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CITY OF
LAKE
ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
777-5510
3800 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
The Lake Elmo Planning Commission will meet at 6:00 p.m. on Monday, June 28, 1999 in the
Council Chambers of City Hall, 3800 Laverne Avenue North, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
PLEASE NOTE: 6:00 p.m. — 7:00 p.m. continued discussion — Comprehensive Plan.
AGENDA: 7:00 D.M. meeting
1. Agenda
2. Minutes - June 14, 1999
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Robert Engstrom Companies
Conditional Use Permit &
Open Space Residential Development Concept Plan
Fields of St. Croix Phase Two
4. PUBLIC HEARING: William Zintl
Open Space Residential Development Concept Plan
Tana Ridge
5. Eagle Point Business Park
Development Stage Plan & Preliminary Plat
(continued from June 14, 1999 meeting)
6. Higher Dimension Research (MR) Site Plan Review
(continued from June 14, 1999 meeting)
7. Other
8. Adjourn
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DRAFT
Lake Elmo
Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes
Monday, June 28, 1999
(The Planning Commissioners continued their discussion of the
Comprehensive Plan at its 6.:00p.m. meeting)
Chairman Armstrong called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3800
Laverne Avenue, Lake Elmo, Minnesota. Present: Commissioners Berg, Brass, Gerard, Helwig, Herber,
Lipman, Mandel, Ptacek, Sedro and Sessing. Also present: City Planner Dillerud.
1. AGENDA
7.a Public Facilities Ordinance
7.b Comprehensive Plan — extend deadline
M/S/P Lipman/Sessing — to approve the agenda as amended.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
2. MINUTES
M/S/P Armstrong/Lipman — to approve the Minutes from the June 14, 1999 meeting, as amended.
(Motion Passed 8-0-1). Abstain: Brass
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Robert Engstrom Companies
The Fields of St. Croix — Phase Two
Concept Plan
Planner Dillerud said this site was originally part of the first Fields of St. Croix Concept Plan submissions
in 1996 and the Emerson/Forletti Open Space Concept Plan, approved earlier in 1999. He said this
concept plan proposes 52 single family detached dwellings situated on lots sized from 4/10 of an acre to
1.10 acre, a townhouse component of 12 attached units in 6 two unit structures and a farmstead and
commercial area. He said the applicant advised staff that this area would serve as the relocated retail
outlet for the CSA Farm currently located at Phase One of The Fieldstof St. Croix. He said there was
some concern that a "commercial center" may be in direct competition with "downtown" Lake Elmo. He
said the access to Highway 5 would be at a single point for all 64 proposed units.
Mr. Robert Engstrom and Mr. Tim Freeman each presented drawings of the two proposed development
concept plans, The Fields of St. Croix and Tana Ridge.
Chairman Armstrong opened the comment portion of the Public Hearing for The Fields of St.
Croix at 7:40 p.m.
Robert Eischen
11674 Stillwater Blvd.
Mr. Eischen said an earlier presented concept plan indicated the closure of his "private" driveway which
he shares with Mary Jean DuPois. He asked if his road was going to be closed. He said the farming
operation near his property has been very compatible and said Mr. Engstrom agreed to install a line of
trees further accommodating him.
Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 28, 1999 page 1
Mary Jean DuPois
Resident
Ms. DuPois asked how many feet were between her driveway and the entrance to the proposed
development.
Mr. Engstrom said 425 feet.
Chairman Armstrong closed the comment portion of the Public Hearing for The Fields of St. Croix
Concept Plan at 7:50 p.m.
Chairman Armstrong opened the comment portion of the Public Hearing for Tana Ridge Concept
Plan at 7:50 p.m.
Reid Gilbertson
11421 50th Street
Mr. Gilbertson said he was still opposed to this development and said he was concerned about the
lighting. He asked if he would be forced to develop his property in the future, would there be road
extension to the west adjoining his property. He said he has a major concern about the addition of two
more units to this plan.
Rich Smith
11514 Stillwater Blvd.
Mr. Smith said he was concerned about the possibility of run-off on his property created by the proposed
holding ponds.
Chairman Armstrong closed the comment portion of the Public Hearing for Tana Ridge Open
Space Concept Plan at 8:00 p.m.
