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CITY OF
LAKE
ELMO
City of Lake Elmo
Phone: 651-777-5510
Fax: 651-777-9615
P 3800 Laverne Avenue North / Lake Elmo, Minnesota 55042
The Lake Elmo Planning Commission will meet MONDAY, January 28, 2002,
at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall,
3800 Laverne Avenue North, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
AGENDA
1. Introduction of Planning Commission
2. Agenda
3. Minutes — January 14, 2002
4. Public Hearing:
5. BREAK
Comprehensive Plan Amendment,
Zoning Text Amendment,
Minor Subdivision
Mulligan Masters Golf Facility
Keats Avenue & Hudson Boulevard
Hiner Development
6. Interviews with Community Development Block Grant Proposals for Old
Village Neighborhood Design
a. 8:00 p.m. — Sanders, Wacker, Bergly, Inc.
b. 8:30 p.m. — Thorbeck Architects
c. 9:00 p.m. — TKDA
7. Other
8. Adjourn
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APPROVED: February 11, 2002
Lake Elmo
Planning Commission
Monday, January 28, 2002
Meeting Minutes
Chairman Armstrong called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, 3800 Laverne Avenue North, Lake Elmo, Minnesota.
Present: Commissioners Deziel, Taylor, Sedro, Berg, Sessing, Ptacek, Bunn,
and Herber. Absent: Commissioners Mandel and Herber. Also present:
Planner Dillerud.
Introduction of Planning Commission and new Commissioner Julie Ann
Bunn.
1. Agenda
M/S/P Sessing/Berg - to approve the agenda, as presented.
(Motion Passed 9-0).
2. Minutes — January 14, 2002
Deziel/Armstrong — to approve the Minutes, as amended.
(Motion Passed 5-0-4). Abstain: Berg, Sedro, Herber, Bunn
3. PUBLIC HEARING:
Comprehensive Plan Amendment,
Zoning Text Amendment,
Minor Subdivision
Mulligan Masters Golf Facility
Keats Avenue & Hudson Boulevard
Hiner Development
Planner Dillerud explained that even though the site had never been developed,
there is an extensive history, most recently proposals for commercial
development. He noted the 40 acre site is currently land use guided by the City
as RED He further explained that the 2000 Land Use Plan, which is under
Metropolitan Council Review, guides this parcel RAD; therefore the proposed
use fell into the Conditional Use category. He explained that the applicant
proposes a minor subdivision of the parcel, noting the second parcel of 5 acres
of land shall be rezoned Limited Business in a second action, the purpose to
assure conformity to minimum zone standards. He discussed the Conditional
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Use Permit in the Agricultural Zone for a Golf Practice Facility as noted in his
staff report. He reminded the Commissioners that although the application
referred to a "Site Plan", there was no formal application for Section 520 Site
Plan approval at this time. He stated his concern regarding the possible future
lighting of the facility He reviewed the findings as found in his staff report, and
directed the Commissioners to review a motion to recommend approval of a
Minor Subdivision; Comprehensive Plan Amendment; rezoning; and
Conditional Use Permit for Hiner/MFC Properties per plans staff dated
January 23, 2002, subject to the conditions recommended.
Commissioner Berg questioned the parking situation as it related to overflow,
and impervious surface coverage, allowing 20%.
Planner Dillerud said parking may "leak" onto City streets, and said the
Commission needed to address off-street parking at the facility.
Commissioner Deziel asked about accessory uses/restaurant, questioning
whether those uses would be allowed in GB and LB districts.
Planner Dillerud said restaurants are permitted, but miniature golf facilities are
not recognized as primary uses in the AG zone.
Commissioner Bunn expressed her concerns regarding the site lighting;
suggested there may be better ways to meet ecological goals; does not see a golf
facility as "rural".
Rich Hiner
Applicant
Mr. Hiner stated he was not sure if site lighting is necessary at this time,
explaining that until the facility is open for business, he would not have a lot of
definitive answers. He noted that the project would not be fully pulled
together; stating a trial run with customers would tell how everything fits. He
noted possible accessory uses as: a short 9-hole course in the future; and,
expansion of the site; but, was not ready to make that step now. He explained
that the business is market driven serving the core golfers first thing in day, and
5-9 evenings; Senior Citizens during days in a fun, social atmosphere; and,
provide a child area while parents practice. He noted the Club House would be
specifically for onsite use, creating a coffee shop -type restaurant. He added that
the Pro -shop would also supply used golf clubs. He suggested the facility
provide teaching during peak and off-season. Mr. Hiner explained that the
basic concept for the facility was generated by pieces and parts from
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Monday, Januaty 28, 2002 page 2
professional golf facilities all over the country, stating this idea is a totally new
concept, well accepted by the PGA and other nationwide professionals. He said
he expects this facility will be a nationally recognized project.
Chairman Armstrong opened and closed the comment portion of the
Public Hearing at 7:55 p.m. — NO COMMENTS.
Commissioner Sedro said she was supportive of the proposals should the
future rezoning of the 5 acre parcel be accomplished, eliminating a sub-
standard parcel.
Planner Dillerud suggested that be included in the recommendation, suspecting
a further Public Hearing in that regard.
Commissioner Deziel reminded the Commissioners that it was not their
decision if a business "made it or not", and no recommendation should be
made based on the idea of success. He said he felt a retail situation went well
with a golf facility.
Chairman Armstrong stated he did not see any problem with the concept of
this plan. He said historically, miniature golf facilities are not consistent with
the ordinance; he was supportive of the proposed retail, but stated the City
should be consistent regarding the retail aspect with Agricultural Zone
Conditional Use Permits suggesting others might want to amend their CUP's.
He also mentioned there are currently now no impervious surface standards in
the AG zone, and limits should be in place.
M/S/P Berg/Sessing — to recommend approval of a Minor Subdivision,
Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Rezoning, and Conditional Use
Permit for Hiner Development/MFC Properties 94, L.C., per plans Staff
dated January 23, 2002, subject to the following conditions
recommended in the Planning Staff Report dated January 23, 2002,
a. Elimination of the "mini golf' use based on use
characteristics unrelated to the primary golf practice
facility use.
b. Limitation to the scale of the food service and golf pro
shop accessory uses to that represented by the
applicants floor plans dated by Staff January 23, 2002.
c. All buildings, signage, and parking areas shall be
subject to review and approval by the City of a formal
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Section 520 Site Plan. Commercial zoning district
performance standards shall apply to those
improvements.
d. Any structure with a gross floor area exceeding 5,000
square feet shall have fire suppression sprinklers
installed.
e. Exterior lighting of the golf practice facility shall be
prohibited unless the Conditional Use Permit is
specifically amended to include that feature.
f. Compliance with the review recommendations of the
City Engineer.
and, amend the site to retain no more than 20% impervious coverage;
and, initiation of the rezoning of the lower MFC parcel to Limited
Business (LB)
(Motion Passed 9-0).
Chairman Armstrong adjourned the meeting at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, Cynthia Young -Planning Secretary
Interviews continued with prospective consultants for Old Village
Design (CDBG)
M/S/P Bucheck/Williams to remove TKDA from further consideration
as the Old Village Design consultant.
(Motion Passed 12-2). Opposed: Berg, Sessing
M/S/P Williams/Taylor — to recommend Thorbeck Architects as the
Old Village Design Consultant, and also request that staff investigate
additional assistance for facilitation of the planned Public Forums.
(Motion Passed 14-0).
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