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CITY OF
LAKE
AELMO
City of Lake Elmo
Phone: 651-777-5510
Fax: 65 1 -777-9615
3800 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
The Lake Elmo Planning Commission will meet
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2001 at 6:00 p.m.
in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 3800 Laverne Avenue North, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
1. Agenda
2. Minutes - September 10, 2001
3. PUBLIC HEARING:
4. PUBLIC HEARING:
5. PUBLIC HEARING:
6, PUBLIC HEARING:
7. Zoning Text Amendment:
8. Pre -application Review:
9. Other
10. Adjourn
AGENDA
Variances - continued firm September 10, 2001
Kiesling
9359 Jane Road N.
Variances
Hegna/Rude
3250 Kraft Circle
Amend Conditional Use Permit
Country Air Golf Facility
Ray &Jane Salus
404 Lake Elmo Avenue
Zoning Text Amendment
Add "Therapeutic Massage" to General Business
Re -Visit "Fitness Center" addition to General Business
RECO, Inc.
Northeast Quadrant of
Lake Elmo Avenue/Hudson Boulevard
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MINUTES APPROVED: OCTOBER 10, 2001
LAKE ELMO PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
September 24, 2001
Chairman Armstrong called the meeting to order at 6 p.m. in the Council
chambers. PRESENT: Helwig, Berg, Deziel, Brass, Armstrong, Taylor,
Ptaceck (arrived at 6:20 p.m.)
1. AGENDA
M/S/P Armstrong/Brass — to approve the September 24 Planning
Commission agenda, as amended (Motion passed 6-0.)
2. MINUTES: September 10, 2001
M/S/P Berg/Brass — to approve the September 10, 2001 Planning
Commission minutes, as amended. (Motion passed 5-0-IHelwig Abstained)
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Amateur Radio Antenna Tower Permit:
Bob Helwig
Bob Helwig excused himself as a Planning Commission member and sat in
the audience for this agenda item.
The City Planner advised that Bob Helwig, 8247 27th Street N., had made
application for an amateur radio tower antenna permit in an after -the -fact
context pursuant to the terms of the new Ordinance 9784 that addresses
amateur radio towers and antennas. It was noted that this is not a zoning
action. Mr. Helwig had provided a petition signed by 81 individual
indicating their support for approval of this permit.
Administrator Kueffner had drafted a memo for the commission asking the
Planning Commission to specify why it feels the City should not condone
the applicant installing, for the second time, a tower on his property,
knowing full well they were not permitted by our City Code.
Mr. Helwig provided the Commission the history of the installation of his
Rohn antenna towers and provided two pictures relevant to the tower,
showing guy wires and existing power lines. Helwig stated that the tip of the
antenna is 108' from the ground and the tower has been inspected and
insured by American Family Insurance and is on his homeowner's policy.
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Mr. Helwig indicated he did not willingly bypass any City ordinance by not
getting a permit, as he believed that a permit was not required under Section
300.12. Subd. 2A. which states as follows: Antennas shall not be located on
structure in excess of sixty-five feet in height unless the structures are
existing water towers and the antennas are only an accessory use on the
water towers
Paul, an antenna tower owner from White Bear Lake, stated he has put up
and taken down towers. He was familiar with the Rohn tower, which Mr.
Helwig had installed according to the requirements. He said the tower would
not fall in one piece unless guy wires are cut. The base and guy wires are
standard.
Chairman Armstrong asked if there is a group that could come out and
certify the tower is installed correctly. In response to the question presented,
Paul stated the assembly was done per instructions.
Chairman Armstrong opened up the public hearing at 6:35 p..
John Yarusso, 8282 27th St. N., read a prewritten statement. He said he
bought his lot in 1989 knowing full well there was a radio tower. He told
the Commission that Bob Helwig's application should be approved because
it is a back-up form of communication in times of disaster, which is an asset
to the community. He said the tower location is immediately adjacent to
high voltage powerlines, making the tower much less noticeable; and that
the tower has existed for at least 12 years, and should be grandfathered in.
Larry Man, stated Mr. Helwig has been upfront with neighbors on his plans.
He has no problem with aesthetics. He observed that Bob enjoys this hobby,
so the City should let the man do it.
Jim Revard noted that the tower is not more discerning than the powerlines
we live under today.
Robert Mear, 8341 27th St., neighbor, stated that he had no problem or
objections as indicated in a letter.
Chairman Armstrong acknowledge a letter from Dennis Siegler, 8244 27th
St. N., in opposition of the amateur radio tower based on the visual impact.
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Chairman Armstrong acknowledge a petition of 81 names in favor of the
installation of the tower.
Chairman Armstrong closed the public hearing at 6:40 p.m.
Commissioner Deziel stated the new ordinance was adopted and published
August 29, 2001. The original ordinance was not read properly by the
building official and there was no permitting process before.