M/S/P Berg/Herber - to recommend adoption of a resolution approving the Concept Plan for The
Fields of St. Croix Phase Two including the following conditions:
1. Compliance with the recommendations of the City Engineer's memo dated January 4, 1999.
2. The Development Stage Plan shall include a proposal to legally guarantee that the open space
and Public Park components (subject to Park Commission recommendations) and the
common waste water treatment system, all of which require common actions with the
adjacent OP project, will be accomplished completely and in a timely manner, as proposed by
the Concept Plan.
3. Subject to any Park Commission recommendation regarding the proposed Public Park.
4. Any modifications to the Tana Ridge Concept Plan that results in adjustments to the
aggregate Park or OP open space calculations shall void this recommendation.
5. The Development Stage Plan shall provide substantial detail with respect to the design of and
proposed uses of the non-residential component adjacent to State Highway 5.
(Motion Passed 8-1). Opposed: Brass; opposed to the doubling up of open space/public park, lot
sizes, not enough information provided regarding the commercial operation.
M/S/P Armstrong/Herber — to recommend adoption of a resolution approving the Concept Plan for
Tana Ridge including the following conditions:
1. Compliance with the recommendations of the City Engineer's memo dated January 4, 1999.
2. The Development Stage Plan shall include a proposal to legally guarantee that the open space
and Public Park components (subject to Park Commission recommendations) and the
common waste water treatment system, all of which require common actions with the
adjacent OP project, will be accomplished completely and in a thnely manner, as proposed by
the Concept Plan.
Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 28, 1999 page 2
3. Subject to any Park Commission recommendation regarding the proposed Public Park.
4. Any modifications to the Fields of St. Croix Concept Plan that results in adjustments to the
aggregate Park or OP open space calculations shall void this recommendation.
5. The Development Stage Plan shall provide substantial detail with respect to the design of and
proposed uses of the non-residential component adjacent to State Highway 5.
(Motion Passed 8-1) Opposed: Brass; number of lots, and doubling up of open space/public park.
5. Eagle Point Business Park
Development Stage Plan & Preliminary Plat
(continuedfrom om June 14, 1999 meeting)
Planner Dillerud said United Properties had responded to most of the Development Plan issues addressed
at the last meeting. He said it appeared that United Properties had moved closer to compliance with many
of the Business Park standards.
The Commissioners, Planner Dillerud, Dale Glowa, Jon Pope, and Daniel Zelke (Msrs. Glowa, Pope and
Zelke representing United Properties) reviewed the development standard table. At its June 14, 1999
meeting, the Planning Commission recommended several changes to the standards and Mr. Glowa said he
had prepared an amended table which lists in the far left column those business park ordinance
requirements that the Planning Commission asked to discuss further relative to the PUD changes which
are listed in the second column.
ATTACHED IS THE TABLE OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT REFLECTS THE
CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH THEY ADDRESSED
ONE BY ONE AND RECOMMENDED BY INFORMAL VOTE.
(Commissioner Lipman exit at 9: 00 p.m.)
(Commissioner Gerard exit at 10:10 p. m)
BREAK 10:05 — 10:15 p.m.
The Commissioners discussed sign height, specifically referencing their concerns regarding the pylon
sign height.
Cheryl O'Donmel, representing United Properties, said the signage is the "jewelry" of a project and a way
to accessorize and identify the business park.
Commissioner Brass said she felt it was important for Lake Elmo to stay consistent with the current sign
ordinance and not make any concessions for this PUD. An informal vote was taken to follow the current
sign code for this PUD resulted in 4 for and 5 opposed . The second informal vote to accept the
applicant's plan for signage in the PUD resulted in 4 for and 5 opposed. The default is that the PUD will
need to follow the current Lake Elmo Sign Ordinance.
M/S/P Armstrong/Mandel — to recommend adoption of a resolution approving the Development
Stage Plan and Preliminary Plat for Eagle Point Business Park substituting in condition number
one the inclusion of the table of standards initialed by the City Planner and dated June 28, 1999.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
6. Higher Dimension Research (HDR) Site Plan
Planner Dillerud said that at meeting time, no additional information had been submitted to the Planning
Commission by the applicant.
Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 28, 1999 page 3
M/S/P Armstrong/Sessing — to recommend approval of the site plan for Higher Dimension
Research.
(Motion Passed 8-0-1) Abstain: Brass; did not attend the previous meetings regarding this plan.
M/S/P Armstrong/Sedro — to recommend extending the Public Facilities moratorium for 6 months.
(Motion Passed 8-1). Opposed: Helwig; he suggests extending one year.
