
Sessing, Herber. Abstain : Brass.
City Administrator Kueffner brought the rezone case back to the Planning Commission members. Said
months ago, City staff had been directed by Council to rezone per the future land use map, which is
consistent with the comprehensive plan.
Chairman Armstrong opened the PH for comments at 9:10 PM.
Reid Gilbertson
11421 501h Street
Said he had no prior knowledge that this parcel of property was zoned for OP. Said he was never notified
of the future land use designation.
City Administrator Kueffner said she would follow-up on this, and see if there had been a direct mailing.
She reminded the audience that the city makes every effort to notify residents of meetings, via the legal
newspaper and meeting notices posted on cable and in the City office.
Brian Little
Resident
Said he was never notified of the change in future land use. Said he was angry that residents were never
notified of the OP requirements. Had no idea this property was designated as OP.
Chairman Armstrong closed the comment portion of the PH at 9:20 PM.
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City of Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 8, 1998 page 4
M/S/F Helwig/Mandel — to recommend denial of Case No. ZAM/98-11, A Rezone from (RR) to (OP)
Open Space Zoning district. William Zintl, applicant and property located on 50fh Street, just West
of "The Fields".
(Motion Failed 4-4-1).
5.a M/S/P Sessing/Mandel — to bring discussion of the Fence Ordinance to the Planning
Commission on Monday, Tune 22, 1998.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
6. Adjourn
Chairman Armstrong adjourned the meeting at 9:50 PM.
Respectfully submitted, Cynthia Young -Recording Secretary
Memorandum
To: Mary Kueffner
From: Jeff Berg
Monday, June 8, 1998
Will not be attending tonight's planning commission meeting, ill with the flu.
Comments on the Zintl Concept:
1) Thought the wetland is supposed to be primary conservation areas, and the plan details
filling one in.
2) The open space is all an active park.
3) Knows there has been high water problems on this property.
4) Village greens are too small.
6/8/98
Received via phone, 2:15 PM
Taken by CLY
PEIION
We, the undersigned residents of Lake Elmo, are opposed to any further
rezoning of land along 50th Street No. We endorse the current zoning of
rural residential (one house per 10 acres) and the comprehensive land use
plan for Lake Elmo which Supports the preservation of large lots in this area
in order to maintain some of the last remaining rural character which the
community of Lake Elmo has so long valued and defended.
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Dear committee members:
Several years ago the Minnesota Design team worked with the citizens of Lake Elmo
to create a plan for the future which could accomodate growth yet preserve the highly
coveted country atmosphere which has been so central to the lives of members of this
community, both long time and new.The plan stressed that large areas of open space
should be preserved near the village to ensure the rural atmosphere which its citizen's
so strongly support. It also specifically noted that neighborhoods such as the one
along 50th street should remain zoned in large lot sizes for the same purpose. If we
continue to grant license to every proposal for development, there will surely be no
"gracious country living" left in Lake Elmo and indeed the very reason for which people
live here and want to live here will be forfeit. The plan created by the concerned and
active members of this community with the Minnesota Design team was not intended
for the short term, but was rather a long range vision of what Lake Elmo can be for us
and for future generations. I strongly encourage each of us who are able to make
decisions regarding our future, to commit to implementing the vision for our future
created at the time of the Minnesota Design Team's visit and deny the request for
further rezoning along 50th street.
L. Drevlow
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