M/S/P Armstrong/Brass 5-0-1: Abstain:Taylor - to recommend to the City
Council approval of an amateur radio antenna tower permit for Bob Helwig,
8247 27th Street N., based on the following findings:
1. That Mr. & Mrs. Bob Helwig have FCC Amateur Radio Licenses.
2. That the tower is minimum size and dimensions to overcome high wire
obstacles.
3. That the tower is a professionally designed Rohn manufactured tower.
The applicant has provided numerous drawings and engineering specs for
assembly of tower.
4. That it is recommended the City obtain an annual letter from Bob Helwig
or a knowledgeable party stating the tower is in good working order, that
the Helwigs are still using the tower, has homeowners insurance, and the
City has no liability with this tower.
5. That the distance is adequate with a fall down tower radius a minimum of
110' tip from adjoining property.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: Variances (continued from Sentember 10,
2001) Joe Kiesling, 9359 Jane Road N.
The City received a letter from Joe Kiesling's Attorney requesting this
item be tabled until the October 10th Planning Commission meeting.
M/S/P Armstrong/Brass - to accept Joe Kiesling's request for his variance
request item be tabled to October 10, 2001 Planning Commission meeting.
(Motion passed 6-0) Bob Helwig not in attendance for vote.
5.PUBLIC HEARING: Variances Hegna/Rude 3250 Kraft Circle
Planner Dillerud presented the history of the rearrangement of Lake Elmo
Park. He reported that since the division of Lot 7, all but one of the 8
parcels now owned by the City were sold to individuals and homes were
constructed on each of those 7 parcels. The one remaining parcel has
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remained a separate tax parcel of approximately 12,000 sq.ft. owned by the
Rudes. The sum area of the Rude's 4 separate and contiguous tax parcels is
approximately 33,780 sq.ft. and does not meet the 60% Lot of Record rule in
R-1 zoning.
Planning Commissioner Deziel brought up the Anthony Carlone variance in
terms of the findings. Planner Dillerud responded the applications are not
parallel.
Mr. Rude presented a verbal presentation of reasons why he thought his
variance request should be approved. He stated the 201 program could be a
backup, but did not get a copy of the 201 policy.
Dillerud responded he could not find any policy stating the 201 program can
only be used for failing systems as Tom Prew and Mike Bouthilet have
attested. If there were a lack of policy for joining the 201 Program, then the
Council would have to set policy.
Chairman Armstrong opened up the public hearing at 7:21 p.m.
No one spoke for or against the variance request.
Chairman Armstrong closed the public hearing at 7:22 p.m.
Planning Commissioner Deziel stated no one had applied in 10 years for a
201 permit. If there are 35 vacant parcels in the City, he doesn't see this as a
bad thing. He does have a problem with class distinction with our civil
servants not being able to find affordable housing in Washington County. A
wastewater treatment system, as in Fields of St. Croix, could be installed,
which would make these small lots developable at an affordable price.
Commissioner Berg indicated the Old Village does need its own standards
and would like to see this as a front burner issue. This is a legislature
function. Currently, the R-1 zoning district requires 1 1/ acre minimum,
which does not work in the Old Village.
Chairman Armstrong added they needed to identify what lot size would be
appropriate. The major concern is wastewater in the Old Village. Density
was too much and that is why the City needed the 201 program.
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M/S/P Ptacek/Brass — to draft a resolution to deny zoning variances
requested by Hegna/Rude based on seven findings stated in the City
Planner's staff report. (Motion passed 6-1:Abstain Dreziel: The City could
install a common wastewater treatment for the Old Village.)
6. PUBLIC HEARING: Amend Conditional Use Permit
Country Air Golf Facility, Ray & Jane Salus 404 Lake Elmo Avenue
Planner Dillerud reported that a Conditional Use Permit was approved for a
"Golf Driving Range" on this 24-acre site in 1990. That CUP was amended
in 1993 (Resolution No. 93-19) to include a "three hole golf practice
facility". Work on the golf practice facility was initiated, but never
completed or placed in service. The 1993 CUP amendment approved the
use of the northeast quarter of the site (approximately 8 acres) for 3
regulation length golf holes. The present application for amendment
proposes to substitute 18 "pitch and putt" holes on the same area of the site.
Ray Salus explained the reason for the "pitch and putt" is to enjoy natural
beauty while playing golf, provide a fun and safe place for family. All
income levels can afford this. Trees will be planted, and there will be no
grading except for the holes. Holding ponds will look like a park.
Chairman Armstrong opened up the public hearing at 7:55 p.m.
No one spoke for or against the amendment.
Chairman Armstrong closed the public hearing at 7:56 p.m.
M/S/P Armstrong/Deziel - to recommend an amendment of the CUP for a
Golf Driving Range approved by Resolution 93-19, with the substitution of
18 pitch and putt holes on the same area of the site as the previously
approved three hole golf practice facility. (Motion passed 7-0).