M/S/P Sessing/Sedro — to recommend applying for an extension to the deadline for the
Comprehensive Plan submission to the Metropolitan Council to December 31, 1999, and petitioning
the Metropolitan Council to amend the Regional Blueprint to substitute "Permanent Rural" for
"Urban Reserve" within the Northeast Annexed Area.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
Chairman Armstrong adjourned the meeting at 11:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, Cynthia Young -Planning Secretary
Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Monday, June 28, 1999 page 4
(14
ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS
300.12 subd. (1)(B) and 300.12(2).
No Business Park structure shall exceed 60' in
height. Parapet walls shall not exceed more
than 4' above the height permitted of the
building.
300.13subd.(6)(A)(3). Parking spaces shall be
10' x 20', exclusive of access system. Size of
parking space may be altered upon approval of
Zoning Administrator. Parking spaces for the
handicapped shall be minimum of 12' x 20'.
300.13subd.(6)(B)(6)(d). The primary
landscaping materials shall be shade trees,
with shrubs, hedges, etc., used only to
complement trees, not as the sole means of
landscaping.
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO BE CHANGED
FOR
EAGLE POINT BUSINESS PARK
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS (5/28/99)
No limitation. Special City approval
required for heights exceeding 100'.
Parking spaces shall be 9' x 18'.
Handicapped spaces will be changed
to agree with the Minnesota State
Building Code and the Americans
With Disabilities Act.
Specific site landscape plans shall be
presented and approved by United
Properties and the City on a site -by -
site basis.
PLANNING COMMISSION'S
COMMENTS (6/14/99)
Do not like the idea of no limitation.
Address parking spaces south of
Hudson Blvd. where there might be
higher turnover of spaces.
Some members would like to see the
landscaping along the berm to be
done initially. Need to show
approval letter from NSP.
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
REVISED (6/23/99) 1111
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No Change. Keep the 60' building height limitation
currently in the City Ordinance. United Properties
will request a variance if ever needed.
We propose 9' X 18' spaces at the developments
north of Hudson Boulevard, 10' X 18' south of
Hudson Boulevard, where commercial development
is most likely to occur with the exception of the
proposed hotel and restaurant transaction which is
currently under contract (Heart of America), which
needs 9' X 18' spacing. In addition, many
communities allow up to 20% of the spaces in an
office building development to be compact car sizes,
8' X 16'. The benefit for smaller spaces is to
minimize hard parking surface areas.
We propose to install the berm initially as the
material is available when building the loop road and
the HDR sites. Landscaping and Irrigation will be
done on a project -by -project basis. We prefer this
approach because of the difficulty to maintain
isolated landscaped areas, having no access roads,
potential disease that could kill all of the material if
planted at once, and the initial cost, especially since
there is no existing development to the immediate
northern and eastem sites. We will submit an
approval letter from NSP regarding our plans fpr
their easement area. p\ k- , U
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Development Standards
June 23, 1999
Page 2
Permitted Uses. Banks, medical clinics,
offices, schools (businesses, professional
private trade).
Conditional Uses Business services,
conference centers, health clubs, hotels and
motels, day care centers, limited retail,
/ medical, dental and research labs, recording
studios, restaurants and cafeterias, theaters,
teleconferencing transmission facilities,
veterinary clinics, similar uses approved by
Council.
Add: Research & Development;
Office/Showroom
Add: Office/warehouse, office/light
manufacturing, hotel without
restaurant.
Need to differentiate these
classifications somehow; percentage
of office, traffic volume, etc.
Need to differentiate these
classifications somehow; percentage
of office, traffic volume, etc. Hotel
without restraint o.k.
We would define R&D and office/showroom space
to be the same. This space is typically used as
general office space, laboratory space, testing,
assemblage, and storage of supplies. Not permitted
would be extensive inventory warehousing, or heavy
manufacturing, which is defined by noise, odors,
emissions, and heavy truck traffic.
We assume that Lake Elmo objects to truck traffic,
outside storage, industrial noises and odors, and how
future tenants use the space once the initial tenancy
turns over. The following is a response to each of
those potential objections:
Truck Traffic
Limit the percentage of unfinished space
(storage or warehouse) to 50% of building area.
This can be policed with the permit process.
• Limit the number of truck docks to one dock or
drive-in, per 10,000 square feet of building.
• Any delivery area is to be screened from street
view, using landscaping and building layout.
Outside Storaee
• Not permitted
Industrial noises. odors. and emissions
• Not permitted
Future Tenant's Use of Snace
• Guided by this PUD
• City monitors through permitting process
Conditional Uses
Add: Hotel witho - - s . urant and
gasoline/convenience center!ihese are amenity
services that will serve the business park tenants. As
a conditional use, the City reserves the right to
review and approve any and all plans on a project -
by -project basis
Development Standards
June 23, 1999
Page 3
0\ I Minimum Lot Area: 3.0 acres.
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Minimum Lot Frontage: 200'.
Lot Width/Depth Ratio: 1/3.5
Minimum Building Setbacks:
I Front: 50',plus 25' for each
story above first.
Side/Rear: 30', plus 20' for each
story above fast
Minimum Parking Setbacks:
Front 30'
Side:
(j eu Side(street)
�ll Rear:
15'
15'
15'
1.0 acres.
50'
No Requirement.
Front/Street: 50',
Do not want to see 110 1-acre lots.
Same as minimum lot area.
Same as minimum lot area.
Side/Rear: 10',30' abutting residential uses.
Front: 20'
Side: 10'
Side(Street): 20'
Rear: 10'
Minimum Lot Area
Revise Minimum Lot Area to 2.0 acres. irl'r egscP
rine was^. These could be a small bank
building, daycare, restaurant, etc. The City would
satisfy itself on a project -by -project basis.
Minimum Lot Frontage
NBC prep u a e twuL any thing' biz -swan. LVti
feet rustiaa a?p,.a.. _d-c.+
Lot Width/Denth Ratio
We propose the elimination of this requirement,
since it is really immaterial. If the City really wants
to create a campus setting, a square -shaped site
would be more advantageous. Site coverage, open
space, and site circulation are more critical
requirements than thiq existing ratio.
Minimum Building Setback
11
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We propose 50' for front a treet frontage, and 10' '
for side and rear frontage, except where abutting)
-efeldential uses where the current ordinance
1,reauirements will avply/"This seems like it is one of
those interior PUD issues that pertains more to us
than the City.
We think that this is also an interior PUD issue that
pertains more to us than the City, and we believe that
the setbacks proposed are reasonable.
Front 20'
Side 10'
Side (street) 20'
Rear 10'
Development Standards
June 23, 1999
Page 4
mimum Building Foundation Size: 10,000
's.f.
07,
Parking Ratio: One space for each 250 s.f. of
office building area or one space per two
employees, whichever is greater.
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athways:
Storm Water Control
Lighting Height: 30'
Sign Height: Per Section 535
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6,000 s.f., except for approved,
service -related uses.
Add: One space per 2,000 s.f. of
storage, warehouse; ozq 11.0
5' wide bituminous
To new holding ponds.
Variable; maximum permitted height
to be 35'.
ableCad
heights; reviewed
-wrth City on an individual site basis.
Contingent upon allowable uses.
Would like to see 8'.
Incorporate into green corridor and
innovative storm v. ater control
procedures.
Show that there would be no
spillover.
Pylon sign only.
No change. We propose keeping the City's standard
of a minimum of 10,000 square feet. ,tmgtbiag ers
mast-be-aeriroi�ed-a$ eondtfi t use h A+ ('Ity
Parkine Ratio
We propose adding the ratios for
warehouse/storage/mmtafaett space as se
relate to approved R&D/Office/showroom eg, for
those cases that are approved by the Ci as a
conditional use.
No Change. Pathways will be 8' wide. We propose
giving the City R.O.W. for.pathways. The City will
install and maintain at their cost.
Storm water management requirements should be
averaged over the PUD area as a whole.
The creation of ponds provide innovative storm
water management solutions for water quality
treatment and rate control.
No change. We ac t the City's current standard
of 30' maximum. U.n.ATev- 13 5 )
Sien Heiehts/Sienaee Plan
The City is concerned about the pylon sign height,
specifically our reference to attracting traffic off the
freeway, and the number of pylons that might exist.
We propose that businesses can have signage on the
building and a monument sign at the property's
entrance, and that a pylon sign must be approved on
a case -by -case basis by the City, however the size of
the sign will match what we have proposed in our
signage plan. The size, 12' X 6' signface and 25'
height is designed primarily for Inwood traffic, not
freeway.
Development Standards
June 23, 1999
Page 5
Pond Maintenance
I
Pond Maintenance
We prefer that the City be required to maintain
ponds and assess each property owner for their fair
share, of the cost to do so.