7. PUBLIC HEARING: Zoning Text Amendment Add "Therapeutic
Massage" to General Business
Planner Dillerud reported the Staff noticed a Public Hearing to consider
amendment of the text of the General (GB) zoning district to add the use
"Massage Therapy". This consideration and Commission direction
regarding the Hearing was the result of inquiries received by staff as to the
legal zoning status of this use. In response to an inquiry for a prospective
new massage practitioner, staff determined that no forms of massage are
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specifically allowed in any commercial zoning district either as a
"Permitted" or as a "Conditional" use. Even though there is some type of
massage practice already existing in the Old Village commercial area, he
reported that City staff has no information as to how and when that business
originated.
Staff proposed the following definition of Massage Therapy (Therapeutic)
"The process by which a practitioner applies massage therapy techniques,
and may apply adjunctive therapies, with the intention of positively affecting
the health and well being of the client. The rubbing, stroking, kneading
tapping positioning, causing movement, and applying touch and pressure to
the body. Adjunctive therapies may include (1.) Application of heat, cold,
water, mild abrasives, heliotherapy, topical preparations not classified as
prescription drugs; (2.) the use of mechanical devices and tools which mimic
or enhance manual actions; and (3.) instructed self -care and management.
Massage therapy shall not include techniques traditionally practiced by
chiropractors."
Chairman Armstrong opened up the public hearing at 8:10 p.m.
No one spoke for or against the text amendment.
Chairman Armstrong closed the public hearing at 8:12 p.m.
M/S/P Armstrong/Deziel - to recommend to the Council to add "massage
therapy" as a Conditional use in GB zoning district, with the definition
provided by planner be the definition for that use. (Motion passed 6-0-
1 Abstain:Brass).
8. Zoning Text Amendment: ReVisit "Fitness Studio" addition to
General Business
Planner Dillerud reported the Council wanted the Planning Commission to
rethink a tighter definition of a Fitness Studio to preclude a mega -facility
such as a Lifetime Fitness. The Council was not comfortable that the CUP
process was sufficient means for that preclusion.
Chairman Armstrong suggested limiting the maximum square footage (5,000
sq.ft.), which Planner Dillerud stated could be added to the definition.
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The Commission had a problem with the word "passive". This would allow a
treadmill and stairstepper, but not free weights.
M/S/P Armstrong/Taylor — to recommend to the City Council allowing as a
Conditional Use in the General Business District a Fitness Studio provided
at a maximum floor area for such uses be 5,000 square feet and to DELETE
the word "passive". (Motion passed 7-0).
The Commission amended the agenda to bring this item upfront because
there were applicants in attendance.
9. Pre -application Review: RECO. INC. Northeast Ouadrant of Lake
Elmo Avenue/Hudson Blvd
Tim Freeman, Folz, Freeman, and Dupre, representing RECO, Inc.,
presented a pre -application for seven buildings in a GB zone connected to a
private wastewater treatment facility. He stated that the applicant would not
anticipate any variances and may have outlots and replat later. There are no
specific buyers for lots at this time.
Chairman Armstrong thanked the applicants for the pre -application review.
10.Other
City Planner Dillerud asked the Commission to act as initiator for an
amendment to the zoning text for "or equivalent" in BP, LB, and GB
performance standards.
Chairman Armstrong stated that he would favor eliminating "or equivalent"
and set a public hearing to eliminate this word and set standards at a later
date. Planner Dillerud stated the intent is to publish amendments to the
performance standards paragraph in the three zones to give latitude to make
adjustments as we see fit.
M/S/P Armstrong/Taylor - to direct staff to initiate a public hearing for
amending performance standard paragraph in the three zoning districts.
(Motion passed 6-1:Deziel).
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The Planner reported that the Council has asked to amend 300.06 to modify
the method of variances for hearing and bring recommendation to Council.
The Administrator has pointed out there are other areas that would need to
be adjusted as well per the City attorney.
Chairman Armstrong asked how many of the variances have been appealed
to the Council, taking up both the Council's and the Planning Commission's
time.
Commissioner Ptaceck explained he didn't want to give up the forum,
because as a commission, rather than being political, we tend to be more
objective and simply interpret the code. The number of variances in the code
points out problems with the code, which should be looked at to change.
The real power is the Council. The Planning Commission are volunteers, and
I would like fellow commissioners to keep their political views and
aspirations in check during our meetings.
M/S/P Armstrong/Brass - to the recommend city code amendment that
variance applications be heard by the Council instead of the Planning
Commission, because they are the ones elected by the voters. (Motion
passed 6-1:Deziel stated the Planning Commission should be more of a
planning body, but variances are becoming more reactive.)
The Commission adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by Sharon Lumby, Deputy Clerk
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